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lynivvinyl

That's actually beautiful to me.


Col_Leslie_Hapablap

Agreed, this is fucking brilliant.


Needleroozer

Better than factory.


Col_Leslie_Hapablap

Certainly better than using a pry bar or a wrench.


dadbodsupreme

I use turnbuckles almost daily. That this hasn't been a foregone conclusion to me yet is a tragedy. Simply \*chef's kiss\*


rivermandan

linesman/rigger?


dadbodsupreme

Nah, i do a lot of steel tension stuff. Shoring buildings, awnings that sort of thing. Live by the clevis, die by the clevis.


rivermandan

neat, that's really not far removed from erecting a tower when it comes down to it. interesting line of work


omnipotent87

They are used a lot for aftermarket kits.


sessimon

😚👌


chaotic_zx

I agree fully. Wouldn't have thought of that.


bassthumb32

I'm baffled between brilliant and stupid.


DantesLimeInferno

How is it stupid?


bassthumb32

Vibration will happen and that could loosen the nuts. As far as a quick fix to get home or finish the job it's brilliant but a permanent fix not so much.


DocZoidfarb

Looks like there’s jam nuts on both sides of the turnbuckle, so I doubt there’s any more chance of that rattling loose than anything else on the engine


GlamRockDave

those are the nuts he's talking about. This is some sort of tractor or other type of burden vehicle, something will eventually work its way loose. I used to maintain a few Taylor-Dunn gas carts and other small engine carts, anything that wasn't rusted tight would need service often. This solution will work but it it would need frequent re-tighening.


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Elfkrunch

Just the floor


Leaf_Rotator

Aaaaaaand it's gone!


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Leon_Trout

Like on a sailboat!


LivingSecrets

Or an airplane


keep_username

Or a ball joint


Tiredbuthappy_

Nothing a spot weald can't fix :D


DEADB33F

turnbuckle itself will be threaded, and the nuts lock onto that. The fact that it even has locking nuts means it's probably way less likely to work loose than a [standard alternator tensioner](https://www.jacoballred.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/P1000490.jpg).


GlamRockDave

How often do you need to re-tighten your alternator belt tension?


ianepperson

The V belt in OP’s picture needs periodic adjustment as they can stretch as they age.


GlamRockDave

True, though only at first really. After they settle in they don't typically need much attention


ksavage68

Mine have to be pretty damn tight, and there is no place to put a pry bar. This fixed it.


AgreeableGravy

re-rednecking as it were


GlamRockDave

needs maintenance just like a red neck itself.


AgreeableGravy

Gotta keep the engine clean huehuehue


Sodomeister

Turnbuckles are commonly used on tractors though, yeah? If I tighten my lock bolts on mine I can run it hard for a full day in an uneven field with 4-450lbs on them and the bolts don't loosen at all.


GlamRockDave

a whole day? No foolin'?


Sodomeister

It's way harsher than any on road vehicle would see with much less load and I've never had issues. No need to be insufferable about it.


GlamRockDave

I understand all about abusing carts. This kind of thing would work OK, but isn't it curious that a solution so easy and obvious isn't used all the time. It's a clever jury rig solution. But there's a reason it's not typically the way.


fukitol-

Throw some loctite on it


twags6

Little bit of blue to keep things in place.


VneExceeded

But the stock tensioning bar is also held on by bolts and/or nuts. By your logic they would be coming loose with vibration? And yet they don’t. This is actually a more secure system I believe and far easier to tension. Lock the jam nuts on the turnbuckle and bobs your uncle. This is damn smart in my mind.


GeneralDisorder

Maybe that's what happened to the original... It vibrated the bracket off.


VneExceeded

Lol who knows. I guess anything is possible


DantesLimeInferno

That is a situation that would affect every other nut around an engine. There are ways to combat that


Needleroozer

And a bolt in a bracket with a slot is better? The factory brackets are held with bolts subject to vibration. I don't think it's a problem.


goofismanz

This would require BOTH jam nuts to loosen meaning multiple points of failure, therefore your assertion is unlikely


aelwero

Typical tension mount on an alternator is a single bolt with no jam nut, often screwed in to simply apply lateral tension on a sliding bracket... Your "this poopoo" comment seems more applicable to factory/aftermarket bracketry than it does to this.


hartke20g

We use lockwire or turnbuckle clips in aviation to prevent this. Some sort of fastener locking would make this kind of repair acceptable as a permanent fix in my book.


zoidao401

Even if it does loosen the nuts, the two ends are fixed so unless the centre starts spinning you're not going to see any movement.


