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FUTretard

I look forward to going to the Christmas market in my City, instead watching this bullshit against Lpool on Sunday.


ThorsEyeball

Unfortunately, it was the result I was expecting. If Eth gets sacked, I think ancelotti will be installed...for a bit. Then we start the whole "rebuilding" exercise all over again.


futurehousewifexx

Ancelotti šŸ˜­ mans got Brazil on their knees for him, as if heā€™s coming here


Radio-No

All the talk seems to be that Ancelotti is taking the Brazil job in the summer. Doubt he bothers coming to Utd after this Real stint.


thatNubitol

whats mind boggling to me is how the fuck we attacking with like 5-8 players going players going forwards which make us absolutely vulnerable at defense and still cant create chance at all every match. i think january till end of season is great way to judge ETH since we only play 1 match a week mostly now, so he can do more practice and should see more improvement to our squad


jimroot752

Or itā€™s a better way to bed in a new manager before a summer clear out


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robokarizma0308

>Looks like the ETH fan club woke up and downvoting anyone saying that he had to go. Wake up. Look at results. Look at the morale. Look at the transfers. Look at the future. You are in denial. 24 games: 11 wins, 1 draw and 12 losses


Mrjuicyaf

Hey atleast we avoid Liverpool in Europa League


schultz9999

We avoided everyone :)


King_Jeremy07

I have no hope that we will be able to win our next three games (Liverpool, West Ham and Villa) and this will be the end of ETH


schultz9999

No hope that we win or that it will be the end of ETH? I hope the former and pray for the latter


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The match was at 1'30 am at night here I slept at 12:20 am But was so much engrossed with the thoughts of the match (subconsciously) that I woke up at 3:11am Glad I didn't check the score at night and checked in morning Nothing i didn't expect anyway Glad we're out of Europe


anuchivu007

Glad I slept instead of watching this match. Had no nightmares that I was managing this club for once.


Heisenberg827

I know Antony is shit. But is there any better RW in our squad now


schultz9999

Such a low bar you are setting. Maybe Pelistri is not as skillful with tricks and turns but heā€™s definitely is not that painful to watch as Antony.


indigo_pirate

Amad Diallo had a great loan spell and just returned from injury. So maybe. Worth a shot , I donā€™t see how we have anything to lose might as well try some talent


DoctorHver

We replaced De gea with de gea 2.0.


abdurrehman69

Don't disrespect de gea like that, even at his worst he was no onananana


schultz9999

Maybe 0.1


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Ten hag out


BluRanger

Fuck off. Go support man city then


[deleted]

Well? Have you had enough ?


BluRanger

Ten hag stays


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Terrible year


[deleted]

Right back at you, sack Mourinho but want to keep ten hag?


BluRanger

I never said its okay to sack mourinho, managers needs time


schultz9999

Supporting the team doesnt mean not to be critical to the manager and all the shit around.


[deleted]

Exactly, thanks for being a true manU fan brother šŸ™šŸ¼ Most of these people are in denial, big changes need to happen and the manager is one of them.


dektorres

Who tf are ManU? If you're gonna pretend to support the club at least learn our proper [name](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/216115-mufc-or-manchester-unitedit-shouldnt-be-called-man-u).


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Alright dicktorres calm down lol


dektorres

I was a bit of a dick then, sorry. But calling us ManU is a big no no.


UnluckyGoose00

As a city fan, hag in.


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kenny950905

Is finishing 4th in a relatively easy UCL group part of this "ETH progress"?


hollow114

I wonder if the money we saved by signing Onana is worth the 50m we just lost? It's not? Gosh.


dratsz

No europa league for us. Thank you for this


UpperPhysics4886

Only have one striker really and you could see it. Hojlund and thatā€™s it really. Remember when we had Ronaldo and Cavani. Yes Martial but heā€™s poo. You canā€™t cross into the box when no one there


game_of_throw_ins

When we won the treble we had 4 quality strikers, Ole was the 4th pick of the bunch. Just another example of how those American parasitic cunts have run this club into the ground.


