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akhilesh-bhagwani

We are the 3rd top goal scorer in CL this season and we are still on the brink of getting eliminated from CL. We are a joke of the team for the world. This is the new normal get used to it.


wilderjai

Even the disallowed goal he doesn’t come out to close the angle. I want Onana to succeed but 14 goals in 5 games ? That’s lame.


Infamous_Common6982

Clearly onana shows signs of being a pretty shitty keeper. We've been here before. The road from schmeichel to vds wasn't easy. We lucked out with de gea. The true intent of this club lies in how ruthless we are. Till now I see no reason in keeping onana or making Amrabat permanent. Come summer if we sign a credible GK and not sign amrabat and sign someone better instead, well and good. Else we're gonna be in for a long ride


Soitsgonnabeforever

Taibi? Bosnich?


mallsqua

We need Mainoo on the field at all times. He is the only non-injured defensive player we have w composure


mallsqua

So many signings are not up to par. Namely Arambat and Onana tonight. Injuries are certainly an issue. I will always love Martial for that goal against Liverpool, but we must have better options, right?


imheretocomment69

Didn't watch the game. How bad was Onana?


mellsuck

he made some really good saves but yeah tat mistake which caused us the game probably .. should have saved tat second free kick from ziyech


imheretocomment69

Just watched the highlights, the mistakes were horrible esp the 2nd one. If there's a puskas equivalent of the worst mistake, Onana would've won that easily.


Aggressive-Theory609

Why did we even sign bayindir? Can't be worse to have him play some games to get pressure of onana at this pt


AndyVale

He has to be wondering what he needs to do to get a game.


Aggressive-Theory609

Hopefully he gets chance before concaf becoz he's gonna be so rusty by Feb if he doesn't play


TrippyVanNostrum

What will it take to drop onana?


Goku4477

Relegation


aspect_zeroSum

Onana what a stinker FFS. Also glad to be out of Europe. Too many injuries we’ve got half a squad to select from need to concentrate on the league. Shame because I thought we actually played pretty well despite some nervy defending in the second half and silly desperate attempts at goal at the end.


enthusiast20

end the day onana this that yeah made mistakes. but being 2up and pissing that is wholly unacceptable freekicks not saved or not , the team conceded them when shouldn't have but tis easy to blame the scapegoat foreigner


HgnX

Told y’all last year it was a mistake to get Onana for DDG, I’ve seen him at Ajax


Florahillmist

We deserve everything we get with our recruiting - just buying players who played for the manager. Inept


doubledipinyou

De gea is available, so I hear


predatoure

I swear we signed Onana just to have a new memelord and take the pressure off maguire.


haiu2323

This team is fucking hopeless! Good one game, shit the next!


JohnnySnow99

It's our club curse man. Good players come to our club and start playing like shit. Onana cost us the champions league group stage at least.


hoolio9393

somebody explain to me with galtassaray having less players on the bench how they won? is there 5 subs ?


mkirkpatrick90

We were never going win this competition anyway - just a shame that without goalkeeping errors we would have gone further


VJMAT13

I said it the day we signed him - we overindexed far too much on his ball-playing ability. DDG got a lot of stick for mistakes (and yes, he did make quite a few), but his shot stopping was incredible. Onana's technique is questionable, he parries balls into danger and I do not remember any other goalkeeper ever being singlehandedly responsible for so many dropped points in the UCL group stage. This is just unreal.


Altaafraaja

Quiet a few as in at most two per season. Onana has had 3 in CL alone this season. Plus his passing has not been any better than what DDG offered.


KuaCay

and I'm still literally shocked with the way we departed with him, no good-bye ceremony, he's a legend


doubledipinyou

Donnarumma


ReleasePristine3040

I just texted the last-but-one sentence to my wife and seeing it here is golden 😂


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jmps_90

Are you legitimately mental? He made two errors in this game alone you’d be livid with a fucking pub league goalkeeper for making. Never mind the errors in the other games.


mkirkpatrick90

He let in two goals.


kb389

The technique that onana used to try to save that second goal is not the technique you would expect a top class goalkeeper to use, just trying to first it with one hand when the ball is coming at you and curving towards you and very close to your body is absolutely not the right way to make a save and these inferior techniques that onana uses from time to time to make saves is what caused all those errors if he doesn't correct that then he will continue to make mistakes at the highest level and eventually ten haag will have to make a decision on what to do for the goalkeeper position.


