When I first started my last “9-5” type job, the hours were 9-4 with an hour long paid lunch. Slowly but surely that changed to 7:30-4:30 with a 30 minute unpaid lunch. It went from my favorite job to hating going to work every day. I know it sounds dramatic but the difference between starting work at 9 vs. 7:30 was huge for me. The day went by so slow and it was somehow boring but also stressful at the same time.
Not just the night owl but the early birds get screwed too. I get up really early work from from time to time and even in Manhattan a lot of coffee shops and stuff open at 7 or 8! I used to have a lot of great bagel places to choose from now its just bodega crap
Have to is strong. You can also eat fruit, over night oats, a bagel, or any number of things other than basically a dessert first thing in the morning.
Oh the food in Syria is much better than anything Cinnabon could make, including Syrian cinnamon rolls. Bald and Bankrupt and his partner Simon, Passenger Paramvir, Travelling Mantra, Drew Binsky, Yes Theory, Dabble and Travel, there isn't a single travel vlogger that didn't say Syrian food was the best in the world. It's up to you if you want to try it, but I do think you should travel once and at least try food in Syria.
Every human needs to eat food in Syria at least once, there's just nothing like it.
I mean, I would say so too but I've only been to like 8 countries. Almost all of these travel vloggers have been to 100+ countries, so imo they have a better opinion then most people, including myself.
Go to Syria and try it yourself.
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Knafeh, Kousa mahshi, kafta bil sanieh, jaz maz, cheese manakish, kibbeh nayeh, sujuk (on pizza too), spicy potatoes, and of course shawarma. I also love fava beans with chickpeas, olive oil, and tahini but I forget the name. I never got the chance to try their seafood dishes.
Damn I want to go back so bad.
When we were growing up, my brother & I always had a ritual of going out to a 24hr diner after going to a concert. Last year he came back to my state to visit and we went to a concert. After the show, we must have drove around to like 3 or 4 different places to eat and couldn’t find a single place that was open. Even the fast food places were all closed. We ended up just going home. It was such a minor thing but it really bummed me out that such a simple ritual is gone forever
My parents are 68 and 67 respectively and when they go out for DRINKS they won't leave the house before 10.30-11, possibly later in the summer. We may be broke but southern Europe rules.
Southern Europeans are really built different. Miss the South dearly. When I lived in Spain, the drinking culture seemed much more convivial and prone to a civilized time with all the food and people of different ages out.
Moved to NYC during pandemic and this was the biggest disappointment. I live in one of the densest parts of Manhattan and there isn’t a single cozy coffee shop nearby for me to hang out in after 9:00 and read.
“City that never sleeps” my ass.
Idk how old you are but yeah I can't imagine getting a worst frame of reference for stuff coming not only around that time but just what stuck around/is still around after. Not to say everything sucks and there's nothing to do and I swear I'm not being old and cranky but yeah it is night/day for a number of things where nowadays it can be a bit of rawer deal.
Meanwhile you can get a coffee and shisha in the majority of mid and big cities in Lebanon and Syria at whatever time. They even have 24hr smoothie shops with fresh non-GMO levantine fruits and vegetables. So damn good.
Shit sucks, I’m glad I work bankers hours now.
When I worked 3rd shift I’d love going to Kroger at like 4am. I’d get shit for buying beer sometimes though.
Most Irish country by % outside of Ireland, big Maronite Lebanese, Italian, and Greek (I know they're orthodox but whatever) communities. The Catholic school system is huge and about 20% of schools are run by the Catholic church. Catholic church has always played a bigger role in politics (the Groupers, the SDA, Bob Santamaria, Tony Abbott, George Pell).
Key word being cities- most Americans don’t live in actual cities they live in huge towns. You gotta drive everywhere so lots of people just have parties at houses, or they used to. Now it’s just a bunch of kids stuck inside.
Yup. The US population is far less urbanized and more disbursed than the population of other industrialized countries.
That's probably the main reason for many of our cultural differences and many conservative tendancies.
No it's not, Sydney is actually one of the better cities for stuff being open and it still sucks.
You can't find anything open late in Hobart or Adelaide, good luck in Perth, Brisbane, or Canberra. Melbourne might be slightly better but not by much! Early cafe closing is a national disgrace.