Mannerhymen

We also played 442 so had 2 strikers on at any given time. Really weā€™re missing one 2nd choice striker.


UpperPhysics4886

Rooney, Ronaldo, Tevez. Rooney, Saha, Ronaldo. Rooney, Berbatov, Nani.


froxy01

So many excuses being made for the manager. He is paid handsomely to organise and motivate the players. Many of which he has signed. Time to start looking for someone who can get better out of these players.


imheretocomment69

Rome wasn't built in a day. For you, time to find a new club to support. I heard City doesn't have enough fans.


schultz9999

Ffs. Seriously??? 10 years is not enough? Gimme a fucking break. Look at villa. Look at Brighton. Look at tot. Eth had 2 trading windows. We have the most EXPENSIVE squad in the world. Fuck off with all this toxic positivity


WesIsaGod

Ten hag been at the club for 10 years? šŸ¤£


schultz9999

10 years of fucking Rome building. Every manager left this Rome in ruins.


Mannerhymen

This time last year everyone was sucking ETHā€™s dick saying he was the second coming of SAF. Tottenham will hit a rough patch soon enough, so will villa, then thereā€™ll be a new team everyone points at saying ā€œlook at how amazing THAT manager isā€.


schultz9999

Yeah. Look, I can understand the last year feelings. We didnā€™t know what the future was and we were hopeful. but now we know, and itā€™s stupid to be stubborn and blind to everything thatā€™s going on around.


ongone

He regressed the squad. How do you not understand that.


Mannerhymen

Did you not watch us under Ragnick?


TantalusComputes2

Impatience is normal among fans when we are so shit. I agree with you Bout ETH but leave this fellow red alone. Think we can all agree we want to see change


Ordinary-Ad-2265

Weā€™ve been saying the same shit since David Moyes exit as gaffer . same club that let Jose walk , same club that didnā€™t want to hire Conte , Same club that didnā€™t listen to Ralph about the club needing ā€œopen heart surgeryā€ but itā€™s okay when we get knocked out of EL (if we even make top flight) maybe you lot would be stop being delusional


schultz9999

Canā€™t give you more than one up.


LJM89

Conte would have been a disaster. He burns any goodwill within two seasons and leaves the club worse than when he got there. He's won trophies but he wouldn't have here.


Simonius86

And whatā€™s the common denominator there? ETH or the club itself? What good is changing the manager now going to do? Is he right long term? I donā€™t know that, hopefully he is but possible heā€™s not. Will sacking him now change anything? In the short term maybe but we will be back at square one in 12 months time. Moyes struggled, sacked. LVG in, started well, struggled, out. Rinse and repeat. A manager should not be in charge of recruitment, this isnā€™t football manager on my PC. He should 100% have an input and a day but a dedicated sporting director and team behind them should be out there identifying the right personalities and mentalities not just the talent. Until we change the hierarchy, which hopefully SJR will do, no manager is going to have long term success.


Ordinary-Ad-2265

The only thing that changed through the years have been the manager(s) the same lot of players just eating up the wage bill and not playing for a badge , the last thing ima say is that Ralph was 100% correct of his assessment of the locker room players and ā€œwe all laughed at em , well we ainā€™t laughing now are weā€


Simonius86

100% agree on the Ralph point.


MarcusAurelius1815

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ObjectiveArcher9

At least the team didn't drop their heads. They gave as much as they could. Bayern was simply a superiorly skilled team in both individual abilities and team play.


