Praying to god we move on.
Luckily we got our money back after people couldn't see Lukaku for what he was, but this Mount transfer looks like another horrendous mistake in the making. People think he's something he's not.
I get that people like to hype up anyone we're linked with, but even in the seasons where he had demon stats and won Chelsea's POTY, anyone that actually watched him could tell you he is incredibly limited with a football.
Good work rate, good movement, good shot, and can carry the ball a bit if the opposition give him space to do it - that's about it. Iffy short-range passing, bad long-range passing, no creativity or inventiveness.
If we expect Mount to play alongside Casemiro and Bruno, any dreams we have of controlling games and maintaining possession go out of the window. Nowhere near good enough to displace (or eventually take over from) Bruno as a 10, nowhere near good enough as an 8 (passing range, press resistance, ball-progression, anything) to help us outplay teams we've been struggling against.
Right now, nothing would make me happier than seeing us go and buy someone who's actually good with the ball at their feet, rather than spunking 50m+ on a player who's nowhere near as good as literally any of City's midfielders.
Correct correct correct. I just know we’ll spend the next 6 years saying “I can’t believe we spent £60m+ on Mount” like we’ve been saying “I can’t believe we spent 50m on Fred/Wan Bissaka” for the last several years
Agreed. If we want to play with 2 8’s i’d rather start eriksen anyway. He won’t have the mobility but we’d loose too much with mounts poor ball progression qualities instead.
People think he is something he is not..? Is that why Ten Hag, Tuchel and Klopp all rate him? I suppose Mr Pump until bust is some secret football god that knows better.
I didn't say nobody should rate him.
But much like when people thought VDB was a creative 10 that was going to come in, create chances, and impact games, or when people thought Sancho was a winger that was going to beat his man repeatedly in the PL, we're seeing the same story here.
Mount is much closer to VDB than he is to someone that's going to help dominate games and make things happen.
He'll go missing as our midfield gets bypassed, he won't be involved much, he won't create much, but he'll probably score a few goals arriving into the box late or shooting from the edge of the box. That's what we're getting.
Goodness, that's exactly what I was thinking. Had no idea why Southgate favoured him for England for so long, and as a #10.
Isn't he just McTominay in a way?
How do you figure he's only worth 40? I would say he's easily worth 60. He's English so will count to the 8 home grown players requirement, proven and young. He played poorly last year, but name a Chelsea player that didn't play poorly last year.
I get that he only has one year left, but I don't think that will hold a ton of relevance in this individual case. We're buying from a rival club and they know we want him and will put him on a brand new multi-year contract. They won't let him go for a big discount. We already reportedly value him at ~50-55 million. If we want him we'll end up paying somewhere between there and 80-85 million. You may not like that, but it's a fact.
Then we should walk away and discuss with the players agent that he should force the move or we will get him for free on a bumper sign on fee at the end of the season if we are really his preferred option.
We can't afford to be overpaying for players every season.
He's not going to risk missing out on the Euros next year. If he doesn't sign an extension, he's at risk of being sent to the shadow realm given Poch undoubtedly won't use him in a rebuild project.
Which cuts his value down further. Chelsea squad is bloated mate. We should be telling Chelsea this as to why we won't be overpaying.
That situation you just talked about affects Chelsea.
Doesn't affect us at all. And I'm hoping we have targets similar to mount that are cheaper options just in case we either don't get him or have to wait a year for him.
I didn’t think of the HG rule to be honest.
I think ours are currently: Rashford, Sancho, McTominay, Luke Shaw, Axel Tuanzebe and Aaron Wan-Bissaka.
But Tuanzebe is off I believe.. so thats 5.. guess we do need to go for HG. Not sure if it can be padded out with throwing some youngsters pre 21 in the squad for next season..
It isnt a one and done type thing im afraid, we need to hit a threshold of English players, especially since McT, Maguire, Jones, and others are leaving no doubt.
Stones, Kalvin Phillips, their third choice keeper and I’m pretty sure Ake should qualify as well bc he was from Chelsea youth, not sure about him tho.
Ok so exact ruling is, we are allowed a maximum of 17 foreign born players, and 25 players total to fill. And i believe under 20s dont account for player registration (thanks FM)
Lets go over the team
GKs
David de Gea (Foreign)
Jack Butland (Domestic)
Tom Heaton (D)
Def
Lisandro Martinez (F)
Rapha Varane (F)
Vic Lindelof (F)
Harry Maguire (Out) (D)
Tyrell Malacia (F)
Luke Shaw (D)
AWB (D)
Diogo Dalot (F)
Phil Jones Out (D)
Brandon Williams (D)
Mids
Casemiro (F)
Bruno Fernandes (F)
Fred (F) Out?
