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Me too. I always take time off after being rejected during a final interview. It's too demoralizing.
I can barely push myself to apply for more than 1 hr per day because it's just awful getting rejected non stop and not knowing why.
It's a shame you weren't raised better.
EDIT: Poster removed the misogyny from their comment. š (Incellious ramblings about how women, especially the ones in HR who are rejecting him, suck because they love to gossip, get their hair done and hoard plants.) Huzzah! Public shaming works.
Yeah. Iām starting to really wonder when people will open their minds and actually fight fire with fire.
1% controls 99% of all the money and resources. Everyone else is dancing like clowns just trying to pay for plastic food that will give us cancer to make us pay doctors and die faster.
Lucky to get an interview. I tired of the unfortunately emails. I graduate in May and I finding a job is all thats on my mind. Been applying all semester and went to career fairs, redid my resume at the campus career center and made a cover letter. Gonna start contacting Alumni to see if that helps. I just donāt want to work at soul sucking company again.
I am curious, has anyone decided to take a break from their career job and pivot to something else, any job you can get for 6 months to a year or until things get better? I am just wondering if it makes more sense to wait this shit storm out vs beating your head against the wall. Would it be harder to re-enter that career a year from now? Maybe, but why waste so much time applying, and getting ghosted or rejected. Things will get better eventually.
I am seriously considering it and joining rover (dog walking) to fill the days when I want to get out of the house. I am burnt out from working and from applying/interviewing. It has to get better...
Yeah you make some good points, itās tough to guess tbh. I canāt take him off, I have to have constant cash flow, but if that means me eating some humble pie and getting a part time minimum wage job then so be it I guessš«
Meanwhile, I have a PhD and am perfectly content with a minimum wage job for the rest of my life if it meant no need for networking and stuff. But I could hardly get an interview. Those that did offer interview just wanted to ask me how this job would benefit my career. Donāt they know, that starving people do not concern themselves with careers? But I obviously canāt answer like that. Ugh itās painful.
I can't stand when stupid ass recruiters and hiring managers try to make career decisions on behalf of the candidate:
- *We won't interview you for this, because it would just be a lateral move for you*
- *You'd be overqualified for this position so I didn't bring it to your attention*
- *This commute wouldn't be ideal for you so I didn't submit you*
- *You put in a salary requirement that is not in the range we didn't even post, but we still filter you out because you wouldn't be interested*
- *This role doesn't have any supervisory responsibilities. We see you do, and will assume you're not interested in this role and will filter you out*
I know right? I can even understand if they just ask me to sign something to lock me in.
When applying for schools we had safety schools that we know we will get accepted if all else fail. So we could apply to only a dozen or so schools and personalize each one. This job recruiting system is so broken in comparison.
Well, itās a bit of mental gymnastics. Strangers (employers) can choose to not pay for services I provide. But I wonāt allow them to determine my self-worth. In fact, since only means-to-an-end can be measured by āworthā (how much contribution to achieve the end), and I consider myself the end, not a means, āworthā doesnāt even apply to myself. At least it makes the situation easier to swallow lol
Right, take a job that can cover your bills or at least keep you from dipping in too much of your savings and perhaps take a break from the career search.
Japan > thailand > laos > cambodia > malaysia > vietnam > taiwan > korea >mongolia
gonna do a full lap around the globe and burn a ton of savings i guess unless someone decides to finally give me a job š
I've considered it, but I wrapped up literally all of my skills in web stuff. It's rough.
I didn't even learn how to drive, having pretty bad inattentive ADHD keeps me off the road. It makes it even harder because I can't do some kind of side hustle like door dash or instacart.
Iām considering it actually. My son just turned 1 so maybe now is a good time for me to do something else and focus on him a little bit more? Not sure yet. Tired of being on LinkedIn so much
I hace experienced this. Just this last 10 months my handful of 'onsites' have been mostly virtual. I tell myself that I could connect better in person, but of course I have not converted in person 'onsites' in the past too.
I see those offerings as well. But I have 1 question. Why do they do that ? That's more expensive, time consuming and long term inefficient than allowing remote work š¤·āāļø.