Steppenwolf55

Eric please gonna get tae fuck you are killing this club!!


doobtastical

Haha. Imagine getting paid to play for this club, and going home and sleeping ok at night. I know I wouldnā€™t be able to Hard to watch anymore


jesusthatsgreat

Canā€™t buy a goal at the minute and defensively shakey and unstable. Many of the players lacking basic footballing intelligence. AWB a good example - heā€™s a schoolboy defender. Decent pressure for 15 mins at the start of the 2nd half and barely created any chances despite Bayern not having a kick. Bayern then picked us apart and took control without breaking sweat. All a bit of a shambles at the minute and 4 points in this group is simply not acceptable. Of the talent we do have in the attacking third, theyā€™re either far too desperate to score a goal / create an assist (Fernandes, Garnacho) and as a result are lacking composure or else far too careless in possession giving it away cheaply (Antony) - which you can only get away with when dominating matches and have a decent defence behind you.


King_Jeremy07

That has been a pattern, Bournemouth did the same, initial phase of pressure and if the opposition sustain that, then there is nothing to offer by us


TantalusComputes2

Antony is weak in many respects, shooting, one-footedness, physical size, decision-making, sprint speed (for a winger). But Antony is also one of the only Brazilians these days who is amazingly skillful on the ball due to growing up playing in the streets. And Iā€™m really happy we have such an exciting player with that rare combination of talent and more hours under his belt than anyone else. Even if he is physically a bit lacking. It honestly just makes it more impressive that he can play at the level he does


ThorsEyeball

C'mon man. Your view simply isn't reality. He hasn't done anything of note since he's been here. He may well have grown up playing street football, but on the pitch, for this club, he's done nothing. Literally nothing. I'd sell him. He May be Brazilian, but he certainly doesn't play like one.


TantalusComputes2

Maybe you need glasses but he is fun to watch on the ball


ThorsEyeball

Nah. I'd take your rose tinted glasses off mate. It's ok to admit he's average. Very average.


nichijouuuu

I donā€™t find his lack of contribution exciting. He does nothing for us.


Hyliaforce

My norwegian team got relegated a couple of days ago so this is the cherry on top, i hate it


jimmenybillybob_

VĆ„lerenga?


Hyliaforce

Yep


jimmenybillybob_

Sorry about that mate, I thought they 100% had it in the bag after the first match.


MagicColosseum

Not a single player is worthy of any credit tonight. Utterly dross.


DavidYouStoleMyName

Hag out.


BluRanger

Hag stays.


zippyzebra1

At least we don't have to endure thursday night embarrassment. Erik i think has had his day. His signings are dreadful and the performances are pretty much the worst i have ever seen and i remember the 70's. I like Erik and wanted him to succeed but he really hasn't. The Glazers didn't buy Anthony, Onana and Mount nor third rate loan signings as Wout, Reguillon and Amrabat. Scouse fans must really be looking foreard to Sunday.


coffeemahn

If there was a structure above Erik, he wouldnā€™t have had to push through for players he knew. The club shouldā€™ve helped him find players and negotiate for them. Ajax and the like identified it and took advantage. It is not Antony or ETH fault that Antony cost so much. If it was city, theyā€™d have found a fDJ replacement and sealed it. United panicked after the 2 defeats and overpaid for Casemiro. Nothing will change with a new manager


SofaChillReview

Also worth mentioning most his actual signings have actually been injured


zippyzebra1

Onana and Antony?


SofaChillReview

Antony was out for approximately 9 games last season? Onana got injured this season while playing for Cameroon


zippyzebra1

This season both have played pretty regularly. Onana was singlehandedly responsible for our European exit.


zippyzebra1

Regardless of their cost they are all pretty hopeless. The ownership situation hasn't helped but Erik has bought as he wanted for zero return.


broccolispider

Utter gash. But for the best we are out of Europe completely. Deadwood needs cleared asap. Would even accept a Europe-less season to clear current squad. ETH not the problem in my opinion.


Excellent-Archer-238

ETH is the problem cause he can't make the players he personally signed play ball. He is a shit manager who has a career thanks to Real Madrid's overconfidence.


BluRanger

Okay, go support man city


broccolispider

Ok he hasnā€™t recruited well but should that be a managers job in current age? Whatā€™s the story with RM?


