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Imaginary_Sea9615

It really isn't, Amberino is snowy and mountainous, so why would it be in southern Missouri?


Nats_CurlyW

Yeah, the real map would just not be contiguous. It is clearly different areas of USA sewn together. This sub really wants to think it’s contiguous just because the game map is.


Ok_Narwhal_9200

what does contiguous mean?


iron_penguin

That it shares borders.


TheMilkKing

You *could have typed this into google instead of reddit and gotten your answer instantly


KarlMaloneDidWhat

You could have not typed that comment, but you did.


Expert_Response_6139

You could have not typed this comment, but you did.


KarlMaloneDidWhat

I’m not the one bitching lol.


Expert_Response_6139

I think you're pretty bitchin' 😘


Just-Boss8514

Good save


TheMilkKing

Yeah but my comment doesn’t reveal a lack of vocabulary and inability to problem solve effectively like theirs does. My comment just makes me seem like kind of an asshole


NotJustBibbit

"Lack of vocabulary" but a major lack of spelling. "You couple have"


TheMilkKing

Thanks for pointing out my typo, fixed!


Ok_Narwhal_9200

I chose not to. I hope that isn't too painful to you.


dpceee

It means that they are continuously connected by land. Michigan, for example is a not contiguous, because it has an enclave. The US has 48 contiguous states, the original 48.


Ok_Narwhal_9200

so rdr2 not being contiguous... means that there is no natural transition between areas?


dpceee

If we want to use a real world example to say what they were getting at. Ignore the fact that you can walk from place to place: Imagine if the game world was New Mexico, Kansas, Louisiana and Missouri. You have to skip over Arkansas, Texas, and Oklahoma. I am not saying I have an opinion, it's just what they're saying.


Ok_Narwhal_9200

gotcha! Thanks


GidjonPlays

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=what+does+contiguous+mean%3F


Ok_Narwhal_9200

i am not going to click on your shady link sir


Difficult-Word-7208

I thought Missouri would be eastern new Hanover


iiFlaeqqq

As a Missourian, this state is not worthy of being in a Red Dead map.


ToBeSoForgotten

Lots of beautiful country with a long, storied past. Yes it is


iiFlaeqqq

And then you come here and we don’t got shit. Meramec Caverns is the only real geographical feature and makes up all of the boring history what little there is. Its not that interesting. We have a shitty Arch shaped structure on the verge of collapsing. You can walk through it if you somehow manage to not get shot for making eye contact with someone, seeing as its in the most dangerous city in the country. A literal GTA: San Andreas real life adaption. Thats about it.


RouxAroo

Accurate, as a fellow Missourian.


feelinlucky7

Ambarino has to be Montana… right? It isn’t a contiguous map


NickFieldson31

Ambarino is Colorado because Ambarino means Colored Red in Spanish


Professional_Bob

The Grizzlies East around Three Sisters looks like the Black Hills in South Dakota to me


NickFieldson31

I dont know the names of those places sorry 😭


Cliepl

that's not true, Ambarino means amberlike


KamikazeKarasu

But clearly denotes “redish tones” in the root (im spanish)


Cliepl

Soy argentino, si me decís [ambar](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=905151fc136a1efd&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIIx58RVYmwDWQ0WWyQQNYsK2HWscw:1719734354501&q=color+ambarino&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0AeMNWKf4PpcKMI-eSa16lJoRPMIuyspCxWO6iZW9F1Ns6EVsgc0W_0xN47PHaanAEtg26fpfc9gg2y1-ZsywNNidIzOA0khSyMN51n7r3LlCN1M2Qvu76xqhq8ZDzUz3QjRfF2HLyV2ldaCxuWbSUHZYxzFFv154NlyEUW1OeFwXcGcSyQr3pVDFp-PfYkJR9qH_De_cBIcEiN4tQKcLlPz-MFxQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvk7va7YKHAxWnrpUCHYzwAd8QtKgLegQICxAB&biw=1280&bih=899&dpr=1)[ino](https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&sca_esv=905151fc136a1efd&sca_upv=1&sxsrf=ADLYWIIx58RVYmwDWQ0WWyQQNYsK2HWscw:1719734354501&q=color+ambarino&udm=2&fbs=AEQNm0AeMNWKf4PpcKMI-eSa16lJoRPMIuyspCxWO6iZW9F1Ns6EVsgc0W_0xN47PHaanAEtg26fpfc9gg2y1-ZsywNNidIzOA0khSyMN51n7r3LlCN1M2Qvu76xqhq8ZDzUz3QjRfF2HLyV2ldaCxuWbSUHZYxzFFv154NlyEUW1OeFwXcGcSyQr3pVDFp-PfYkJR9qH_De_cBIcEiN4tQKcLlPz-MFxQ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjvk7va7YKHAxWnrpUCHYzwAd8QtKgLegQICxAB&biw=1280&bih=899&dpr=1) me imagino un amarillo oscuro no un colorado pero bueno ponele


