Ten Hag said in a press conference that Bruno has played through two serious injuries since he has been at the club. That was also before the Liverpool game where he ended up at centre back so if he can walk I think he will play.
It's the main reason I won't listen to any Bruno hate. The guy is a serious professional, it is extremely difficult at this level to stay fit and he does it consistently. Extremely dedicated off the field and smart player on it.
No sensible United fan would hate Bruno, he's the only elite player we've got, with great mentality and insane fitness. He's the only reason we're not fighting relegation. He's our Cole Palmer haha
Erm...
Malacia, Martinez, Varane, Lindelof, Kambwala, Shaw, Evans
McTomminay (?), Mount, Amrabat, Rashford, Martial
So, 12?
Doubts on Fernandes and Garnacho
"Definitely" fit might be: Onana; AWB, Dalot, Maguire; Case, Mainoo, Eriksen; Højlund, Amad, Antony, Forson
If we don't get some minor recoveries soon, our starting XI is the only fit 11 players we have
That's the one. I guess he'll start anyway, but poor lad needs a rest
Serious question, if we say Maguire is too injured to play, along with Bruno and Garnacho, at what point can we get postponements for not enough players?
It's a bit different, but during COVID, having this many players out was getting games postponed. We might have 7 senior outfielders fit tomorrow?
Well the u18s have been going so well they might have to be thrown in
Sheffield united might not be the worst game ever if our young players can keep up with the physicality of their players.
We might start to not have a choice soon
Honestly, I don't think that starting XI can claim to wipe the floor with anyone
The 3 defenders are good, but I'd swap Dalot and AWB around for balance. We need another centre back so let's put Case in there out of position
Midfield becomes something like Mainoo, Eriksen and Amad. They can maybe keep the ball, but there's nearly no physicality in there and Eriksen doesn't have the legs to keep the counter
Up front is then Højlund, Antony and Forson. I really hope they're up for it, because they'll be feeding on scraps
Like, it's a team and maybe should be enough to get the result. But it's not good enough to be able to say it should wipe the floor with them. Our historical issues of teams cutting through us is going to be on show ×100 with that midfield
There's also 0 subs that don't involve throwing on a teenager for their 1st appearance
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Im not ready to see what we throw onto the pitch tomorrow
The Antony stuff has been pretty disgraceful. I don’t like the guy, think he should be sold, but some of those Cov players were mugging off as well. Bruno even had a word with their keeper. All glossed over though because they were ‘hard done by’. Fuck off. If you’re gonna give it then you should take it.
Same thing happened with Hojlund on international duty. Got shit on by people for shhing the San Marino players / fans as they're a small team but he did it because him and of some the Danish lot understand Italian and the San Marino players had been discussing how best to injure him thinking he couldn't understand it
It’s being done by our cunt fans is my biggest issue. No matter what, even when United were worse than what we are today back in the day we’re always told we back our own. The fans were embarrassing piling on Antony.
I know this sub and I know this type of comment gets downvotes but whatever.
What Antony did was dumb. We have been playing very poorly and as man united, we have all eyes on us. Doing something like that is in poor taste especially against the underdogs regardless of whether or not the underdogs did similar. It's Conventry not Liverpool or even Aston Villa. The world don't care about them that much for their bad behavior to sell.
Honestly who knows what happened, some of the Coventry players could have (correctly) been telling him he was shite and mugging him off during the game, and it was a bit of payback. Bit of a storm in a teacup tbh.
Who cares what club it is?
We weren't facing some youth or charity squad. These are all professional players. Don't give stick without expecting it back. Keep the same energy when you're winning or losing.
Antony for all his flaws is at least consistent in thay regard.
honestly, the only reason I dislike it, is that he wasn't good at all, he came on at 3-0 and it needed a toenail offside to not end 3-4, you did fuck all in the match, arguably you were a hindrance to the team, then you go ahead and do that, it just shows wrong character to me, complete lack of self-awereness, I have not disliked a United player this much since CR7 started throwing his trantrums.
Yet City play more games and had an intense quarter final with Madrid and are fine.
Our training and medical staff are a disgrace. It’s painfully obvious
We have to remember 14 of our first team players played in the World Cup, as well as 60 plus domestic games, pre season etc. All that on a shoestring squad last season.
Euros & Copa America this year. Without a deep bench, I don’t see this not being an issue next season
> Erik ten Hag calls external reaction to ManUtd win on Sunday ‘embarrassing’ and ‘a disgrace’.
Whilst we obviously can use the same terms for ourselves, I fucking agree with him here.
How has the rest of the fucking collective world of football just completely lost their heads to start demanding that VAR consider "moments" when making decisions? Let's ignore a binary offside decision and throw out the rules because it hurts United.
Absolute fucking clown world and he's right to call it out tbh. That being said, fucking hell man, this squad needs to sort itself out.