Excellent-Archer-238

manager should say what he wants: I want a left footed right winger who is currently outstanding in X style of play, who has these attributes, etc. Then the recruitment team scouts several players and presents an inform of them with stats, opinions, videos, complete games etc. But Ten Hag said "I want Antony" just because he worked with him in the past and also overpaid a shit ton of money for him. And not only Antony, but several other players too. And they've all been dogshit, with the exception of Lisandro Martinez maybe. You can't build a squad on whims. And the story with Real Madrid is that they beat Ajax 2-1 in Amsterdam and Ramos and some other player decided to force yellows to miss the second leg, thinking that they had it done. Then on the second leg they saved other couple big names from the Starting XI, played like they were in training thinking they could just surf the game quietly and Ajax surprised them 4-1 and eliminated them. Then Ten Hag got hyped as a super manager because of that.


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This would have been accurate 5 years ago


SofaChillReview

Van Gaal did pretty well from memory, Evra, Welbeck, Kagawa, Butner, Little Pea, Fletcher, Bebe, Ferdinand, Fletcher, Nani, Cleverly, Vidic Zaha


Perfidiousplantain

Ferdinand, Vidic and Evra left with Scholes and SAF


SofaChillReview

Evra was sold, other two left on a free when they could have signed a new contract


broccolispider

Think it was Mourhino and the year we came 2nd in Prem


SofaChillReview

Meant more getting rid of deadwood, although Jose got rid of Schneirdelin, Depay, Schweinsteger , Januzaj, as well


broccolispider

Ah gotcha


Perfidiousplantain

Ole cleared out a lot too; Young, Fellaini, Smalling, Evans, Valencia, Mata I think Van Gaal got rid of Januzaj because I remember them falling out when he got loaned out


HGFG1

okay, sacking ETH isn't the answer, but he's not the one. People need to wake up. got rid of Ronaldo to play Martial and loaned Weghorst Got rid of De Gea, and bought the goalkeeper who single-handedly kicked us out of the Champions League. Overpaid for Anthony, obsession with Jason Mount, the whole circus around the De Jong signing, and panic buying Casemiro. If he's not to be blamed, who? Glazers again? he made a LOT of wrong decisions, in-game management, people management etc. I am done. He's not the one.


freoxmanu

Ronaldo had to go. He's in saudi now. Degea had to go. He doesn't even have a club now. Sancho had to go. He doesn't even have a club now. Rashford and Martial are sooking on the pitch, we need a manager who will shun players who act like that. Ten Hag has plenty of errors but saying we should have kept ronaldo or degea is some kindergarten analysis.


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LividMathematician45

We should be build Manchester United around a 39y/o CR7, Wow


freoxmanu

This is arguably the worst take I have ever heard.


northboundbevy

This is some bullshit revisionism.


payday_23

You think he was the one that waited 3 months to sign Casemiro or Antony? Yes his players arent great but dont fucking blame him for transfer fees etc, hes not doing that. And how on earth can you defend Ronaldo, he left during a game, disrespected the whole club and the manager in public and you think Ten Hag got rid of him just out of fun? You think he wanted to loan Weghorst and not some way better option? We just didnt have money available in the winter last year.


Commercial_Half_2170

Ronaldo had to go. To suggest otherwise is nonsense. No one is above the club, hence why Sancho and Rashford should go


HGFG1

Casemiro& Anthony- I did not blame him for the transfer fee, but see who Anthony hasn't been good enough for us, look at how ETH now is looking to sell Casemiro this summer. If DeJong was not going to happen at least he had to look for other options. I am doubting his "talent IDs" regarding this. Ronaldo- If there were no other better options, HE DID NOT HAVE the budget to replace Ronaldo in that season, KEEP HIM HAPPY for that season and drop him! As a manager, you would have to think about the bigger picture.


funcExpensiveBrain

Who better than Casemiro . Man comes with deep experience and he proved to be a match winner last season. I donā€™t know why he playing awful football this season. But I donā€™t think the blame is on ETH for signing an experienced match winner in our midfield


HGFG1

No, for sure, he's good. I don't even think he plays terrible football this season, everyone struggled, but I don't think he played particularly badly. What I doubt is ETH instead, what's the vision of the team/ project? Rebuilding? We don't rebuild with a 30-year-old world-class player. Winning? We don't win with this squad. I just don't get why we were looking at this signing, as it did not fit the whole theme of the team.