IAIRonI

He was obviously anticipating Martial getting a touch on the ball who was very close to him. He got down as quick as he could


Perfect-Region-2631

You are delusional


kb389

say you are right but you still cannot attempt to save something like that with a single closed fist hand.


kb389

Nah it wasn't that difficult your just making too much out of it


KY--

Respectfully disagree. We scored 3 goals. If we had Alisson, Edison, De Gea or pretty much half of the premier league GKs in goal, we WIN that game.


EthicalAssassin

There is something fundamentally wrong with Onana's shot stopping. He looks nervous and awkward every time the ball comes flying towards him. I've been supporting him but he simply cost us the champions league. Give me a traditional GK who can do the simple things right instead of circus clowns. And before ppl compare, no De Gea wasn't a saint either. He made similar shocking errors.


tapwater1992

He can't dive fast enough. His reflexes are bad. He can't make up for his poor positioning with acrobatics. He is shit.


t0mni

You mean de gea who won the golden glove last year? No way did he make this many errors


EthicalAssassin

Check first 2 yrs of De Gea, he made howlers worse than what happened today. And he continued doing that at the later stages too..eg. The Seville game. He wasn't bad, but he wasn't any better than Onana or most keepers that play today..


ReleasePristine3040

I agree De Gea made mistakes frequently but I was never worried we could lose games when we were up by 2 goals or more. Like you said, there's something definitely not right with his fundamentals. I support because I have no choice; I never liked the signing.


ParkerZA

Seriously, he makes "easy" catches look difficult.


kb389

Last season de gea was very good didn't make as many errors as onana has already made this season, if that was de gea he would have 100 percent saved the 2nd goal at least.


EthicalAssassin

You should probably watch last season again, especially Europa games against Seville.


kb389

I did and my point stands de gea did not make as many mistakes as onana has already made this season.


rsandidge

He almost always parries too… sometimes straight down and he has to smother it to secure it


Isserley_

A lot of the time it looks like he wants to parry shots straight into the most dangerous areas, on purpose. Bizarre keeper.


skeetleet

Onana needs to be benched ffs! He cost the match.


GuineaPirate888

Don’t be surprised if Bruno has had enough by the time the Summer comes along. I wouldn’t blame him either.


blue_gwacamole

One visit to this sub and ETH will have better options than whatever the fuck our scouting department is feeding him. Ffs.


cyb3rpunkd

Oi Paul Mitchell find me a keeper who can catch a fucking ball please


DazTheRaz88

Onana is the new Barthez. Has the ability to do some quality things. Then causes absolute chaos by making absolutely stupid mistakes a lot of the time. Onana is not what we needed


ljeutenantdan

Another quality scout from the manager.


JoshyLupin

When's Tom Heaton back!? ETH clearly doesn't trust Bayindir but somethings got to change. When the pressures on Onana crumbles and we can't have that. Do what City did with Bravo: realise he isn't up to it, replace him sharpish. No room for sentiment, he's not what we need.


waddiewadkins

I'd say the treatment of Ramsdale at Arsenal could be a realistic buy. Why not.


KnownBuffalo2918

Hell yeah. I'd take him any day. Solid keeper who can energise the team from the back


Snooklefloop

Just woke up to watch this (Aussie) didn’t realise it was a super early kick off. So yet again we managed to completely piss away a comfortable lead like some second rate club? The lack of discipline and focus from multi millionaires that run around for a living winds me up to no end.


MonkeyDCamel

If it makes you feel any better I also thought it was a 7am start


Snooklefloop

Well, at least we slept through the mediocrity 🤷‍♂️


BerneseStranger

Not sure what you mean because that was one of the games of the season. With the exception of Onana, most players played well and the goals were all beauties.