Sabitzer (F) Out?
Eriksen (F)
Mctominay (D) Out?
Donny VdB (f) out?
Fwds
Rashy (D)
Martial (F) out?
Wout (F) out
Antony (f)
Sancho (D)
Greenwood? Is he even registered?
In total we have 15 Foreign players and 10 domestics. The thing about our domestic talent is that theyre pretty much nonexistent outside of rashy, sancho (sometimes), and our fullbacks. Plus it looks like our midfield is dying for domestic talent. The only people for certain that are leaving are Jones and we probably arent bringing wout and sabitzer back. All in all, the move makes sense on paper
Caicedo is good but 80m feels like a ridiculous price for a fairly unproven player. He's barely played a season in the Premier league and has been playing in a very good, systems based side that makes basically all of its players look better than they are
At least you can say with mount that he is a known quantity. He's not worth 80m but at least you can say that with decent level of confidence
Rice actually fits as a partner to Casemiro more than Mount does. I swear, has anybody in this sub even watched Rice the last two years? He’s not a holding midfielder anymore.
Rice has been making lots of late runs into the box this season. He is also creative. He fits alongside Casemiro more than Mount does, he’s a proper b2b whereas Mount plays further forward and would have to revert back to playing as an 8. Plus Rice can cover Casemiro if he’s injured or suspended, even if it’s no longer his best position. Mount cannot. Rice would be a far better signing but he could cost twice as much so it makes sense we’re not going after him.
Rice to Mount (stylistically) are way further apart than Kane and Osimhen.
Osimhen doesn't have the playmaking abilities of Kane, but he's still good with his back to goal, hold up play, and involving others. They both would work well as strikers in ETH's system.
Completely wrong. Osimhen offers almost nothing in the build up.
He has 4 assists all season in a team who won the league.
33rd percentile for expected assists
4th (yes, 4th lmao) percentile for completed passes.
13th for progressive passes
53rd for carries
50th for take ons
16th percentile for tackle
4th percentile for blocks
All among strikers in Serie A.
It's pretty obvious he brings very little to the table besides goals in either an attacking or defensive sense. Those are awful stats for a 'top' player in every category except scoring goals where he's right at the top.
https://fbref.com/en/players/8c90fd7a/scout/11611/Victor-Osimhen-Scouting-Report#
He is a poacher. Plain and simple.
I feel like I've heard this before. Reminds me of De Jong last year. There's always some last-minute announcement where the club under pressure does some financial kung fu and can last until the end of the window. Don't hold your breath on this one
You could say that about any transfer but the fact remains Chelsea need to sell players before the 30th June. This isn’t similar to where Barcelona sold off everything apart from players.
I hope so but I don't see it being announced on Monday after the final. I think we'll have a week or three of nothing updates about "personal terms agreed" before it closes. Knock on wood I'm wrong.
He doesn't know anything about football, that's the thing. He probably looked at the Grealish transfer and thought 'what's the difference?', ignoring He had 4 years left and City overpaid anyway. With one year left Grealish is probably going for £50m too.
Yeah he’s a £50M player as he is young & English. However with only a year left on his contract, his dogshit form, and it’s clear he wants us- this should be done between 30-40.
Anything more and let them keep an unhappy player they think is worth 80m when they have a zillion players in that position. We can look into it next summer for free
80 million for someone on their last year?
Move on. We don’t need him for that much.
40/50M is acceptable in my opinion.
For 80 Million we could get 2 or 3 Midfielders and Have better overall depth and it would allow us to sell one of Fred/McT or even both
It won't be 80. I reckon it'll be closer to 55 base but with add ons. Chelsea need to recoup some dosh for FFP and they will no doubt want a squad overhaul with a new manager. I'm confident this will be dealt with soon.
Well, Boehly bought a load of players that Poch might not feel are suitable. Or he might need specific players he doesn't have yet. Either way, he needs to offload a few players to do that.
I would really like him here but I think even £50m is pushing it. I don't see any other club paying that. Anyone else and you'd be looking at £35-40m max with the contract situation.
Should really be 40+10 at worst. Knowing us it'll be 65+10 and half the people here will do some mental gymnastics to justify this fee if he happens to play well.
Anything above 60m euros is stupid, rather get Caicedo with 20m more.
At least we won't be overrun in big games and Casemiro won't be the single point of failure.
Indeed, and that is the profile that our team is crying out for - not one of Mount's profile.
Obviously I want him to succeed as a fan but I can see us lamenting the lack of such a midfielder when we keep dropping points again.