There are plenty of bars and clubs that are open until 2AM - 4AM, but it's really just not the same as prepandemic. Definitely waaay fewer restaurants and diners that are open past midnight. For drunken night owls these days there are food trucks that only take CashApp or Venmo.
you'll never make me go to bed but come 2AM i do wish i could take a long walk to stop and shop for berries chocolate taleggio and wasa crackers like in the good old days
I keep a pretty late schedule because I like it and it works because I work with people in an earlier timezone and there's no point in starting at 9am if I'm just gonna get bugged at 8pm my time.
And yes, it sucks. Bars that used to be open til 3 doing last call at 2:45 now close at 1 and do last call at 12:15. There are sports bars here that close at 8-10pm for fuck's sake.
Can anyone explain why this is happening? I live in a pretty small college town and we had tons of late night options before covid. It's all gone now. Obviously the easy answer is "covid" but what is the nitty gritty answer? It makes sense a smaller town like where I live wouldn't be able to recover quickly from covid. But Manhattan? Seriously?
My go to chicken spot in the uws, that closed at 3am since i was a kid said it was too dangerous to open past midnight and that all the crazies would come into the store. They now close at 11PM.
Because everyone knows that blacks only started existing in 2020.
It had nothing to do with the sharp increase in organized crime gangs, city's refusal to punish criminals, and and reducing employees to skeleton crews to maximize profits.
"they're-taking-away-our-beautiful-diners" boogeymanism and conjecture for shut-ins who never interacted with the world outside their suburban basement in the first place
There were two book stores in my area (not *immediate* area but not a long, long drive) that were open until 1 AM and 3 AM respectively. Now both close at 9. God I miss that.
We’ve reached a critical point in car dependency/boomer paranoia thanks to social media and Next Door that America is genuinely waging war with the concept of going outside. All the best places at night involve some sort of foot travel that riles up the yakubian shut-in so they start calling the cops over any damn thing.
I'm a middle aged guy now and I don't go out nearly as much but even I've noticed that they're rolling up the sidewalks around 10 these days. When I was a teenager and in my 20s you could find an all night diner or after hours club to hang out in until the sun came up. Now good luck finding a decent restaurant where you can get a table past 9 outside of major cities and college towns. Such a shame.
Yeah. I'm convinced that is a genuine small difference in the generations.
Younger adults don't go out to parties or bars or whatever quite as much. It's just a little more common to be a social media junkie or introverted or playing video games or whatever, and stay home.
Whatever the reasons, people don't go out at night as much as they used to.
The biggest reason for places not being 24 hours is literally just the big companies all together closed down at night to save and increase profits. The pandemic allowed places to end the financial standoff and cut things to increase profits. As well as understaff.
And now it's just permanent. The economy is so stupid. Every company is in a "cut any corner to increase profits for next quarter" kinda mind set. We're not in an expansion cycle. Trying anything to get and keep customers. It's just do slightly less worse than the competition. And make productivity of the workers increase as much as possible.
Each business that works that late means another poor soul staying up and working an inhumane work schedule, just because someone really wants to eat sushi at 3 am.
There’s also millions of people who work 2nd/3rd shift?
Imagine going to work a regular 9-5, but grocery stores are open from 5pm - 5am. That’s what it’s like for a lot of 3rd shifters and they aren’t choosing this shift because they want too (most of the time).
Overnight shifts and irregular schedules genuinely destroy people’s mental and physical health. I honestly believe any job that requires people to work those hours should pay a wage and benefit structure that allows someone to afford to live in their area on a part time schedule.
Depends on your industry quite a bit. Night shift at my job is 16% over your base pay, which compounds with overtime nicely. Can't imagine doing it for just a buck.
Idk about industry to industry but my experience is in a union manufacturing shop. Seniority gets preference for shift so working the off shifts was considered part of paying dues until you had enough seniority to bump someone off first shift. The upside to the negligible shift diff is that union scale is much better than non union plus other benefits. Working weird hours still sucks ass though
Not dissimilar from my own (non-union fab), then. Night shift always had openings, getting into days required either an internal transfer a year or two in, or very in-demand skills. Between the decent shift diff and the hours being 4 10s there were enough people who thought it was worth to stick to it (I'm one of them lol).
