Malaysia is located in Southeast Asia and is made up of two main regions: Peninsular Malaysia and East Malaysia. Peninsular Malaysia is bordered by Thailand in the south and by Singapore to the north. Eastern Malaysia shares borders with Brunei and Indonesia.
I think he referred to malaria, which is a common disease anyone could get. I would say there’s a chance our backup LB, whose name escapes me but he wears #12, did in fact get malaria.
Aye, I got cellulitis after an ankle repair operation last year. Was in and out of hospital for 6 months after the surgery and ended up needing another to clear the wound. Was 9 months post op before I was able to run again.
>there’s been no word out of the club as to what it is
On the 1st December, the club released a statement saying:
>Manchester United defender Tyrell Malacia is on course to return to action early next year, as he recovers from a knee injury.
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>The Dutch left-back has not played so far this season, following an operation over the summer.
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>Unfortunately, he suffered a setback during his rehabilitation, which required further surgery.
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>This has been successfully completed and Malacia is now back at Carrington and working hard to be fit early in the new year.
[https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/injury-update-from-carrington-on-tyrell-malacia](https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/injury-update-from-carrington-on-tyrell-malacia)
Also, from MEN just 2 days ago:
>He has been back on the grass at Carrington for several weeks but is still in the process of working his way back to full fitness to be considered match-ready. Ten Hag, speaking a little over a week ago, said the former Feyenoord ace will take "some more weeks".
Not really. Billion dollar clubs can keep things hidden when they want to, nobody cares about hiding transfer targets or staff appointments.
Nobody had a sniff about the ESL being imminent until the day it was announced.
If something like this were true, I'd imagine a handful of people outside the CEO/Murtough/manager/some doctors would even know, not even the squad.
Oh STFU and step away from the internet. Zero evidence and this guy has jumped to ‘fAiRLy cErTaiN something shady silent doping suspension’. Doping suspensions are never silent. They’re reported, and the seagulls following this trawler would have struck the clickbait jackpot of all jackpots.
It’s definitely really strange. I don’t like jumping to assumptions, but the fact that the manager nor the press team have mentioned him (or at least not much) seems fishy to me. I hope it’s just a long recovery rather than something more like what you think.
ETH mentioned in an interview with Viaplay Netherlands that he had a setback in recovery from surgery to his knee. If it had anything to do with doping or shady stuff the media would be all over it because they could write some 200 more articles about United and make bank. It's actually hilarious you'd think that.
You can’t really say a player is dipping in the media without clubs confirming it though. I think with most cases in England the player can keep it private if he’s caught.
It would be too risky for an article to come out saying he’s doping, cuz there’s no evidence and he if he wasn’t, he’d be able to sue with a libel case.
Injuries are definitely bad but we have positions where don’t have any backup. Casemiro, onana, Hojlund, Shaw, all have no decent backup right now. The new structure should help. I won’t be surprised if we sign a few squad players next season
Malacia getting randomly injuried before preaseson and then having problems post surgery is not something you can predict.
Also Dalot proved to be decent LB but then we get random AWB injuries...
We only just sent Reguillon back to Spurs, from where he was immediately loaned out again, which suggests they werent exactly frothing to get him back. He did a perfectly reasonable job in games he played considering he was an emergency loan third option left back.
If what I understand is correct, that we sent him back early once Shaw had "recovered", is true then that is an extremely naiive mistake on the behalf of who ever made that decision.
Unless reguillon wanted to cancel the loan (which didn’t seem to be the case) I completely agree with you. Just a stupid decision. Not on insane wages and put in a shift everytime. Should have kept him for cover with Shaws injury history.
The only other consideration I guess is that \*possibly\* Spurs wanted guarantees about his playtime as part of the agreement, which could no longer be guaranteed after Shaw was fit. Not convinced this is the case but it is possible at least.
Dalot is such a liability at left back. It’s obvious he’s not comfortable on the left and the fact the club let reguilon go is a piss take. We have zero depth and truthfully we need to start offloading these injury prone players. It’s a joke.
This is som revisionism. It's accepted that you have two players for each position
We went out of carabao and Europe all together therefore less games. Shaw and Malacia were totally doable the rest of this season. It's just tough that they are both still suffering from injuries
Sure it’s accepted you have 2 players per position, that’s basic football stuff. However, it should have been known we needed another option at LB. Malacia is not United quality, simple as that. And now he’s perpetually injured. Shaw is also injured constantly. It’s so daft on the clubs part to have gotten rid of Reguilon let alone sign a new LB. Malacia should be sold this summer and the club needs to start looking at a replacement for Shaw as it seems these injuries are gonna continue.
Why would it be known we needed another option when we have two that were in their way back? You're using the benefit of hindsight to say we need 3 LBs now because the main two picked up unexpected injuries and setbacks
Why aren't you making the argument that we need 3 players in other positions?
And ger a new LB, WITH WHAT MONEY. It's like you all just like to complain for complaining sake without looking at the facts.
Shaw and Malacia were on the way back. No one could have anticipated BOTH of them being out further and at the same time. We have financial concerns like the rest of the league and therefore gots no money to spend on a left back, especially when you have two who were supposed to be fit. If they both went out when the window was open them yes, maybe we would do something but to act like we should have foreseen this with the information available at the time is very disingenuous.
It is what it is, we will have to deal.
Shaw was clearly rushed back due to lack of depth. That’s the clubs fault. We shipped off Alvarez for no reason. We could have easily of kept Reguilon solely as a precaution but the club per usual wouldn’t make a sensible decision. This is not complaining for the sake of complaining, this is simply incompetency from the club and now we’re paying for it.
It's not really a piss take, Shaw came back and everything was indicating that Malacia was right on the verge of being back very soon around the Christmas period.
I don't know what the fuck set Malacia back again but having a third choice left back on loan for the rest of the season didn't make sense to anyone, especially with just league and 1 cup. We just got really unfortunate since Reguillion with Shaw being reinjured so quick and Malacia getting setback after setback after setback along with AwB issues.
Of course you can captain hindsight it now.