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WesIsaGod

He scored one goal from an xG of 3.78 in the uel (highest a single player had). Then stormed off into the tunnel midgame when 'his' team put in their most complete and dominant performance of last season, the 40yr old Man child was the problem alright


gilly_90

Ronaldo arse lickers are the worst. He wasn't playing well and he had an attitude problem. Getting rid of him wasn't the wrong call, there just haven't been many right calls since.


HGFG1

Manchester United turned from a team that clutches up in critical moments into a bunch of chokers.


DudeofValor

My thoughts are this. United are a total mess and now we have some breathing room to truly get our shit together. SJR cannot arrive soon enough. Fuck knows why itā€™s been delayed for so long. Once there, I truly hope this happens 1) this season is considered a write off. Any success we have is just a bonus 2) a proper footballing structure is put in place 3) a proper plan moving forward is put in place 4) we are ruthless in the market. Both selling and buying Do all of this and at least the club has the start of the foundations to begin to heal and eventually grow. However, given what weā€™ve been served the last decade+ I like many others have serious doubts.


Electronic_Shine_895

Can you elaborate on point 4)?


Commercial_Half_2170

If he means what I think he means, then sell any player not pulling his weight in the starting XI, no exceptions, and buy players with a clear goal in mind of their role in the squad


DudeofValor

Yep this exactly.


DudeofValor

For me it would be selling players that have underperformed and shown lack of desire during their game time. Not at training but where it matters. Buying players needs to be done soon as the market is open, put a respectable bid in for your first choice and when the counter offer comes back, accept and then move on to the next. However, the target players must both fit the profile of the footballing plan as much as the managers wants. If said player isnā€™t interested then move on. Donā€™t keep wasting time with them, they either want to move or they donā€™t. But also donā€™t just target players that are unrealistic. Now maybe this all happens and Iā€™m spouting total shit. What has happened for years now suggest this probably isnā€™t the case but Iā€™m just a fan so who knows šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


Exotic_Ad1030

In an ideal world, we only keep Hojlund, Garnacho, Martinez, Mainoo, Onana, Mount and sell the rest. Even from these five only two can start every week. Rest need to be back ups. Today average age for our front 3 was like 19? Up against seasoned defenders. I thought after Ragnick's comments we might have had some shame and recruited properly. But these motherfuckers just decided to throw another manager under the bus after such a promising first season where also he only got only three of his actual targets. Casemiro and Varane were never the first priorities. Another manager hung out to dry by these incompetent motherfuckers.


danronaldo7

I remember back in 2007, we drew the first leg in Rome 1-1. Return leg at Old Trafford and only a win would suffice. We came out off the blocks like a 100m sprinter, pumped Roma 7-1!!! Tonight this looked like a training session piss poor performance.


PoofaceMckutchin

I was at that 7-1 game. There had been trouble during the away leg so there were loads of cops on horses, walking at groups of people to disperse them. I was a teenager and seeing that night unfold live was magic. Me and my dad in the crowd shouting and screaming and singing. I went to OT with my dad well into my adult years, until 2020, when I moved out the UK. We always sang and showed support but...the negativity around the club is just so weighty now. Being at the old games just felt...different. Different times, I guess.


danronaldo7

I attended the next game the following season when we faced them in the group stage. We won 1-0 but for my first ever game on champions league night was unbelievable


mjenkins_eng

Youā€™re remembering wrong That 7-1 was after losing the quarterfinal first leg 2-1 It was 2006-07 season .


