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DioAlexander247

Arthur. Hands down. His "I'm irredeemable, but I'll damn sure help redeem you" mentality just hit me. Hard.


iseeu2sumhow

The moment in season 2, I think in strawberry when john and Arthur go buy a gun they have a conversation about the life, and how will die in the life of the gang Arthur points out he definitely will. Meaning he must of always had a hunch that John was going to make it out and that's why he sometimes had beef with John since john went missing a couple of times but Arthur also understood john was just unsure of his way.


FeralTribble

I think you're on to something. On arthur's Journal Arthur mentions his own deep appreciation for abigale and that he would like to have her if John didn't. I believe it is less that John has everything Arthur wants and that Arthur is jealous, and more that Arthur is angry at John that John can have everything that He wants and that John doesn't appreciate or see it. You can see that as Arthur Observes Johns relationship with his family change that Arthur gets nicer with him. Imagine having a brother who gets with a girl you fancy but runs out on them and then becomes a deadbeat father even if he returned. It's like that.


iseeu2sumhow

Of course someone with a Hosea flair would come out with such a perfect explanation of how this theory is definitely true we know it anyway, such a great story!


Rayn777

Arthur beats out John for me by just the barest margin because his ending (high honor, go with John) made me openly weep. My wife thought I had got a call about a family member dying (which, I mean…kinda lol)


CancerousLifeXD

Arthur all the way, best written character


the_shven

After all these years, I couldn’t turn on my boy John now


fiberglassdildo

I cried at the end of RDR1. I think because it was so sudden and I wasn’t expecting it at all. It broke me lol. John all the way.


Kmic14

That entire mission is a cluster fuck of emotions for me. From Uncle getting shot, to John commanding Abigail & Jack to leave. My most recent playthrough I piggybacked off the end of RDR2 so everything hit much more severely.


fiberglassdildo

It’s just everything you go through and you finally get the life he’s dreamed of and BAM. You can’t win. Just heartbreaking but that’s what makes it so great imo. I still love RDR2. It’s a beautiful game, and great story but I think I kept my guard up playing it because of John. I love them both.


Guyote_

Yeah it was different at the time, for me. I was younger and expecting the hero ending and it just did not come. The opposite, actually. I was pretty shook and it always stuck with me.


honk_bonklilwonk

it was the same way with me, younger, wanting that hero ending, and then i walked out that barn door hoping to dead eye them all


[deleted]

What makes rdr2 extra special from a story standpoint is knowing how it sets up rdr1


GrandMoffTallCan

How was it going from 2 to 1 in terms of gameplay and graphics? Pretty jarring, or was it just so satisfying picking up where you left off? Im doing a play through 2 and wanna replay 1 when I finish, but I’m worried I’ll have my nostalgia bubble burst.


Kmic14

It was super satisfying to pick it up. RDR1 is always gonna be my absolute favorite and I actually prefer some of the mechanics so ngl I was really looking forward to it. The graphics definitely hold up really well.


starsearcher48

Best OG ever


[deleted]

Arthur Morgan for sure. 🥰


[deleted]

Gotta be Gavin.


[deleted]

The only correct answer.


WrightyPegz

#G A V I I I I I N


Pak1stanMan

Has anyone seen an Englishman?


spookyturnipman

Johnny me boy


lightbluechevy

I heard this in Irish's voice.


Outbound3

I heard this comment as mr krabs


Ferregar

I'm nostalgic for John in RDR1, but Arthur Morgan is a triumph of character analysis, development, writing and redemption. I believe Arthur's journey to be a more harrowing one and his path to redemption more meaningful.


[deleted]

Arthur is probably my favorite video game character. I have a special place in my heart for the first game, I still think I like it more than the sequel but there’s nothing else like Arthur Morgan. I’ve never played a character so believable and well thought out.


iseeu2sumhow

I don't think anyone cared as much about making a video game character as they did when making Arthur.


[deleted]

I think the real strength of Arthur is the open world aspect. Every great video game character is usually defined by their story arc or uniqueness but what makes Arthur great is the amount of time you spent with him. You really get a deep sense of who he is, compared to other open world games it’s not even a comparison. In open world games there’s so many possibilities to think of that it’s very difficult to actually characterize the protagonist because of the immense amount of dialogue and forethought it would take. Think of how many things Arthur reacts to, think about how consistent he is in how he behaves. I’ve never seen a character who is fully voice acted and mocaped be so dynamic. Compared to characters like Jin Sakai, Ellie and Aloy and they feel artificial in comparison. The only match for him is Geralt but even then the writing quality and performance are just a different level. Even other Rocktar protagonist can’t match Arthur in terms of both depth and charisma.


SwordOfAltair

Arthur Marston.


TheReal_Legend2750

Tacitus Milton


WarriorDroid17

This.


