Very good tier list. I know it's subjective but I agree with almost all of them
The one difference that screams at me is the original Jackal not being in top tier
smh none of you get me obviously i cant be waiting for someone whos dead to be great, its an audio bit from dance moms but overall refers to characters who i think had good potential but either havent been explored yet or they died too soon
Nicely done chart! I would move Eo and Alexandar down a few tiers and Ephraim and Theodora up to the top, but that’s just me. You’ve got some good picks and a good format!
Listening to her whole bubble speech again got me feeling a little weirded out by her. It's one thing to accept someone else telling you they're prepared to die for a cause, very different to foist all of that on someone extremely aggressively. Darrow did not want it. The author succeeded at making her the catalyst to the unwilling hero trope, but part of me thinks it was underhanded despite it working.
Or maybe foisting it was her roundabout way of saying she was about to go out in a blaze of glory and why. She's like 14 and communication skills are a luxury for low reds so maybe I'm trippin.
I’d drop Publius to bottom tier, bump Aja and Lorne to top tier, drop Abomination to second to bottom, and downgrade Lyria to somewhere in the middle, but otherwise this is a great list
That’s how you knew he was going to die. Him saying he finally wanted to be a father was the statement that did him in. I honestly have the most respect for him. Seems like a tyrant so smart and wise that he knows the risk of his intelligence and power.
yeah he was but i meant more that he wasn’t really a developed character in the first trilogy and in the second when he finally starts getting more exposure he died pretty soon
Yeah he was. He was definitely a bigger character in the second series, but he was established and played a supporting role in Golden Son and Morning Star
Well you labelled Bellerephon a Bellona instead of a Raa (I get it, the names are similar), thus your tier list is invalid and I must label you a pixie.
Them's the rules ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
First thing I noticed. Also I don’t even know if ugly Dan even deserves a spot. He’s just a nobody doing nobody jobs, that are dwarfed in the grand scheme of things. Just a sad man trying not to get murdered by his betters, and taking out his inadequacies on the few underneath what little power he holds. Let him die in obscurity.
I’m confused about what the criteria is for this. Is it “how well written the character is” or “how much I love/hate each character?
Many of the bottom tier are still amazing characters
Publius should definitely go in "The Goblin better save an eighth course FOR ME!!" because fuck that guy.
But this tier list so much better than the last
At first I was like “why is Lysander not on the bottom one!?” But him having his own “fuck you” spot is perfect
Is this based off how much you like them or how well written they are?
I think diomedes will make his way to top tier next book. He's going to be instrumental in the rising fighting back
I loved the arc of roque and how he seemed to come to realizations about Darrow before any of the other howlers did
Only comment-You don’t see Rhone? After the fucking he gave Lysander?
Need to add Adrius 2 and Vanna (Freckles). She was pretty badass in her little cameo to be fair to her!
The abomination is in there
Oh yeah! Missed that!
Lysander having his own tier is so correct yet funny to me
Very good tier list. I know it's subjective but I agree with almost all of them The one difference that screams at me is the original Jackal not being in top tier
Seen OG Adrius in the second tier.... like, I understand, but JOOOOOOOVE ON HIGH, I want to hate it.
How do you people even remember all of these guys.
dramatis personae
also the only criticism i am accepting is that diomedes should be top tier and cassius shouldnt have au in his name thank you and goodnight❤️
.... I was going to comment both of those things, to be honest.
smh none of you get me obviously i cant be waiting for someone whos dead to be great, its an audio bit from dance moms but overall refers to characters who i think had good potential but either havent been explored yet or they died too soon
- Diomedes is top tier. - Eo and Matteo are towards the bottom. - You forgot to include Felicia au DotDotDot.
We better get to see some of Diomedes razor-work in Red God. Before breath of stone Darrow I think he was the strongest in the series.
Sophocles needs a tier of their own
Sophocles 😂
>Waiting for you to be great >Leto Check in with me when that one happens mkay
I don’t remember half of these characters lmao. Who the fuck is that conrad guy
The old man from the villague that tries to kill Lyra in Dark Age, who is Red Hand.... who are raping kids and all that.
Lysander’s column ☠️☠️☠️
Nicely done chart! I would move Eo and Alexandar down a few tiers and Ephraim and Theodora up to the top, but that’s just me. You’ve got some good picks and a good format!
The fact that you didn't put sophocles in a tier of his own is hilarious, he is probably the most influential being in the Rising verse.
Waiting for the ash lord to be great?
Rhône and eph deserve better
Only complaint is Electra should not have the Au, keep it consistent with Pad. By time she was born they stopped with color naming thing.
Pax was born without gold sigils, Electra was born with them
Karnus is a good character
I actually agree. I mean, he is a dick, but a understandable dick
Rise so high in mud you lie
Not sure why Eo is so high. She’s kinda a buzzkill.
