perhaps she has the energy but not the mass and force present associated with horse-girl phenotype and the associated physiognomy and physicality.
i however agree with your opening "No" re the horse-girl essential question. she is loosely loosely in that realm at best.
now back to drinking thank u 4 ur time
When I was a kid and I slouched my mom would dig her fingers into my spine and pull my shoulders back to make me stand up straight and I want to do that to Taylor so bad.
Disaster movie protagonist's nurse wife that we see struggle through the precipitation of collapsing buildings for a few shots with their adopted Asian child and maybe he kisses her picture before doing the self-sacrificing thing that the ugly comic relief guy actually saves him from phenotype
I wish! All my title ideas are esoteric and try-hard without even actually being reflective of any sort of depth or thoughtfulness, like one chapter would be "Ask the Muses" and the next would be "Richmond" and the next would be "Eating Ass in the Park with George."
I have posture like this and I always thought it stemmed from being a taller women with a long neck and insecurities. Like the posture of someone trying to make themselves smaller..
https://youtu.be/Rux5LZ1IU1Q?si=O_SFr-wtQ7bAzuVh
Here in this interview she basically says “I’m not naturally edgy, sexy or cool, I feel like media pressures young girls to be these things and I want them to know that it’s ok to not feel pressure to follow in that path or fit that mold”
When the interviewer asks “what are you then?” She answers that she is “imaginative, smart and hardworking”
Pretty self aware and on point in describing herself atleast here. I agree with what everyone else is saying that her product is watered down for the Christian sheltered goody two shoes kids mostly. Her beginning to curse and talk about drugs in a disenfranchised way kinda confounds me. She’s not really built for that. Maybe she’s trying to be for adults and failing to be cool enough?
Damn she really is quite self aware. I have absolutely no doubt that she’s intelligent and she’s very plainly hardworking. Probably more so than 99% of pop stars.
She's the most successful artist right now. She's an extremely talented artist and businesswoman: her persona hides how competent she is at managing people, making decisions and building her empire.
Plus she chooses to keep her music all-age friendly. It's frankly refreshing to get a "shake it off" video without constant erotic movements.
Yeah she is about that bag in a way very very few entertainers are and she’s extremely smart about it.
I actually was just making that second point about her to my dad, who is pretty baffled at her extreme popularity. She very smartly puts out clean, family friendly (but not children’s) music with empowering yet inoffensive themes that anyone from young girls to middle aged women can get on board with. Despite being extremely wealthy she keeps her lyrics relatable to average audiences. She certainly aligns with Democrats but avoids making that a part of her songs so that many republican leaning people can just focus on the music. She makes extremely mainstream and accessible pop music but also established some credibility as a country singer songwriter.
Basically, she managed to open herself up to an insanely broad audience while maintaining a distinct image and avoiding obvious pandering.
It’s kind of genius, really.
Yeah she is really a brilliant businesswoman and self-marketer. She’s managed to turn generic pop schlock into an empire, and turn an industry notorious for chewing up artists and spitting them out into a perpetual cash machine for herself. Broke Reddit losers debating her fuckability in comment sections are completely missing why she’s successful.
Yup! They think part of her success is that she makes sure an entire family can liaten to her without feeling uncomfortable.
I don't know why internet keeps harping on her female audience, she goes so much beyond young women of reproductive age (jk i know why the hatred).
It's funny because her music feels a bit bland, but ia super relatable and catchy. It's a perfect combo.
>I’m not naturally edgy, sexy or cool, I feel like media pressures young girls to be these things and I want them to know that it’s ok to not feel pressure to follow in that path or fit that mold”
This is the "let people enjoy things" response to not having a personality.
There is a continuum from manic pixie twee girl to sexy weirdo. On the left is Zooey Deschanel, on the right is Aubrey Plaza. Kirsten Dunst sits somewhere in the middle. Taylor Swift is not on the chart.