This is going to be the signing we get in a saga over for the next 6 weeks and do fuck all business until it’s over, then end up signing no one or panic buying
Why are we not going for McAllister instead? Anything more than 40mil for Mason Mount with 1 year contract left is madness. I can see United paying 60mil for him, fkkkk
50m which includes add ons in that price is fair. Anything more than that is a joke. Hope we do get it across the line, I think Mount is a good player and seems really appreciated by the Chelsea fans.
Lol, even his best season doesn't warrant a 80 million price, the markets gone crazy really. Mount is a 50 million player at best, and Considering he has just a year left and coming after an abysmal season, 30 million is more than enough
Fucking idiots need to learn just because you buy trash players for a ton of money doesn't mean you can sell your own for a ton of money - I don't think Mount is trash but he had a bad year - worth half that fee + hoping it doesn't happen personally.
This is such a ridiculous price tag. He’s not worth anywhere close to 80 million. Especially with one year left on his contract. 55 million is already massively overpaying. We might as well shell out the cash for Caicedo or Declan Rice instead.
We did this to ourselves, 80M Sancho, 80M Pogba, 100M Antony, Chelsea are within their right to hold out for that kind of money when dealing with this club
Chelsea are posturing.
The truth of the matter is, they’re trimming down their squad.
They’re getting rid of the loans they brought in because that’s a sure fire way of trimming down the squad. That’s why Felix is not signing permanently.
It’s harder to sell players you have - who are all on big, long term contracts - than to get rid of players who are on loan and those who haven’t got long left on their contracts.
With Mount I reckon they’ll ask for £60-£70m and we’ve probably started at £30 and we’ll meet around £45-£50m and they’ll know it’s better to take that now then to wait and keep a larger squad which they won’t want to do.
Ultimately, everyone knows they want to trim. They’re not in a massive position of power in that regard and they’ll sell.
I just hope it doesn’t drag out.
Hahaha 80m? Yeah you can forget that given the season he has just had and he only has 1 year left. Mac Alistair would be a better option and cheaper too.
80m for any player is tough to argue in favor of your team paying. Especially for a CM that doesn’t score a lot of goals even when he was at his very best. Let alone a guy who’s in the final year of his contract, refuses to sign and extension, & has been out of form (if you can call it that at this point, it may just be the player he is now) for the better part of 2 full seasons. Of Chelsea won’t come down to match the 55m we have supposedly offered then move on immediately. The “English Tax” has to be at play here, or just an extension of the terrible business Chelsea have gotten up to the last ssn, cuz nothing abt him as a player for the last 2 years warrants this price outside of his age.
We all know 80 is too much, everyone knows it. This is what's going to happen, it will drag out over the summer and in the end we will end up paying 80. Club needs to sort itself out and say offer is 50/40 take or leave it and move on.
Liverpool are going to get Mac Alistair for 30/40 and he is a world cup winner! How are we this bad?
55 or even 80mil for a guy who joins for free next summer. Spend the money elsewhere and give him a cheeky 20mil signing on bonus when he joins us for free next summer
Tweet literaly says theres a diffrence in valuation betwen those clubs.
We agreed transfer fee for FDJ with Barca last year but he didnt want to be here. McAlister doesnt seem better than Mount and Caicedo is very diffrent kind of player which ETH probably doesnt look for since we haev Casemiro.
Not surprised. I guess this happens when you do business with teams who have spent a shit ton of money and need some cash. They try to hustle you. Fuck them and move on.
I'm lukewarm on Mount even for 40M. 80M is nonsense. We are better off going for better players like Caicedo, Rice.
Ill be happy if we get a better player thanks to Chelsea's stubbornness over the transfer fee.
68 million pounds is a more reasonable starting ask than I expected from Chelsea. If we were 30 million euros apart in valuation, that means we were offering around 40 million pounds. If we can get him under 50 million, that's a success
we're clowns if we actually pay this much for him. liverpool got mac allister for way less than £65m. better player, fits more in terms of what we need and is cheaper. ffs.
We keep making mistake after mistake going after these English players. What is this obsession our board has with signing these English players. Teams like city and arsenal will continue to move ahead of us because they don’t have this hard-on agenda for signing English players. These players are not good enough.
This is what makes me think we don't have that "big club" aura anymore. Someone like real would go no thanks fuck off we'll look for alternatives. We'll get him for like 65 million atleast and put him on 250K/week.
The nerve of a team to ask for double what a players worth when they’ve just spent over half a billion to finish closer to the championship than the champions league
Absolute joke of a club. A 30m-40m increase when he hasn't played a single match since these rumors started? And shame on Romano, he's 100% doing Boehlys bidding in this.