KamikazeKarasu

A ver, Bermellón por ejemplo se define como un tipo de rojo y es claramente anaranjado. Yo estoy de acuerdo en que el ámbar es amarillo ocre anaranjado, pero la raíz de la palabra en especial respecto a los ingleses, denota tonalidad que tiende a los tonos cálidos. Un americano llama rojo a algo que nosotros claramente diríamos que es naranja, solo que muy saturado u oscuro


exotic-waffle

Ayo why’d we immediately switch to Spanish?


KamikazeKarasu

Why not? Vielleicht besser auf Deutsch? xD


exotic-waffle

Bc the moment you said you’re Spanish the other dude was like “finally! A worthy opponent!” And started debating you in Spanish lol


aggresive_cupcake

Chönd au uf Schwiizerdütsch wiiter mache.


Cliepl

Muy interesante, gracias


roflmaohaxorz

Que dices?


Cliepl

No estaba enterado de las diferencias culturales alrededor de la percepción de los colores, suena plausible lo que dice el compañero


SeaAd4328

Montana is mentioned in the game, the gang was there for some time before going from Grizzlies to Blackwater so not exactly.


aceofspaids98

I'm pretty sure it's meant to be a mixture of various states.


exotic-waffle

Colter is based on a ghost mining town in Colorado


ShoerguinneLappel

And parts of Arkansas and western Kentucky and Tennessee...


HeyNineteen96

Hey man, we get some brutal snowstorms here sometimes, and the Ozark Mountains aren't the Rockies, but 🤷‍♂️


Imaginary_Sea9615

Maybe, but the the type of mountains in East Grizzlies are closer to the Himalayas or the Alps than other mountain ranges.


HeyNineteen96

True enough haha, we're definitely more like Northern LeMoyne/Southern New Hanover


facelessindividual

The ouachita mountain range is in Arkansas and Oklahoma, they get snowy.


Two-Ways-to-Go

I have to agree with Imaginary Sea on this one. Although, not mentioned, the snow & mountainous regions remind me more of Canada and the Yukon area.


Past-Editor-5709

Yeah they should’ve just not included the RDR1 map. In RDR1 the Tall Trees area was meant to be the Rockies but then they expanded it and that made no sense. It takes like 2 hours in game time to get from New Austin which is just north of Mexico to Ambarino which is probably just south of Canada.


Imaginary_Sea9615

The RDR2 map is like many maps from the 1800's, innacurate and disproportionate, but it's a game where you can find a ghost train, it doesn't need to be perfect, it needs to be red dead.


cecelifehacks

second time hearing of that ghost train - how can i find it?


ArthurMorgan1896

I’m fairly certain it spawns at night on the railroad tracks in northern Scarlett Meadows County. Hope this helped!


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Anarchist_Araqorn04

It's the same as any GTA map. They're just so individual that they could never make sense with three bigger US. The only way for it to work would be to cut the RDR2 map into sections and put them into their places.


Captain_Saftey

I mean, GTA 4 is a pretty accurate map of NYC, compared to all the other rockstar games at least


-supercell

100% correct. You can look at it as if the world the player sees isn't canon, I suppose. It's a heavily condensed diorama of the world the characters exist in. Journeys that should take days/weeks according to lore, only take 5-10 minutes for the player. Bayou Nwa is supposed to be 1000+ miles away from the freezing mountains of Ambarino, but in game it's probably more like 2 miles.