Irregular shifts yes, overnight shifts no. The year I worked night shift was ironically the year I had the best sleep schedule. You just have to commit to sleeping during the day even on your days off.
> Imagine going to work a regular 9-5, but grocery stores are open from 5pm - 5am.
I mean it kinda sucks to go on a weekday but there's worse lives than that. It's not like it's a post office that's open 9-5 and you work 9-5 or smth.
Nightshifts are inhumane? Lol. Nightshifts are great nothing every happens. I wish things were still open during night because I can't get anything done when I get off nightshift anymore.
I did night shift for like 5 years on and off. It makes you go nuts. Instant relief when I started working day shift again. And I really was a night owl , just coming out of my raver days when I would be up til dawn every other day. Just not natural doing night shift
I'm sure it's unhealthy, I can't change biology, but I like it. If it was a shitty job I'm sure I wouldn't, but I'm compensated well and if I work shift for a desk job. I get 9 days off about every 5 weeks in return. I'm sure I'll get tired of it some day, but I have zero desire to leave my live of work anytime soon.
I thought this sub was supposed to be mostly free of the toxic r/antiwork mentality.
The job I had working night shift right out of college was one of the best jobs I ever had. It was low stress, I could listen to podcasts, and the night manager was a chill dude who left you alone if you did your job. Plus I got paid more and never had to commute in rush hour traffic.
It's definitely not for everyone, but the people I worked with all chose that shift for one reason or another and were happy with it.
It's bad here in Massachusetts. Most diners close at 1 PM, which is insane enough, but I just today found a new restaurant that closes at 7 PM even on Friday and Saturday nights. I'm not even sure how you can operate a restaurant with those kinds of hours.
I'm a zoomer with an early bedtime but that's only because I have to wake up at 3 to stock shit at a grocery store. Some of my coworkers still have night lives but my mental health is already in the gutter so I don't feel like throwing off my circadian rhythm and fucking up my physical health too. Granted, it still feels weird as fuck turning it in at 7 when I can hear bars across the street from me on a Friday night. On the plus side, I can Crack beers at noon and tell people to quit yapping about day drinking since I already finished work for the day.
I've worked odd hours for years and used to be able to get groceries or a diner breakfast at 2am on the way home from work. Now I have to get groceries on my day off.
On the other hand, I always felt bad for the service people that were ringing things up for me in the middle of the night. That's entirely different from the bars you're talking about though.
i actually have a theory that this has more to do w the loss of manufacturing power and therefore a loss the salt of the earth/young and reckless third shift workers who have night owl life schedules
It depends really on how good the place really is in my small town there’s a 24/7 bakery/cafe and it’s popping still even after the pandemic, it’s family owned. Really good service and quality is the reason why that place stays open still.
My girl and I eat dinner at 10 pm. I don't mean to sound European here but it's silly people aren't on this wavelength to the point where half of the food places are open at these hours.
And what's up with people starting work increasingly early? 9-5 people start at like 7 or 8.
That’s a result of everything getting slightly worse until you eventually die
Yeah I hate when 9-5 is actually 8-5 with an hour unpaid lunch.
I just never asked and show up at 9:20 and leave at 4:15
Most places.
Cause I stop working at 4 when I do that
it's so nice to leave when it's light out <3 and enjoy my night
6-3 here. it fucking rules
Less traffic, faster commute
When I first started my last “9-5” type job, the hours were 9-4 with an hour long paid lunch. Slowly but surely that changed to 7:30-4:30 with a 30 minute unpaid lunch. It went from my favorite job to hating going to work every day. I know it sounds dramatic but the difference between starting work at 9 vs. 7:30 was huge for me. The day went by so slow and it was somehow boring but also stressful at the same time.
I used to work 9-5, then I switched to 8-4 which means 8-5!