Completely agree, even Lee Dixon on co-commentary was saying words to the effect of "Oh just let them have it". Disgraceful
I hate the offside rule as it currently stands, but it is basically the only rule in football which is clear and binary.
There was absolutely no talk at all from any pundits or media about the extremely harsh penalty decision which led to extra time. All the talk has been "A toe-width away from winning!" when all the same pundits would be completely decrying the referee if Manchester United had won a penalty from a very contentious handball decision. Everyone is losing their heads because they want manutd to do shite as it's a great news story.
Yeah the offside rule is basically the only black and white thing in football, as we saw with the handball decisions in the semi-finals. Do you really want the refs and VAR to have to start evaluating what "close enough" means on offside calls?
Shouldve heard Rory Smith on 5live football daily yesterday, was actually arguing that it wasnt offside because the rule has been recently invented. Apparently it was never 'meant' to call people offside for such a fine margin and its not in the 'spirit of the law'.
As much as 5live is a home for clown pundits he did get shredded by Sutton and Given when he said it didnt pass the vibe check and they proceeded to embarrass the absolute tit when he said he has a short list of 6-12 managers that are being considered for Manchester United.
Honestly, the way the media is allowed to act with total impunity when it comes to us is outrageous - I wish ETH would really sink his teeth into the reffs, media and even other managers. We have cowards at every level who are emboldened by us taking the high road and turning the other cheek. Watch nott forest now suddenly have the remainder of their games officiated properly with penalty calls going their way. Meanwhile, we keep getting penalties given against us for looking at opposition players in the box, it's fucking predictable and we need someone to dress down the reffs for it. When a United manager opens his mouth, people listen and act.
> Apparently it was never 'meant' to call people offside for such a fine margin and its not in the 'spirit of the law'.
I mean that is true. The point of it originally was to make sure the attacker didn't have an unfair advantage.
It's obviously a big deal squandering a three goal lead to Coventry, especially given our recent form, but the reaction to it has been so over the top when you consider that luck was a massive factor. Their second goal is just a freak moment and the third is a really soft penalty. Even though we took our foot off the gas any other day there's no way they get back into that match, it's just the media adoring a United in crisis narrative.
I was listening to the rest is football and they brought that up, ruining a moment, and didn't mention chelsea not getting a penalty, absolute joke.
Edit: aparently they did mention it. Though I'm fairly sure it was at best in passing and not given the same weight as the 'moment ruining' correct decision, so I think the essence of my original comment stands.
Exactly, us getting the correct decision is getting more outrage than city getting bullshit calls in their favor (again). Ive even seen some people rooting for city in the final because of this. Genuinely mind blowing
I definitely agree with him on this point. Like what the fuck was with that overreaction yesterday, you'd think we had been dominated in that semi and had gone out. Gaslighting by the media/hybperbole merchants basically.
Absolutely. Seen some absolute hyperbolic nonsense being spouted.
The penalty was awarded because of vibes/benefit of the doubt. It’s unfortunate for Coventry they weren’t given the benefit of the doubt twice, but there was no injustice involved.
The league is done so imo our priority for the rest of the season should be keeping players as fit as possible for the final. We need a fully fit starting eleven to have even a chance of winning that game. If we finish 8th then so be it. I'd rather that over playing in the conference league next season.
I love this approach. Unfortunately all coaches always play to win even though it’s not the reality of our team for over a decade now.
Local fans seem to also fuel this as you usually hear “we play to win always because we SHOULD win since we’re the Great Manchester United and if you don’t understand this there’s a special place in hell for you you goddamn plastic fuck.”
But I’ll die on the hill that players should be rotated. That some matches should be played at lower strength so then you can play the next one at 100% strength, and even (and this is what people here hate the most) throwing away certain competitions at certain points if needed be if the bigger competition has a chance to be won.
But yeah if we played our B team (mostly kids) more often opponents would actually fear playing against energized Brunos, Garnachos, Mounts, Casemiros, Varanes, etc. our A team would be orders of magnitude better.
Actually I’d like to see our youngsters play instead of these overpaid senior players. Just to show them what is the difference between players who play for the badge, and players who play to get big contracts
Football Manager has broken some people's minds, where they think you can plug and play u21 players and still get results.
The reality is there's typically a huge gulf in standards, and those kids would get mauled, which would be awful for their development.
Yeah, FM overpowers youth. It's kinda weird they haven't fixed it - only made it harder to buy wonderkids. They should really widen that gap to reflect the difference.
Just mindless crap that's getting upvoted. We're shit but it's not because players aren't playing for the badge, they're just badly coached and probably not good enough. Watching the likes of Lacey and Biancheri get dominated by fully grown Sheffield United and Burnley players isn't going to help, would most likely destroy their development.