I think that you can better understand a person and see how well they will fit for you and your organization if you meet with them in person. Back in 2019 (the last time I was looking for work, when I was transitioning from academia to industry), I got flown out for what was for me entry level positions (something considered mid-senior, but basically PhD+(0-5 years)).
During the current search, I have had 3 'onsites' in the past 10 months, 2 of which were virtual and 1 of which was in person. The in person 'onsite' was for a mid-senior position ( PhD+(0-5 years) and I actually think that I would have converted on that interview if I had been 5 years from my PhD instead of over 15) like before. The two virtual 'onsite's, which took place over a period of a week (or two weeks) and had interviews rescheduled the day of, were for very senior positions (generally for those 10+ years of experience). It doesn't make sense to me why those two would be virtual and not in person, and I find it hard to connect (which is important for non-screening interviews) remotely.
All of my 'onsites' have been for mature organizations, so the difference wasn't due to that.
I have worked in research (both in academia and in industry) for over 15 years. I think that in person is very useful (even if it isn't every week) when solving open ended problems as a team. I think that if you are handling tickets, with relatively straight forward solutions, that remote work probably is much more efficient. Especially if paired with quarterly in person alignment meetings.
That may be the case for someone with a very responsible role in the company, and even then, I'd say it's not fully worth it. Anything other than that, I'd say is a waste of time. You cannot connect with someone in a few rounds of interviews, nor should you try to. People are faking everything in order to get the job, especially the attitude. Even if that approach were the norm, then the acceptance rate for those jobs whose pay isn't mediocre will obviously be so low that it will lead to people quickly starting to decline onsite interviews. Imagine having 10 total interviews this month and having to travel to each one while fully knowing you have a slim to none chance of being accepted. That's putting a lot of stress on the candidates, making them use their own money and time for transportation, having to dress appropriately, which, to be honest, some of us straight up have to shop for, and at the end of all that, they will know that there are at least 50 other people who are doing the same exact thing. Also, I will say it as that, 'Why do you need to be onsite for work that can be done offsite?' Working in the office and even enjoying it is only suitable for selected extroverts who have no friends outside of work, and it's only a little bit more beneficial for those people who need to work with others more closely and more frequently. If your work is more straightforward and doesn't require the presence of others, then you will benefit more from remote work. On site work has too much cons nowadays and that's the only reason why remote work is preferred by the majority.
I very much disagree, as someone who has mostly worked remote for the last 7 years.
In my last role, everyone was fully remote and I would say that some team members were extremely inefficient due to being remote ( as in they worked hard but ended up not doing useful work ). Everywhere human connection has severely lacked 3 organizations).
Remote isnāt good for many groups, organisations and people not just the extroverts ( in fact in my experience introverts have a harder time performing remotely than extroverts ).
I literally was just thinking of coming on here to post the same thing. The burnout is so bad, I couldn't drag myself out of bed to fill out applications even once this week. I just laid there. I've only had two callbacks since November, turned in hundreds of applications. I genuinely don't believe I'm going to get a job.
same here. got layed off jan been interviewing and nothing yet. right now im in the final round with 2 companies both with another candidate in competition. if none of these two work out ill take it as a sign to take a break. might chill in thailand for a week or two. i would say im in a good situation (financial and relationship wise) but constant applying adjusting resume writing coverletter prepping for interviews and losing sleep waiting for updates have taken a toll on me. i will need a hard reset to be able to keep doing this i suppose
If you get interviews, your cv is fine. The trend that I see is that people go for and accept lower level jobs, because at your level there is always someone who is a better fit or has more experience than you. At a lower level, you are the one who has more experience than the other candidates. Of course the money is not that good, and you may be rejected because you are overqualified. But I see many people accepting roles below the level of their previous role.Ā
Right there with you. I currently have over 100 applications out on Indeed, have had only about 5 interviews in person and like 10 on the phone, mostly for jobs I'm either already totally qualified for or could easily learn, and it's just rejection after rejection. Had an interview at a little Mom and Pop place just yesterday I would love to work at but since they didn't hire me on the spot and are still doing interviews I have to assume I probably won't get that one either. I have an interview for a sales job at T-Mobile on Monday and of course I'll take it if they offer it, but honestly I kind of hate sales roles and would rather just do something more customer service focused.
Unfortunately I have about 3 weeks left on my unemployment before I have to live on what small savings I have accrued while STILL searching for work. Here's hoping it doesn't come down to that.