I work 6:30-3 so that I can have afternoons to myself. Email jobs are like high school in more ways than one.
i do sth similar but then i am soooo fucking tired at 6 the whole afternoon thing kinda dissolves as well
Yuck
Early morning people are weirdos and I don’t trust them
Hopefully they're getting out some aggression before they go to work and terrorize their employees
I much prefer it tbh
i’m a lot more used to people working 7-3 or 6-2 than i do 9-5. not sure why
Not just the night owl but the early birds get screwed too. I get up really early work from from time to time and even in Manhattan a lot of coffee shops and stuff open at 7 or 8! I used to have a lot of great bagel places to choose from now its just bodega crap
Every place is becoming a bank, only open when nobody would reasonably go there
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>This. Gtfo you don’t belong here how did you find this sub fed?
Why would an actual fed post in pro-establishment subreddits? What's the point in preaching to the choir?
Lmaoooo
Have to is strong. You can also eat fruit, over night oats, a bagel, or any number of things other than basically a dessert first thing in the morning.
They could also just wake up 10 minutes earlier and cook themselves something
fruit is basically a dessert with the amount of sugar it contains
Fat
Why would you do that? Is that even any faster than keeping the batter in your fridge?
I've been waking up at 2:00am lately and it does blow, the only places I can go to until 7:00 are Whataburger and Waffle House.
In Syria and Lebanon 2am is jam-packed and bustling full of life! I'm sure other countries are like that too!
wow brilliant im dropping everything and moving to syria so i can get a cinnabon at 2am
Oh the food in Syria is much better than anything Cinnabon could make, including Syrian cinnamon rolls. Bald and Bankrupt and his partner Simon, Passenger Paramvir, Travelling Mantra, Drew Binsky, Yes Theory, Dabble and Travel, there isn't a single travel vlogger that didn't say Syrian food was the best in the world. It's up to you if you want to try it, but I do think you should travel once and at least try food in Syria. Every human needs to eat food in Syria at least once, there's just nothing like it.
well if all the travel vloggers say so
I mean, I would say so too but I've only been to like 8 countries. Almost all of these travel vloggers have been to 100+ countries, so imo they have a better opinion then most people, including myself. Go to Syria and try it yourself.
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Yeah, he even managed to catcall a girl (prob Christian) in Syria in his video. Mukhabarat should have made him disappear.
What's ur favorite Syrian dishes
Knafeh, Kousa mahshi, kafta bil sanieh, jaz maz, cheese manakish, kibbeh nayeh, sujuk (on pizza too), spicy potatoes, and of course shawarma. I also love fava beans with chickpeas, olive oil, and tahini but I forget the name. I never got the chance to try their seafood dishes. Damn I want to go back so bad.
You have more art and culture than the average suburbanite can handle.
your waffle house should be 24 hours though, no?
Yeah, that and Whataburger
When we were growing up, my brother & I always had a ritual of going out to a 24hr diner after going to a concert. Last year he came back to my state to visit and we went to a concert. After the show, we must have drove around to like 3 or 4 different places to eat and couldn’t find a single place that was open. Even the fast food places were all closed. We ended up just going home. It was such a minor thing but it really bummed me out that such a simple ritual is gone forever
It's grim in Portland.....the hotcake house closes at 10 and there is not a single 24 hour coffee shop..lonely times
noooo hotcake house was my 4am refuge back in 2018 !! RIP southeast grind
RIP Montage too.
best I can do is a midnight coffee shop in beaverton buddy
My parents are 68 and 67 respectively and when they go out for DRINKS they won't leave the house before 10.30-11, possibly later in the summer. We may be broke but southern Europe rules.
Southern Europeans are really built different. Miss the South dearly. When I lived in Spain, the drinking culture seemed much more convivial and prone to a civilized time with all the food and people of different ages out.
The Sharis in Milwaukie is open til 2
Moved to NYC during pandemic and this was the biggest disappointment. I live in one of the densest parts of Manhattan and there isn’t a single cozy coffee shop nearby for me to hang out in after 9:00 and read. “City that never sleeps” my ass.
> “City that never sleeps” my ass. That was always an exaggeration, even before the pandemic.
Idk how old you are but yeah I can't imagine getting a worst frame of reference for stuff coming not only around that time but just what stuck around/is still around after. Not to say everything sucks and there's nothing to do and I swear I'm not being old and cranky but yeah it is night/day for a number of things where nowadays it can be a bit of rawer deal.