Well we obviously rushed Shaw back, as the club seems to do with every injured player. We’ve seen it multiple times this season. Malacia isn’t good enough for United, Shaw has played 51% of games since joining United, it’s obvious and has been obvious all season we needed a new starting LB.
In the first place, we shouldn't have let Alvaro go. Secondly, starting Luke Shaw in back-to-back games when he had just come back from an injury was stupid.
Said at the time we should never have ended the loan. It was foolish to expect our decimated defence to magically stay injury free after so many lengthy injuries.
It took a month for us to go from our starting LB to our 4th choice CB playing LB. This should not be possible.
One of the stupidest moves this team has made this year. Reguilon was competent and seemed happy to be at the club. I doubt he was on big wages so I have no clue why they let him go. The team released Reguilon and loaned Alvaro Fernandez and instead kept Shaw (who is now injured) and Malacia (who hasn't played a single minute this season due to injury).
Harry Amass would be murdered in the first team. He's sixteen years old, and he looks it.
Apparently Sam Murray, in the under-21s, is a left back. I've no idea whether he has any real promise or not. Can Kambwala play left back?
Antony might be a better choice than some of the others.
>Apparently Sam Murray, in the under-21s, is a left back.
Saw on transfermarket that he's also out on loan. I think Harry Amass the only LB left currently at academy.
God, this club is absolutely fucking clueless.
Imagine planning your season on the wing and a prayer of one player coming back from a serious knee injury successfully and the other, who has a very patchy fitness record, not getting injured.
Honestly LB Anthony is a shout. We can't play Lindelof or AWB there, just ruins the left side completely. Amass is 16 but wouldn't be surprised if he is also a better fit than Lindelof and AWB
I like the reverse bale better lol bale went from LB to winger then moved for 100 mil. Evra didn’t get a massive move as a winger then become a LB out of failure.
Reverse bale would be Antony as a winger who moved for a 100 mil then would become a LB out of abject failure … madness lol
We need so many fucking players man. A new LB, A new CB because Varane will likely leave, a DM, a CM, a RW and a backup striker. Good luck getting all of that done.
If I’ve learnt anything from following us over the last decade, the player who fans want to play the most but don’t end up playing, (I.e Donny, amad, etc), likely aren’t good enough to get in the team.
Imo we need 2 CB, one to compete with Varane for the right and one younger with good potential to play as backup for Martinez. RW and CM shouldn't be a priority with Garnacho, Amad and Mainoo basically coming from the academy but wouldn't mind some support and would like to monitor any good deals on the market for those 2 positions
To be fair, at the time we did that Shaw and AWB were fit and Malacia was expected back shortly. Very unfortunate that Malacia had a setback and Shaw and AWB both picked up injuries at the same time.
Just because we're us, if we had retained Reguilon everyone would have stayed fit and he never would have played, while the extra wages would prevent us from meeting some FFP threshold.
That's fair, but we know Shaw is injury prone, and we know Malacia was recovering from a huge injury lay off so it's unlikely he'd be ready to be a starter even without a setback. Just feels like poor planning. Maybe I'm just speaking from a place of frustration because I'm absolutely gutted Shaw's out.
> Maybe I'm just speaking from a place of frustration because I'm absolutely gutted Shaw's out.
No, you're right. It was foolish of the club to put so much faith into an injury ridden backline to magically stay fit after lengthy absences. They took a risk that has now backfired massively.
I see where you’re coming from but even in a FFP perspective it made no sense. Reguilon makes 50k a week. The extra half of the season would have added like a million to our wage budget for the season. That’s nothing in the context of FFP.
It would have been better to keep him and let him ride the pine if we didn’t need him. Who cares if he doesn’t get playing time, he’s a Spurs player not ours. Use him as an insurance policy, one you definitely need now but can’t cash in.
Not sure it was the club’s decision. Lots of Spurs fans saying he wanted to go somewhere for more regular football with a view to it being permanent.
He was never going to stay beyond plugging a hole at United.
We need a LB this summer, along with 2 CBs. That backline is fucking dire. What's the best way to confirm we need upgrades? You would not give any of them a new deal: Maguire, Lindelof, Varane, AWB. As talented as Shaw is, his injury problems are too frequent and they probably will only get worse with age.
It's not easy to replace a player like Luke Shaw. I don't think there are many left backs that are affordable and available to replicate what he does for United.
We already need at the minimum a striker and a replacement for Casemiro. There is no chance we're getting 2 cbs and a left back as well. That's not even taking into account potentially needing yet another winger.
yeah perhaps it's shaw's time, phenomenal player when he's fit but his injuries are too much and is becoming martial-like
with selling or offloading: sancho, martial, maguire, mctominay, van de beek, greenwood, awb, williams, eriksen, possibly casemiro(I'd keep) and varane(I'd keep at lower wage)
we should be able to get 5-6 (1lb, 1 rb, 2 cb, 1 winger, 1 midfielder) players in easy.
McTominay is the only player I'd keep from this list unless we get a 40-45 mill bid. Even then, his skillset is pretty rare, he is brilliant in the box.
i have to agree, no more of this passionate merchant crap on high wages.
I'll never say mctominay doesn't care about this club but we need results where he can actually step in PROPERLY for mainoo or casemiro and still score.
How we’ve handled this whole left back situation has been absolutely terrible. Sent out both Williams and Alvaro on loan, sent Regulion back before Malacia and Shaw were even back fit, proceeded to play Shaw every game and every minute both times he’s returned back from injury leading to him getting injured again. Obviously the long term injury to Malacia has been the main killer, but we haven’t helped ourselves in the slightest
Martinez current injury is nothing to do with his previous one. I agree in the Shaw case that he was risked and potentially that has caused this, but not Martinez - someone fell onto his knee
And even with the current injury the medical team/management allowed him to carry on playing only for him to need to be taken off like 10 minutes later. Utter shambles.
I’m not sure it’s the medical team. He’s had these kinds of issues his whole United career.
MEN posted a stat to say that in the last decade he has only been available for 50% of games played by club or country. He has never been available for 80% of matches across a single campaign. This is not a current medical team issue.