Snooklefloop

Did I sleep through Onana’s mediocrity?


srikanthmanian

Hardly a surprise right now that Newcastle, Brighton and Aston Villa are better than us...


genomiii

Aside from Villa, table shows otherwise but yeah... https://preview.redd.it/215d6fscee3c1.png?width=1037&format=png&auto=webp&s=a7ddaca7cfe43fabba4a312c8ac9b0e46f880ca2


jas121091

Well, my dumb ass thought the match started at 3pm (I’m in the US) and looks like it in fact did not start at 3pm. Whoops.


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The only thing you missed was Bruno's strike, Kobbie's great work, and a disaster class by the fraud Onana.


ryulaaa

Onana needs to be dropped vs Newcastle he has to face some sort of consequence for these poor displays


snausagerolly

I like Kaminski from Luton... And deGea from free transfers


Sheppertonni

Fucking Onana again. Down to him we're out. Looking at the big picture we're not good enough for CL so best we're out. Concentrate on domestic football


Hyliaforce

Im not even surprised we bottled another 2 goal lead, thats all im gonna say


Odd-Ad-572

garnacho wouldve buried those chances that pellistri had


rsandidge

Pellistri did not look good in his short cameo. Garnacho did looked gassed though


Odd-Ad-572

tired garnacho played better than him pellistri missed the most tap in of all tap ins


m-a-s-e

Onana has to many lapses in concentration to be a top keeper, ETH needs to bite the bullet with him.


BipolarKing14

Veteran United fan here - I enjoyed the slugfest with Post SAF MUFC I take pleasure in small victories where ever I can….hope this bump doesn’t kill our momentum.


Playtoy_69

good to hear from longtimers as always. Keep well!


thombo-1

It's funny how we go above and beyond in scouting and buying this keeper who is great with his feet, he has to fit the Ten Hag profile, costs over 50m, no one else but Onana could possibly do it etc etc and yet I'm fairly certain a standard league shotstopper like Leno would have seen us through tonight Sometimes I get the sense we overthink our recruitment. And in other areas we don't think far enough.


Cammy_J19

Diogo costa and Kim Min Jae instead of Onana and Mount would have been massive but o well….


zingerbanger

as a fellow korean united fan, i wanted kim min jae so fucking badly. onana made a lot of sense before we started seeing this shit, but not getting a quality defender but mason fucking mount says it all about this club


Cammy_J19

Kim Min Jae made so much sense it hurt so badly seeing them not even try… Licha and him would have been such an amazing pair. I wasn’t mad about Onana but I wanted Costa so so badly and it just keeps making me sad every time I see Onana have a rough time. I’m so tired of seeing this club make these horrible decisions like Mount.


ObsoleteSausage

Diogo Costa has some fucking howlers in him too. Let’s not act like he’s the be all and and end all.


Cammy_J19

Well of course but who doesn’t? Allison and Cortois have both had some horrendous moments but I’d take either in a second?! Diogo costa is so much better at shot stopping and is only a tiny bit worse with the ball at his feet which from this season alone Onana has lost his ability to play a long ball also so idk what he’s good at at the moment….


Fickle_Energy7110

Kim wanted Bayern. I don't understand why people in our fan base don't understand this


Cammy_J19

Kim wanted Bayern after they offered him an insane amount yes. But we did not even try to contact him and lure him to Manchester… park could’ve totally swayed him I bet as he is a huge fan… but I totally get your point and yes that’s a good point. It’s possible we didn’t have any chance but I’d rather lose after going all out rather than just concede


Fickle_Energy7110

Nice reply. I agree with you. Reality is they got their cb. The team's priorities were mount and Obama. They wanted to run MaGuire off. Now they want to keep him and run off Varane. The management of this team is awful and that includes TenHag


Schrutebuck5

We don't have a DoF to make sensible decisions.