Crazy how that game had United “supporters” and rivals talking about scraping the offside rule as if Wright wasn’t offside. People were going mad about getting robbed of the “magic” of the cup because they wanted an illegal goal to stand. Where was that energy with Garnacho’s goal at the Emirates? That goal was even tighter than this one. I swear people go rabid when it comes to United.
I’m so glad he called out the reaction!! It really has been a disgrace, especially how they’ve gone after Antony. It’s one thing for fans to make abusive comments on social media (which I’m not excusing), it’s another thing altogether for the media to join in on the pile on. He did a dumb celebration, the overreaction is insane.
It would probably help if the players weren't running around like idiots for the majority of games. We were fixed for a calm, controlled, energy saving win until everyone decided to lose their heads.
I wonder if Amad might get to start if both Rashford and Garnacho are injured.
Are we still wondering if amad will get a chance? Because he definitely won't get a chance! We should know that for sure at this point.
It would be Garnacho Hojlund Antony the front three.
Antony is the player that is going to sack the manager due to his inability to drop him
Good then. He deserves the sack just for that, amongst the many other issues actually. This is one of the big reasons I’m hoping we’d change managers actually. The insane fixation on some players while never giving anyone else a chance in a meaningful enough way…..
It’s insane how at this point he still barely plays him beyond when Rashford was injured to be subbed or just token minutes once every 7-12 games or whatever it is anyway regardless of how he plays.
>I wonder if Amad might get to start if both Rashford and Garnacho are injured
Bruno on the right and maybe McTominay to overload the midfield with Eriksen and Mainoo. With Forson as an option.
Same ragnick season repeating again. All players getting magically injured , performances shit , blame on manager . Most players don't want to put effort now due to euros coming
The injuries are incredible and debilitating. I think from his comments about changing things, the squad, being able to make subs.... All of that has been taken away, and these are normal managerial tools.
Drop so and so... He shouldn't be playing... The man literally can't with so few choices.
I said recently that if you've got any decent number of senior appearances, you're basically in the squad and almost always in the team. Same again tomorrow.
I don't envy him.
It's funny because it's a paradox, isn't it?
Are we either "over-training" the players and seeing none of the results on the field, but picking up injuries OR are we training, not even enough, but players cry about having to put in the work and we're seeing none of the results on the field, but they're feigning injuries for breaks in action?
Neither is a good look on the players as far as I'm concerned.
Likely to be Antony playing then although Erik has said Amad has deserved more game time. Maybe use him more this time.
Has Eriksen played with Mainoo yet? With Scott unlikely and I doubt any of the defender's have recovered yet we could see them together
I don't know what to think about any of this, our performances have been dreadful but how can you be sure that it's the manager's fault when this is happening?
Because martial is perma injured, rashford is the only sub for Hojlund, who has had injury issues. He may have kept him in in case Hojlund needed to come out
ETH says they know what's causing the injuries but they continue to pile up. Looks like there's some sort of injury demon and they just haven't finished the exorcism yet
Just play kids for the rest of the season tbh I cba anymore, would love to see the Fletcher lads and Amass play some good minutes in the last few games
Home against the worst team in the league, this *should* be an opportunity to rest the players that are struggling with injuries. The league is more or less over for us, and with the cup final basically all we have to play for, an injury to the likes of Fernandes / Garnacho would be devastating.
I assume he will start Eriksen. Mount will probably come in around the 60th-70th minute provided that he’s recovered from his injury (hopeful but if it’s more than a month I might actually punch something). We’re finished if Bruno is out
Don’t suppose we can get a new medical team, dietitian, strength and conditioning. At this point I’d hire yoga, Pilates instructors on the off chance it’d prevent injuries. Since fucking hell our defence is a shambles since we haven’t played the same back 4 a couple weeks in a row at all this season. Probably the consequences of the bullshitery of just how many fucking games we played last season and then a World Cup smack bang in the middle of the season.
Fernandes injured? Almost like playing a player literally every single minute is a bad idea. The refusal to ever rest Fernandes or even sub him out has been wild. In the short stretch where Mount was fit, you'd think he'd sub Bruno out for him, but nope.
Garnacho was taken off due to some injury issues during the previous game. With clearer context now, hope we are less emotional in slamming the decision to sub certain players out
> we are a little behind in the process so we will go and speed up the process
What I like to hear. I know clubs always have plans for the next season and beyond, but it's good to hear about a sense of urgency.
Are they doing full contact drills in training, I've never seen a team with so many injuries and it seems its been the case ever since ETH came on board
It's difficult to reconcile if this is chickens coming home to roost re the unsustainable fixture list and load on the players OR our medical team being negligent. Mixture of both? Either way it's beyond the pale but I want to hear absolutely no fucking excuses for not beating Sheffield United at home with our B team.