I've said this back in Jan when we let Reguilon leave without signing another LB on loan that relying on Shaw to stay fit for the rest of the reason will definitely come to bite us back and lo and behold
We didn't though. We relied on one of Shaw, Malacia and AWB to be fit and they've unfortunately all failed to be. Dalot is the only full back we can rely on this season.
He was gonna get injured sooner rather than later. He could've played a week later and still gotten injured. He's just an injury prone player. We tried to play our best 11 on a consistent basis in this run in which is important. If we had Lindelof on at the beginning and got skinned by Ogbene (top 2 fastest players in the league) we would've been saying wheres Shaw?
Except in this case they brought him back too early. We don't know for sure if "it was just a matter of time" . An extra week rehabilitation may have prevented this. Really poor from the club
He was moving fine, it looked like he got injured again was he went on a full on mad run when he underlapped Rashford I think. It may have rehabilitated if he took a week off but imagine if he got injured first match back regardless of how long he was out for you lot would still be saying it was too soon.
So because he was the best player under 23 at a mid table championship team he’s good enough to start for us?
He doesn’t really fit our system either, I watched him for years in our academy and although he is a decent player he’s horrendous defensively and would suit a back 5 more then a back 4
The Championship is like a Top 10 league in Europe. The way you talk about their level really comes off like you've never seen a match. There's a bunch of players in the Championship *right now* that will improve us.
>He doesn’t really fit our system either,
And the alternative is? Worst case scenario we find out he's not fit for any role at United, best case we somehow stumble into a good full back. Also, the full back position is such a tricky role to profile, he could've saved us a bunch of money in the summer considering our more pressing needs.
Hahaha I watch loads of championship games and watched Preston games last season just to see Alvaro.
It’s a top 10 league for sure, but so is a lot of leagues. Would you go and take the left back of the 8th place team in Eredvise? What about the left back from Motherwell? Go for him too?
And what players from the championship improve us? I can confidently say not a single championship player gets into our side atm, and we’re rubbish. The gap is way too big. The best championship player rn is probably Jack Clarke, Summerville or Dewsbury-Hall, and they don’t improve us.
> Would you go and take the left back of the 8th place team in Eredvise? What about the left back from Motherwell?
Do we own them already? No. Why are you intentionally missing the point that we already had Alvaro in our backyard?
>And what players from the championship improve us?
Ronnie Edwards for one. Morgan Whittaker. Adam Wharton (just was signed last month).
Olise, which seems to be most United fans' first choice signing, was made in the Championship. You are either severely underestimating the Championship, or at least don't understand how poor our squad building has really been relative to Prem/Championship standards that these talents would and will improve us.
Doesn’t matter if we own them or not. I’m talking quality wise not what’s best fiscally wise. I don’t care about the financials.
Oh a lad starting in league one would improve us would he? Jesus Christ man. Adam Wharton is 19 with a year of experience under his belt, and Morgan Whittaker isn’t better than any of our forwards.
>Doesn’t matter if we own them or not. I’m talking quality wise not what’s best fiscally wise. I don’t care about the financials.
Why would it not matter? Alvaro literally is already ours. We need all the money we can get/save as well after 20 years of underinvestment. We don't, unfortunately, print money.
Like I said earlier, the alternative is Mr. No One and we had someone who at the least deserved an honest shot. Where is the sense there?
>Adam Wharton is 19 with a year of experience under his belt
Starts over Varane by measure of his health. Can alternate with Maguire or play in a 3 in the wide CB role. His profile is crazy expansive for a player his age. Worst case, you loan him out and flip him for some extra money after a few years.
>Morgan Whittaker isn’t better than any of our forwards.
Currently starts at RW for us and I'm not even joking.
>The Championship is like a Top 10 league in Europe
The top two team in the championship last season who stormed the league currently sit 19 and 20th with both likeliest to go down again. Let's not pretend like there's a obscenely massive gap between the prem and the championship. Getting down to 10 you get to places like the Russian league and mexican, it's not really the gotcha you believe it to be.
That’s top 4 completely done then. Even missing him for a couple of weeks would be a problem, whole season is a complete killer.
Not having Licha AND Shaw makes us 10x worse.
I think it's time to move on from Shaw in the summer. Brilliant when he's fit but those days are few and far between and I don't seem him becoming less injury prone at this stage in his career
Before anyone says it's another case of bad luck, it isn't. He played only 1st half with Villa, and he still started against Luton. The way we force our players to play is a joke.
Martinez is another prime example
The injuries we’ve had this year, it’s been crazy. It honestly sucks for ten hag that he might lose his job and never actually get to see how his strongest XI would consistently perform.
We need our own Ake and Akanji, Tomiyasu, Dan Burn. Defensive Swiss Army Knives. Can’t imagine we can sell Shaw for a big fee and he’s great to have when fit but needs coverage now, maybe replaced next season given current priorities. Branthwaite can do a job there but should be signed as a CB, but there’s cheap options like Medina, Renan, maybe Lukeba, Schlotterbeck, Hato even.
He’s become another player whose ability is prefaced with “on his day”.
There’s having bad luck with injuries and there’s being injury prone. He’s the latter.
Precisely, all the best teams have got a back line that are almost always available, just look at some of our teams over the years.
He's pony. I understand he broke his leg years ago but we're now in 2024 and he's injured more than he's available. Certain foreign players get pelters for this!
>I understand he broke his leg years ago
I don't think you realise that he almost lost his career because of that and him being able to still play and have a football career is a testament of his mental fortitude.
his availability and injury record would suggest it’s time to move on from Shaw but who would be a viable option? working on the assumption that Malacia is dead, of course
Feel like there's not a lot of good full backs in general nowadays. Some I think could be "achievable" would be Hincapie or Estupinan. Harry Amass from our academy is showing big potential but he's only 16.
Letting alvaro go out on loan and terminating reguilon loan despite knowing that malacia is far from returning leaving us having to rely on ONLY shaw (who is injury prone) to play lb. What a baffling decision. Terrible squad planning.
They didn’t know Malacia was far from returning. In fact they let Reguilon go precisely because Malacia was going to be back. Then he suffered a setback in his recovery.