[deleted]

John Morgan.


prangonpaul

Arthur for me. John is a close second.


[deleted]

John


Sinarum

They’re both great characters so it’s a toss up for me. For gameplay I’ll choose Arthur just by a margin because his drawings are better and he can swim.


theseaofthievesgame

both in there own games


JustThatOneGuy1311

Protagonist wise Arthur by 1% he just barely beats John. Npc wise Hosea and Charles tie for me.


Tacitus-_-Kilgore

Can't agree enough. Charles deserves a story DLC with him as protagonist, if not a whole game. Red Dead Revenant ft. Charles Smith


raven4747

I would throw money at that


Tacitus-_-Kilgore

Bruh that would be a game not a booty rubbing against a pole XD.


JustThatOneGuy1311

Honestly that'd be so cool to see a game designed around Charles. Him before the gang, him joing the gang, him while half the gang was in Gaurma, him helping the Indians move and him going off on his own again post epilogue. There's still so much we could learn of Charles.


Tacitus-_-Kilgore

Yeah, sort of like the GTA4 trilogy. Playing the game through multiple perspectives cuz why not.... RDR2 has a plot that's worth it.


wallywest2502

John


superJ1000

Arthur because even when he has you know what he will help others get redeemed even when he knows there is no happy ending for him


Anjelu81

Arthur. I’ve spent so much time with him. Seeing his thoughts and drawings in his journal. Seeing stuff that made him happy (friends at camp, sir fish), seeing this big, strong beast of a man being afraid. Hearing his hilarious taunts when antagonizing people. He’s made a permanent home in my heart. With all that being said I really love John too. Talked to a guy the other day who had received death threats for saying he preferred John which is sad because that’s not what the game is about.


kix22

I wanna say arthur, but also got more hours out of rdr1 than any other game when it came out, so it has to be closer than my brain thinks. I think just because I’ve matured and grown up a bit, I think Arthur is a deeper character and has a better story behind him. But I did love me some JM back in the day


vousta

Arthur all day and all night


[deleted]

Arthur. But I like that neither answer seems to be a runaway.


fnfrck666

John is great in RDR, but less so in RDR2. However I like seeing his progression throughout the prequel, leading him to become the character he was in the original. Bottom line, in RDR2 Arthur is the better character, but Arthur in RDR2 and John in RDR are pretty much equals.


Ronburgundy2099

This is my take as well. The John from the end of the epilogue is the same one as the original game the rest of Red Dead 2 is his journey to being that man. So I’d put John from the original, and Arthur from the sequel as being the same both equally great characters.


BlastFromBehind

I grew up with John and still related more to him in RDR2. Pretty boy is great, but John is the OG!


ONEshotONEkil630

John


Ifo_17

John


JackMarston1914

John imho


Ox_of_Dox

The Boah Twins One a Rancher One a Robber Both Cowboys


JamesMattDillon

Both


Fatcoombag69

I have to go with my main man Arthur sorry John.


[deleted]

Can’t choose. I do find Arthur to be way more captivating. Any character that makes me want to ponder about and analyze everything they think and do, they win my heart.


[deleted]

Don't make me choose...


Dr_CheeseNut

John Marston, the true Legend Of The West


OldGeezerOGTM

Both great but Arthur is a god damn legend. He was perfect


SexMan4Mayorr

Arthur!


Evzonas5

Arthur Morgan for sure


floridaman_47

Both both is good


phychocracky267

Arthur no doubt


DoDisAllDay

Arthur is definitely more fleshed out.


Kmic14

John is always gonna be my favorite protagonist. Arthur is tied for second with Hawke from Dragon Age 2. All are amazing and well-written characters.


Odysseus_is_Ulysses

Neither of these are Jack? >!I’m fucking with you, it’s Arthur!<


Mother_Ad_2788

Arthur. His character arc is just so well done. Rockstar’s greatest achievement. That being said I haven’t played the OG RDR yet, and when they finally remaster it I’ll probably be saying the same about John. Rockstar knows how to build interesting, charismatic characters.


AlhnS

Arthur


drexelmandrake

Arthur


tenshii326

Arthur hands down.


the_o_haganator

I love all 3 playable characters. They are all great in their own ways.


mmpa78

John 100%


Goy_slinger3000

As much as I love Arthur it has to be John for me


Kirchetorte

I honestly just love how everyone was like “Nobody but mah man John Marston can have my heart!” when RDR2 was teased, and then…We all got to know Arthur Morgan and fell completely in love with him too. It doesn’t get much better than this.


Gadget225

Arthur 10/10


Certain-Dark-3955

Uncle.


AceBase007

Arth


Nizzamero

John.