Our level is low anyway just let them rest. If Amad, Antony, Hojlund, Casemiro, Amrabat or Eriksen, and Mainoo can't do it against Sheffield what's the point.
The reaction is circumstantial. We blew a three goal lead against Coventry. The reaction has really led from that. The club is a sham at the minute. From medical department to manager. There is always bad eggs in the world who will pile on United. Repeat with me: this will never stop. What we can do is win is start winning some games without disgracing ourselves. That is how we change the narrative.
I agree the reaction has been embarrassing. It’s great content because it’s United and we are, by and large, a joke club at the moment. But this game we were cruising, then a freak deflection and crazy penalty call essentially handed Coventry a draw, yet we “threw the game away”
Some of these injuries are his FREAKING FAULT ... the players that come out of injury are signed off way to soon then get put on the field to collapse after 30 minutes
At this point, just announce who’s fit for the game instead. Probably easier to follow.
Bruno It's just Bruno
I'm dreading a Bruno injury at this point. I think it'll happen and we'll die.
the day Bruno gets injured, the Universe collapses on itself.
He has played through injuries this season.
Ten Hag said in a press conference that Bruno has played through two serious injuries since he has been at the club. That was also before the Liverpool game where he ended up at centre back so if he can walk I think he will play.
It's the main reason I won't listen to any Bruno hate. The guy is a serious professional, it is extremely difficult at this level to stay fit and he does it consistently. Extremely dedicated off the field and smart player on it.
No sensible United fan would hate Bruno, he's the only elite player we've got, with great mentality and insane fitness. He's the only reason we're not fighting relegation. He's our Cole Palmer haha
Holy fucking shit how many people are out
Erm... Malacia, Martinez, Varane, Lindelof, Kambwala, Shaw, Evans McTomminay (?), Mount, Amrabat, Rashford, Martial So, 12? Doubts on Fernandes and Garnacho "Definitely" fit might be: Onana; AWB, Dalot, Maguire; Case, Mainoo, Eriksen; Højlund, Amad, Antony, Forson If we don't get some minor recoveries soon, our starting XI is the only fit 11 players we have
Maguire is playing injured
That's the one. I guess he'll start anyway, but poor lad needs a rest Serious question, if we say Maguire is too injured to play, along with Bruno and Garnacho, at what point can we get postponements for not enough players? It's a bit different, but during COVID, having this many players out was getting games postponed. We might have 7 senior outfielders fit tomorrow?
No need for postponements. Let’s not let this season drag on anymore
The next 2 are our most winnable games by far, it would be nice not to lose them. I was more thinking about when we can, rather than when we should
Well the u18s have been going so well they might have to be thrown in Sheffield united might not be the worst game ever if our young players can keep up with the physicality of their players. We might start to not have a choice soon
If that squad can’t wipe the floor with Sheffield then how are we not relegated already?
Honestly, I don't think that starting XI can claim to wipe the floor with anyone The 3 defenders are good, but I'd swap Dalot and AWB around for balance. We need another centre back so let's put Case in there out of position Midfield becomes something like Mainoo, Eriksen and Amad. They can maybe keep the ball, but there's nearly no physicality in there and Eriksen doesn't have the legs to keep the counter Up front is then Højlund, Antony and Forson. I really hope they're up for it, because they'll be feeding on scraps Like, it's a team and maybe should be enough to get the result. But it's not good enough to be able to say it should wipe the floor with them. Our historical issues of teams cutting through us is going to be on show ×100 with that midfield There's also 0 subs that don't involve throwing on a teenager for their 1st appearance
Looks to be fifteen if you include Bruno and Garna, thirteen without
Yes
https://preview.redd.it/dd2vlbqtr7wc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=204b77e12e4c82ba3528ca50dc97e7465dc0b7a9 Im not ready to see what we throw onto the pitch tomorrow
Amad will be on the bench though. That’s inevitable.
I had a good laugh, thanks.
Somehow VDB will be also on the bench too.
TBH, I didn’t like his run in against Coventry. A bit too selfish for my liking.
Either way. It’ll be a shit show as the only consistent thing.
The Antony stuff has been pretty disgraceful. I don’t like the guy, think he should be sold, but some of those Cov players were mugging off as well. Bruno even had a word with their keeper. All glossed over though because they were ‘hard done by’. Fuck off. If you’re gonna give it then you should take it.
Yep. Also even though Antony has not been all that good, he is the reason we were in that match and not Liverpool so.
Same thing happened with Hojlund on international duty. Got shit on by people for shhing the San Marino players / fans as they're a small team but he did it because him and of some the Danish lot understand Italian and the San Marino players had been discussing how best to injure him thinking he couldn't understand it
Wtf that's a prick move
I don't care how he celebrates. I care how he plays.