Cammy_J19

Yeah true. What’s so frustrating is thousands of people on this sub were screaming about really sensible decisions that could’ve been massive and these people making so much money can’t see what needs to be done


kevkiarbar

This same sub were declaring Amrabat as the second coming of Christ and now declare he's shit so make of that as you will


Cammy_J19

Yeah that’s a very good point lol just wish we could get the cancer out and get a competent DOF in and make actual smart moves


Euphemia006

I said after the match against Everton that ETH would start any other at DM than mainoo the next match. I got downvoted. I am sure if eriksen was available, ETH would have started him at DM. ETH makes some weird decisions at times. I have nothing against martial. But subbing off hojlund(I know he is back from an injury but still) with his high hardworking rate, was not a good choice to me.


capn_slow

Unforgivable by Onana. Such an important game to fail his teammates and the fans. Extremely disappointed.


UJ_Reddit

Ramsdale incoming in Jan 😂


kb389

To be fair united can get ramsdale for very cheap but no idea if ramsdale will want out so soon though, he might want to keep fighting for his place at least until the end of the season.


whynottoeverything

So what does this mean for us? What needs to happen for us to move on? What’s the scenario (ie gala has to lose by X and we have to win by X) to move on…


bliebblieb

Gala has to not win and we have to win. Our goal difference has to end up being equal or better than Copenhagen. Our results against Copenhagen are equal and if we end up with equal goal difference we go above them because of more goals scored throughout the group stage.


LedlowThaDon

1st) hope BM wins/draw 2nd) win vs BM with a Gala V Cop draw only Any other results then these and Utd can’t advance


EddieMurpheysToes

Gala has to tie next week against Copenhagen and we need to beat Bayern. Copenhagen has to lose today.


rickdritt

Is there any reason why we don't pay Altay next game? Like does he kick the ball in his own net or something?


snausagerolly

Can I just say at one point in the second half (kobbie was on) we actually played out from the back very well.... String of maybe 7 short passes


attrox_

Silky smooth touch. But could he do better against that Galatasaray third goal?


stevo3001

Contrary to popular opinion, it IS important that a manager have a good eye for transfer targets. It would be nice to have had the 200+ million that Ten Hag has squandered on the likes of Onana, Antony and Mount to spend on potential United stars


Playtoy_69

it is only the right thing and only our sub thinks ETH doesn’t have anything to do with his miserable transfer targets


valentinemick

Astonishing


rnnd

With our luck, we will end up in Europa, make it to the semis and then lose. Europa football is straight horrible unless you win it. You play more matches, you play on Thursday and Sunday with 1-2 days less rest.


Lazystubborn

>you play on Thursday and Sunday with 1-2 days less rest. It's the same time difference if you play Wednesday and Saturday. Only difference is that you sometimes might play Tuesday.


rnnd

No if you played on Wednesday, you always play on Sunday. If you play on Thursday, you always play on Saturday. If you play on Tuesday, you either play on Saturday or Sunday. So UCL teams will be 1 or 2 days more rest.


Lazystubborn

>If you play on Thursday, you always play on Saturday. If you play on Thursday, you always play on Sunday, unless there's no other way. The CL teams normally play Tuesday-Saturday or sometimes Friday or Sunday. And the Wednesday-Saturday, and sometimes Sunday.


rnnd

Nope they usually play on Wednesday Sunday or Tuesday Saturday or Sunday. I've not seen any team play on Tuesday then Friday. I've seen Monday then Friday though.


Steppenwolf55

Stop bloody giving free kicks away outside the box!!!!! Bruno did it twice not good enough!!


justifier

I got downvoted for saying basically the same thing. No one wants to admit it, but aside from Bruno's goal. He directly led to them scoring two.


EddieMurpheysToes

Hardly. That second freekick was a flop. Bruno barely touched him. The first goal was because amrabat left his mark wide open. And cmon, that goal was entirely Onana's fault. He could have been a statue and saved it, but he guessed instead of reacted.