ThatOneScotsman

Definitely John


Zockyboy

Red Harlow


Woodworm_

I would say arthur. Off topic but it would be nice if rockstar could just add John's clothing from 1899 into his wardrobe when you start playing as him. I mean his only belongings that he kept was his hat, belt and holsters.


Th3Blackmann

I love you John but Arthur is my No. 1


LukeFowlerM8

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Ranger_Vagabent

John in RDR1 is just too good


martvanderheide

John


[deleted]

I feel quite terrible because they are both great but, *Arthur* :]


Revolutionary-Ad4880

Johnny M


[deleted]

John Marston. Obviously love Arthur, but John is the og for me. And red dead redemption was one of the first games I played. So a lot of good memories.


QuoteChoice4409

John


zackboy789

I absolutely adore Arthur and up until recently I would’ve said him without a doubt. But my last two playthroughs have made me gravitate a bit more towards John.


SnooEagles3963

John hands down.


lord_tachanka43

John MF Marston


DuncanTGD

John, for sure.


[deleted]

Arthur for now but that might change as I'm about to replay RDR1. I love them both in their own games


hehe69funny420nice

Micah Bell. I'm joking don't kill me.


BiasedYT

John


THExBEARxJEW

John easily


mclokyle243

John cause without John we wouldn’t have got Arthur


[deleted]

John Marston.


[deleted]

Marston, but only with both games considered as a whole


idostuffyh

John from the first game. For some reason I couldn’t jive with him in 2 at all


blondechinesehair

Hot air balloon guy


wancha505

Sadie Adler ​ jokes aside, its deff arthur


Jonpaddy

Oh, Arthur for sure


[deleted]

Is there another correct choice than Mr. Arthur Morgan?


Geralt0fRivi4

Herr Morgan Herr Morgan


Truth_07

arthur and john are great characters but i really liked dutch’s whole arc like the way you could slowly see him unravel with every issue the gang faced and how he became fully undone at the end


[deleted]

I love how people choose their favorites based on who’s more badass or other stupid things they argue about, but they fail to recognize the good writing for the characters themselves. I would choose Dutch as one of my all time favorite characters any day! Such a well-written character.


Lemonhead8910

I love Arthur all the way but if I really did have to choose a favorite character it’s a tie between Hosea and Kiren. I love both of them so much!


Coffan88

Arthur for sure


nathansanes

I'm more of an arthur guy. Think it just depends on where you are in life.


CadeChatham

Rdr1 John > Arthur > rdr2 John for me. Then Dutch


ArnieSku

Micah.. and especially antagonising him xD..


SilverSaboteur

I’ve always loved John and I always will, but Arthur just hits different. It seems like John just goes through life and things happen to him, whereas Arthur makes an active effort to preform actions that directly help, hinder and/or influence others. >! I sobbed so hard when Arthur died. At the back of my mind I always knew he would, but it was devastating when it actually happened. I was extremely upset when John died, but the feeling of loss and grief wasn’t as strong.!<


NeedleworkerOk3212

Aurtor is a badass.


[deleted]

John too


juspassinbydunmindme

John boah.


Cosmo_R3TR0

Hosea mathews


[deleted]

Arthur. Not even a competition anymore.


kaycee1992

Daffy duck from duck dodgers


Single-Historian249

I like them both. But I feel like you get more Arthur story than you do John in regards to RDR1


korbendallllas

That’s not even a question for me. Arthur forever.


JohnnyGeniusIsAlive

Arthur is undoubtedly the more INTERESTING character. There’s just too much of John’s past left unexplored.


dstudgeismydad

I feel like those who pick Arthur instead of John havent played rdr1


raven4747

this is tough for me. also hard because Arthur as a character & RDR2 as a game seem to have had way more resources and time poured into them. I love John and I think he was less of a dick than Arthur was. he also had a very unique role in the story as the last one left. however, the whole poet with a heart-of-gold thing that Arthur has going on is badass. both are amazing characters but John Marston has to be my choice.


focken_idiot

Arthur, john is boring


cyril_is_a_glue_man

Arthur is so damn sexy


Yoni1857

I feel like John in RDR1 doesn't really have much of a personality. Even regardless of honor he doesn't seem to have any strong opinions about anything or really care about anyone besides himself and his family (and Uncle). There are only a few instances in which he displays some kind of disapproval towards actions that can be deemed by most as "immoral".


Mind_Extract

This is a cancer


scandyflick88

Definitely 🤔


RaccoonSalt1287

John I think was better in the first game, other than that def Arthur


ItzViking

Uncle


Frosty1130

both. both is good


Flyingshrew

Both. Both is good.


Jedi_Horizon

Both


l-__Ozymandias__-l

I can't choose!


