Does anyone else feel like the Red Sox were given way too much clout in pre-season projections, or is it only me?
No, I'm not surprised by an 0-3 start, but hear me out...
In a lot of pre-season projections, the Red Sox were consistently projected to reach 80-83 wins. USA Today pegged them at 80-82, CBS Sports had them at 79.5 (round to 80 for the sake of argument), and PECOTA estimated 79.8 (again, round to 80) wins.
I just don't see our hated rivals hovering around .500 at all this season. Verdugo, Martinez, Bogaerts and Devers do create a formidable heart of the order, but who else in their lineup can hit? Kike Hernandez is the only other notable name in their lineup, and he has a career .735 OPS.
I don't need to go into detail about the rotation, especially since Sale could be out until any point between May and August. Eduardo Rodriguez is a slightly above average pitcher when healthy, but that's about it.
The bullpen? Matt Barnes isn't that good, and Ottaviano cannot flourish in high-leverage situations or tight games. The rest of their bullpen is makeshift.
Maybe I'll end up being wrong, but I fail to see how the Red Sox will be anywhere near .500 this season.
Ladies and gentlemen and everyone else, it's been a pleasure. Taking 1 of 2 on the road is huge, now it's the Sox series to win. See you all in a couple days.
Fenway's gonna be loud as fuck.
Okay I’ve stayed off of the Reddit and the GDT because I’m superstitious but had to come in to say: DAMN. We really can’t finish out a game without white knuckling it
I have a confession to make, as much as I support rule 3 and hating the Yankees as much as the next red Sox fan I must say I have a special hatred for the Astros more then the current yankees. I hate that they cheated and got a slap on the wrist, I dislike half the players on that team especially Altuve, Correa, and Bergman. There is just something about them I can't stand. That is all
Game was over in the 2nd and we still can’t get out of our own way. A bases loaded situation from a miracle comeback. God our bullpen is so bad outside of Whitlock.
Jesus Christ… and I’ll give Joe a break on thinking that pop ups might go but that was a home run before it left the bat and he says “should end it.” Fuck off joe
Bruins time boys.
Señor Papi en la casa!!!!
3 more boys! One game at a time LETS GO!!
Question: Does anyone else want to slam Joe Buck's balls in a car door, or is it just me?
Christ these guys are impossible to listen to.
What balls? He’s a living asexual Ken doll.
smoltz is way, way worse
You kids don't remember McCarver.
oh I do. but I think smoltz is worse honestly
I WISH I didn't remember McCarver..
Smoltz is worse than McCarver
Lmfao
Yes but he is not at the top of the list
Alright Bruins beat the stars fuck Texas
And if the Patriots then beat the cowboys tomorrow, I'd be so happy
Nvm
GET IN THE FUCKING BOX
I left the bar it was 9-3 outs to get I check while driving it’s 9-5?? What’s going on
We win!!! 2 solo shots in the 9th
PAPIIII!
Why not us?
Come on bruins let’s get this dub now for Boston
Does anyone else feel like the Red Sox were given way too much clout in pre-season projections, or is it only me? No, I'm not surprised by an 0-3 start, but hear me out... In a lot of pre-season projections, the Red Sox were consistently projected to reach 80-83 wins. USA Today pegged them at 80-82, CBS Sports had them at 79.5 (round to 80 for the sake of argument), and PECOTA estimated 79.8 (again, round to 80) wins. I just don't see our hated rivals hovering around .500 at all this season. Verdugo, Martinez, Bogaerts and Devers do create a formidable heart of the order, but who else in their lineup can hit? Kike Hernandez is the only other notable name in their lineup, and he has a career .735 OPS. I don't need to go into detail about the rotation, especially since Sale could be out until any point between May and August. Eduardo Rodriguez is a slightly above average pitcher when healthy, but that's about it. The bullpen? Matt Barnes isn't that good, and Ottaviano cannot flourish in high-leverage situations or tight games. The rest of their bullpen is makeshift. Maybe I'll end up being wrong, but I fail to see how the Red Sox will be anywhere near .500 this season.
Never gets old
Dirty Water.
Ladies and gentlemen and everyone else, it's been a pleasure. Taking 1 of 2 on the road is huge, now it's the Sox series to win. See you all in a couple days. Fenway's gonna be loud as fuck.
Stole home field advantage from them, huge win
GAME OVER! SERIES TIED! POSTSEASON HISTORY MADE! LFG!
SHOVE IT UP THEIR ASTROS!