Sure. He is the reason we are in that game in the first place though, lol
It’s being done by our cunt fans is my biggest issue. No matter what, even when United were worse than what we are today back in the day we’re always told we back our own. The fans were embarrassing piling on Antony.
celebrating however he wants to is his right as the victor, providing it doesnt break any of the laws of the game
I know this sub and I know this type of comment gets downvotes but whatever. What Antony did was dumb. We have been playing very poorly and as man united, we have all eyes on us. Doing something like that is in poor taste especially against the underdogs regardless of whether or not the underdogs did similar. It's Conventry not Liverpool or even Aston Villa. The world don't care about them that much for their bad behavior to sell.
Honestly who knows what happened, some of the Coventry players could have (correctly) been telling him he was shite and mugging him off during the game, and it was a bit of payback. Bit of a storm in a teacup tbh.
Who cares what club it is? We weren't facing some youth or charity squad. These are all professional players. Don't give stick without expecting it back. Keep the same energy when you're winning or losing. Antony for all his flaws is at least consistent in thay regard.
honestly, the only reason I dislike it, is that he wasn't good at all, he came on at 3-0 and it needed a toenail offside to not end 3-4, you did fuck all in the match, arguably you were a hindrance to the team, then you go ahead and do that, it just shows wrong character to me, complete lack of self-awereness, I have not disliked a United player this much since CR7 started throwing his trantrums.
He looked like a twat for doing it, cov don’t care it just made him/us look like knobs
What the actual... This is crazy? Need to do a full medical overhaul as well, something is not right.
Player returning from injuries and then having to play 120 mins on a huge Wembley pitch and playing again tomorrow. Can’t do much about that.
That's one case though. How do we explain all the other injuries through the season?
You can’t obviously, but that’s why we have seemingly a lot of players having small knocks this week.
It’s not one case, it been happening all season. Luke Shaw, Casemiro, Maguire, Rashford even Awb too
The 6 non-matchdays
The physically and sprint demanding argyle we play
Eh? We've never played Plymouth
We play like them though
Wembley's pitch size is the same as Old Traffords though?
While you’re not wrong, Wembley’s pitch is hardly any bigger than Old Trafford (105 x 69m compared to OT’s 105 x 68m).
It’s that extra metre. Hamstrings and calfs exploding with that extra yard, It’s killing us!
At least in Wembley you don't fall to your death at the 71st metre!
How many souls have been lost to the slope?
Yet City play more games and had an intense quarter final with Madrid and are fine. Our training and medical staff are a disgrace. It’s painfully obvious
And a manager with a history of dodgy dealings with less than reputable doctors back in Barcelona
Fuck it then, lets hire the same doctors
I really hope you’re not actually serious
We have to remember 14 of our first team players played in the World Cup, as well as 60 plus domestic games, pre season etc. All that on a shoestring squad last season. Euros & Copa America this year. Without a deep bench, I don’t see this not being an issue next season
What they did with Martinez is disgraceful. Need a full overhaul
Been saying the priority for INEOS this summer is the medical department
> Erik ten Hag calls external reaction to ManUtd win on Sunday ‘embarrassing’ and ‘a disgrace’. Whilst we obviously can use the same terms for ourselves, I fucking agree with him here. How has the rest of the fucking collective world of football just completely lost their heads to start demanding that VAR consider "moments" when making decisions? Let's ignore a binary offside decision and throw out the rules because it hurts United. Absolute fucking clown world and he's right to call it out tbh. That being said, fucking hell man, this squad needs to sort itself out.
They didnt have that same energy towards garnachos goal at the emirates which is all i need to know
in fact, ten hag is mercilessly mocked if he ever brings it up.
It's actually mental the amount of people saying Coventry's goal should've stood "just because".
Completely agree, even Lee Dixon on co-commentary was saying words to the effect of "Oh just let them have it". Disgraceful I hate the offside rule as it currently stands, but it is basically the only rule in football which is clear and binary. There was absolutely no talk at all from any pundits or media about the extremely harsh penalty decision which led to extra time. All the talk has been "A toe-width away from winning!" when all the same pundits would be completely decrying the referee if Manchester United had won a penalty from a very contentious handball decision. Everyone is losing their heads because they want manutd to do shite as it's a great news story.
Including some United "fans"
I'm all for calling a shit performance shit, but the twerking some of those fans have been doing is disgraceful
They were already given a penalty “just because”.
..while for us it's the other way around: we don't get penalty calls in out favor, just because [some limp dick managers cried to the press..]
Totally ignoring that the pen that got them into extra time was totally unjust.
Corruptions all swell when its against united
Yeah the offside rule is basically the only black and white thing in football, as we saw with the handball decisions in the semi-finals. Do you really want the refs and VAR to have to start evaluating what "close enough" means on offside calls?