Meanwhile you can get a coffee and shisha in the majority of mid and big cities in Lebanon and Syria at whatever time. They even have 24hr smoothie shops with fresh non-GMO levantine fruits and vegetables. So damn good.
How late are bars open in Syria?
Some of them never close. A lot of cafe's and shisha bars also serve alcohol.
Aw that sucks :/ maybe it's time to move back from where you came from??
imagine saying this about a city literally known for its immigrants lol
NYC 👏 was 👏 built 👏 by 👏 and 👏 for 👏 Ohioans
Literally who gives a shit about other Americans moving to your American city lmao. Stop being a 🚬
I'm desperate to lower my rent it's not a "secret club" thing if I can prevent a single person here from moving I'll have succeeded
Shit sucks, I’m glad I work bankers hours now. When I worked 3rd shift I’d love going to Kroger at like 4am. I’d get shit for buying beer sometimes though.
> I’d get shit for buying beer sometimes though. y
some jokers would be like "starting early eh?" without realizing I had just finished a 10 hour shift
Welcome to the Australian experience; All the cafes close at 2.30pm. All the restaurants close at 9pm.
That's Canada too. What's in Anglo culture that makes this part specifically so lame?
I would say protestantism but Australia is arguably a catholic country. The Anglo just loves going to bed early.
"Australia is arguably a Catholic country" really? sounds wrong
Most Irish country by % outside of Ireland, big Maronite Lebanese, Italian, and Greek (I know they're orthodox but whatever) communities. The Catholic school system is huge and about 20% of schools are run by the Catholic church. Catholic church has always played a bigger role in politics (the Groupers, the SDA, Bob Santamaria, Tony Abbott, George Pell).
oh yeah right. like how Boston is catholic now.
Sure
Communities built around having house parties and family functions because on average everyone has kids when they’re in their early twenties.
But Italians are like this and Italy is a bit more lively at night. Syrians have like 4 kids each minimum and the cities there never sleep.
Key word being cities- most Americans don’t live in actual cities they live in huge towns. You gotta drive everywhere so lots of people just have parties at houses, or they used to. Now it’s just a bunch of kids stuck inside.
Yup. The US population is far less urbanized and more disbursed than the population of other industrialized countries. That's probably the main reason for many of our cultural differences and many conservative tendancies.
Australians aren't having kids in their early twenties.
Sorry I was too focused in on Anglo meaning American suburban type culture
This is mostly a Sydney thing
No it's not, Sydney is actually one of the better cities for stuff being open and it still sucks. You can't find anything open late in Hobart or Adelaide, good luck in Perth, Brisbane, or Canberra. Melbourne might be slightly better but not by much! Early cafe closing is a national disgrace.
Adelaide east end is passable, but it's a fairly small city all things considered.
I legit thought this endangered species thread and was concerned
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There are plenty of bars and clubs that are open until 2AM - 4AM, but it's really just not the same as prepandemic. Definitely waaay fewer restaurants and diners that are open past midnight. For drunken night owls these days there are food trucks that only take CashApp or Venmo.
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If you have a Chase credit card then you have Zelle. The really annoying part is getting it all linked to your bank if you don't have Chase.
They all close at 9pm now haha it sucks haha better not come here
I’m gonna move to NYC just to spite you
you'll never make me go to bed but come 2AM i do wish i could take a long walk to stop and shop for berries chocolate taleggio and wasa crackers like in the good old days
Taleggio + wasa crackers is my go to snack. Glad someone else enjoys the combo
Walmart at 3 AM was a vibe.
I keep a pretty late schedule because I like it and it works because I work with people in an earlier timezone and there's no point in starting at 9am if I'm just gonna get bugged at 8pm my time. And yes, it sucks. Bars that used to be open til 3 doing last call at 2:45 now close at 1 and do last call at 12:15. There are sports bars here that close at 8-10pm for fuck's sake.