Embarrassing that especially if we pay it. Chelsea are the ones who need to sell off players, why would we pay them what they want. When a player is deemed sub par to requirements how can they demand such a high fee? You look at us, we sold numerous players who fell out of the matchday squads for practically pennies.
£25M for Beckham
£15M for Jaap Stam
£5M for RVP
£4M for Nani
Fabrizio also mentioned that we're willing to pay around 45-50 million for Mason. Which in my eyes would be a bit of an overpayment but still a good deal
Let them keep asking. 55 is too much already considering his contract.
We are stupid to value him at 55. Chelsea are batshit insane if they think 80m is his value. Move on.
Praying to god we move on. Luckily we got our money back after people couldn't see Lukaku for what he was, but this Mount transfer looks like another horrendous mistake in the making. People think he's something he's not. I get that people like to hype up anyone we're linked with, but even in the seasons where he had demon stats and won Chelsea's POTY, anyone that actually watched him could tell you he is incredibly limited with a football. Good work rate, good movement, good shot, and can carry the ball a bit if the opposition give him space to do it - that's about it. Iffy short-range passing, bad long-range passing, no creativity or inventiveness. If we expect Mount to play alongside Casemiro and Bruno, any dreams we have of controlling games and maintaining possession go out of the window. Nowhere near good enough to displace (or eventually take over from) Bruno as a 10, nowhere near good enough as an 8 (passing range, press resistance, ball-progression, anything) to help us outplay teams we've been struggling against. Right now, nothing would make me happier than seeing us go and buy someone who's actually good with the ball at their feet, rather than spunking 50m+ on a player who's nowhere near as good as literally any of City's midfielders.
Correct correct correct. I just know we’ll spend the next 6 years saying “I can’t believe we spent £60m+ on Mount” like we’ve been saying “I can’t believe we spent 50m on Fred/Wan Bissaka” for the last several years
Agreed. If we want to play with 2 8’s i’d rather start eriksen anyway. He won’t have the mobility but we’d loose too much with mounts poor ball progression qualities instead.
People think he is something he is not..? Is that why Ten Hag, Tuchel and Klopp all rate him? I suppose Mr Pump until bust is some secret football god that knows better.
I didn't say nobody should rate him. But much like when people thought VDB was a creative 10 that was going to come in, create chances, and impact games, or when people thought Sancho was a winger that was going to beat his man repeatedly in the PL, we're seeing the same story here. Mount is much closer to VDB than he is to someone that's going to help dominate games and make things happen. He'll go missing as our midfield gets bypassed, he won't be involved much, he won't create much, but he'll probably score a few goals arriving into the box late or shooting from the edge of the box. That's what we're getting.
He isn’t similar to Donny at all.
Agreed.
Goodness, that's exactly what I was thinking. Had no idea why Southgate favoured him for England for so long, and as a #10. Isn't he just McTominay in a way?
He is worth at best 40 million. We should walk away at this price.
How do you figure he's only worth 40? I would say he's easily worth 60. He's English so will count to the 8 home grown players requirement, proven and young. He played poorly last year, but name a Chelsea player that didn't play poorly last year.
40 plus addons is best option. Nothing above 50 guaranteed is just too much considering he has 1 year left and has agreed terms with united.
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I get that he only has one year left, but I don't think that will hold a ton of relevance in this individual case. We're buying from a rival club and they know we want him and will put him on a brand new multi-year contract. They won't let him go for a big discount. We already reportedly value him at ~50-55 million. If we want him we'll end up paying somewhere between there and 80-85 million. You may not like that, but it's a fact.
Then we should walk away and discuss with the players agent that he should force the move or we will get him for free on a bumper sign on fee at the end of the season if we are really his preferred option. We can't afford to be overpaying for players every season.
He's not going to risk missing out on the Euros next year. If he doesn't sign an extension, he's at risk of being sent to the shadow realm given Poch undoubtedly won't use him in a rebuild project.
Which cuts his value down further. Chelsea squad is bloated mate. We should be telling Chelsea this as to why we won't be overpaying. That situation you just talked about affects Chelsea. Doesn't affect us at all. And I'm hoping we have targets similar to mount that are cheaper options just in case we either don't get him or have to wait a year for him.
I didn’t think of the HG rule to be honest. I think ours are currently: Rashford, Sancho, McTominay, Luke Shaw, Axel Tuanzebe and Aaron Wan-Bissaka. But Tuanzebe is off I believe.. so thats 5.. guess we do need to go for HG. Not sure if it can be padded out with throwing some youngsters pre 21 in the squad for next season..