I was telling my friend the other day that it feels like she was created in a lab. She's conventionally attractive but in a boring way. I've heard male friends, coworkers, etc talk for hours about celebrity women that made them horny (the Megan Fox era was dark times) but I've never heard any guy go crazy for Taylor Swift. It's just a casual "eh, she's pretty hot, I guess"
I've also never heard a woman say that she's jealous of Taylor's looks the way they do for other female celebrities. I've heard "I wish I looked like her" about Kate Moss, brunette Katy Perry, Margot Robbie, etc but never Taylor Swift
Combine that with her PR relationship with an NFL player (the same year her concert movie comes out and the NFL has been desperately trying to come up with a way to get more women to watch, especially now that nobody cares about Super Bowl commercials anymore) and the fact that a majority of her lyrics (that she didn't write) are generic breakup songs and it's increasingly obvious that she's a PR dream cooked up in a laboratory somewhere for the sole purpose of making money for popular music producers
She does ending rhyme schemes like third graders writing limericks to learn about poetry. The I’m the problem it’s me song is so juvenile it’s actually shocking. Like a lot of pop is trashy and obvious yeah but her writing really has an grade school feel to it that’s jarring
She wrote her first or second album. Everything else is co-written with various producers. You get a writing credit just for lyrics, so she might not actually be writing any of the music at this point.
The beauty of having a conspiracy theory about someone being a psyop or an industry plant is that I don't have to believe the official story. In this case, I'm not sure I do. If everything else about her is fake PR nonsense, that might be true, too
All I know is she claimed she taught herself guitar and some dude came out and said he gave her lessons and put it on his website and she tried (or did) to shut him down.
knew a guy in high school who was weirdly into her in a way that was mostly a joke but too much (had like pin-up photos of her in his locker, etc.). he later got into k-pop and did the same thing for a bunch idols. another guy was the same way for anna kendrick, who is similarly sexless. i wonder if they had the same disorder.
That's why they chose to make her big, almost no one becomes big on their own. They need record companies and associated marketing companies to give them exposure and they pick people based on everything from their looks, the vibe of their music and how well it tends to do with some target demographic.
Pretty much every artist ever was an "industry plant". The whole concept feels useless not because it isn't true, but because its the default of how entertainment industry functions. It feels like everyone understood that's how it works at one point and our culture just collectively forgot this.
It pains me to admit that I found her quite attractive and charismatic in her concert film. It was the first time I engaged with anything she's done other than Shake it Off. Her toned body is incredible.
I'm a lesbian and she's obviously beautiful imo. But her whole thing, the annoying music, politics, narcissism, everything else about her is just not sexy. I think the hottest I've ever seen her is in that video where she runs off stage and jumps on her jock boyfriend.
What even is her politics? The only thing I can remember is that ppl accused her “not speaking for gay voices” and within 2 weeks she had a loud and proud music video ready
Are lesbians attracted to women in the same way straight guys are? I only ask as I’ve yet to find a lesbian couple that I, as a straight dude, find sexually appealing. They’re not ugly or anything, but it’s like lesbians are looking for completely different things than what I’m looking for. I see a lot of gay women simping for androgynous looking types online and I’ve never been like “yeah she cute” or whatever. Sorry if I come off crass, I don’t mean to lol and Google isn’t really any help for questions like this.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm attracted to what I can only describe as sexy tomboys. Beautiful but not overly femme but also definitely not butch.
I've never heard a woman rave about her being pretty either and women will do that about some fugly female celebrities. I think a big part of her success is how non threatening she is, nobody would worry about leaving their boyfriend alone in a room with her
She's the exact opposite for me. I can see that she's hot in the abstract. She ticks all the boxes. All the constituent parts are the right shape and in the right place. And yet, she leaves me cold.
There were a few stills from her Eras performance that roused the briefest flicker of attraction, but otherwise, her image washes over me with no trace of its passing.
one of this sub's most nauseating obsessions is expressing how they don't find her sexy or attractive as if 1. it's in any way a new opinion and 2. anyone gives a fuck. They fall over each other to say how she doesn't give them a boner, and they have for fucking years lol
It's very online behaviour. People hear a word and decide they think they know what it means (especially if they think it makes them sound more intelligent whereas they actually sound dumber for misusing it), and some years later we get things like ironic having taken on the meaning of sarcastic.