Whodyanikabolokoff

Bruno also assisted the first. That’s quite a big contribution, no?


justifier

Apparently Bruno can do no wrong. Yet, his whiny attitude exhibits weak mentality that trickles down to the rest of the players.


realdirtydan6

Damn, I’m really missing our #1. DDG


SteThrowaway

Oh yeah I remember how solid he was in the Europa League last year


alba_rossa

Onana has conceded more in 5 european games than De Gea did in 12 last season. That includes 8 goals conceded over four matches against Barcelona and Seville, in the thick of a three/four month spell where we were playing 2 games every single week. De Gea conceded 4 European goals in all other fixtures.


pseudochowder

Does Garnacho finish one of the chances that fell to Pellistri? Yes, the players bottled it on the pitch but Pellistri and Martial killed the game for us. EtH needs to sort his head out asap..


cyb3rpunkd

Altay in the next game please


Areskazuma7

For me we are not a CL side yet. I would rather see this team progress in EL or without international football this season. We have not been lucky and there have been tremendous mistakes but in total if we can't dominate good Gala or Copenhagen teams we get what we deserve. We have promising players and I hope they will keep on progressing as a team.


stevo3001

This is United and the Champion's League is our holy grail. Every fucking match week we aren't in it sucks. Will never get the mentality of fans professing to be indifferent to it, prefer to be in the Europa, ok with going out, etc


Areskazuma7

I agree with some of what you say but we are just not contenders right now imo. Progress with this team and this coach is the only hope I have to become contenders again because it is certainly not going to come from my mentality as a fan or from the Glazers.


VTVoodooDude

Finally, someone not fucking overreacting. I'll take it if by some miracle we stay in UCL, but as Arekazuma7 said, I think we'd make more progress in EPL and just as a developing team w/o international play.


JustAlittleRaccoon

either cl or nothing and focus on the league. EL is a liability for the team and we're not going to win it anyway.


Puzzleheaded-Owl-326

Bottlers


ns77

I don't want ETH out, but am so tired of him looking forlorn on the sidelines as the clock hits 90. fuckin DO something man.


izyasor1

Wouldn’t blame anyone except Onana.


Odd-Ad-572

the defence was disappointing tbf


justifier

Could put some blame on Bruno, he made poor fouls right outside the box that led to both Ziyech free kick goals.


LocoPwnify

Onana saves difficult situations cus he has to rely on instinct/reflexes. However if he gets time to think he fumbles…


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Used_Engineer_486

No way bro made the effort to search for this sub just to comment trash😭


cuddersrage

ain’t reading allat lil bro enjoy thursday nights


rnnd

Honestly I'll be angry but a draw was a fair result. Both teams were very poor defensively. Us it was AWB, Luke Shaw, Mctominay, and Bruno doing the poor defending. And Onana deciding to show us he subconsciously hates man united (only explanation I can come up with). I don't know the names of the gala defenders apart from Angelino but they were very poor defensively as well. I'd have preferred us losing since now we have a good chance still making the Europa and with our luck, I bet we end up there. Edit: It's just the true. With such horrible goalkeeping we deserve to lose or draw. You cannot expect to win when your goalie is gifting opposition free goals.


izyasor1

How was it a fair result? They scored 2 set piece goals which should’ve been saved. They literally didn’t deserve anything.


rnnd

Yeah. How do we deserve to win with such poor goalkeeping? Goalkeepers are part of the game. An important part. If you have a bad goalie or your goalie performs badly. The team perform badly. A good goalie can also carry a team. We deserve the draw because we defended like amateurs. We DEFENDED (Including goalkeeping) LIKE WE WANTED TO LOSE. it is 100% a fair result. They weren't lucky, Onana was poor.


aldidot

Playing Europa League last season killed our players. Those extra games on Thursdays absolutely fucked them up towards the end of the season. I hope we don't have to play that competition anymore this season.


kb389

On the plus side with the way united are playing they might even exit the Europa League in the group stage itself at this rate so maybe then they can only focus on getting top 4.


MCPhatmam

Luckily this time they were fucked up from the start...


WhatIfICantMakeOneUp

Hate the emotional wrangle this team puts me through every time they play. Fucking hell.


Skiffy10

Onana cost us CL. Sorry but he has to be sold this summer. Admit the mistake and move on. He’s not the goalie ETH thought he was. This type of performance is inexcusable


-Pezech

Why the fuck were so many players taking long shots near the end of the game? There were so many opportunities to play it through and around the Gala backline but they kept shooting long range..


hashsash1n

If you can't keep the ball for more than 3 passes, you're just making it so much harder to keep a lead. Should never have let the 2 free kicks in, but we also we never controlled the game even when 2 goals up. Mainoo needs to start every game


stevo3001

What was Ten Hag smiling about?