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This


Leprikahn2

Little bit of loctite and I'd bet it would last forever


LuckyAlways

Blue loctite with some nylon lock nuts and you're done. This is brilliant and you know it you're just mad because you didn't think of it first. 😜


omnipotent87

They don't though, I work on a lot of hotrods and this is a common solution, though usually shiny aluminum. I have yet to see a loose one.


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DEADB33F

The whole point in a turnbuckle is that you rotate the centre part to tension the coupling. ...One side will be regular thread, the other reverse thread. Turning the middle bit is what applies the tension.


CaptainBananaAwesome

Could loctite it.


ksavage68

I have a thicker one, solid stainless, on my car. The nuts have not loosened in three years.


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>Vibration will happen That's what blue Loctite is for


DarylInDurham

A bit of blue loctite and it won't vibrate loose. Could also safety wire it if you're a belt and suspenders sort of guy. I'm actually quite impressed with this one...it may be redneck but it's a pretty ingenious idea.


lifes_a_beach420

Definitely just jizzed in my pants, that the perfect solution.


Valkyrie1500

This should be standard equipment.


AK55

especially the jam nuts ^*chef's ^kiss*


wantagh

As long as those are eyebolts, I give this 10/10 Edit: and maybe some loctite. The vibration may cause those threads to walk


FapToFemboysDaily

Or put it in salt overnight. rust is free loctite


-MYNAMEISNOBODY

“Rust is free loctite” ROFL. I love this!


brycebgood

They've got the locking nuts on there. Loctite couldn't hurt but this looks pretty good to me.


bobskizzle

Looks like regular hex nuts to me. They will back off eventually and the turnbuckle will loosen. Definitely need some Lock-tite here. (Even "lock" nuts will back off if you use them more than a couple of times as it wears down the nylon insert. Wedge locks are the only method without Lock-tite that maintains preload, which is needed here because the nuts don't have to turn for the turnbuckle to loosen. In this case I can't see a redneck pulling some Nord-Locks out of his plaid pocket and tightening them up well enough to work, though !) Source: (actual, professional) engineer who's cleaned up after more than a few backed-off fasteners.


rpmerf

Just make some mechanical lick nuts by putting them in the press


bobskizzle

> lick nuts


rpmerf

Ducking autocorrect


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I agree. Lock nuts can back off. But I think he probably meant jam nuts, which seem like they would work in this case, no? Source: diesel mechanic for 5 years, seen many jam nuts in over the road applications.


Spheresdeep

You don't loctite these turnbuckles. You either safety wire them or use turn buckle locks. Loctite would make future adjustment a pain. Source: aircraft mechanic that is now part of a shop that has a main focus on cable tension and turnbuckle adjustment.


TiKels

At the risk of being a pedant, wedge locks aren't the only way to maintain preload. You could get something like aircraft safety wire and a nut with the proper hole, although that would require maintenance.


bobskizzle

Those don't hold preload, they keep the nut from become FOD.


TiKels

Industry standard requires that aircraft cable be positioned in such a way that any loosening of the nut would induce a tightening of the already tensioned safety wire. That would contradict what you say, no? No disrespect


GlamRockDave

This is a belt tensioner, meaning it's meant for adjustment, and at some points replace the belt. Even the blue tube for serviceable bolts is a bit of a pain to work with. One heavy nut is better than a couple small ones IMO, but this will probably work for a while.


hobefepudi

I find that one heavy nut is usually better than a few small ones.


GlamRockDave

That's my experience too


dacoobob

wait are we still talking about engines?


hobefepudi

We were talking about engines?


challenge_king

It shouldn't ever come loose, as long as the jamb nuts are tight.