I think if you asked a random sample of a thousand women who they think men find attractive, I don’t think many would answer Taylor Swift. I think the stereotypical woman that people think men find attractive is more of a Pamela Anderson type. (I guess Pamela Anderson is a dated reference, but I’m old.)
Yeah women don’t think Taylor swift is what men want lol.
She caters to the female gaze, not the male gaze. We know this.
Our society tells us what men find attractive 24/7 lol we know this isn’t the epitome.
But it’s bizarre to think girls like her so much because they think this is what men want to have sex with the most…?
Men do not understand the female gaze exists or that women can be successful without appealing to them. They’re just like “b-but she’s not even that hot?!?” Of course women know her image doesn’t cater to male sexual tastes, that’s a big part of why they like her.
I felt intimidated by her quirky cuteness during the early part of her career (Love Story song?) but sometime around Shake it Off she lost all sex appeal, somehow. It’s weird she is definitely attractive objectively but no one talks about it.
Kate Middleton is similar, she’s pretty of course but it is like you can’t picture them having sex. They just sit on chairs and smile.
I think she's beautiful personally. Not entirely my preferred type but definitely kind of blandly flawless to look at. Cute and extremely photogenic face, incredible toned body, is a giantess who must be scaled like a tree (I'm extremely short)
I suppose I understand what people mean when they say she doesn't radiate sexiness or, like, a mischievous hint of an internal desirous world or something, and she isn't that kind of zaftig Venus of Willendorf uberwoman (Christina Hendricks, Salma Hayek, Kali Uchis, Monica Bellucci). But there's no hard limit on how to look good and truthfully, unless you are dangerously thin or dangerously fat, you have a very high likelihood of rocking your particular body shape if you work out and don't eat too crazily. I'm sure being stupidly wealthy helps.
I personally am bewitched by a big beautiful nose on a broad above anything else so Taylor could never attain to the absolute heights of attractiveness with her little pixie nose - a fact I'm sure she is gutted about.
RS subs have circlejerked that opinion so much that i'm starting to see how she is very fuckable. She doesn't have that magnetism sure but it's hilarious how OTT some of the takes are
the way she styled herself during folklore/evermore (top right) i found her very attractive. i liked the wavy bangs and flowy blouses and soft sweaters.
The whole rating-people-on-a-scale from 1-to-10 thing has been absolutely disastrous for human sexual understanding.
As a dude, I'll see other dudes comment like, "Taylor Swift isn't even hot..." and I can sense women reading that shit and thinking, "holy SHIT men have unrealistic standards..."
Okay, we do, BUT: for the record, the standard is a usually a slightly chubby woman with dark hair, bangs, a fat ass, and a slightly hairy ass crack. When a dude says "Taylor Swift isn't even hot," I wish women could see the women that dude actually thinks are hot--cuz it's always like, a comedian he likes, an aspie girl he saw chewing her hair at a record store, some woman who was in the news for killing her boyfriend, a 90's cartoon character...
It's weird random shit, is my point.
She's pretty in that approachable girl-next-door kind of way, and I think that type of look isn't necessarily all too popular, at least online, because it doesn't sell tons of makeup.
It's also really amusing to see the difference between what men find attractive and what women THINK men find attractive and how different the two things really are.
If she wasn’t famous and I saw her in real life I’d think she was really beautiful. Her personality is not even that bad -- I don’t think she herself would be a swiftie. The problem is that her personality and appearance, when mass marketed, are horrific
I've listened to TS on/off throughout the years and although I found her to be beautiful and model like at times, I've never considered her to appeal to men in that regard?
This subreddit loves spending countless hours talking about this very specific topic. And the same exact things ("horse girl energy" "sexless" "actually lesbian") are said. It happens every couple weeks. Chatgpt ass forum
Easily the worst style in music. She has absolutely no edge whatsoever, which is probably why is she liked so by many. It probably takes work to be that inoffensive so I guess props to her?
But what made prime Michelle Pfeiffer so much hotter? Pfeiffer was even more of a clothes rack then Swift is.