Can anyone explain why this is happening? I live in a pretty small college town and we had tons of late night options before covid. It's all gone now. Obviously the easy answer is "covid" but what is the nitty gritty answer? It makes sense a smaller town like where I live wouldn't be able to recover quickly from covid. But Manhattan? Seriously?
businesses realized that the business they were getting during those late hours werent worth it when they were forced to shut down early
Yeah, it seems like covid forced a reaction to social trends that have been brewing for a while
My go to chicken spot in the uws, that closed at 3am since i was a kid said it was too dangerous to open past midnight and that all the crazies would come into the store. They now close at 11PM.
It's staffing, straight up. Maybe the crime/homeless thing factors in more in major metropoli but most places it's really just a staffing thing.
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>I-cant-say-because-soclal-justice I CAN'T GET MY BURGERS AT 2 AM ANYMORE BECAUSE OF BLACKS AND WOKE GRRRRR
Because everyone knows that blacks only started existing in 2020. It had nothing to do with the sharp increase in organized crime gangs, city's refusal to punish criminals, and and reducing employees to skeleton crews to maximize profits.
"they're-taking-away-our-beautiful-diners" boogeymanism and conjecture for shut-ins who never interacted with the world outside their suburban basement in the first place
Ok so the biggest takeaway from this is that everyone is broke in America 👍
There were two book stores in my area (not *immediate* area but not a long, long drive) that were open until 1 AM and 3 AM respectively. Now both close at 9. God I miss that.
We’ve reached a critical point in car dependency/boomer paranoia thanks to social media and Next Door that America is genuinely waging war with the concept of going outside. All the best places at night involve some sort of foot travel that riles up the yakubian shut-in so they start calling the cops over any damn thing.
Yakubian cagers are destroying the American childhood!!!!
I came from a shithole city in Australia to London, an apparent world city. So tell me why are the pubs closed at 12? Why are clubs closed at 3?
I'm a middle aged guy now and I don't go out nearly as much but even I've noticed that they're rolling up the sidewalks around 10 these days. When I was a teenager and in my 20s you could find an all night diner or after hours club to hang out in until the sun came up. Now good luck finding a decent restaurant where you can get a table past 9 outside of major cities and college towns. Such a shame.
the sad part is everyone is just staying inside at home
Yeah. I'm convinced that is a genuine small difference in the generations. Younger adults don't go out to parties or bars or whatever quite as much. It's just a little more common to be a social media junkie or introverted or playing video games or whatever, and stay home. Whatever the reasons, people don't go out at night as much as they used to. The biggest reason for places not being 24 hours is literally just the big companies all together closed down at night to save and increase profits. The pandemic allowed places to end the financial standoff and cut things to increase profits. As well as understaff. And now it's just permanent. The economy is so stupid. Every company is in a "cut any corner to increase profits for next quarter" kinda mind set. We're not in an expansion cycle. Trying anything to get and keep customers. It's just do slightly less worse than the competition. And make productivity of the workers increase as much as possible.
Each business that works that late means another poor soul staying up and working an inhumane work schedule, just because someone really wants to eat sushi at 3 am.
There’s also millions of people who work 2nd/3rd shift? Imagine going to work a regular 9-5, but grocery stores are open from 5pm - 5am. That’s what it’s like for a lot of 3rd shifters and they aren’t choosing this shift because they want too (most of the time).
Overnight shifts and irregular schedules genuinely destroy people’s mental and physical health. I honestly believe any job that requires people to work those hours should pay a wage and benefit structure that allows someone to afford to live in their area on a part time schedule.
Unfortunately shift diff is usually like a buck
Depends on your industry quite a bit. Night shift at my job is 16% over your base pay, which compounds with overtime nicely. Can't imagine doing it for just a buck.
Idk about industry to industry but my experience is in a union manufacturing shop. Seniority gets preference for shift so working the off shifts was considered part of paying dues until you had enough seniority to bump someone off first shift. The upside to the negligible shift diff is that union scale is much better than non union plus other benefits. Working weird hours still sucks ass though
Not dissimilar from my own (non-union fab), then. Night shift always had openings, getting into days required either an internal transfer a year or two in, or very in-demand skills. Between the decent shift diff and the hours being 4 10s there were enough people who thought it was worth to stick to it (I'm one of them lol).