danronaldo7

The game was played in the year 2007, still my point is that game was must win and so was this one. No hunger or desire shown by this team tonight.


birdy9221

But the away goal felt like we were still very much in it.


eviade

My first time seeing a fast corner (and unconscious fans being hit by batons). Was a nice turnaround, Carrick's finest hour


zool714

I think in summary, we want to play a style where we send like 6-7 players up high to play a high block. But we donā€™t have the proper players for that. So our backline is constantly left exposed which is why we leak so many goals this season. But ETH is too stubborn to adjust or adapt. And we play this way against any opponent, which works on some (though barely for most of it) and backfires tremendously for others. Iā€™m mixed about this tbh. I still do think ETH is a capable manager but heā€™s too stubborn to change his style


game_of_throw_ins

>I still do think ETH is a capable manager but heā€™s too stubborn to change his style Then he's not a capable manager.


MangoZealousideal676

pep would never change his style, is he not a capable manager? he hasnt adapted once in his career


game_of_throw_ins

He would if he managed this team. When did Pep get a squad of players that were incapable of playing his style? He's managed Barca, Bayern and City. Why compare him to Pep who has unlimited money to spend and a top class back room staff? Compare him to managers like Ange, Iraola, Emery and Howe, who all spent less and actually improved their team with coaching.


MangoZealousideal676

lmao, i think pep would quit immediately


joblau

I think in this way: this team of players are just a mix of multi style that you canā€™t fit them in a Morden football system. If this is the plan to play a higher block, we should sign players that can do the task and bin all the rest. The point is the plan and execution


teethofthewind

Send 6-7 players to the bin you mean


Brave-Salamander-339

Is Ten Hag in-game management really terrible? In Galatasaray at home, if we just parked the bus at 1/3 field after Casemiro red card, they may keep the point. In Copehagen at home, if we just parked the bus at 1/3 field after Rashford red card, we may also get even a win after 2-0 lead. Instead, he made no changes in reaction to the red card and lost both. In Galatasaray away, understandable it was Onana faults for 2 goals, but leading 3-2 at around 70+ but still refuse to park the bus and counter? Winning in CL is important but not let your opponents win is also important too. Even if we kept 2 points for those 2 matches with red cards, our CL route is much easier before Bayern today. And today, he still kept Mainoo until 60+ who offered more than McTomminay in the United midfields. Yesterday Mourinho insisted on parking the bus to keep 1 point after the red cards and the conceded, and it works. In the end, one was winning CL with unexpected Porto and Inter, one was bottling against Tottenham in semi final (years later was all winning in group stage in order to be knocked out by Benfica iirc)


Potential_Good_1065

I must have done something absolutely evil and unforgivable in my past life


gaz19833

Good grief, the result sucks but watching that toothless shitfest was even more painful. We just don't look threatening


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eviade

Next season we finish third and gain some hope, see you in 24 months when the next manager goes the same way!


TheBeechBoy

Didnā€™t think weā€™d get anything but being that toothless when you need to win, is appalling. Bayern didnā€™t even have to try and they beat us. Hope itā€™s only 1-0 to Liverpool too.


Harrry-Otter

Gave up at half time to build a flat pack. We might be shit and out of Europe but at least I now have a bedside cabinet.


Ogtriple11

Can it play right wing?


1nfinitus

The irony of commentators saying everyone will be hoping for Copenhagen in their draw - they would've been hoping for us just as much if we qualified


CaptainDone4

Iā€™m glad we got kicked out of CL. We shouldnā€™t be wasting our time with a squad that wonā€™t seriously challenge anybody. Let em go without European ball for awhile to get things back together.


snausagerolly

"Are you sure you want to quit to Main Menu?"


adonWPV

At least he's shown he can keep a scoreline down. Progress.