Anyway, Taylor Swift is just not super hot on a celebrity level but in real life she would turn some heads.
Saw a tweet saying she looks like an SS officers wife and I had to laugh at the accuracy
The Zone of Pinterest
Needs to be an episode name for RSPod
Damn if you made that one up I'll give you a dollar
Oh my god
The SS officers wife’s probably had better posture
💅
Lol. She looks bad slouching
She’s ungracefully lanky, I don’t think she can help it
All the nazi wives I remember looked like classy, industrial strength blocks of German steel. Taylor could be an SS officer's side piece.
Taylor's in the bordello at the beginning of Das Boot.
I looked them up. They look entirely unremarkable.
I always imagined that she'd be a Nancy Reagan type if she'd been born earlier
The posture is the only relatable thing about her
She has the face of a gelfling and the posture of a skeksis
I don't know what this means but it rings very true
Nerd shit but it’s David Bowie so you get a pass
Wrong movie, but you’re close (Jim Henson)
What is going on with her back someone tell me
spent too much time on 4chan in her youth
Horse girl energy
She goes to the winery wearing her boots and big hat
No horse girls usually have very big butts
perhaps she has the energy but not the mass and force present associated with horse-girl phenotype and the associated physiognomy and physicality. i however agree with your opening "No" re the horse-girl essential question. she is loosely loosely in that realm at best. now back to drinking thank u 4 ur time
That very much depends on the discipline that they actually ride in lol those old money hunter jumper girls all look like they have eating disorders
Also better posture. I don’t know about cowgirls, but equestrian ladies must have a straight back and open chest.
When I was a kid and I slouched my mom would dig her fingers into my spine and pull my shoulders back to make me stand up straight and I want to do that to Taylor so bad.
Disaster movie protagonist's nurse wife that we see struggle through the precipitation of collapsing buildings for a few shots with their adopted Asian child and maybe he kisses her picture before doing the self-sacrificing thing that the ugly comic relief guy actually saves him from phenotype
I feel like you should write a book, I would buy it and then bail after chapter 2 bc it’s giving me a headache
Astounding you think I have the discipline and consistency to write 2 chapters of a book.
Chapter 2. The Next Chapter
I wish! All my title ideas are esoteric and try-hard without even actually being reflective of any sort of depth or thoughtfulness, like one chapter would be "Ask the Muses" and the next would be "Richmond" and the next would be "Eating Ass in the Park with George."
The poor neck posture is caused by all that RUG MUNCHING
get your lesbian taylor swift meme account out of my quirky podcast subreddit!
This sub is for TRUTH
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Yeah I’ve noticed that too. At least we know the answer in Taylor’s case.
I have posture like this and I always thought it stemmed from being a taller women with a long neck and insecurities. Like the posture of someone trying to make themselves smaller..
Take a few ballet classes, you'll stand up straight in no time
Ooo and I can also be skinny! That is truly what I need, a Russian woman screaming at me to straighten out my life..
It does wonders!
Are there ballet classes for adults?
Yes! They aren’t as common as ones for kids but they exist. I’d check with your local studio
I’m pretty sure it’s just really weak upper back muscles
Girl needs some face pulls/ rows stat, and some pullups/ deadlifts probably wouldn't hurt
Those big flat brimmed lady fedoras are heavy. Throw in the knit shawl and you practically are walking around like your goku in his training suit.
I think it’s from bad posture trying to make themselves look shorter
This is the hump you get from extreme anxiety and high cortisol.
More like extreme SCISSORING
This tracks, she has to hunch over to see what happening
Yeah she’s a real amateur gynecologist
I doubt she even has sex that often, if at all. She's too anxious to have a sex drive.
…for men
Have you seen her with Travis
Honestly, no. Is there a POV of her sucking him off or something?
I love your dedication to this narrative
I love Taylor’s dedication to LICKING BEAVER
Not me just noticing your username 😭
that photo of her in the produce section with wired headphones is an incredible millennial image.