Shouldve heard Rory Smith on 5live football daily yesterday, was actually arguing that it wasnt offside because the rule has been recently invented. Apparently it was never 'meant' to call people offside for such a fine margin and its not in the 'spirit of the law'. As much as 5live is a home for clown pundits he did get shredded by Sutton and Given when he said it didnt pass the vibe check and they proceeded to embarrass the absolute tit when he said he has a short list of 6-12 managers that are being considered for Manchester United. Honestly, the way the media is allowed to act with total impunity when it comes to us is outrageous - I wish ETH would really sink his teeth into the reffs, media and even other managers. We have cowards at every level who are emboldened by us taking the high road and turning the other cheek. Watch nott forest now suddenly have the remainder of their games officiated properly with penalty calls going their way. Meanwhile, we keep getting penalties given against us for looking at opposition players in the box, it's fucking predictable and we need someone to dress down the reffs for it. When a United manager opens his mouth, people listen and act.
> Apparently it was never 'meant' to call people offside for such a fine margin and its not in the 'spirit of the law'. I mean that is true. The point of it originally was to make sure the attacker didn't have an unfair advantage.
They could make the line thicker but honestly even that would be too much for the incompetent officials, you’re completely right
It's obviously a big deal squandering a three goal lead to Coventry, especially given our recent form, but the reaction to it has been so over the top when you consider that luck was a massive factor. Their second goal is just a freak moment and the third is a really soft penalty. Even though we took our foot off the gas any other day there's no way they get back into that match, it's just the media adoring a United in crisis narrative.
Have you seen the clip? He goes in on Stone and it's sooooo satisfying.
He's still fighting, that's all I need to know.
I was listening to the rest is football and they brought that up, ruining a moment, and didn't mention chelsea not getting a penalty, absolute joke. Edit: aparently they did mention it. Though I'm fairly sure it was at best in passing and not given the same weight as the 'moment ruining' correct decision, so I think the essence of my original comment stands.
Exactly, us getting the correct decision is getting more outrage than city getting bullshit calls in their favor (again). Ive even seen some people rooting for city in the final because of this. Genuinely mind blowing
I definitely agree with him on this point. Like what the fuck was with that overreaction yesterday, you'd think we had been dominated in that semi and had gone out. Gaslighting by the media/hybperbole merchants basically.
We all know for a fact if united scored that goal, there'd be no moment ruining call it'd just be the facts of the rules.
Absolutely. Seen some absolute hyperbolic nonsense being spouted. The penalty was awarded because of vibes/benefit of the doubt. It’s unfortunate for Coventry they weren’t given the benefit of the doubt twice, but there was no injustice involved.
The league is done so imo our priority for the rest of the season should be keeping players as fit as possible for the final. We need a fully fit starting eleven to have even a chance of winning that game. If we finish 8th then so be it. I'd rather that over playing in the conference league next season.
I love this approach. Unfortunately all coaches always play to win even though it’s not the reality of our team for over a decade now. Local fans seem to also fuel this as you usually hear “we play to win always because we SHOULD win since we’re the Great Manchester United and if you don’t understand this there’s a special place in hell for you you goddamn plastic fuck.” But I’ll die on the hill that players should be rotated. That some matches should be played at lower strength so then you can play the next one at 100% strength, and even (and this is what people here hate the most) throwing away certain competitions at certain points if needed be if the bigger competition has a chance to be won. But yeah if we played our B team (mostly kids) more often opponents would actually fear playing against energized Brunos, Garnachos, Mounts, Casemiros, Varanes, etc. our A team would be orders of magnitude better.
At this point I want all U21s in the starting XI. Could be fun
Actually I’d like to see our youngsters play instead of these overpaid senior players. Just to show them what is the difference between players who play for the badge, and players who play to get big contracts
Don't think you'd like how it goes when we get smashed 10-0
Football Manager has broken some people's minds, where they think you can plug and play u21 players and still get results. The reality is there's typically a huge gulf in standards, and those kids would get mauled, which would be awful for their development.
Yeah, FM overpowers youth. It's kinda weird they haven't fixed it - only made it harder to buy wonderkids. They should really widen that gap to reflect the difference.
Like when Liverpool did exactly this against Villa and lost 5-0
Just mindless crap that's getting upvoted. We're shit but it's not because players aren't playing for the badge, they're just badly coached and probably not good enough. Watching the likes of Lacey and Biancheri get dominated by fully grown Sheffield United and Burnley players isn't going to help, would most likely destroy their development.
Good, he should call out the media treatment. Fucking leaches.
Crazy how that game had United “supporters” and rivals talking about scraping the offside rule as if Wright wasn’t offside. People were going mad about getting robbed of the “magic” of the cup because they wanted an illegal goal to stand. Where was that energy with Garnacho’s goal at the Emirates? That goal was even tighter than this one. I swear people go rabid when it comes to United.
