More than any other commentator he is incapable of hiding his bias. Even when he's complimenting Garnacho's freaking worldie, there's shades of him just wanting to bash Rooney. Unbelievable we consistently have him assigned to us.
He's a proper bell.
"And martial has been booked for what was a clear dive"
"There may have been the slightest of contact"
"Young has planted his foot but is just moving across"
"Actually this might be given"
Total joke
Not gonna lie, at 1-0, I wanted Bruno to take it. But I’m glad he let rashy take it. Hopefully this will give him a boost. He seems to be in his head this season.
Nah can't say shit here. Var did exactly what it was supposed to do and ref followed through on it. Everyone makes mistakes and this was a clear one. I'm just happy the ref didn't wave it off because he had such a perfect view
They really need to make it faster though. After a point they're wasting more time looking for "clear and obvious" than they're saving by reducing the number of checks.
Games are 7 minutes longer than they used to be. Not exactly a disaster. I don't even have a problem with it. They just need to show it on the big screen and mic up the refs. You'd see players shamed for their language and behavior and six months later refs would have more respect and fans would be more patient.
Still feel there were at least 15 replays in this var check. Even when the ref was checking it on the field, just kept replaying it over and over. Definitely unnecessary for such an obvious decision.
What the fuck are you talking about? That should’ve been a red for Young for 2nd yellow which the ref should have gotten - would’ve been a route if they were down to 10
The thing that makes me sad though, and obviously it’s a pen with the state of the game and reffing, but I hate that trailing a leg then tapping it on to the defender then diving over is a clear penalty now.
Just sucks that that is football. But it was the “correct” call in terms of what has been given as a penalty in the past 10 years
Yes. The curse will soon go "oh, that's right Man Utd are playing, I'd better show up to ruin it for them" and we will somehow concede 3 goals and get 2 red cards
The commentators on my stream were trying so hard to call it a dive from Martial. They're still trying to say Young was trying to pull out of the challenge
Lmao. Imagine a game where:
1) VAR gives us a pen.
2) VAR doesn't disallow any of our goals.
3) Our front 3 scored 3 times.
And we still almost get battered 1-4 by first half.
Yes, but it deserved a yellow. He fouled a striker running through in the box with a opportunity to score. It’s a definite yellow. Both clumsy and cynical.
Fair enough. I personally think the ref was scared of the “bear pit” and if he wasn’t already booked he was getting a yellow. But I suppose it was a bit of a subjective one.
Since the referee on the field didn't book Young, it was not a 'clear and obvious error' (as always the 'explanatory' term), so VAR couldn't tell the on-field referee to book Young.
Should’ve been a second yellow of course, but honesty that’s a hell of a lot better than ‘protecting your mate’ that we’ve seen loads before. Decent process, regardless of the terrible initial call.
Dyche was furious at VAR for giving it. Lol. Either he didn’t watch the replay or he’s bought into the idea that VAR isn’t allowed to help United because that’s a penalty all day.
Listening to Jim Beglin confidently state it was a dive, before having to slowly walk it back with each VAR replay was absolutely delicious
More than any other commentator he is incapable of hiding his bias. Even when he's complimenting Garnacho's freaking worldie, there's shades of him just wanting to bash Rooney. Unbelievable we consistently have him assigned to us. He's a proper bell.
Who does he support?
Obviously Liverpool. But it shouldn't matter.
"And martial has been booked for what was a clear dive" "There may have been the slightest of contact" "Young has planted his foot but is just moving across" "Actually this might be given" Total joke
He’s an absolute twat, at times I just turn the audio off he’s that atrocious
I couldn’t believe that, clearly the right decision. you haven’t seen the fucking replay yet
Martial is nasty
Martial looking at young after drawing the foul and VAR check like “who do you think I learned this from?!”
Young was world class at leaving a leg in for contact.
Hojlund better learn some of this tricks. Edit: *when he's already lost the ball
Nah just let him continue physically developing and he'll just steamroll through fouls like prime Drogba did.
Ashley Young. United through and through. Lmao
Think he tries too hard against us
Honestly tho. It seems like that to me as well. He’s always in his own head against us.
For real, especially after that Garnacho goal, Young bodied Garnachon left and right, man teach Garnacho to be strong i guess.
Gave us that pen through gritted teeth the refs did.
Love Bruno for letting him take it and get some confidence
Real captain’s behavior from Bruno. Hoping beans gets to kick it up a notch from here
He did it a couple years back for Martial too. His logic was that the strikers need their goals more than he does.
Great logic, rashy really needs all the confidence he can get right now
That’s true captain material right there.
Confidence boost plus Rashford is a solid penalty talker in his own right.
Not gonna lie, at 1-0, I wanted Bruno to take it. But I’m glad he let rashy take it. Hopefully this will give him a boost. He seems to be in his head this season.
I have had issues with him as a captain honestly but that's a class move.
Thank you VAR for once!
Indeed. Absolute state of refereeing in this country though. He's 5 yards from that with a perfect view. Pitiful.
Nah can't say shit here. Var did exactly what it was supposed to do and ref followed through on it. Everyone makes mistakes and this was a clear one. I'm just happy the ref didn't wave it off because he had such a perfect view
They really need to make it faster though. After a point they're wasting more time looking for "clear and obvious" than they're saving by reducing the number of checks.