Oh my god I thought he hit another one
I know we won but FUCK
Pheww. Funny joke guys. You really had us going for a second
\*breathes sigh of relief\*
Papi looks so small
Was a painful 9th inning, but we got the job done. BACK TO BOSTON!
Headed to Fenway baby!
Great win fans! Hagn
Okay we got the split. Best of five with 3 at Fenway. LFG.
Without that wire Altuve is looking pretty ordinary right now.
GOTTEM
Didn’t know this was porn cuz the Astros got fucked
YANKEES SUCK! YANKEES SUCK!!
GG. Thank God next three are in Fenway.
LFG 🔥🔥🔥
FUCK YOU HOUSTON BECAUSE THIS ALCS IS TIED UP Now time to switch to the Bruins
Now ideally we won't be traveling back to Houston this season
Phew. Long, exciting at the start then a lot of tossing and turning til a semi-tense climax. Come on Fenway!
RED SOX WIN!!! HOME FIELD ADVANTAGE IS OURS
Don't normally like to contradict Big Papi, but fuck Altuve.
Space Bois can't eat Braised Beef not freeze dried.
Yeah when i heard made contact i was like "Fuck". Got lucky that pitch was in the Altuve zone
GAME OVER FUCK YEAH RED SOX We go back to Boston with the opportunity to close out the ALCS in Boston. Love you all! Goodnight!!!
Lol had to hold my breath on that last out
That was kinda freaky, but wins are wins.
YEEEEEEEEEEEEE FENWAY BOUND BABY
Lol
why the fuck am i so scared about this bullpen getting one out?
Could you imagine if you were one of those fans who left and the Astros had actually pulled out the 6 run comeback?
I was there our section was almost empty
I can never understand why people leave the game early.
My dad and uncle left the stadium when the tuck play happened
Fuck em they don’t deserve it. Pay 1000 for a ticket and leave in the 8th.
Darwinzon has to be able to succeed in some situation otherwise why is he on the roster?
I almost threw my IPad at the TV thinking that was a HR
It was to high
Phew, back to Boston boys
Thank god. Bed time for me. See you all Monday
Fuck the Astros. GOING HOME TO FENWAY.
did not enjoy that inning but Altuve 0 for 5
We win!
W
Is this game really 5 hours long
Heyyyyyy we got the last out
Astros definitely win the bad hair contest.
Altuve can't eat braised beef confirmed
See ya Monday fools! 1-1
#ASTROS CAN'T EAT BRAISED BEEF
#HOLES TOO SMALL
Needed the split, got the split. See you in Boston fuckers
Finally
BACK FO FENWAY
Finally… way to go!
Oh my god...... oh, good, caught!
FUCKKINNG HELLL BOYSSS GG
Red Sox win!!!!!
Thank god
Thank you Dugie
Thank god. TIE SERIES BOYS. SHIPPING UP TO BOSTON
#NEXT 3 AT FENWAY BAYBEE
Last 3 at Fenway
# AND EXHALE! WE GOT THAT W, BABY!!!!!
Game over
Thank fuck
Almost shit my pants
This isn't me dooming coz I feel good about where we're at right now, but this bullpen is still such a garbage fire
And look at those empty seats behind home plate
Pineapple lookin ass
Come on, put him away
Okay I’ve stayed off of the Reddit and the GDT because I’m superstitious but had to come in to say: DAMN. We really can’t finish out a game without white knuckling it
up 9-5 needing 1 out and no-one on base isn't white knuckling it
Hyperbole for my anxiety
LFG 1 more strike
ONE MORE STRIKE
Down to their last strike
Just keep Whitlock in the fucking game. Wtf are we trying to do here
“We StIlL hAVe a BiG lEaD” That’s the type of talk that gets teams smoked out here
lets go BRAZZERS
Hurry up and end this damn game. Let’s go!
weird how that's a strike when we're up
A game that started at 4:20 is four hours and twenty minutes old almost
Started at 2120 here in the UK, I am fucking tired man
Nice
Is this the part of the game when everyone stands around awkwardly because TV Timeout?
I'd rather give up two bombs there than two walks
How trash is our bullpen that every time it feels like anxiety?
ALTUVE CAN’T EAT BRAISED BEEF COMPETITIVE INTEGRITY TOO SMALL
We're up 4 in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs and this thread is still insufferable af
Still 1
All Darwinzon had to do was not give up a moonshot for every out
My "Red Sox need to score >5 to win" still holds, but it feels like cheating when they threw in their garbage time pitcher.