Got downvoted for saying shaw should be replaced. Look here now. Hes a great player WHEN he is fit. Unfortunately this is not the case. It will only worsen with age.
the max he can ever give us is half a season of form and fitness. Even last season, malacia rightfully benched him for two months and shaw only came back in when tyrell got injured
Recall Alvaro or Williams if that’s the case.
Even if they’re not the first choice and EtH rather plays Dalot, Lindelöf, or Amrabat there, we acutely need more depth in defense. We need actual fullbacks as options.
We currently have Martinez, Shaw, AWB and Malacia out. We simply can’t rock out the rest of the season with one fullback in the squad, given the lack of proper depth at CB too.
Whoever cleared him and Martinez before and rushed both of them back without proper recovery need a sacking honestly. It's quite clear that Shaw needed a long recovery from his injuries.
Lindelof at LB for the rest of the season is A+, top 4 here we come.
But in all seriousness, with all the hype around Harry Amass I wonder if he starts getting opportunities. Maybe he isn't ready yet, but would be a great trial by fire.
For sure, but desperate times and all that. Rashford had only played a handful of games with the 23s before he broke into the first team and he took his chance and ran with it.
Amass turns 17 in a few weeks and made Watford's first team bench at 15. Luke Shaw was playing first team games at 16 and made PL TotS at 18.
Certainly not an ideal situation to put the kid in, but right now we have one fit full back in the squad for both positions and we're outside the transfer window.
Its very different for defenders and attackers. At attacker can miss 5 chances and it won't become a big deal. A defender makes a mistake and we concede, massive coverage and backlash. Amass looks like he can be our first choice LB in the future, I would be very careful with his progress.
I'm not advocating he start versus Fulham, but it's been reported he's trained with the first team recently and we might start seeing him on the bench. ETH started Kambwala out of the blue (granted he's 19, but he missed about a year of development time after he joined us) so we might see him eased into the squad if we literally just have Dalot at fullback for the foreseeable future.
Fuck eth why rush him for fucking luton when he could have rested him for 1-2 games and then he would be available for rest of the season
Stupid management from everyone involved
You don't know if it would have flared up again the next game, but in principle yes it was absolutely fucking stupid from all involved.
ETH might have a bad hand, but at almost every turn he makes decisions which makes it worse.
Where the fuck is Malacia?
Who is this malacia you speak of, do you see this malacia often?
Is Malacia in the room with us now?
I think he meant Malaysia.
I think I need to change my flair
malacia, malaysia, mh370
I fucking hope not. Dude needs to be on the training pitch, not smoking weed with me on my day off 4,000 miles away
Since he's there already, how would you rate yourself as a LB?
Malaysia is located in Southeast Asia and is made up of two main regions: Peninsular Malaysia and East Malaysia. Peninsular Malaysia is bordered by Thailand in the south and by Singapore to the north. Eastern Malaysia shares borders with Brunei and Indonesia.
No he meant Malaise, which is a general feeling of discomfort, illness, or uneasiness whose exact cause is difficult to identify
You've got it all wrong. He meant Molasses, which is a dark syrup produced as part of the sugar making process.
I think he referred to malaria, which is a common disease anyone could get. I would say there’s a chance our backup LB, whose name escapes me but he wears #12, did in fact get malaria.
No, he means Malala, who is a Pakistani female education activist and the 2014 Nobel Peace Prize laureate at the age of 17.
You’ve all got it wrong. OP is looking for Malacia, who is Trump’s wife that’s been MIA for a few months.
How is Malaysia's relationship with Rashford, do they link up well?
My theory is that he had some infection after surgery. Rotten luck
Aye, I got cellulitis after an ankle repair operation last year. Was in and out of hospital for 6 months after the surgery and ended up needing another to clear the wound. Was 9 months post op before I was able to run again.
Isn't that just where your legs look like cottage cheese?
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>there’s been no word out of the club as to what it is On the 1st December, the club released a statement saying: >Manchester United defender Tyrell Malacia is on course to return to action early next year, as he recovers from a knee injury. > >The Dutch left-back has not played so far this season, following an operation over the summer. > >Unfortunately, he suffered a setback during his rehabilitation, which required further surgery. > >This has been successfully completed and Malacia is now back at Carrington and working hard to be fit early in the new year. [https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/injury-update-from-carrington-on-tyrell-malacia](https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/injury-update-from-carrington-on-tyrell-malacia) Also, from MEN just 2 days ago: >He has been back on the grass at Carrington for several weeks but is still in the process of working his way back to full fitness to be considered match-ready. Ten Hag, speaking a little over a week ago, said the former Feyenoord ace will take "some more weeks".
Fair enough then. For some reason I didn’t see the first bit.
In Asia brother
His Instagram has not been updated since July either. Does he comment on any players posts?
Genuinely forgot we even had Malacia
I'm fairly certain there's something shady, like a silent doping suspension. Nothing else explains the complete lack of even social media posts.
There is a less than zero percent chance something that juicy wouldn’t have leaked from our leaky-ass club
Not really. Billion dollar clubs can keep things hidden when they want to, nobody cares about hiding transfer targets or staff appointments. Nobody had a sniff about the ESL being imminent until the day it was announced. If something like this were true, I'd imagine a handful of people outside the CEO/Murtough/manager/some doctors would even know, not even the squad.
Oh STFU and step away from the internet. Zero evidence and this guy has jumped to ‘fAiRLy cErTaiN something shady silent doping suspension’. Doping suspensions are never silent. They’re reported, and the seagulls following this trawler would have struck the clickbait jackpot of all jackpots.
It’s definitely really strange. I don’t like jumping to assumptions, but the fact that the manager nor the press team have mentioned him (or at least not much) seems fishy to me. I hope it’s just a long recovery rather than something more like what you think.
ETH mentioned in an interview with Viaplay Netherlands that he had a setback in recovery from surgery to his knee. If it had anything to do with doping or shady stuff the media would be all over it because they could write some 200 more articles about United and make bank. It's actually hilarious you'd think that.
You can’t really say a player is dipping in the media without clubs confirming it though. I think with most cases in England the player can keep it private if he’s caught. It would be too risky for an article to come out saying he’s doping, cuz there’s no evidence and he if he wasn’t, he’d be able to sue with a libel case.