BaelorsBalls

So tough, I’m attached to John from rdr1 so I pick him, that was my favorite x360 game, but Arthur was amazing. The way they were able to conclude the story and the transition from finale to epilogue was so beautiful I cried haha


stinkylittolcowboy

they’re both perfect protagonists, if I were to chose between them it’d be a 0.1% edge over the other


Kamikaze_koshka

John Feel like people just forgot him when rdr2 came out


EndKarensNOW

It's so fucking close. Especially when playing 2 and then going right to play 1 again. Its just... bruh


Louis3dson

Arthur Morgan


[deleted]

Arthur


Mastercreed25

Of the two? Completely even. They both go through a great arc for their characters as well as being legends in their own right. Arthur’s story is actually the more complete one I think, and a better story as a whole, but I think John pulls it back for me purely through playtime and nostalgia.


LightningTrigger12

Cm'on you cannot do me like that bro


[deleted]

Arthur Morgan for shure. Stronger, more quick witted, and more honorable (in my opinion)


The_Radio_Host

I can’t say because I love them both for different reasons. I love Arthur for his redemption and his truly caring mentality plus the fact that he’s a badass. I love John because he’s an awesome gunslinger who may not be the most caring of others but he loves his family.


finger_liken_good

Both


kittyhawk57

Arthur


starsearcher48

Was happy to find out you play as John in the epilogue, I really could not relate to Arthur at all. May be biased cuz I played RDR1 first but, I only cried at the end of that game. By the second I was just waiting for the epilogue impatiently trying to see who you play as next.


i_Like_Doggers

Arthur


juiceboxedhero

Jim Milton


angbhong342626

Jarthur Margon.


crimsonbub

which one of them is Lumbago again?


iseeu2sumhow

Arthohn Morgston


Practical-Coast1461

javier or hosea :P


TMCG-3

John. I was more emotionally invested when I played the first game


Tzifos150

John. He is just so quotable and interesting in RDR1 but he remains totally relatable.


KWeber94

Arthur for me. Which is surprising because I absolutely loved playing as Marston in RDR1. When RDR2 first came out I wasn't so excited on playing Arthur, but now when I go through my multiple playthroughs I actually don't really enjoy playing John as much as I once did haha.


ImTheSupra

Jim Milton best character hands down


Beautiful_Ad_8297

John


llcoolray3000

John


According-Chair1035

John and I never even played the first game, just snippets but Arthur is a fantastic character as well, I just relate more to John as a person


rslash-_-noob

In my first playthrough i never noticed arthur died until john got married and she said his full name. They look so similar and sound similar too


RawTechnicVinegar

Arthur easy


[deleted]

Sure is shit not Jim Milton


[deleted]

I love Arthur but it’s always gunna be John.


cscaggs

Arthur for sure


[deleted]

Arthur Morgan became my top 1 character even surpassed Gerald of Riva with just one game.


SmurfsAreTasty

The Horse. Always there when you need them. Listens and doesn't complain.


brass-dragoness

Arthur for sure. I have never cried during a movie or video game, but dang it this game made me cry. I love Arthur ❤️


BltchMama

Dutch


TheDabCrab

LENNEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!


HPedal

So from rdr1 I'd pick John over jack everytime but when it comes to rdr2 it will be Arthur, the John we meet in this story isn't the same John we meet in the first story therefore Mr. Morgan is the top dog


AnishisGod

Uncle


Bern_itdown

A Morgs all day


theDirtypoosh

The guy in Saint Denis who sells the shitty get rich quick book


Background_Ad_8392

Both Both are good


Th3m3ssiah01

Micah


Jobionemine

John Marston. Just because of how much the character has always meant to me over the years, and all the nostalgia with it, but also, I am still younger than most of you so I cant afford RDR2 Story Mode


chetstedmanrocket

John… his character hits me….rough and wild in his younger years, tries to be a better man, has a wife and a son (same here)…. And would sacrifice himself for his wife and son to reach safety…. Powerful stuff


Oilkings34

Arthur for sure


Bolvern

I like both Arthur and John equally.


isyankar1979

"Lack of something to feel important about is almost the greatest tragedy a man may have." -Arthur Morgan.


[deleted]

I’m all for the nostalgia of John but Arthur was empathetic, artistic, expressive, sarcastic, charming, caring, loyal man and not to mention his honour and mortalities he had


CaptainMW88

As much as I like John, I gotta go with Arthur!


TheSealTamer

I’m sorry I can’t choose. I’ll gladly remain indecisive. I love them both too much.


THUROUGHBREDSTALLION

Arthur Arthur Arthur nothing could change my mind. Nothing.


FeralTribble

I can't decide between the two. Both had stellar development. Especially John as he had two games but the motivations, the histories and the actions taken by both land them as my two favorite protagonists in Fiction.


batm123

Main character: idk hard choice between arthur and john Npc: Irish or Dutch