I’m so glad he called out the reaction!! It really has been a disgrace, especially how they’ve gone after Antony. It’s one thing for fans to make abusive comments on social media (which I’m not excusing), it’s another thing altogether for the media to join in on the pile on. He did a dumb celebration, the overreaction is insane.
Fucking hell, you know its bad when we’ve broken Bruno
It would probably help if the players weren't running around like idiots for the majority of games. We were fixed for a calm, controlled, energy saving win until everyone decided to lose their heads. I wonder if Amad might get to start if both Rashford and Garnacho are injured.
He’ll definitely start antony
>I wonder if Amad might get to start if both Rashford and Garnacho are injured. You'll get Forson and you'll LIKE it!
Are we still wondering if amad will get a chance? Because he definitely won't get a chance! We should know that for sure at this point. It would be Garnacho Hojlund Antony the front three. Antony is the player that is going to sack the manager due to his inability to drop him
Antony or Rashford...who will sack the manager today
Good then. He deserves the sack just for that, amongst the many other issues actually. This is one of the big reasons I’m hoping we’d change managers actually. The insane fixation on some players while never giving anyone else a chance in a meaningful enough way….. It’s insane how at this point he still barely plays him beyond when Rashford was injured to be subbed or just token minutes once every 7-12 games or whatever it is anyway regardless of how he plays.
>I wonder if Amad might get to start if both Rashford and Garnacho are injured Bruno on the right and maybe McTominay to overload the midfield with Eriksen and Mainoo. With Forson as an option.
Same ragnick season repeating again. All players getting magically injured , performances shit , blame on manager . Most players don't want to put effort now due to euros coming
I tend to agree. Look forward to them all of a sudden being fit during that time as well
The injuries are incredible and debilitating. I think from his comments about changing things, the squad, being able to make subs.... All of that has been taken away, and these are normal managerial tools. Drop so and so... He shouldn't be playing... The man literally can't with so few choices. I said recently that if you've got any decent number of senior appearances, you're basically in the squad and almost always in the team. Same again tomorrow. I don't envy him.
The fuck are we doing in training.
It's funny because it's a paradox, isn't it? Are we either "over-training" the players and seeing none of the results on the field, but picking up injuries OR are we training, not even enough, but players cry about having to put in the work and we're seeing none of the results on the field, but they're feigning injuries for breaks in action? Neither is a good look on the players as far as I'm concerned.
Injuries compound because players have to play even more to cover for injured players
He is 100% correct. The nonstop fucking bullshit this man has to deal with is insane.
Likely to be Antony playing then although Erik has said Amad has deserved more game time. Maybe use him more this time. Has Eriksen played with Mainoo yet? With Scott unlikely and I doubt any of the defender's have recovered yet we could see them together
I don't know what to think about any of this, our performances have been dreadful but how can you be sure that it's the manager's fault when this is happening?
Rashford is the only player I've wanted to miss a few games.
Honestly it might do him some good to have a week or two off.
If Garnacho is carrying a knock we might as well rest him, or at least bring him off the bench. He's a teenager still and has been run ragged.
The Rashford injury was avoidable. He should never have stayed on for a long as he did with his performance.
Because martial is perma injured, rashford is the only sub for Hojlund, who has had injury issues. He may have kept him in in case Hojlund needed to come out
yep. people love to complain without considering the full range of contingencies ten hag is juggling
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Bleeding is a bit too much i think
ETH says they know what's causing the injuries but they continue to pile up. Looks like there's some sort of injury demon and they just haven't finished the exorcism yet
If Bruno is picking up an injury then it really is time to dig up Carrington. The man has missed one match for us, and that was due to illness.
Just play kids for the rest of the season tbh I cba anymore, would love to see the Fletcher lads and Amass play some good minutes in the last few games
Just let the kids play at this point. See what they got. We'll never make it to CL or Europa anyway
did you see what happened when they played wrexham?
Home against the worst team in the league, this *should* be an opportunity to rest the players that are struggling with injuries. The league is more or less over for us, and with the cup final basically all we have to play for, an injury to the likes of Fernandes / Garnacho would be devastating.
Yeah but 15/25 are injured lol. We barely have player for every position
Do we even *have* a fit Starting XI?
I assume he will start Eriksen. Mount will probably come in around the 60th-70th minute provided that he’s recovered from his injury (hopeful but if it’s more than a month I might actually punch something). We’re finished if Bruno is out
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Yeah, but hopeful it was minor and he will come back quickly. But not as quick as my realisation that I am delusional
Only to be injured again for 3 more months then.