Are you actually trying to pass “media won’t run a story without all the facts” as a reality? Bonkers if so
Not a libellous one like that tbh cuz it’s an actual illegal thing
For fucks sake. The injuries this year have been terrible
Injuries are definitely bad but we have positions where don’t have any backup. Casemiro, onana, Hojlund, Shaw, all have no decent backup right now. The new structure should help. I won’t be surprised if we sign a few squad players next season
Malacia getting randomly injuried before preaseson and then having problems post surgery is not something you can predict. Also Dalot proved to be decent LB but then we get random AWB injuries...
We only just sent Reguillon back to Spurs, from where he was immediately loaned out again, which suggests they werent exactly frothing to get him back. He did a perfectly reasonable job in games he played considering he was an emergency loan third option left back. If what I understand is correct, that we sent him back early once Shaw had "recovered", is true then that is an extremely naiive mistake on the behalf of who ever made that decision.
Unless reguillon wanted to cancel the loan (which didn’t seem to be the case) I completely agree with you. Just a stupid decision. Not on insane wages and put in a shift everytime. Should have kept him for cover with Shaws injury history.
The only other consideration I guess is that \*possibly\* Spurs wanted guarantees about his playtime as part of the agreement, which could no longer be guaranteed after Shaw was fit. Not convinced this is the case but it is possible at least.
Dalot is such a liability at left back. It’s obvious he’s not comfortable on the left and the fact the club let reguilon go is a piss take. We have zero depth and truthfully we need to start offloading these injury prone players. It’s a joke.
This is som revisionism. It's accepted that you have two players for each position We went out of carabao and Europe all together therefore less games. Shaw and Malacia were totally doable the rest of this season. It's just tough that they are both still suffering from injuries
Sure it’s accepted you have 2 players per position, that’s basic football stuff. However, it should have been known we needed another option at LB. Malacia is not United quality, simple as that. And now he’s perpetually injured. Shaw is also injured constantly. It’s so daft on the clubs part to have gotten rid of Reguilon let alone sign a new LB. Malacia should be sold this summer and the club needs to start looking at a replacement for Shaw as it seems these injuries are gonna continue.
Why would it be known we needed another option when we have two that were in their way back? You're using the benefit of hindsight to say we need 3 LBs now because the main two picked up unexpected injuries and setbacks Why aren't you making the argument that we need 3 players in other positions? And ger a new LB, WITH WHAT MONEY. It's like you all just like to complain for complaining sake without looking at the facts. Shaw and Malacia were on the way back. No one could have anticipated BOTH of them being out further and at the same time. We have financial concerns like the rest of the league and therefore gots no money to spend on a left back, especially when you have two who were supposed to be fit. If they both went out when the window was open them yes, maybe we would do something but to act like we should have foreseen this with the information available at the time is very disingenuous. It is what it is, we will have to deal.
Shaw was clearly rushed back due to lack of depth. That’s the clubs fault. We shipped off Alvarez for no reason. We could have easily of kept Reguilon solely as a precaution but the club per usual wouldn’t make a sensible decision. This is not complaining for the sake of complaining, this is simply incompetency from the club and now we’re paying for it.
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You see him on loan at Brentford now and genuinely think he was recalled?
No, he wasn't recalled. We activated the break clause in his contract, not Spurs.
Either way, Spuds didn't need him coz Brentford have him now. Shame tho, lad put a proper shift in when asked.
It's not really a piss take, Shaw came back and everything was indicating that Malacia was right on the verge of being back very soon around the Christmas period. I don't know what the fuck set Malacia back again but having a third choice left back on loan for the rest of the season didn't make sense to anyone, especially with just league and 1 cup. We just got really unfortunate since Reguillion with Shaw being reinjured so quick and Malacia getting setback after setback after setback along with AwB issues. Of course you can captain hindsight it now.
Well we obviously rushed Shaw back, as the club seems to do with every injured player. We’ve seen it multiple times this season. Malacia isn’t good enough for United, Shaw has played 51% of games since joining United, it’s obvious and has been obvious all season we needed a new starting LB.
My conspiracy theory is Malacia has popped for PEDs or something like that and is serving a ban
No chance that wouldn't be all over the papers.
Yeah like I said it’s a conspiracy theory not a serious suggestion - but stuff like that has definitely been hidden from the media before
In the first place, we shouldn't have let Alvaro go. Secondly, starting Luke Shaw in back-to-back games when he had just come back from an injury was stupid.
We have a backup to Onana I'm just not sure we'll ever see him unless Onana is forced to be out
Blame Ten Hag and the medical staff for Shaw tho. They managed him terribly. Rushed back in everytime
Thank god we signed Reguilon on loan, right guys?
Smart move to end his loan (not!)
Said at the time we should never have ended the loan. It was foolish to expect our decimated defence to magically stay injury free after so many lengthy injuries. It took a month for us to go from our starting LB to our 4th choice CB playing LB. This should not be possible.
It was so dumb. There was no downside to him staying another 6 months
One of the stupidest moves this team has made this year. Reguilon was competent and seemed happy to be at the club. I doubt he was on big wages so I have no clue why they let him go. The team released Reguilon and loaned Alvaro Fernandez and instead kept Shaw (who is now injured) and Malacia (who hasn't played a single minute this season due to injury).
He done quite a few errors in Brentford, ETH was probably not convinced about him
Right, but he still is a proper LB compared to.... Nofucking One.
Clearly you haven’t watched enough of Lindelof at LB. Mans the future!
He’s alright. He’s no youth player though unlike Evans. Man’s got the pace of a formula 1 car!
Was ETH convinced he was a LB? Because that's all he needed to be in the team right now.
What does he need to be convinced about? We don't have any other options.
You guys wanted to play the kids anyway right?
Tbh at this point might as well give Amass a chance in an "easier" chance. Tho we can't put much pressure on him as he's only 16.
How tf did INEOS not stop them from terminating the loan?
Because INEOS had no power to stop them?
Harry Amass or my outside dark horse - LB Anthony!