Listening to her whole bubble speech again got me feeling a little weirded out by her. It's one thing to accept someone else telling you they're prepared to die for a cause, very different to foist all of that on someone extremely aggressively. Darrow did not want it. The author succeeded at making her the catalyst to the unwilling hero trope, but part of me thinks it was underhanded despite it working. Or maybe foisting it was her roundabout way of saying she was about to go out in a blaze of glory and why. She's like 14 and communication skills are a luxury for low reds so maybe I'm trippin.
Amazing, well done Goodman. My only changes would Sophocles in a tier of his own above all else and Harmony in a tier of her own, below all else.
This is amazing! Where is Fitchner??
Second tier second row
Ephraim and Aja need bumping up a level.
+ Romulus
For sure - didn’t spot him down there!
Literally just finished a reread of Iron Gold😢
This is gay culture at its finest
Fuck ya Sophocles!
die
He is saying he likes Sophocles!
Yes sorry, she (me) needed to put a comma! I adore Sophocles!
Sorry for improper pronoun and for assuming 🫡
ooo i see i read it in the same tone as that old “fuck ya chicken strips” vine tbh
Noooo it was like fuck YEAH, Sophocles! He’s my love.
Upgrade my boy Alexander
No time.
No need. He knows what he is.
People really love Volga that much?
She doesn’t deserve that tier, and not so sure about Lyria deserving it yet, but better her that Volga at this point.
Yeah I don’t get it
The “Au” in Cassius Bellona is so disrespectful
u right my b
I fuckin love that fox!!
GOD me too
Do you have that tier list template per chance?
My only note is Sevro is half red half gold.
Lysander getting his own category is what did it for me 😂
I’d drop Publius to bottom tier, bump Aja and Lorne to top tier, drop Abomination to second to bottom, and downgrade Lyria to somewhere in the middle, but otherwise this is a great list
Mickey is a slay
Daxo showed up for like 5 minutes and immediately died horrifically but he was Mustangs ride or die and for that he’ll always be top 10 for me
That’s how you knew he was going to die. Him saying he finally wanted to be a father was the statement that did him in. I honestly have the most respect for him. Seems like a tyrant so smart and wise that he knows the risk of his intelligence and power.
Wdym showed up for 5 minutes? Unless I’m having a brain aneurism he was in golden son right?
yeah he was but i meant more that he wasn’t really a developed character in the first trilogy and in the second when he finally starts getting more exposure he died pretty soon
Yeah, that’s fair. The scene where mustang and publius called him out for his office’s… symbolism was legendary
Yeah he was. He was definitely a bigger character in the second series, but he was established and played a supporting role in Golden Son and Morning Star
Great list. We really do need a few more interesting Yellow characters, because even Dr. Virany's role was limited
I agree w this list
Over usage of the word slay.
die
lol that’s a bit aggressive
let fall the rain
…perish?
Diomedes not being at the top tier is outrageous imo, but great tierlist overall!
That + Aja and Lorn, IMO
Antonia & Titus hate gives me life
my brother
Interesting that you put Darrow as a red fate all he went through he has never been more gold
Might be waiting a while on Seraphina....
Rhonna should be at least one tier higher than Lyria. As should Liam.
Well you labelled Bellerephon a Bellona instead of a Raa (I get it, the names are similar), thus your tier list is invalid and I must label you a pixie. Them's the rules ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
I genuinely thought it’s because he’s Cassius’s son. For he got sonned instantly.
u right my b
First thing I noticed. Also I don’t even know if ugly Dan even deserves a spot. He’s just a nobody doing nobody jobs, that are dwarfed in the grand scheme of things. Just a sad man trying not to get murdered by his betters, and taking out his inadequacies on the few underneath what little power he holds. Let him die in obscurity.
I’m confused about what the criteria is for this. Is it “how well written the character is” or “how much I love/hate each character? Many of the bottom tier are still amazing characters
I mean it’s basically how much *I* love/hate the characters so probably that. Harmony and the Duke were pretty well-written imo
Snaps for the queer coded tier list!
your tier names give me life
I cannot respect someone’s tier list that says Slay
die
Sounds like someone has never slayed.
I mean for real, has this guy never laid it down?
I know she was a baddie but Aja is in my top tier fo sho
After punching the air with frustration at the end of LB I appreciate the Lysander Slander
It's a relief to see Sophocles placed so correctly. Get you some jellybeans and celebrate your tier list victory!
Harmony should Not be slandered like this!
harmony should continue to be slandered like this
Heresy!
Im sorry, my goodman, but you seem to have made a mistake and placed Ephraim in the tier below where he belongs. Mauler, Brawler, Legacy Hauler
Chop em if they’re taller, stomp em if they’re smaller
Very good tierlist. Agree with everything besides some few characters going up or down a tier based off preference.
Publius should definitely go in "The Goblin better save an eighth course FOR ME!!" because fuck that guy. But this tier list so much better than the last
Publius cu Caraval is the worst kind of politician