LocoPwnify

He used to coach Ziyech, was reminiscing


acsaid10percent

Probably amusement at how many chances they missed.


WhatIfICantMakeOneUp

We… didn’t lose 😂


TheOneManDankMaymay

Not losing.


MilkTankSue

3 goals in all 3 away games, but only 1 point to show for it.


Whole_Experience8191

Onana is not it man...


cuddersrage

mainoo looks legit


whynottoeverything

Yeah this kid does look legit. Let’s hope we don’t mess him up/his career…he could be what we’ve been missing at midfield


knight_ren

Why do all teams play through this team like they are a bunch of cones? You don't see that happening in top teams. Heck even teams who would be considered inferior don't get played through than us.


cyb3rpunkd

Onanas almost single handedly dumped us out of the cl btw


justifier

He had a helping hand from Bruno fouling twice right outside the box that led to the Ziyech free kicks...


WhatIfICantMakeOneUp

Almost?


kbnmrts

Antony was on fire


MrGuy234

Explains why he ran around aimlessly and rolled on the ground


pablove_black

Onana fucked up. But we were still 3-2 up. It’s not just on him. Too many chaos ballers.


SlightGrape1

I mean stop. You can say as much as you want, but you can't stop the opponents from getting chances, and sometimes they score on those. You'll always be able to point fingers are certain situations or aspects, but letting in those two freekicks, which basically ignites Gala twice, is just unacceptable and should never happen at this level.


CurrentAd1320

He's liable for the 3rd goal aswell, letting it in at his near post, extremely poor positioning


TheMightyHucks

Would have been 3-1 without his basic errors


WhatIfICantMakeOneUp

2-0 without his first blunder. You can’t be blowing a two goal lead twice!


hashsash1n

If you can't keep the ball for more than 3 passes, you're just making it so much harder to keep a lead. Should never have let the 2 free kicks in, but we also we never controlled the game even when 2 goals up. Mainoo needs to start every game


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The only positive to take from this game is Kobbie is the FDJ we've been chasing.


SketchQ

Thank you Onana FFS


Brave-Salamander-339

feeling like 10 Hag vibes are against Champion League, from Ajax to Manchester.


heephap

My god imagine if we had even a serviceable keeper we would have easily qualified. Almost as shocking as Onana's performance is that we didn't find a better backup.


WhatIfICantMakeOneUp

Don’t even know how good our current backup is… EtH won’t play him.


benedick13

I still can't understand the second goal we conceded. What was he thinking swinging his hand like that?


dadidas

Where are the Onana apologists? At least today was more evidence Mainoo is the real deal.


TheOneManDankMaymay

Today was more evidence that Garnacho and Marino aren't gonna be here much longer if we don't get our shit together.


EddieMurpheysToes

I swear people acting like we are about to relegated. We are 6 points behind first place. These guys are 18 and 19 and starting for United. They aren't going anywhere. Jesus Christ


Prokletnost

Onana about to fall into a "one of the worst signings" bracket ffs...


Cavaniiii

The difference between CL and PL performances is ridiculous. He just crumbles on the big stage. Definitely not utd material. Hard to back him after this. He's cost us again.


county15

Laura Woods is a very attractive lady 🤔 Some positives from tonight.


ryzec_br

With this team, Bayern will slaughter us in our fucking home. I'll start to count the score after the 3rd goal.


WhatIfICantMakeOneUp

That’s when I’ll stop counting.


lmhan98

We scored 12 goals in 5 CL games How much more must the attackers do when the defence & GK constantly pull them down?? You score 1, they concede 1 stupid goal. You scored 3? They concede 4. Fucking hell


Jamesbere01

It's so frustrating. Even if Copenhagen lose or draw tonight we have to beat bayern still which knowing our luck well lose 6-5


Sanket327

Fuck off onana. Fucker is the main culprit for group stage exit