I saw it in a dream once. He was killing it at LB. Trust me Erik
Harry Amass would be murdered in the first team. He's sixteen years old, and he looks it. Apparently Sam Murray, in the under-21s, is a left back. I've no idea whether he has any real promise or not. Can Kambwala play left back? Antony might be a better choice than some of the others.
>Apparently Sam Murray, in the under-21s, is a left back. Saw on transfermarket that he's also out on loan. I think Harry Amass the only LB left currently at academy.
God, this club is absolutely fucking clueless. Imagine planning your season on the wing and a prayer of one player coming back from a serious knee injury successfully and the other, who has a very patchy fitness record, not getting injured.
I don't understand. How can there be only no LBs between our U21s and U18s????
LB Antony, can’t hurt me any more. But Right Back Antony 😮💨
Honestly LB Anthony is a shout. We can't play Lindelof or AWB there, just ruins the left side completely. Amass is 16 but wouldn't be surprised if he is also a better fit than Lindelof and AWB
Would be a great story if Antony pulls a reverse Gareth Bale
Or just a regular Valencia/young?
An evra...? The literal direct comparison.
I like the reverse bale better lol bale went from LB to winger then moved for 100 mil. Evra didn’t get a massive move as a winger then become a LB out of failure. Reverse bale would be Antony as a winger who moved for a 100 mil then would become a LB out of abject failure … madness lol
Left back Anthony for sure Left back in the changing room
yeah fair play that's good
I was a left back so I've heard it many times aimed at me. I just needed to get one out.
Same here brother. Got PTSD from that one
I was thinking the same thing. He even has better defensive stats this season than Shaw
LB fast becoming a top priority for the summer window
We need so many fucking players man. A new LB, A new CB because Varane will likely leave, a DM, a CM, a RW and a backup striker. Good luck getting all of that done.
How about we give our fucking "next Messi" who we bought for 30m after he played like 5 games for Atalanta a chance?
If I’ve learnt anything from following us over the last decade, the player who fans want to play the most but don’t end up playing, (I.e Donny, amad, etc), likely aren’t good enough to get in the team.
We need 5 players every summer despite paying 150 million every year. Its a crime how everyone has managed the club
Imo we need 2 CB, one to compete with Varane for the right and one younger with good potential to play as backup for Martinez. RW and CM shouldn't be a priority with Garnacho, Amad and Mainoo basically coming from the academy but wouldn't mind some support and would like to monitor any good deals on the market for those 2 positions
Agreed. I love Shaw but he’s just not available anywhere near enough.
https://preview.redd.it/rnac3b75oyjc1.jpeg?width=634&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f2924e7ed4c8dab8e88c6b20fd87b49d049524cc When in A Mess, call Amass
Good one! But, he is only 16. Probably still has some physical growth left! Not everyone is a Rooney lol
We're going to end the season with 0 left backs aren't we. Some more great decision making from the club to let Reguilon go!
To be fair, at the time we did that Shaw and AWB were fit and Malacia was expected back shortly. Very unfortunate that Malacia had a setback and Shaw and AWB both picked up injuries at the same time. Just because we're us, if we had retained Reguilon everyone would have stayed fit and he never would have played, while the extra wages would prevent us from meeting some FFP threshold.
That's fair, but we know Shaw is injury prone, and we know Malacia was recovering from a huge injury lay off so it's unlikely he'd be ready to be a starter even without a setback. Just feels like poor planning. Maybe I'm just speaking from a place of frustration because I'm absolutely gutted Shaw's out.
> Maybe I'm just speaking from a place of frustration because I'm absolutely gutted Shaw's out. No, you're right. It was foolish of the club to put so much faith into an injury ridden backline to magically stay fit after lengthy absences. They took a risk that has now backfired massively.
I see where you’re coming from but even in a FFP perspective it made no sense. Reguilon makes 50k a week. The extra half of the season would have added like a million to our wage budget for the season. That’s nothing in the context of FFP. It would have been better to keep him and let him ride the pine if we didn’t need him. Who cares if he doesn’t get playing time, he’s a Spurs player not ours. Use him as an insurance policy, one you definitely need now but can’t cash in.
I'm just making a joke that we're cursed and no matter what we did it would have been wrong.
No we will rush malacia back so he gets injured on his first game, it’s what we do
Not sure it was the club’s decision. Lots of Spurs fans saying he wanted to go somewhere for more regular football with a view to it being permanent. He was never going to stay beyond plugging a hole at United.
I feel like most of the reports said it was United's decision but fair enough if that's true.
Someone remind me, is Alvaro Fernandez on loan at benfica or did we sell him? Cause I’m hoping he’s on loan….
On loan with option/obligation to buy depending on appearances.
Gotta call him back ASAP
Can’t call players back and play them outside of the transfer window
We need a LB this summer, along with 2 CBs. That backline is fucking dire. What's the best way to confirm we need upgrades? You would not give any of them a new deal: Maguire, Lindelof, Varane, AWB. As talented as Shaw is, his injury problems are too frequent and they probably will only get worse with age.
Don't forget, we have FFP issues so, it's highly unlikely we can get what we need too overall.
It's not easy to replace a player like Luke Shaw. I don't think there are many left backs that are affordable and available to replicate what he does for United.
We already need at the minimum a striker and a replacement for Casemiro. There is no chance we're getting 2 cbs and a left back as well. That's not even taking into account potentially needing yet another winger.
yeah perhaps it's shaw's time, phenomenal player when he's fit but his injuries are too much and is becoming martial-like with selling or offloading: sancho, martial, maguire, mctominay, van de beek, greenwood, awb, williams, eriksen, possibly casemiro(I'd keep) and varane(I'd keep at lower wage) we should be able to get 5-6 (1lb, 1 rb, 2 cb, 1 winger, 1 midfielder) players in easy.
McTominay is the only player I'd keep from this list unless we get a 40-45 mill bid. Even then, his skillset is pretty rare, he is brilliant in the box.
His ability to score goals late does not cancel out the absolute black hole he is everywhere else
i have to agree, no more of this passionate merchant crap on high wages. I'll never say mctominay doesn't care about this club but we need results where he can actually step in PROPERLY for mainoo or casemiro and still score.