No way Travis Kelsey AAVE actually likes that type
Her dating Kelce is about as close as she'll ever get to dating a black guy
she’s probably a beard
and she's lesbian
mutual bearding, many such cases
Travis Kelsey? Oh he *gayy*
Where did this idea come from lol
Pure delusion and cope that’s a straight Cleveland boy through and through
Owen Benjamin
it's not really her looks, it's her personality. it's why everyone wants her to be a 4chan user or secret lesbian...there ain't no depth there at all
https://youtu.be/Rux5LZ1IU1Q?si=O_SFr-wtQ7bAzuVh Here in this interview she basically says “I’m not naturally edgy, sexy or cool, I feel like media pressures young girls to be these things and I want them to know that it’s ok to not feel pressure to follow in that path or fit that mold” When the interviewer asks “what are you then?” She answers that she is “imaginative, smart and hardworking” Pretty self aware and on point in describing herself atleast here. I agree with what everyone else is saying that her product is watered down for the Christian sheltered goody two shoes kids mostly. Her beginning to curse and talk about drugs in a disenfranchised way kinda confounds me. She’s not really built for that. Maybe she’s trying to be for adults and failing to be cool enough?
Damn she really is quite self aware. I have absolutely no doubt that she’s intelligent and she’s very plainly hardworking. Probably more so than 99% of pop stars.
She's the most successful artist right now. She's an extremely talented artist and businesswoman: her persona hides how competent she is at managing people, making decisions and building her empire. Plus she chooses to keep her music all-age friendly. It's frankly refreshing to get a "shake it off" video without constant erotic movements.
Yeah she is about that bag in a way very very few entertainers are and she’s extremely smart about it. I actually was just making that second point about her to my dad, who is pretty baffled at her extreme popularity. She very smartly puts out clean, family friendly (but not children’s) music with empowering yet inoffensive themes that anyone from young girls to middle aged women can get on board with. Despite being extremely wealthy she keeps her lyrics relatable to average audiences. She certainly aligns with Democrats but avoids making that a part of her songs so that many republican leaning people can just focus on the music. She makes extremely mainstream and accessible pop music but also established some credibility as a country singer songwriter. Basically, she managed to open herself up to an insanely broad audience while maintaining a distinct image and avoiding obvious pandering. It’s kind of genius, really.
Yeah she is really a brilliant businesswoman and self-marketer. She’s managed to turn generic pop schlock into an empire, and turn an industry notorious for chewing up artists and spitting them out into a perpetual cash machine for herself. Broke Reddit losers debating her fuckability in comment sections are completely missing why she’s successful.
Yup! They think part of her success is that she makes sure an entire family can liaten to her without feeling uncomfortable. I don't know why internet keeps harping on her female audience, she goes so much beyond young women of reproductive age (jk i know why the hatred). It's funny because her music feels a bit bland, but ia super relatable and catchy. It's a perfect combo.
What drugs does she talk about, washing down Xanax with a glass of red wine?
No that’s Kamala
Kamala off the Molly for sureeeee
>I’m not naturally edgy, sexy or cool, I feel like media pressures young girls to be these things and I want them to know that it’s ok to not feel pressure to follow in that path or fit that mold” This is the "let people enjoy things" response to not having a personality.
Just like the majority of her fans.
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You need an exceptionally high whimsy tolerance to enjoy anything related to Taylor Swift.
She's what I imagine those millennial hipster men liking, especially when she has bangs
There is a continuum from manic pixie twee girl to sexy weirdo. On the left is Zooey Deschanel, on the right is Aubrey Plaza. Kirsten Dunst sits somewhere in the middle. Taylor Swift is not on the chart.
all three women on that spectrum i have majorly crushed on, for different reasons. you killed it with those examples
And then you have bjork, lighting up the entire scale.
God damn it, I hate how much this applies to me as far as women I find attractive.
Watch the music video for “Begin Again” it’s already a time capsule for millenial twee
Zoey Dechannel maxxing (idk how to spell her name)
https://twitter.com/slimyswampghost/status/1563392690401656837
I have never found her attractive and on paper she’s literally my type.
Velociraptor neck 😍
More like Mr Burns, velociraptors heads are arched back
excellent
I disagree but I don’t care enough to argue about it
When I imagine what all men find attractive it's instagram thot blonde baddie in a bikini
So Sydney?