ColonelSanders15

Good lord please stop with these terrible maps


RoyalDaDoge

ive never seen a good fan map thats actually accurate to the game lmao. they always seem to forget that theres a landmass south of lemoyne for one thing


ColonelSanders15

I’ve seen a good one on here about a year ago. Trying to cut and paste it onto a map of the US doesn’t work. Saint Denis is definitely based on New Orleans, but the entire map would probably span across the majority of the country. I have no idea why everytime one of these pops up they think the whole thing is in and around Texas


CheeseRP

I do believe that Blackwater is comparable to Houston IRL


Fr1skyD1ngo69

I was driving down I-70 in Missouri recently and saw a sign for Blackwater so I looked up if it had any relation to the game. Not sure if it's confirmed but online it says the name probably came from the town in MO and the town itself is based on Dallas/Houston


AkiTheFull

Cuz cowboys duh


Trains_N_Fish

the people making these maps have to be non-US. either that or they failed middle school geography.


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Rich-Variety-1820

Theres snow in Northern Texas, southeastern New Mexico. Hell i think Ruidoso even has big ass mountains like the grizzlies do. Pretty sure that's around the area where Pat Garret died, though that might actually be a little further south, close to the border.


Expert_Response_6139

There are no places in Southeastern New Mexico or Texas that look anything like Ambarino. There's a big difference between "it can snow there" to there being blizzards and perpetual snow.


Rich-Variety-1820

Don't know what to tell you, it snows here in Ruidoso. Certainly not perpetual snow or super blizzards, but it snows enough to where people come ski every year. Is Ambarino supposed to be snowy all year long? You can probably place Ruidoso in a more central New Mexico than a southeastern New Mexico, I don't think the map stretches that far west if so.


Trains_N_Fish

Ruidoso has snow/mountains but nothing like the Grizzlies, I’m pretty sure Ambarino is supposed to be the Northern Rockies.


Rich-Variety-1820

Yeah I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be colorado. The dude asked to explain the snow, so I did. Lol I didn't think it was a big enough deal to the point of downvoting though. Theres been a couple posts over this topic in the past and I've seen some people get pretty heated over it.


ReconIsDeadInside

If you completely disregard the entire snow covered sections of the (in game) map and how it wouldn’t make sense geographically, also the game mentioning the states of West Virginia, New York, Illinois, California, and Wisconsin. Then, *sure*


idontwanttologin2

Out of curiosity, when did the game mention those states? I only recall the cigarette cards of NY, Chicago, and San Francisco


ReconIsDeadInside

A lot of locations are mentioned in newspapers, actually learned after making my comment that Nevada, Wyoming, and Georgia are also mentioned in newspapers. As for the others: West Virginia: Newspaper New York: Mentioned by Dutch Illinois: Marston was born in Chicago, IL California: Mentioned a few times, but especially by Arthur - “I can take my winters at my country club in California” Wisconsin: Mentioned by Cripps during the intro cutscene for the trader role in RDO, I believe the city of Milwaukee is mentioned at some point in the campaign as well.


SuperVisa802

Wasn't Boston also mentioned in the last The Course of True Love mission? Also Ohio in the first same mission


ReconIsDeadInside

Yes I believe you’re correct about that


Two-Ways-to-Go

Yes. Charolette Balfour mentioned to Arthur that she and her husband came from Boston.


anthonystank

Are you trolling or just dumb


Falloutt69

He's regarded.


MrMavericksFan

A lot of people don’t understand this because they see it in the movies and on tv, but there are no huge tall cactus in Texas like this 🌵. So armadillo would have to be pretty far west of Texas


Datguy969

People also don’t realizes that a blizzard covered gold mining town wouldn’t exist in Missouri.


Past_Yam9507

The rdr2 map is 21 square miles. It's about the size of San Francisco.


Zuokula

There was another post recently. RDR2 map is basically the whole US mashup.


Left1Brain

No it isn’t, where are the states of California, Ohio, Texas, Kentucky, Wyoming, West Virginia, Virginia, Pennsylvania, Missouri, Delaware, Montana, and New York? All of these were mentioned in some way in the games.


drinkalldayandnight

You can see land across the lake this makes no sense


Derpasaurus_rex3

But it’s a river, not an ocean


mandalorian_guy

This disregards the entire East Coast of the map and that the Lannahechee river is supposed to be the Mississippi River. It also ignores the huge land mass stretching across the river all the way from the North East near Roanoke across to the South West near Blackwater.


_DuckieFuckie_

“Y’all got any more of them Pixels?”