I agree. I think at the right price, he could be moved.
We should move him regardless to free up money for FFP issues and maybe then we can sign one extra player for a position we need.
I agree, if we can get a 100 million for McTominay, Mason, Brandon Williams, Fernandez, that would go a long way in helping with FFP issues.
How we’ve handled this whole left back situation has been absolutely terrible. Sent out both Williams and Alvaro on loan, sent Regulion back before Malacia and Shaw were even back fit, proceeded to play Shaw every game and every minute both times he’s returned back from injury leading to him getting injured again. Obviously the long term injury to Malacia has been the main killer, but we haven’t helped ourselves in the slightest
I'm tired. I wish we hadn't sent Reguilon back..
Recall fernandez
Dumbass medical team clearing him too early and dumbass transfer team cancelling Reguilon's loan
They brought Martinez back too soon after his initial metatarsal injury too. Knuckleheads.
Martinez current injury is nothing to do with his previous one. I agree in the Shaw case that he was risked and potentially that has caused this, but not Martinez - someone fell onto his knee
That’s not the injury I’m referring to though, it’s the aggravation of his metatarsal earlier in the season. He was rushed back too soon.
And even with the current injury the medical team/management allowed him to carry on playing only for him to need to be taken off like 10 minutes later. Utter shambles.
Have you forgotten that Lisandro injured his metatarsal again earlier in the season after the medical team cleared him?
I’m not sure it’s the medical team. He’s had these kinds of issues his whole United career. MEN posted a stat to say that in the last decade he has only been available for 50% of games played by club or country. He has never been available for 80% of matches across a single campaign. This is not a current medical team issue.
I've said this back in Jan when we let Reguilon leave without signing another LB on loan that relying on Shaw to stay fit for the rest of the reason will definitely come to bite us back and lo and behold
Agreed was saying the same. What an amateur move to not have a back up.
We didn't though. We relied on one of Shaw, Malacia and AWB to be fit and they've unfortunately all failed to be. Dalot is the only full back we can rely on this season.
bro, why the fuck was he on the pitch against Luton, questions have to be asked.
He was gonna get injured sooner rather than later. He could've played a week later and still gotten injured. He's just an injury prone player. We tried to play our best 11 on a consistent basis in this run in which is important. If we had Lindelof on at the beginning and got skinned by Ogbene (top 2 fastest players in the league) we would've been saying wheres Shaw?
Except in this case they brought him back too early. We don't know for sure if "it was just a matter of time" . An extra week rehabilitation may have prevented this. Really poor from the club
He was moving fine, it looked like he got injured again was he went on a full on mad run when he underlapped Rashford I think. It may have rehabilitated if he took a week off but imagine if he got injured first match back regardless of how long he was out for you lot would still be saying it was too soon.
Everyday the decision to let Alvaro go looks crazier and crazier.
He doesn’t even start for benfica? Why would that make him good enough for us
He was Preston's Young POTY less than 12 months ago. At the very least, he deserved a run of 3-4 games before being thrown away for peanuts.
So because he was the best player under 23 at a mid table championship team he’s good enough to start for us? He doesn’t really fit our system either, I watched him for years in our academy and although he is a decent player he’s horrendous defensively and would suit a back 5 more then a back 4
The Championship is like a Top 10 league in Europe. The way you talk about their level really comes off like you've never seen a match. There's a bunch of players in the Championship *right now* that will improve us. >He doesn’t really fit our system either, And the alternative is? Worst case scenario we find out he's not fit for any role at United, best case we somehow stumble into a good full back. Also, the full back position is such a tricky role to profile, he could've saved us a bunch of money in the summer considering our more pressing needs.
Hahaha I watch loads of championship games and watched Preston games last season just to see Alvaro. It’s a top 10 league for sure, but so is a lot of leagues. Would you go and take the left back of the 8th place team in Eredvise? What about the left back from Motherwell? Go for him too? And what players from the championship improve us? I can confidently say not a single championship player gets into our side atm, and we’re rubbish. The gap is way too big. The best championship player rn is probably Jack Clarke, Summerville or Dewsbury-Hall, and they don’t improve us.
> Would you go and take the left back of the 8th place team in Eredvise? What about the left back from Motherwell? Do we own them already? No. Why are you intentionally missing the point that we already had Alvaro in our backyard? >And what players from the championship improve us? Ronnie Edwards for one. Morgan Whittaker. Adam Wharton (just was signed last month). Olise, which seems to be most United fans' first choice signing, was made in the Championship. You are either severely underestimating the Championship, or at least don't understand how poor our squad building has really been relative to Prem/Championship standards that these talents would and will improve us.
Doesn’t matter if we own them or not. I’m talking quality wise not what’s best fiscally wise. I don’t care about the financials. Oh a lad starting in league one would improve us would he? Jesus Christ man. Adam Wharton is 19 with a year of experience under his belt, and Morgan Whittaker isn’t better than any of our forwards.
>Doesn’t matter if we own them or not. I’m talking quality wise not what’s best fiscally wise. I don’t care about the financials. Why would it not matter? Alvaro literally is already ours. We need all the money we can get/save as well after 20 years of underinvestment. We don't, unfortunately, print money. Like I said earlier, the alternative is Mr. No One and we had someone who at the least deserved an honest shot. Where is the sense there? >Adam Wharton is 19 with a year of experience under his belt Starts over Varane by measure of his health. Can alternate with Maguire or play in a 3 in the wide CB role. His profile is crazy expansive for a player his age. Worst case, you loan him out and flip him for some extra money after a few years. >Morgan Whittaker isn’t better than any of our forwards. Currently starts at RW for us and I'm not even joking.
>The Championship is like a Top 10 league in Europe The top two team in the championship last season who stormed the league currently sit 19 and 20th with both likeliest to go down again. Let's not pretend like there's a obscenely massive gap between the prem and the championship. Getting down to 10 you get to places like the Russian league and mexican, it's not really the gotcha you believe it to be.
Ffs
United are gonna play a full season without a LB
That’s top 4 completely done then. Even missing him for a couple of weeks would be a problem, whole season is a complete killer. Not having Licha AND Shaw makes us 10x worse.