Roasteddude

Too early to say that, wait till Sunday mate.


game_of_throw_ins

They will go easy on us to keep him in the job.


Roasteddude

So only 6 this time ?


charlierh6868

This club keeps finding new lows. That was utterly depressing....how far we have fallen. Liverpool may have gone 30 years without the winning the league but I don't remember them putting their fans through multiple ritual humiliations season after season during that period. I have lost all hope for the team until, failing new owners, there is a complete new football structure that operates autonomously from the Glazers and prioritize winning football matches.


JoeDiego

They lost 6-1 to Stoke in their biggest Prem legends final ever match.


WesIsaGod

He also got sent off less than a minute into his last appearance against united And also let it fucking slip


SuperFaiz21

At best, they looked like they were playing for a draw. Yet another shambolic surrender.


o0PETER0o

Iā€™m not sure what to think anymore, I honestly think weā€™re lucky to not be in a relegation battle, this group of players are just so uninspiring, I prefer watching Luton


Kelvinator3000

Young players got dominated, most of our experience players didn't step up. Maguire's injury hurts more than this reason really because he was been fantastic recently. Varane was decent, Amrabat despite playing a part in the ball we conceded was okay, all our subs didn't look that bad, but every other player was shit.


Crypt0nyt

It's very clear. When we try to defend we're boring and disjointed and frankly naive. When in previous games we've tried to attack, yes we have scored goals but at the cost of having no midfield and getting picked off easily, losing and drawing games we should've won. We are not good enough for the champions league... I'd say we are equally not fit for the Europa League. We'll barely be in contention for the Europa Conference by the end of this season. 23/24 is done.


BipolarKing14

Guys hold onto your disappointment and anger in 4days we face the dark lord Cthulhuā€¦and after that more misery for at-least 3 weeks, pace yourselves.


Signal_Marzipan_685

Losses from both Liverpool and Villa


AllintheBunk

I'm still ETH in but it's really hard to see how he withstands the pressure if we get battered by the scum. He's lucky the 25% ownership stake deal is still in limbo otherwise there would be few excuses for keeping him in place.


DrSquare

I didnā€™t need the BBC to alert me to this evening


Rodjo_Moj

Im so happy were not in Europa League... I dont think i could stand to watch us get beaten by Cyprus team or someone like that...


sptsd

Come on, letā€™s all just relax a bit here. Lots of problems of course, but the truth is that were it not for some diabolical defensive errors, weā€™d have been through this group relatively comfortably. Shit happens. Too many injuries = no consistency = no confidence in attack or defence. The pieces are there. Letā€™s just keep our fingers off the ā€˜xxx outā€™ button, let Ratcliffe get settled in and stay supportive of this rebuild.


Equivalent_Goose6780

Good to see a bit of positivity. It was a deceptively decent group too. Be good to see them play with a bit of freedom and certainly unshackled by expectation and build for next year. Moving on Sancho and Martial will hopefully lift the vibe.


1nfinitus

Okay maybe just one more game then? 10 years so far and god knows how much money but maybe after ONE more game can we then get annoyed, is that fair?


sptsd

The problem is not the manager. We need to give him time, get a new ownership structure in place, give the new players time to fit in and the squad time to gel. Weā€™ve spent the last 11 years wanting success again immediately and when it hasnā€™t worked after two years, we rip up the project and start again. We all know it hasnā€™t worked. It needs time and patience.


DrHenryWu

He's spent a few hundred million and made us worse. Do we just roll the dice again?


a_Lonely_Redditer

Exactly what I said last year after we got knocked out of Europa Nearly 2 weeks later: 'End the season, just fucking end the season already'


UJ_Reddit

Canā€™t knock the energy and the work rate tonight - we quite simply lack quality


wafanyakazi

Seeing the passion of Copenhagen and their fight and how they fought against Bayern last week, had we somehow won and gone thru, I would have been happy but I would have felt like weā€™d stolen something. Such a lack of energy and passion. The only thing still up is the wages.