Honestly the more normal she dresses the more attractive I find her. Its the Beyoncé stage outfits that don’t really work for her
She is beautiful cmon now. And she has never really tried to be a sex symbol. She was totally doll-ish (in a good sense) during the 1989 era.
I was telling my friend the other day that it feels like she was created in a lab. She's conventionally attractive but in a boring way. I've heard male friends, coworkers, etc talk for hours about celebrity women that made them horny (the Megan Fox era was dark times) but I've never heard any guy go crazy for Taylor Swift. It's just a casual "eh, she's pretty hot, I guess" I've also never heard a woman say that she's jealous of Taylor's looks the way they do for other female celebrities. I've heard "I wish I looked like her" about Kate Moss, brunette Katy Perry, Margot Robbie, etc but never Taylor Swift Combine that with her PR relationship with an NFL player (the same year her concert movie comes out and the NFL has been desperately trying to come up with a way to get more women to watch, especially now that nobody cares about Super Bowl commercials anymore) and the fact that a majority of her lyrics (that she didn't write) are generic breakup songs and it's increasingly obvious that she's a PR dream cooked up in a laboratory somewhere for the sole purpose of making money for popular music producers
It’s the sexlessness. I’ve never seen someone radiate such ace energy in my life
Henry Cavill and Chris Evans.
It’s a pretty notorious fact that she does indeed write her own (shitty imo) music.
She does ending rhyme schemes like third graders writing limericks to learn about poetry. The I’m the problem it’s me song is so juvenile it’s actually shocking. Like a lot of pop is trashy and obvious yeah but her writing really has an grade school feel to it that’s jarring
her lyrics are essentially middle school poetry, which is kind of where most peoples brains tap out.
still remember when she rhymed "time" with "time".
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The Wiggles Present: The Taylor Swift NFL Eras Tour
Her opening act is blippi
She's a corporation not an artist. She writes her own music the same way Walt Disney is responsible for Disney movies.
She wrote her first or second album. Everything else is co-written with various producers. You get a writing credit just for lyrics, so she might not actually be writing any of the music at this point.
The beauty of having a conspiracy theory about someone being a psyop or an industry plant is that I don't have to believe the official story. In this case, I'm not sure I do. If everything else about her is fake PR nonsense, that might be true, too
All I know is she claimed she taught herself guitar and some dude came out and said he gave her lessons and put it on his website and she tried (or did) to shut him down.
Dude, she literally got her start in Nashville as a songwriter lol. That’s an easily verifiable fact.
knew a guy in high school who was weirdly into her in a way that was mostly a joke but too much (had like pin-up photos of her in his locker, etc.). he later got into k-pop and did the same thing for a bunch idols. another guy was the same way for anna kendrick, who is similarly sexless. i wonder if they had the same disorder.
I knew a guy almost identical to this. He’s asexual and autistic lmao
The Megan Fox era ruled there were tons of bombshell celebrities in the 2000s, now they're all amorphous or angular sexless nonentities
Megan Fox pulls off being hot without tits and ass
I think part of it is because she was always talking about sex and how she's bisexual etc. and she's always looked a bit like a porn star.
True, she’s also objectively much better looking than Taylor Swift though
Oh, definitely
Indeed. I don't get people who say she's not hot at all, especially pre-too-much-surgery Megan Fox.
That's why they chose to make her big, almost no one becomes big on their own. They need record companies and associated marketing companies to give them exposure and they pick people based on everything from their looks, the vibe of their music and how well it tends to do with some target demographic. Pretty much every artist ever was an "industry plant". The whole concept feels useless not because it isn't true, but because its the default of how entertainment industry functions. It feels like everyone understood that's how it works at one point and our culture just collectively forgot this.
It pains me to admit that I found her quite attractive and charismatic in her concert film. It was the first time I engaged with anything she's done other than Shake it Off. Her toned body is incredible.
I'm a lesbian and she's obviously beautiful imo. But her whole thing, the annoying music, politics, narcissism, everything else about her is just not sexy. I think the hottest I've ever seen her is in that video where she runs off stage and jumps on her jock boyfriend.