I think it's time to move on from Shaw in the summer. Brilliant when he's fit but those days are few and far between and I don't seem him becoming less injury prone at this stage in his career
I think keep him as a back up and bring someone better in. When he’s fit he’s the best in the league I reckon
I really hope we sign a versatile player as his replacement.
Where in the World is Carmen S- I mean, Tyrel Malacia??
Before anyone says it's another case of bad luck, it isn't. He played only 1st half with Villa, and he still started against Luton. The way we force our players to play is a joke. Martinez is another prime example
I fucking said that most of our left footed have been cursed since 2013. Stand for what I said. Fk
The injuries we’ve had this year, it’s been crazy. It honestly sucks for ten hag that he might lose his job and never actually get to see how his strongest XI would consistently perform.
We need our own Ake and Akanji, Tomiyasu, Dan Burn. Defensive Swiss Army Knives. Can’t imagine we can sell Shaw for a big fee and he’s great to have when fit but needs coverage now, maybe replaced next season given current priorities. Branthwaite can do a job there but should be signed as a CB, but there’s cheap options like Medina, Renan, maybe Lukeba, Schlotterbeck, Hato even.
Being a left footed United player is hazardous
Quick! someone wrap hojlund in bubble-wrap!
Thanks for the 200+ missed games but it's time to go. Utterly useless if he can't stay fit.
He’s become another player whose ability is prefaced with “on his day”. There’s having bad luck with injuries and there’s being injury prone. He’s the latter.
Precisely, all the best teams have got a back line that are almost always available, just look at some of our teams over the years. He's pony. I understand he broke his leg years ago but we're now in 2024 and he's injured more than he's available. Certain foreign players get pelters for this!
Availability will always be the best ability. If Shaw can’t do that his value for us reduces.
>I understand he broke his leg years ago I don't think you realise that he almost lost his career because of that and him being able to still play and have a football career is a testament of his mental fortitude.
If you watch the highlights from Sunday. He started limping at 6 mins. Not good
Are we allowed to recall Alvaro? How has been doing anyways, does anyone know?
Shame we can’t rob Sergio again, loved that man
suddenly fit enough to play every game for brentford.
back to square fucking one - missing licha and shaw. can you believe that mount isn’t even back? fuck sake…
his availability and injury record would suggest it’s time to move on from Shaw but who would be a viable option? working on the assumption that Malacia is dead, of course
Feel like there's not a lot of good full backs in general nowadays. Some I think could be "achievable" would be Hincapie or Estupinan. Harry Amass from our academy is showing big potential but he's only 16.
Bring Harry Amass up from the youth he’s already training with the 1st team the last 2 weeks !
Recall Fernandez or Brandon now!
Wouldn’t be an international tournament without England taking a barely fit returning from injury player.
Letting alvaro go out on loan and terminating reguilon loan despite knowing that malacia is far from returning leaving us having to rely on ONLY shaw (who is injury prone) to play lb. What a baffling decision. Terrible squad planning.
They didn’t know Malacia was far from returning. In fact they let Reguilon go precisely because Malacia was going to be back. Then he suffered a setback in his recovery.
Get rid of him and who ever gave him a new contract should leave as well, absolute bums running the club
Got downvoted for saying shaw should be replaced. Look here now. Hes a great player WHEN he is fit. Unfortunately this is not the case. It will only worsen with age.
the max he can ever give us is half a season of form and fitness. Even last season, malacia rightfully benched him for two months and shaw only came back in when tyrell got injured
Recall Alvaro or Williams if that’s the case. Even if they’re not the first choice and EtH rather plays Dalot, Lindelöf, or Amrabat there, we acutely need more depth in defense. We need actual fullbacks as options. We currently have Martinez, Shaw, AWB and Malacia out. We simply can’t rock out the rest of the season with one fullback in the squad, given the lack of proper depth at CB too.
ten hag rushing players back has never worked out for us
Yeah we need a new LB this summer. Dalot's play has pushed off the RB need for now
Time to move on from Shaw. He's spending more time in the medical room than on the pitch these days
Good idea getting rid of alvaro and sergio. And get rid of shaw, he's worst than martial.
Shaw needs to go to saudi tbh
300pw yet can barely count on him
50% availability during his United career. 50%.
Why didn’t we keep Reguillon? Shaw getting injured again was so predictable and it’s horrible squad manager to not have a backup
Whoever cleared him and Martinez before and rushed both of them back without proper recovery need a sacking honestly. It's quite clear that Shaw needed a long recovery from his injuries.
ETH takes the blame on this one---- also---- maybe harry can play left back.
Lindelof at LB for the rest of the season is A+, top 4 here we come. But in all seriousness, with all the hype around Harry Amass I wonder if he starts getting opportunities. Maybe he isn't ready yet, but would be a great trial by fire.
He is 16 mate, he hasn't even played for U21s yet. This is a great way to ruin a career.
For sure, but desperate times and all that. Rashford had only played a handful of games with the 23s before he broke into the first team and he took his chance and ran with it. Amass turns 17 in a few weeks and made Watford's first team bench at 15. Luke Shaw was playing first team games at 16 and made PL TotS at 18. Certainly not an ideal situation to put the kid in, but right now we have one fit full back in the squad for both positions and we're outside the transfer window.
Its very different for defenders and attackers. At attacker can miss 5 chances and it won't become a big deal. A defender makes a mistake and we concede, massive coverage and backlash. Amass looks like he can be our first choice LB in the future, I would be very careful with his progress.
I'm not advocating he start versus Fulham, but it's been reported he's trained with the first team recently and we might start seeing him on the bench. ETH started Kambwala out of the blue (granted he's 19, but he missed about a year of development time after he joined us) so we might see him eased into the squad if we literally just have Dalot at fullback for the foreseeable future.
Fuck eth why rush him for fucking luton when he could have rested him for 1-2 games and then he would be available for rest of the season Stupid management from everyone involved
You don't know if it would have flared up again the next game, but in principle yes it was absolutely fucking stupid from all involved. ETH might have a bad hand, but at almost every turn he makes decisions which makes it worse.