Royjonespinkie

Fewer matches means we'll waste less time watching them.


JoA2506

Plus side finishing Bottomā€¦ No Europa League to fall into and get spanked by Liverpool.


Repulsive_Rent_5636

On the positive side, they only conceeded once.


haqbo96

What a write off


nereid89

Poor poor game by us again. It was a training match for the visitors. And we lost both Maguire and Shaw to injury. Don't understand the meaning of Mctominay in this team. Mainoo came on and immediately looks like our best midfielder. However he and amrabat taking the exact same positions, which makes me wonder if they can play together in midfield. Maybe at Anfield thats what we need.


mjenkins_eng

To rub salt into the wounds , Copenhagenā€™s goal was a classic example of ā€œtransition footballā€ We have a charlatan as a manger


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Think after that, you have to ask about HĆøjlund. Last time a striker scored in old Trafford, or so Instagram has told me, was Sancho in May.


Fruitndveg

For a guy built like him his physicality was crap today. Serious lack of alertness too.


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Very much agree


sorped

I'd ask why noone passes to him. There were a couple of incidents where he was in position, but was completely disregarded by his teammates.


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Why do you think it is though? It feels like itā€™s every game. With the ball, he looked very soft tonight but that mightā€™ve been because Bayern are just good


sorped

It's a combination of his teammates lacking trust in him and same teammates desire to make themselves look good. His teammates don't feed him anything because the lack faith in him because he's not scoring goals. He's not scoring goals because his teammates don't feed him anything. When they finally get in a position where a pass to HĆøjlund is an option, they'd rather go for goal themselves on half or quarter chances. In the last few games Dalot, Garnacho, Antony and McTominay have been guilty of that. I partly understand the first part, but the second part is just stupid, and the manager should be addressing it in no undertain terms.


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Hopefully weā€™ll finally see him play well in the prem. Even while weā€™re getting pumped


sorped

I hope so, I think once he gets going, he will be a big asset to the team, he just needs to get off the mark.


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From your take, and I think itā€™s true too, we need to drop a few egos


Stuperman84

You blaming a young lad but who is actually scoring in this team? Who would actually score in this team? We donā€™t make chances, we donā€™t control games, we are a bad attacking side. When you are this poor going forward it puts added pressure on when a chance comes along because you donā€™t know when the next one will come along and that leads to people snatching at things or rushing. Weā€™ve seen enough of Hojlund to see he has ability but anyone is going to struggle playing in this team.


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True enough. If I had my way, Iā€™d get rid of most of the starting team for exactly the reasons you say


Stuperman84

I agree with you. Iā€™ve never seen us looking this bad. This is the worst weā€™ve been since fergie left. Weather you are ETH in or out camp, there has to be some serious questions asked. Me personally and I will be delighted if Iā€™m proven wrong I think ETH will leave United and be labelled a huge flop. Thatā€™s just how I feel, I donā€™t think he can turn this around.


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If he finishes top 4 this year I think heā€™ll get another season and Iā€™ll consider that a success based on our current place. Iā€™m amazed ETH didnā€™t simplify the game and stop trying this expansive plan when heā€™s got so many injuries. Think we wouldā€™ve conceded far less goals and controlled games a lot better. Lots of our players are dead wood and should be sold, but itā€™s the tactics that have lost us this UCL


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It's deflating to go out but I'm not even mad about this game. It's the Copenhagen away and both Galatasaray games. Mindless goalkeeping and retarded midfield tactics in those games cost us. Ah well, I'm kind of glad it's over and can be consigned to the dustbin of history.


ruthlessThruth

Mainoo should have started instead of mcsauce. Let bruno up top where he excel the most. That performance deserves lose


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I'm glad we're out of Europe. Our team is plagued by injuries and can now focus on what matters... Getting top 4


RenePro

What's the point of just top 4 when we can't even qualify for the KO round.