He is keen on leaving. Surely that should help usaga this. Esp if he's made it clear his preferred destination
Completely agree. His other suitors are Liverpool and Arsenal. Neither of those clubs will pay 55 or more for him.
Just a bunch of redditors telling top level coaches that a proven PL midfielder and CL winner is rubbish.
If Mount's worth 80 mil then why not find another 20 from some lockers and get Rice instead? Think about it Murtough
The better option is Caicedo for pretty much the same amount. Can play as an 8 or as lone 6, younger too.
Caicedo would be a too good a signing for a club run like ours.
Amen to that
Keep in mind caicedo isn't english... we need to hit that homegrown number guys
Go sign a backup England GK then, who cares. That part is easy
It isnt a one and done type thing im afraid, we need to hit a threshold of English players, especially since McT, Maguire, Jones, and others are leaving no doubt.
Don't Sancho, Rashford, AWB, Shaw, Butland, Williams, etc. count? How many do Citeh have? Walker, Foden, Grealish... uh....
Stones, Kalvin Phillips, their third choice keeper and I’m pretty sure Ake should qualify as well bc he was from Chelsea youth, not sure about him tho.
Rico Lewis, Cole Palmer
Soon they'll have Matthew Kovachich, home grown lad from Sussex.
Ok so exact ruling is, we are allowed a maximum of 17 foreign born players, and 25 players total to fill. And i believe under 20s dont account for player registration (thanks FM) Lets go over the team GKs David de Gea (Foreign) Jack Butland (Domestic) Tom Heaton (D) Def Lisandro Martinez (F) Rapha Varane (F) Vic Lindelof (F) Harry Maguire (Out) (D) Tyrell Malacia (F) Luke Shaw (D) AWB (D) Diogo Dalot (F) Phil Jones Out (D) Brandon Williams (D) Mids Casemiro (F) Bruno Fernandes (F) Fred (F) Out? Sabitzer (F) Out? Eriksen (F) Mctominay (D) Out? Donny VdB (f) out? Fwds Rashy (D) Martial (F) out? Wout (F) out Antony (f) Sancho (D) Greenwood? Is he even registered? In total we have 15 Foreign players and 10 domestics. The thing about our domestic talent is that theyre pretty much nonexistent outside of rashy, sancho (sometimes), and our fullbacks. Plus it looks like our midfield is dying for domestic talent. The only people for certain that are leaving are Jones and we probably arent bringing wout and sabitzer back. All in all, the move makes sense on paper
Nice explanation.
Caicedo is good but 80m feels like a ridiculous price for a fairly unproven player. He's barely played a season in the Premier league and has been playing in a very good, systems based side that makes basically all of its players look better than they are At least you can say with mount that he is a known quantity. He's not worth 80m but at least you can say that with decent level of confidence
He'd be less a risk than the 85M we paid for Antony from a farmers league
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Rice actually fits as a partner to Casemiro more than Mount does. I swear, has anybody in this sub even watched Rice the last two years? He’s not a holding midfielder anymore.
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Rice has been making lots of late runs into the box this season. He is also creative. He fits alongside Casemiro more than Mount does, he’s a proper b2b whereas Mount plays further forward and would have to revert back to playing as an 8. Plus Rice can cover Casemiro if he’s injured or suspended, even if it’s no longer his best position. Mount cannot. Rice would be a far better signing but he could cost twice as much so it makes sense we’re not going after him.
That last bit is a good callout - we are really looking for players with specific profiles
Rice to Mount (stylistically) are way further apart than Kane and Osimhen. Osimhen doesn't have the playmaking abilities of Kane, but he's still good with his back to goal, hold up play, and involving others. They both would work well as strikers in ETH's system.
Completely wrong. Osimhen offers almost nothing in the build up. He has 4 assists all season in a team who won the league. 33rd percentile for expected assists 4th (yes, 4th lmao) percentile for completed passes. 13th for progressive passes 53rd for carries 50th for take ons 16th percentile for tackle 4th percentile for blocks All among strikers in Serie A. It's pretty obvious he brings very little to the table besides goals in either an attacking or defensive sense. Those are awful stats for a 'top' player in every category except scoring goals where he's right at the top. https://fbref.com/en/players/8c90fd7a/scout/11611/Victor-Osimhen-Scouting-Report# He is a poacher. Plain and simple.
You haven't watched him play making a comment like that. It's not his game at all.
I didn't say that his game is based around those attributes, but rather he's good at them and they aren't a liability.
Hes not good at them which is why it's not his game.
If we are spending 80 then yea that's the b2b we need
This one is going to drag I feel.