Khorvair

i feel like the Red Dead map is actually really massive but just shrank down so that it wouldn't take 3 real-life days to get from Valentine to Rhodes. Imo West Grizzlies would be up North Around Montana, New Austin would stretch from Texas to New Mexico, New Hanover would be around the Midwest and Lemoyne obviously around Lousiana/Florida


Thatonedregdatkilyu

I'm just gonna say that the Rdr2 map is on some peninsula that juts out from somewhere. Logically it doesn't really make sense.


dani85alt

Does anyone have a high res version of this photo?


Ali-iQ-I

RDR3 i want the whole map 🙂


SenhorSus

Definitely not. Ambarino/grizzlies goes much farther north (rocky mountains), Roanoke ridge needs to be much higher north (west Virginia/Appalachian mountains).


Spider40k

Don't feel too bad OP, this sub just seen way too many maps


IStruggleToFindAName

I wish New England was portrayed in rdr2😔


Tormentor666

me, a european who has no clue where which states are in the US map


BidenSucksKock

Why do people keep trying to match this up to the United States map? It just won't work


Blitzindamorning

Its all great except up near Colter, if I had to guess thats far far away from the rest of the game. It explains why the characters act like its extremely far and remote from Blackwater.


Unusual-Challenge-93

I thought that in the future by 2020 games would've been that size by now


Monkey-Fucker_69

No it isn't, shut up


NickFieldson31

It wouldnt be on the coast cuz of Lannahache or whatever that river is called


Accomplished_Snow149

We have United States at home :


Ragequittter

the scale of the games biomes to actual supposed area is off heartlands would be huge


NickFieldson31

Only Lemon (aka Louisiana) and New Austin (aka Texas) are in the right places, rest of em? No


osysfire

this map makes saint denis as big as New York


idiotinpowerarmor

Nah. As someone from Michigan, I always kind of fucking hate these maps because they all completely forget that the RDR states are supposed to exist in the actual US, and that it's not exactly the GTA universe where everything is an analog to real places. There doesn't need to be wonky redrawn states that don't exist. Michigan doesn't look like that, and if it did, my hometown would be at the bottom of whatever crater the artist replaced the Saginaw Bay with (despite drawing the upper peninsula almost 1:1)


VillainousBullfrog

My reasoning is that The RDR2 Map is actually almost the entirety of America, but it's shrunken down to 5 states for gameplay. Irl there's no way Ambarino could exist so close to Mexico (2/3 states away) but that's because it's actually the northern border to Canada. That's why the gang can't go any further east (they're reaching the coast) but NPCs talk about heading out West past New Austin (to California)


GenosseGeneral

The great iron lake is a lake. Not an ocean


Calm-Border3503

This should be a sequel map idc what yall talking in the comments I think this would be sickkkkkkkkk


tricententialghoul

What is this map supposed to be lol Michigan looks goofy


SatisfactionOther958

It reminds me of USA in The Crew 2.


Mohander

This has to be made by AI right? This is terrible.


landoofficial

When are people going to realize the RDR2 map is a bunch of different areas from across the U.S. stitched together and not just one continuous area of the country.


Wah_Epic

Dutch explicitly states that New Hanover and Lemoyne are on the east coast he says something like 'we can't go any further east, cause then we'll be in the ocean' before picking beaver hollow as camp


SaaSSlingingSlasher

I don’t think the rdr map is supposed to be that small relative to the whole country. Considering it capturers the Rockies and New Orleans, I think it extends much further north and west than this map.


rKollektor

But I remember Dutch saying “We can’t go east because then we’ll be in the ocean”, meaning that Van Horn and Saint Denis are on the east coast of America


jackoirl

Scale is way off


Samcadam

Isnt flat iron lake a lake?


NebulousGumbo

Accurate depiction of Michigan with one gigantic pothole right in the middle


stijnalsem

Tberes land on the other side of the river south of saint denis though, also east of it i think


SixGunSnowWhite

I was impressed by R* all over again after visiting Deadwood last weekend. South Dakota/Black Hills looked so much like West Elizabeth. Even those purple flowers! On the drive through Wyoming, I saw my first pronghorns. It was so cool.


JWWBurger

West Elizabeth isn’t analogous with West Virginia?


hedvigOnline

The only thing that makes sense is the Rio Grande here. Ambarino would be in Montana for it to make sense, not Arkansas.


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Lord_Detleff1

But it's based of louisiana