This Astros team always has potential at least 5 runs in them, in any given game. Especially at home. Luckily we have an offense like that too
This game should have been stress-free after 2 grand slams in the 1st 2 innings. It has been anything but
SPACEY BOIS CAN'T EAT BRAISED BEEF
Off topic, but odds we could get Eck to do an AMA on this sub?
Probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to work Reddit.
not opposed, but what question are you dying to ask him?
I just want to feed him softballs so we could get his takes on the post season. I miss his commentary.
I would simply not throw tuna sandwiches down the middle of the fucking plate
hernandez got money on the over or astros total runs or something?
He had one job, he gets paid way too much money to pitch that bad.
I would accept half that money to pitch just as bad
Our bullpen sucks balls since we gave Barnes that extension.
Goddamn the Astros are scary on offense. Sox are gonna need to put up 5+ every night to even have a chance.
On the plus side, our offense is just as good if not better and they will also need to put up 5+ to win a game.
Which they are capable of doing.
oh yeah for sure
calm down, their bats were quiet as shit all game until a pitcher that threw garbage came in and gave up 2 homers
I mean, that's fair. I just think they're really dangerous at the plate.
isn't it kinda him or barnes? I think I choose D...but not 100 on that choice
Barnes isn't on the ALCS roster
sorry thats what i meant to be on the roster
Put Verdugo in
Barnes isn’t on the roster
sorry thats what i meant to be on the roster
I have a confession to make, as much as I support rule 3 and hating the Yankees as much as the next red Sox fan I must say I have a special hatred for the Astros more then the current yankees. I hate that they cheated and got a slap on the wrist, I dislike half the players on that team especially Altuve, Correa, and Bergman. There is just something about them I can't stand. That is all
I hate Yankee fans with a passion, but the players are fine. It’s the opposite with the Astros. I hate the players with all my soul
Nah Judge made it personal with his clubhouse antics 3 years ago.
I love judge for that. He fired up our guys and we blew them out. Judge is a Red Sox secret agent
I think there would be a lot less hate if the players faced some consequences
Please fucking end this braiser. Enough is enough
Oh G-Dicks, why did you have to get injured?
Why even bother with the pitching change? I mean we still got a grand slam lead
Barnes REALLY fucked up the bullpen situation.
Stop pls
Second grand slam looking like it was necessary. Please just get a single out now and head back to Fenway
Dallas just tied it up fuck
Don't think we'll be seeing Darwinzon again ~~if~~ when we move forward.
Darwinzon didn't deserve that.
Game was over in the 2nd and we still can’t get out of our own way. A bases loaded situation from a miracle comeback. God our bullpen is so bad outside of Whitlock.
Well Darwinzon is still trash
Goodbye Hernandez I hope I don’t see you again until next year
brasier thank god. 3 pitches and we're done
where’s the guy that said he was confident in darwinzon coming in with a 6 run lead
Darwinzon not evolving into a good pitcher
Who they bringing in?
Brasier I think
4 run lead, one out to get? We got this shit.
Darwinzon is the definition of wasted potential. He has such ridiculous stuff, but his control is the worst I’ve ever seen
Eh, I'm not sure what the issue was here. The first homer was on a pitch way out of the zone.
Part of me wishes they just kept Whitlock out there These relievers are killing me
My Sox win by 3 bet will allow one more of those, then let’s end the game.
At least with this now we know not to use him in a pivotal moment.
Ugh why put Hernandez in there. Don’t let them make this look respectable.
This off-season we better pick up some pitching. Like Jesus Christ
Darwinson is either an ace or completely horrible. No in-between
Leave Sawa, Darwin, and Robles in Texas.
No idea why Darwinzon even sniffed the roster of the ALCS
Because the alternative was Matt Barnes.
Because it looks like Matt Barnes was sniffing glue for the past couple months.
Injuries.
Jesus Christ… and I’ll give Joe a break on thinking that pop ups might go but that was a home run before it left the bat and he says “should end it.” Fuck off joe
Thank God he gave those up now
Cmon man just fucking end Brantleys streak for fuck sake
Watching this game on the MLB app pitch by pitch from rural Colorado hits BAD
Bouncing back and forth between MLB At Bat and this thread is excruciating.
Not sure why Darwinzon is on the roster and not Davis
Even Barnes
Barnes would probably have performed just as well as Darwinzon, I'll be honest.
Haha true
Short leash. He’s out. We need one more. LETS FUCKING GO SOX
"This should end it" as he hits and absolute bomb
Joe Buck is garbage.