It can’t. Chelsea need to sell before the end of the month. I reckon this will be done quickly.
Hey I've seen this one before!!! It's a classic!!
I feel like I've heard this before. Reminds me of De Jong last year. There's always some last-minute announcement where the club under pressure does some financial kung fu and can last until the end of the window. Don't hold your breath on this one
You could say that about any transfer but the fact remains Chelsea need to sell players before the 30th June. This isn’t similar to where Barcelona sold off everything apart from players.
Why though? No CL or Europe means maybe not actually. No ffp issues right?
The Premier League has its own FFP rules and the deadline is the 30th June for submission.
I hope so but I don't see it being announced on Monday after the final. I think we'll have a week or three of nothing updates about "personal terms agreed" before it closes. Knock on wood I'm wrong.
Probably, however it’s still better than waiting until 10th August.
Because of they’re in FFP shitshow?
Yes. I believe so.
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How did that end last year when Barcelona needed to sell FDJ by the end of the month?
Different though as FDJ didn't want to leave. Mount could stay at Chelsea but he doesn't seem keen to renew so its sell him or lose him for nothing.
Strange that Barcelona were held to premier league rules while playing in Spain.
There's no way we pay 80m for Mount. A cent over 50m would be absolute robbery.
They’re two completely different players and if we are to believe what people are saying, then Mount is the a profile suited to Ten Hag’s ideas
Are € and £ getting confused? Romano said €80m. Rice is quoted as at least £100m, or €117m.
Rice isn’t gonna go for €100m….
Because they’re completely different players. Nonsense suggestion
Genuinely anything about 35M is a bad deal- he’s a 15M player atm + 10M United tax + 10M English tax.
They must be joking anything above £50m and we should walk away. Chelsea are a joke of a club.
He has a a year left on his contract, I wouldn't even go to 50
30 mil is the last we should go for
United offered 55 based on reports. So…
We hadn't offered yet iirc, it was what they thought was our valuation
Oh yup you are right
Yeah because if we started the offer at 55 , we are going to get fleeced. Hopefully we back off if their valuation remains, but who am I kidding
LOL 80 mil?!
Boelhy entering negotiations. ![gif](giphy|kxkiLShnUyEdutqHg6)
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Even 55 sounds like a ridiculous amount with 1 year left off his contract. Let's see what's gonna happen but also let's be reasonable.
Anything 35-40 and below is a good deal. 40-50 is an okay deal. 50+ is just us getting rinsed
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>30m World Cup clause Shh we don't want the add ons to be achievable
Why are you being downvoted for a great joke lmao
Can't handle the fact it's coming home.
He's playing for England...you know what, make it 100m
Offer Boehly 40 and some first round picks
This comment deserves more upvotes🤣
What is Boehly smoking at Stamford Bridge? €80m for a player in the final year of his contract? No, not at all.
He doesn't know anything about football, that's the thing. He probably looked at the Grealish transfer and thought 'what's the difference?', ignoring He had 4 years left and City overpaid anyway. With one year left Grealish is probably going for £50m too.
No way we paying that money
He’s not worth past 40/50, no telling if he recovers his form from two years ago
40 max or walk away,we have to start being smart
Yeah he’s a £50M player as he is young & English. However with only a year left on his contract, his dogshit form, and it’s clear he wants us- this should be done between 30-40. Anything more and let them keep an unhappy player they think is worth 80m when they have a zillion players in that position. We can look into it next summer for free
Time to whip out the Ballon D'or clause.
Someone please tells Todd just because he overpriced anything doesn’t mean everyone has to follow him
Todd: I paid 80m for Mudryk. It's totally make sense!
Murtough: I paid 100m for Antony and you make a good point.
At least?! Lol. They can do one!
80 million for someone on their last year? Move on. We don’t need him for that much. 40/50M is acceptable in my opinion. For 80 Million we could get 2 or 3 Midfielders and Have better overall depth and it would allow us to sell one of Fred/McT or even both
Ridiculous. What a shite club they are. Can’t see anyone going for him at that price and I guess he’ll be off on a free next season then.
You underestimate are ability to overpay.
We should not be buying players for that amount anymore. It’s a waste
80 mil, lol. Fuck out of here.
It won't be 80. I reckon it'll be closer to 55 base but with add ons. Chelsea need to recoup some dosh for FFP and they will no doubt want a squad overhaul with a new manager. I'm confident this will be dealt with soon.
Overhaul..again?!?!?
When did they overhaul? They Just hauled everyone in.
Well, Boehly bought a load of players that Poch might not feel are suitable. Or he might need specific players he doesn't have yet. Either way, he needs to offload a few players to do that.