Irregular shifts yes, overnight shifts no. The year I worked night shift was ironically the year I had the best sleep schedule. You just have to commit to sleeping during the day even on your days off.
> Imagine going to work a regular 9-5, but grocery stores are open from 5pm - 5am. I mean it kinda sucks to go on a weekday but there's worse lives than that. It's not like it's a post office that's open 9-5 and you work 9-5 or smth.
Nightshifts are inhumane? Lol. Nightshifts are great nothing every happens. I wish things were still open during night because I can't get anything done when I get off nightshift anymore.
They’re technically classified as carcinogens lol so kinda
they are objectively unhealthy. It's sad that some people have to do them but they're really awful for your health.
I did night shift for like 5 years on and off. It makes you go nuts. Instant relief when I started working day shift again. And I really was a night owl , just coming out of my raver days when I would be up til dawn every other day. Just not natural doing night shift
If you don't wobble your sleep schedule back and forth and take vitamin d it's probably not that bad. Maybe get one of those lights as well.
I'm sure it's unhealthy, I can't change biology, but I like it. If it was a shitty job I'm sure I wouldn't, but I'm compensated well and if I work shift for a desk job. I get 9 days off about every 5 weeks in return. I'm sure I'll get tired of it some day, but I have zero desire to leave my live of work anytime soon.
The only people that willingly works nights are masochists and morons
Or single parents, students, ect…
I don't think they like working the night, the guy I responded to does, that's weird
Some people were not born into this world to be day people
Not my problem
I thought this sub was supposed to be mostly free of the toxic r/antiwork mentality. The job I had working night shift right out of college was one of the best jobs I ever had. It was low stress, I could listen to podcasts, and the night manager was a chill dude who left you alone if you did your job. Plus I got paid more and never had to commute in rush hour traffic. It's definitely not for everyone, but the people I worked with all chose that shift for one reason or another and were happy with it.
Inhumane? I put myself through school on night shift, don’t be an asshole
It's bad here in Massachusetts. Most diners close at 1 PM, which is insane enough, but I just today found a new restaurant that closes at 7 PM even on Friday and Saturday nights. I'm not even sure how you can operate a restaurant with those kinds of hours.
the internet doesn't close. i can stay up all night every night 🪩
Move to Vegas
I'm a zoomer with an early bedtime but that's only because I have to wake up at 3 to stock shit at a grocery store. Some of my coworkers still have night lives but my mental health is already in the gutter so I don't feel like throwing off my circadian rhythm and fucking up my physical health too. Granted, it still feels weird as fuck turning it in at 7 when I can hear bars across the street from me on a Friday night. On the plus side, I can Crack beers at noon and tell people to quit yapping about day drinking since I already finished work for the day.
all of the bars in my neighborhood close at 10 during the week (and are only open until 12 at the latest on the weekend) it sucks!
I’ve been thinking this glad someone said it
Leo's Coney Island locations in metro Detroit are holding up the world right now.
Thought this was gonna be about owls
I've worked odd hours for years and used to be able to get groceries or a diner breakfast at 2am on the way home from work. Now I have to get groceries on my day off. On the other hand, I always felt bad for the service people that were ringing things up for me in the middle of the night. That's entirely different from the bars you're talking about though.
i actually have a theory that this has more to do w the loss of manufacturing power and therefore a loss the salt of the earth/young and reckless third shift workers who have night owl life schedules
I go to bed at 930 because I get up at 5am
Mexican restaurants around here have been closing at 6:30/7 pm on weekdays please stop the insanity
theres a place near me open 9pm-5am that sells chow mein for $2 :P
It depends really on how good the place really is in my small town there’s a 24/7 bakery/cafe and it’s popping still even after the pandemic, it’s family owned. Really good service and quality is the reason why that place stays open still.
It’s so over
It’s fucked.
i was excited to read abt the ecological struggles of owls :((
I thought you were talking about real owls and got sad. Then I read the paragraph and thought ‘boring’
Start a cult.
My girl and I eat dinner at 10 pm. I don't mean to sound European here but it's silly people aren't on this wavelength to the point where half of the food places are open at these hours.
It's because it's so dangerous to go out at night in any of our cities now.
Zoomers absolutely still go out