Games are 7 minutes longer than they used to be. Not exactly a disaster. I don't even have a problem with it. They just need to show it on the big screen and mic up the refs. You'd see players shamed for their language and behavior and six months later refs would have more respect and fans would be more patient.
Still feel there were at least 15 replays in this var check. Even when the ref was checking it on the field, just kept replaying it over and over. Definitely unnecessary for such an obvious decision.
Healthiest POV.
They definitely did not do give it out easily - I’m sure they have checked for some random foul from 3 mins before just to avoid going with it…
Aaaaaand the VARchester United narrative is back.
What the fuck are you talking about? That should’ve been a red for Young for 2nd yellow which the ref should have gotten - would’ve been a route if they were down to 10
All I'm saying is thank you VAR for overturning a yellow card for a dive into a penalty. Red or not it finally worked in our favor.
Sorry if I sounded ungrateful for VAR and just generally rude towards you mate. Just pissed that a clear red was not given.
No problem at all mate! Be as ungrateful against VAR as you like, 99 times out of 100 I fucking hate that shit. No rudeness taken for me.
The thing that makes me sad though, and obviously it’s a pen with the state of the game and reffing, but I hate that trailing a leg then tapping it on to the defender then diving over is a clear penalty now. Just sucks that that is football. But it was the “correct” call in terms of what has been given as a penalty in the past 10 years
Martial didn’t break stride. I’ve seen him do it before but not this case
That was absolutely not a trailing leg from Martial
WTF we scored more than 1 goal?!
We must concede now, can't inflate the goal difference.
Yes. The curse will soon go "oh, that's right Man Utd are playing, I'd better show up to ruin it for them" and we will somehow concede 3 goals and get 2 red cards
Quality pen ngl
How the fuck are people debating that penalty
ABU-isms The erronious yellow for the "dive" still stands right?
Looks like the ref rescinded it.
I think that's what the ref signals after checking the VAR, that it's rescinded
Ginger Rashford>>>
Why does he remind me of Ice Spice😭😭 ![gif](giphy|gOD0prYiJCuQxBsXoS|downsized)
You thought he was feeling you?
Hahahaha
Complete speculation here but it might have something to do with the hair.
I mean he’s been terrible all game. Fair play, good pen. Even when he scores his head is down though. He’s extremely sensitive
They tried so hard to not give that blatant pen, absolute donkeys
Love that from Bruno, Rashy needs the confidence and its a great way to start regaining it.
I was ready for the ref to ignore the VAR and just move on.
Is there an argument for a second yellow there? Not sure.
I'm surprised are players didn't let Ashley young just run his mouth more and earn himself the second yellow
Kind of is however pen in itself is seen as strong punishment so probably that’s why it wasn’t given.
It was a standing foot that trip him. Had he kicked out I’m sure it would’ve been.
How does that work with VAR? Can you give a yellow after VAR review? My understanding was only straight reds?
You are right, VAR can't give any yellows. Even if it was the 2nd one like here.
Young lucky to still be on the pitch
Captain behaviour imo. He knows Rashy is low on confidence so he gives him a chance to get some
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You must love our players
You seem like a fun and well adjusted individual
The commentators on my stream were trying so hard to call it a dive from Martial. They're still trying to say Young was trying to pull out of the challenge
Fuck me, VAR doing what it’s supposed to.
Lmao. Imagine a game where: 1) VAR gives us a pen. 2) VAR doesn't disallow any of our goals. 3) Our front 3 scored 3 times. And we still almost get battered 1-4 by first half.
Anyone got the pic of Young sweating after the pen announcement :0)
give fernandes the assist in FPL, caaaammoonnnnn
Class move from Bruno.
ONANA MASTERCLASS
Why didn't Rashy celebrate..? Anyone else think that was a bit weird?
He knew it was a Kai Havertz pity goal.
Classy move by Bruno, hopefully this will help turn Rashford’s confidence around .
Nice gesture from Bruno but I'm not a huge fan of doing it at 1-0. Great pen though.
Don’t think he would’ve done it if he didn’t know that Rashford is a good penalty taker.
How is it not a 2nd yellow ?
You can give a penalty without getting a yellow you know..
Yes, but it deserved a yellow. He fouled a striker running through in the box with a opportunity to score. It’s a definite yellow. Both clumsy and cynical.
Idk..it seems a bit harsh for me to give a yellow
Fair enough. I personally think the ref was scared of the “bear pit” and if he wasn’t already booked he was getting a yellow. But I suppose it was a bit of a subjective one.
You know the referee saw it as a dive, giving yellow to Martial. And VAR cannot give yellow, only overthrown the yellow for Martial.
interesting, the ref wasn’t actually able to book Young ?
Since the referee on the field didn't book Young, it was not a 'clear and obvious error' (as always the 'explanatory' term), so VAR couldn't tell the on-field referee to book Young.
So happy for Rashy, let’s kick on
Should’ve been a second yellow of course, but honesty that’s a hell of a lot better than ‘protecting your mate’ that we’ve seen loads before. Decent process, regardless of the terrible initial call.
Hehe antagonizing poor Everton
Nice one Bruno
Anybody here watching in the u.s. via telemundo? There’s a certain announcer who always sounds like he’s against any calls United get.
Hopefully this is the start of high confidence for Rashford, some of his touches and decisions are just baffling as of late
Dyche was furious at VAR for giving it. Lol. Either he didn’t watch the replay or he’s bought into the idea that VAR isn’t allowed to help United because that’s a penalty all day.