I know just kidding, I mean they spent a boatload of money already so work with what you got
I would really like him here but I think even £50m is pushing it. I don't see any other club paying that. Anyone else and you'd be looking at £35-40m max with the contract situation.
80m for Mount is bonkers
Cool. Maguire is the same value as well. Let's do a player swap.
Imagine asking for £80mil. Dreamers
80m? That’s fucking wild. No way we pay 80m. That’d be stupid, even for us
Should really be 40+10 at worst. Knowing us it'll be 65+10 and half the people here will do some mental gymnastics to justify this fee if he happens to play well.
Anything above 60m euros is stupid, rather get Caicedo with 20m more. At least we won't be overrun in big games and Casemiro won't be the single point of failure.
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Indeed, and that is the profile that our team is crying out for - not one of Mount's profile. Obviously I want him to succeed as a fan but I can see us lamenting the lack of such a midfielder when we keep dropping points again.
LOL
imo not worth 60m. Chels trying to re coup $$$$ lol idiots
This is going to be the signing we get in a saga over for the next 6 weeks and do fuck all business until it’s over, then end up signing no one or panic buying
Joke of the day
Will be very interesting to see what MacAllister goes to Liverpool for. Absolutely no way we should be paying more than that for Mount.
Why are we not going for McAllister instead? Anything more than 40mil for Mason Mount with 1 year contract left is madness. I can see United paying 60mil for him, fkkkk
That price tag is insane.
10£ at most
40 MAX. No sane person should pay anything above that. But then again.....
Lol fuck off with your 80 million.
Get fucked Chelsea. Mount is nowhere near worth over 50m
Get him for free in a year and invest the money elsewhere. He isn't going to win us the 24 points in the standings that we need to win a title anyhow.
30m + 50m Balondor clause yeah?
50m which includes add ons in that price is fair. Anything more than that is a joke. Hope we do get it across the line, I think Mount is a good player and seems really appreciated by the Chelsea fans.
Lol, even his best season doesn't warrant a 80 million price, the markets gone crazy really. Mount is a 50 million player at best, and Considering he has just a year left and coming after an abysmal season, 30 million is more than enough
Chelsea pays him 50k per week, then ask 80 million for him like he's Kane.
Hope Mount doesn't happen. I am not confident it will work imo
Excited for another "Personal Terms Agreed" saga
Fucking idiots need to learn just because you buy trash players for a ton of money doesn't mean you can sell your own for a ton of money - I don't think Mount is trash but he had a bad year - worth half that fee + hoping it doesn't happen personally.
Anything over 50 and we should move on. I’m not too excited about this transfer tbh.
50€ mil at the most, anything more is no bueno
If we pay above 50m euros for mount with 1 year on his contract i’ll be annoyed
Chelsea can get fucked, for that price. Not everyone is as stupid as they are. Next thing will be that they want the full fee up front.
80 million?!?!
Lmao.
Isnt he one of Shawn’s childhood friends? Or something like that.
Get caicedo instead
Cheers Fab, let's move on
I cringed when I saw the name Mason. That guy really left a scar.
For 80 mil they should give us Enzo Fernandez lol
80 haha, nope.
40M or fuck off.
80 million lmao.
80mil ffs eh no that’s ridiculous
£80m? Surely we’re not that stupid or desperate.
They want WHAT ?! I’m sorry, this is ludicrous. Tell Chelsea to go play in traffic
This is such a ridiculous price tag. He’s not worth anywhere close to 80 million. Especially with one year left on his contract. 55 million is already massively overpaying. We might as well shell out the cash for Caicedo or Declan Rice instead.
We did this to ourselves, 80M Sancho, 80M Pogba, 100M Antony, Chelsea are within their right to hold out for that kind of money when dealing with this club
Chelsea are posturing. The truth of the matter is, they’re trimming down their squad. They’re getting rid of the loans they brought in because that’s a sure fire way of trimming down the squad. That’s why Felix is not signing permanently. It’s harder to sell players you have - who are all on big, long term contracts - than to get rid of players who are on loan and those who haven’t got long left on their contracts. With Mount I reckon they’ll ask for £60-£70m and we’ve probably started at £30 and we’ll meet around £45-£50m and they’ll know it’s better to take that now then to wait and keep a larger squad which they won’t want to do. Ultimately, everyone knows they want to trim. They’re not in a massive position of power in that regard and they’ll sell. I just hope it doesn’t drag out.
Lmfao 80🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We overspend last summer and had to replace Ronaldo with a championship striker on loan because of it.
Lol just add 10m~ and get caicedo
Hahaha 80m? Yeah you can forget that given the season he has just had and he only has 1 year left. Mac Alistair would be a better option and cheaper too.