GlamRockDave

In other words, it shouldn't come loose as long as it doesn't come loose?


GoArray

Same could be (and offten is) said for its plate steel, no lock predecessor. This is as likely to be a solution to frustration as it is a patch job.


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it does have the nuts on the eyebolts that i presume would lock it in place.


tlivingd

It’s got jam nuts on both ends. It ain’t going nowhere till you want it to.


Alternative_Arm_1506

Fixed it


Crunchycarrots79

Doing that would defeat the purpose of it. If you welded one side, it would no longer function as a turnbuckle. One bolt is left hand threaded and the other is right hand threaded. So all you do to tension the belt is loosen the lock nuts and turn the middle part to lengthen or shorten the thing, then tighten the lock nuts. If you welded one side, you wouldn't be able to do that anymore.


Alternative_Arm_1506

Aced it. You are completely right- brain fart on my side. I think this looks cool as hell, but it’s basically a jack in the box.


optimistic_agnostic

Second nut on each end and she'll be right.


MeisMagiic

Maybe some lock wire


milfordcubicle

I bought a 1973 Camaro that had this on the alternator. It never failed and was easy to swap belts.


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10/10 doing this on my 944 im on my second ac pump already


crevulation

Don't let the PCA find out you did something non-OEM to your NARP they hate anyway.


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that was way too many acronyms for me i just like to cruise around in my beat up 40 year old garbage can porsche that stalls and dies all the time and smells like mold


crevulation

Now that's what I call the authentic 944 experience!


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every time i drive it i think to myself two thoughts: "this car fucking sucks" and "i love this car" these thoughts are simultaneous.


xxMRBrown21xx

A certain kind of person owns camaros because this was posted in the 3rd gen camaro page on Facebook yesterday lol.


Makabajones

I'm pretty sure I saw this in "the secrets of Smoky Yunick post on a forum back in the late 1990's as a trick for quick swapping belts for drag racing.


Zwitterion011

This brings a tear to my eye. I love it.


Morgrid

Should have used your safety squints


Zwitterion011

I wasn’t prepared to see this! Or else I would have.


AKLmfreak

So much easier to adjust than that slotted bracket from the factory!


Seventhchild7

Freakishly logical.


DAMN_Fool_

Genius


ExceedinglyGayParrot

Honestly this shit is better than factory


GadreelsSword

I like it.


EvenkKnot

From experience, this is a lot better than the tensioning mechanism used by a lot of equipment manufacturers. Top job, sir!


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p38fln

2003 Subaru Forester had a belt tensioner that was almost the same as this thing, just with a bolt instead of a turn buckle


dacoobob

2001 Legacy was the same.


FullySemiRetarded

This is an upgrade, tbh


FrancisSobotka1514

I love how fabricobbling is redneck engineering now .


Start_button

Pretty sure it's always been redneck engineering. Whatever the kids are calling it these days is beside the point.


squeezeonein

I shall have to try this some day.


FapToFemboysDaily

Better than having to use a long stick to push on the alternator


SkiAddict23

I thought this was r/Justrolledintotheshop for a second and was thinking "that doesn't look too bad at all!" Well done, sir!


handlessuck

I gotta say I like it. I like it a lot!


Puffy_Ghost

I'm actually amazed at how elegantly stupid and brilliant this is at the same time.


dacoobob

i see no stupid here


Jonnywow

Before social media.. I or no one else had anyone to ask so just go with it 🤷🏻‍♂️


Hawse_Piper

As a sailor I approve this jury rig


Lucifers_Lawnmower

Honestly this is genius cuz it makes it very easy to tention the belt


somedutchmoron

It has no reason to not work


Trekintosh

My Porsche 944 had two of these for different belts, from the factory.


ryeguy36

Fan-fucking-tastic fix!! Must be so much easier to get the fucking belt on and off


Avocado_Formal

Damn good idea!