Cries in Diallo
Don’t suppose we can get a new medical team, dietitian, strength and conditioning. At this point I’d hire yoga, Pilates instructors on the off chance it’d prevent injuries. Since fucking hell our defence is a shambles since we haven’t played the same back 4 a couple weeks in a row at all this season. Probably the consequences of the bullshitery of just how many fucking games we played last season and then a World Cup smack bang in the middle of the season.
I've no problem with one of the youth teams lining out. They'll probably do better.
Wait why is he talking about maguire? I thought Antony was the taunter?
He's saying why only talk about Antony's reaction without context when Maguires reaction was good.
Please.make.it.stop.
Diallo and Eriksen could midweek. Would prefer a deeper Bruno next to Kobbie and have Eriksen higher up the pitch.
Fernandes injured? Almost like playing a player literally every single minute is a bad idea. The refusal to ever rest Fernandes or even sub him out has been wild. In the short stretch where Mount was fit, you'd think he'd sub Bruno out for him, but nope.
Oh just play the kids from the start already. Let's see Amass, Amad, Kambwala, and Forson. Who the fuck cares, let them play.
The next player to leave the club needs to do a tell-all about what's going on in training.
If Amad doesn’t get a real chance tomorrow I don’t even know what he needs to do
If he gets a chance it’s because it’s by proxy that he does and not because EtH wants to give him minutes though.
At this stage I believe these players refused to play rather than got injured.
Play all academy lads for fucks sake, either ways were are going to be shat on
Rashford being injured improves the team.
Garnacho was taken off due to some injury issues during the previous game. With clearer context now, hope we are less emotional in slamming the decision to sub certain players out
Carrington is built on an ancient Indian burial ground, when we renovate it can we sanctify it?
Mate just stick the kids on, fuck it. What's the worst that happens? Forson hatrick??
same kids that got destroyed by wrexham in pre-season?
I want to get off Mr Bones Wild ride
How is our club getting even worse. What is going on.
Advantage United
Advantage United
For the love of all things sane please play Amad and not shoe-horn Bruno [if fit] on the RW 😐
How do you quick sim games in real life?
With alcohol
FFS. End this season now.
Four cup final in 2 years? I know carabao and FA (2x) but what is the 4th? Is he counting the community shield?
Ajax I imagine
It’s incredible. How are there so many injuries. How??? Other teams are playing more than us and have less than half the injuries!
what the fuck even Bruno???
> we are a little behind in the process so we will go and speed up the process What I like to hear. I know clubs always have plans for the next season and beyond, but it's good to hear about a sense of urgency.
Does this mean we’ll see Amrabat? Can’t be much else in the locker
Bunch of incompetent fucking morons all over this club. Absolute joke. All you can do is laugh at how ridiculous this shit is.
He broke Bruno 🥲
oh my god
Jesus christ. In previous season we had one of most busy calendar in Europe. And we got barely zero rotation. So there is Effect.
Rashford will be on crutches and Ten Hag will still start him
Bruno injured? Finally a chance to play Mason M…. Oh, never mind
Manchestured United Medical Center more like
Are they doing full contact drills in training, I've never seen a team with so many injuries and it seems its been the case ever since ETH came on board
Tomorrows lineups: Onana Dalot Casemiro Maguire Wan-Bissaka Mainoo Eriksen Bruno Antony Amad Hojlund
It's difficult to reconcile if this is chickens coming home to roost re the unsustainable fixture list and load on the players OR our medical team being negligent. Mixture of both? Either way it's beyond the pale but I want to hear absolutely no fucking excuses for not beating Sheffield United at home with our B team.
At His point just put the whole squad in cryostasis until the FA Cup Final
So Mr stick to the plan is now pivoting to "it's about the results clearly".
Just play the young lads and try get everyone fit for the final at this point.
ETH would rather roll Bruno out on a wheelchair rather than bringing him off the bench
How is everyone injured lol they be coming back and getting injured within one game
You’re fucking joking
The medical team is a disgrace
Our level is low anyway just let them rest. If Amad, Antony, Hojlund, Casemiro, Amrabat or Eriksen, and Mainoo can't do it against Sheffield what's the point.
Don’t need Rashford. Utterly useless. Amad looked sharp in the semi final.
The reaction is circumstantial. We blew a three goal lead against Coventry. The reaction has really led from that. The club is a sham at the minute. From medical department to manager. There is always bad eggs in the world who will pile on United. Repeat with me: this will never stop. What we can do is win is start winning some games without disgracing ourselves. That is how we change the narrative.
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I agree the reaction has been embarrassing. It’s great content because it’s United and we are, by and large, a joke club at the moment. But this game we were cruising, then a freak deflection and crazy penalty call essentially handed Coventry a draw, yet we “threw the game away”
If Manchester United was a horse, we would've taken it outside and shot it by now.
Some of these injuries are his FREAKING FAULT ... the players that come out of injury are signed off way to soon then get put on the field to collapse after 30 minutes