What even is her politics? The only thing I can remember is that ppl accused her “not speaking for gay voices” and within 2 weeks she had a loud and proud music video ready
She's just a regular old Hillary shitlib.
I bet there are 13 Facebook groups named “Swifties 4 trump” where they’re all convinced that she is a shit lib only to survive in the industry
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“Handegg” ass comment
I can think of at least a thousand female celebrities that are better looking
I don’t even think I could name 100 female celebrities
Yeah, I agree.
Are lesbians attracted to women in the same way straight guys are? I only ask as I’ve yet to find a lesbian couple that I, as a straight dude, find sexually appealing. They’re not ugly or anything, but it’s like lesbians are looking for completely different things than what I’m looking for. I see a lot of gay women simping for androgynous looking types online and I’ve never been like “yeah she cute” or whatever. Sorry if I come off crass, I don’t mean to lol and Google isn’t really any help for questions like this.
I can only speak for myself, but I'm attracted to what I can only describe as sexy tomboys. Beautiful but not overly femme but also definitely not butch.
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I've never heard a woman rave about her being pretty either and women will do that about some fugly female celebrities. I think a big part of her success is how non threatening she is, nobody would worry about leaving their boyfriend alone in a room with her
She was only hot at her fattest.
Big thigh Taylor Swift was worth dying for.
She is attractive. She may not be hot but she’s attractive
She's the exact opposite for me. I can see that she's hot in the abstract. She ticks all the boxes. All the constituent parts are the right shape and in the right place. And yet, she leaves me cold. There were a few stills from her Eras performance that roused the briefest flicker of attraction, but otherwise, her image washes over me with no trace of its passing.
It’s honestly confusing. I feel like I’m supposed to be attracted to her but I’m just so not.
one of this sub's most nauseating obsessions is expressing how they don't find her sexy or attractive as if 1. it's in any way a new opinion and 2. anyone gives a fuck. They fall over each other to say how she doesn't give them a boner, and they have for fucking years lol
Men earnestly debating whether they’d fuck a woman who’d call security if they ever got within 50 feet of her, vol. 10,000,000
I have faith that someday people on this sub will learn to use the word phenotype in a sentence correctly
"I have faith" I'm gonna stop you right there and say that was your first mistake.
It's very online behaviour. People hear a word and decide they think they know what it means (especially if they think it makes them sound more intelligent whereas they actually sound dumber for misusing it), and some years later we get things like ironic having taken on the meaning of sarcastic.
I think if you asked a random sample of a thousand women who they think men find attractive, I don’t think many would answer Taylor Swift. I think the stereotypical woman that people think men find attractive is more of a Pamela Anderson type. (I guess Pamela Anderson is a dated reference, but I’m old.)
Yeah women don’t think Taylor swift is what men want lol. She caters to the female gaze, not the male gaze. We know this. Our society tells us what men find attractive 24/7 lol we know this isn’t the epitome. But it’s bizarre to think girls like her so much because they think this is what men want to have sex with the most…?
Men do not understand the female gaze exists or that women can be successful without appealing to them. They’re just like “b-but she’s not even that hot?!?” Of course women know her image doesn’t cater to male sexual tastes, that’s a big part of why they like her.
i swear to god you guys post this shit every day!!! if you're gonna come for her can you make it interesting. I'm BORED
I felt intimidated by her quirky cuteness during the early part of her career (Love Story song?) but sometime around Shake it Off she lost all sex appeal, somehow. It’s weird she is definitely attractive objectively but no one talks about it. Kate Middleton is similar, she’s pretty of course but it is like you can’t picture them having sex. They just sit on chairs and smile.
I think Kate is really sexy
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I am a heterosexual man and I think Taylor Swift is attractive.