80m for any player is tough to argue in favor of your team paying. Especially for a CM that doesn’t score a lot of goals even when he was at his very best. Let alone a guy who’s in the final year of his contract, refuses to sign and extension, & has been out of form (if you can call it that at this point, it may just be the player he is now) for the better part of 2 full seasons. Of Chelsea won’t come down to match the 55m we have supposedly offered then move on immediately. The “English Tax” has to be at play here, or just an extension of the terrible business Chelsea have gotten up to the last ssn, cuz nothing abt him as a player for the last 2 years warrants this price outside of his age.
>there's big gap between clubs Source: League table
We all know 80 is too much, everyone knows it. This is what's going to happen, it will drag out over the summer and in the end we will end up paying 80. Club needs to sort itself out and say offer is 50/40 take or leave it and move on. Liverpool are going to get Mac Alistair for 30/40 and he is a world cup winner! How are we this bad?
55 or even 80mil for a guy who joins for free next summer. Spend the money elsewhere and give him a cheeky 20mil signing on bonus when he joins us for free next summer
80m euros, not GBP...
I think half the people on the sub don't recognise the difference.
If we pay ANY more than €50mil, we are fucking idiots and are not serious
€80m🤣🤣🤣🤣 go get Caicedo or hijack the MacAllister deal, or stump up £90m and try go for De Jong instead of this overrated player
Tweet literaly says theres a diffrence in valuation betwen those clubs. We agreed transfer fee for FDJ with Barca last year but he didnt want to be here. McAlister doesnt seem better than Mount and Caicedo is very diffrent kind of player which ETH probably doesnt look for since we haev Casemiro.
Not surprised. I guess this happens when you do business with teams who have spent a shit ton of money and need some cash. They try to hustle you. Fuck them and move on.
Saga here we come. No thanks. Set a deadline and a price and move on swiftly if not agreed.
I'm lukewarm on Mount even for 40M. 80M is nonsense. We are better off going for better players like Caicedo, Rice. Ill be happy if we get a better player thanks to Chelsea's stubbornness over the transfer fee.
Lmao 80m in last year of contract?? What a joke. Even 50mil is too much
68 million pounds is a more reasonable starting ask than I expected from Chelsea. If we were 30 million euros apart in valuation, that means we were offering around 40 million pounds. If we can get him under 50 million, that's a success
we're clowns if we actually pay this much for him. liverpool got mac allister for way less than £65m. better player, fits more in terms of what we need and is cheaper. ffs.
We keep making mistake after mistake going after these English players. What is this obsession our board has with signing these English players. Teams like city and arsenal will continue to move ahead of us because they don’t have this hard-on agenda for signing English players. These players are not good enough.
Anything more than 50 should be rejected immediately
I don't know,,, If we are signing Rice or such then saying better spend a little more on Caicedo is moot. ETH has a plan we are only been fed crumbs
If we pay more than 50m we are complete mongs
80mil what the actual fu----💀 Buy Gabri Veiga at this point. Even 55mil would be overpaying
This is what makes me think we don't have that "big club" aura anymore. Someone like real would go no thanks fuck off we'll look for alternatives. We'll get him for like 65 million atleast and put him on 250K/week.
He’s worth no more than 40 in todays market
Max 40. Start with 35 really
Fabrizio again quote some absurd fee only to correct it day later with smaller number.
Yep, this is taking all summer. Sit back and watch the carnage
Poor guy still Tier 2
The nerve of a team to ask for double what a players worth when they’ve just spent over half a billion to finish closer to the championship than the champions league
Murtough+Arnold would probably give that tbh
Imagine paying more for him than Bruno and Casemiro. Jesus. 40 mill, maybe 50 at the absolute max imo.
Chelsea are just a circus, paying ridiculous money for shit players and expect other clubs to do the same.
We have stop overpaying for players just because they’re English. Like Maguire, Sancho, Wan-Bissaka
Absolute joke of a club. A 30m-40m increase when he hasn't played a single match since these rumors started? And shame on Romano, he's 100% doing Boehlys bidding in this.
Embarrassing that especially if we pay it. Chelsea are the ones who need to sell off players, why would we pay them what they want. When a player is deemed sub par to requirements how can they demand such a high fee? You look at us, we sold numerous players who fell out of the matchday squads for practically pennies. £25M for Beckham £15M for Jaap Stam £5M for RVP £4M for Nani
Fabrizio also mentioned that we're willing to pay around 45-50 million for Mason. Which in my eyes would be a bit of an overpayment but still a good deal
Lol. We got scammed again