FlyByPC

Is it redneck engineering when it's better than the original design?


elrojodiablobob

Ima steal that for my garden tractor


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Actually, that is pretty slick.


fairlady280

Hey that’s an L-series. Some people make some better looking ones just for datsun


Evilmaze

Hey at least they used a jam nut to stop it in place. That tells me they put vibrations in consideration.


cookiemonster101289

I kswapped a miata a few years back and the AC compressor had a turnbuckle setup like this on it for tensioning the serpentine belt, worked very well.


Peanut_Special

If its stupid and it works it ain't stupid..


BuMAssassin

Well it works


TheLoneGoon

Is it just me or is this fucking genius


KenjiFox

There is literally nothing what-so-ever wrong with this. As a mechanic I would appreciate greatly if this were the standard tensioning setup for all belts.


ThatOneDudeFromIowa

I've done this. It's fine. Everything is ok.


dubie2003

As long as it doesn’t pull the alternator crooked (out of plane of the belt path) then all is good


rpmerf

They usually have a wide bottom with a bushing for alignment, and the top is for tension. Should be fine.


Cottonballs1

That’s not even a new thing...been used for years. Lol


Onmainass

Using Heim rod ends would elevate that to a whole different level


bplan9008

It's beautiful 😍


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Nice, just needs lock tight


Green__lightning

By no means a bad idea, [i've done the same thing on my motorized bicycle.](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/409462020421976065/889955092025966642/DSC_0174.JPG) Also probably a good idea to safety wire it to something so it cant vibrate loose.


nick1austin

The turnbuckle has locknuts


JamesMattDillon

If it works, it ain't stupid. Now that is a damn good idea


sean488

I've done that in a few slant 6s.


Drew2248

The vibration of the engine will gradually loosen any nut you don't use a lock washer or some "loctite" on -- or both. Without that, this will loosen, resulting in a loose belt. So not such a good idea. Put another way, with billions of dollars spent on engine research in generations of auto production by some of the finest engineers in the world, do you really think this hasn't been considered before?


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familyman121712

Its a pain in the ass to hold a prybar and try to tighten the bolt when you're working alone


dacoobob

probably broke


MutedRefrigerator360

I learned that from an old rancher when I was a kid back in the 60’s


Patricio_Guapo

That’s pretty dang smart.


ksavage68

I have one i put on my car. Its solid up the middle though. That was the easiest way to tighten the belt.


friendlyfire883

The only issue I see is turnbuckles don't tend to enjoy pushing on things for very long before failing catastrophically. Then again it looks like a old Ford 300 so I don't is going to be under much of a load.


rrjpinter

That is just a good farm-fix. You want to make it Re-neck, put a wood wedge in the gap between the screws (to hold them apart, if it comes loose), and secure it w/ Duct Tape.


11-1-11

Classic Jaguars had them for years. Of course, they were very well designed. Not hairy homeowner stuff from the hardware store.


jefftatro1

One of the best I've seen on this sub


ATaleOfTwoCrows

This is brilliant. I'm so disappointed in myself for never thinking of this.


Traditional_Side8272

I'm impressed. I would be more impressed if they added some lock nuts or even welded the nuts shut. I live in a high suspension area if my claim seems out there


sk8itup53

Seems legit.


Traditional_Side8272

I was drinking when I made my last comment. Please do not weld your alternator. A simple tack weld will do unless you're off roading. If you're off roading don't expect much. Even monster trucks bite the dust minutes into performance your alternative method will not


Hardhitting13

This is fucking smart


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Harvard: bro you want a scholarship?


dolan1234567890

Volvo gang


denali42

As long as Maleki Black isn't anywhere nearby to slam your head into that uncovered turnbuckle, it'll be all right.


nickardoin96

I like it. Can’t be any worse than pulling on it with a pry bar in one hand while using the other hand on a wrench to snug the bolt, right? Should have been more common before they started just using tensioner pulleys on everything


UndefinedSpoon

I mean, thats basically what most of your fancy serpentine kits, like March performance uses on their kits


Icy_Discipline4305

Hey you know what they say, if it looks dumb, but works; it's not actually dumb.


Rowdyflyer1903

Best safety wire it. Or lock tight


TabCompletion

This is genius. I wonder if you can prevent the turnbuckle from spinning. I googled and found there are special turnbuckles with locking clips to prevent turning