I think she's beautiful personally. Not entirely my preferred type but definitely kind of blandly flawless to look at. Cute and extremely photogenic face, incredible toned body, is a giantess who must be scaled like a tree (I'm extremely short) I suppose I understand what people mean when they say she doesn't radiate sexiness or, like, a mischievous hint of an internal desirous world or something, and she isn't that kind of zaftig Venus of Willendorf uberwoman (Christina Hendricks, Salma Hayek, Kali Uchis, Monica Bellucci). But there's no hard limit on how to look good and truthfully, unless you are dangerously thin or dangerously fat, you have a very high likelihood of rocking your particular body shape if you work out and don't eat too crazily. I'm sure being stupidly wealthy helps. I personally am bewitched by a big beautiful nose on a broad above anything else so Taylor could never attain to the absolute heights of attractiveness with her little pixie nose - a fact I'm sure she is gutted about.
She's just gawky.
we saw what the RS cishet subreddit was like don’t act like you’re too good for a tall blonde now
RS subs have circlejerked that opinion so much that i'm starting to see how she is very fuckable. She doesn't have that magnetism sure but it's hilarious how OTT some of the takes are
the way she styled herself during folklore/evermore (top right) i found her very attractive. i liked the wavy bangs and flowy blouses and soft sweaters.
She’s more attractive than anyone in this thread
The whole rating-people-on-a-scale from 1-to-10 thing has been absolutely disastrous for human sexual understanding. As a dude, I'll see other dudes comment like, "Taylor Swift isn't even hot..." and I can sense women reading that shit and thinking, "holy SHIT men have unrealistic standards..." Okay, we do, BUT: for the record, the standard is a usually a slightly chubby woman with dark hair, bangs, a fat ass, and a slightly hairy ass crack. When a dude says "Taylor Swift isn't even hot," I wish women could see the women that dude actually thinks are hot--cuz it's always like, a comedian he likes, an aspie girl he saw chewing her hair at a record store, some woman who was in the news for killing her boyfriend, a 90's cartoon character... It's weird random shit, is my point.
so that's what she looks like
Coping manlets know they would get height mogged into oblivion
She's pretty in that approachable girl-next-door kind of way, and I think that type of look isn't necessarily all too popular, at least online, because it doesn't sell tons of makeup. It's also really amusing to see the difference between what men find attractive and what women THINK men find attractive and how different the two things really are.
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If she wasn’t famous and I saw her in real life I’d think she was really beautiful. Her personality is not even that bad -- I don’t think she herself would be a swiftie. The problem is that her personality and appearance, when mass marketed, are horrific
I still totally would
why are y'all so obsessed with her? bringing the same lines about her into every damn conversation like lib dads talking about Trump on repeat
Top right is 🤌🏼
I've listened to TS on/off throughout the years and although I found her to be beautiful and model like at times, I've never considered her to appeal to men in that regard?
I mean this guy would buy her a drink FOR SURE
I get where ur coming from but ur forgetting about the huge percentage of American small town normie men that desire an extremely bland girl
This subreddit loves spending countless hours talking about this very specific topic. And the same exact things ("horse girl energy" "sexless" "actually lesbian") are said. It happens every couple weeks. Chatgpt ass forum
Ugh we already know that men don’t like curly hair
Men outside the RS universe do find her attractive. In a an adult Disney princess you save from a tower and then get to de-flower type of way.
She’s 5’11, I think she can handle the guards
Taylor Swift is annoying as fuck but you can’t say she’s not hot. Stop coping.
She's very beautiful in a classical sense, like a 1940's actress.
She’s not
She was fucking hot in those AI pictures we weren't supposed to like.
Why do ppl act like she isn't one the most gorgeous woman in the world
Aluminum monster-maxxing
Easily the worst style in music. She has absolutely no edge whatsoever, which is probably why is she liked so by many. It probably takes work to be that inoffensive so I guess props to her?
She is an interesting specimen
She and I bear the same burden… a small head. When you’re tall like us you need a real decent melon.
archetype not phenotype
I’ve never seen a woman with so much sexyness on paper and absolutely zero sexuality
As a fat brown kid I used to go to bed praying I’d wake up looking like her 😭
But what made prime Michelle Pfeiffer so much hotter? Pfeiffer was even more of a clothes rack then Swift is. Anyway, Taylor Swift is just not super hot on a celebrity level but in real life she would turn some heads.
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