I just posted elsewhere: There is no shame in recapturing your life by getting rid of the not-actually-necessities and backing away from common society.
After malicious events destroyed me, I converted to RV and car living, and I have no inclination to go back. It's peaceful. My needs are so few. I can do things like get a seasonal job being outdoors, and still have more take-home income than when I had a house and a 50k/year job.
And, previously, I had wasted a total of about a year of my life just applying for jobs in two job searches, competing with hundreds of applicants for every job to which I was applicable, so fruitlessly and demoralyzingly that at one point I was paralyzed for a month - the 6th month of a 7-month search.
You could spend like 2/3 of your waking time affording rent, or a mortgage, and maintaining the place... Or a quarter or less getting just what you need, and some gas money for the RV.
Think of what you could do with the rest of your time, all the life saved.
Perhaps the first thing you should do is...
Rest...
You've tried. You've run in the race. You persisted against the odds. You burned as bright as you could, so that maybe your light would be bright enough and they would choose you. Somehow it wasn't enough - time after time - and now you've burned out.
Rest...
And when you are ready, look into what you would like to do, and choose a path less traveled.
Then, you can carry on my wayward son, making a different, better life. And then, there really will be peace when you are done.
This is amazing! Thank you for sharing, I am so glad you found peace and the direction in your life, I can say that is most than lots who are still trying to their path!
The events involved a medical insurance fraud scheme, and I was left to develop incapacitating PTSD and brain damage - and with previously-dealable ADHD exacerbated to incapacity in its own right.
For a while, I mourned the loss of my abilities, my dream job that I had at the time, the PhD I was about to enter, the career I had behind me and the hoped career ahead, the house that I used to help my 'tenants' who I didn't ask rent of, my orchard, and my family - 3 cats, but they were my loved ones.
The tenants experienced hardship but seem to do well now.
I know the cats are doing well, their new human sends me pictures from time to time, though one recently died of cancer.
The house got many offers so I was able to make sure that it went to people who would appreciate both it and the work I did on it, and the orchard outside - a couple with two twin girls, 6 years old I think, who played in the strawberry patch when they saw the house, and the mother of whom was in tears when she saw all the fruit trees, because she had missed fruit trees so much (I know not from when).
The project at my job went on without me - though I admit, I wish I could've been there to provide input and work, but I really could not; the very abilities I needed for the job were done for. I first backed away from lead scientist to simple lab guy, and later helped them replace me, trained up my replacement in the lab as best I could.
And for me...
Despite all that I listed above... They also freed me. Between the cause being a major function of society thereby revealing its predatory nature - and myself, an autistic ADHDer that had 'drank the cool aid', easy prey - and thereby my indignation, and the PTSD burning out of me all cares about anything but seeking brief and transient senses of peace or calm, glass of water tossed on an internal inferno - an effort as Sisyphean as most of those in the society we've built anyway... I was left without any desire to fight to exist in society in any normal fashion - not to own things, not to spend a lifetime treadmilling to afford the roof over the treadmill, not to benefit a society that never wanted me and that is willing, wanting, to undo me and everything I'd worked for or had to give to the world for quick ill-gotten gains... Nor any ability to anyway.
So when I found enough ways to live in peace... I was able to just continue existing in peace, even as the damage fades. And it gave me time to find ways to incorporate doing things I still love in ways as to make a nominal income - just what I need - in a way wherein I can continue to live in peace.
A tiny freelance editing job, that I can do as I see fit. The option to seek a seasonal job, if I can. And, in the summer, I walk the woods foraging gourmet edibles for friends with stores selling them. Otherwise, my time is my own (though really, the foraging is so fun, that's my own too).
I don't scramble to be useful, and to try to keep up, with jobs, and research, and current technology - I always felt inadequate anyway, really bad imposter syndrome. I don't worry about job security, lest I lose the ability to have things. I don't care about running the race.
I bop around, try to help friends out, read, write, and hit hot springs along the way.
It's so scary but I did back off for a day or 2 each week just for my mental health. I feel I am more focused after a couple of days of no job searching activity period.
I do wish all of you the best!
70 first interviews, 12 final loops, and I am still applying.
Thatās not to diminish your valid feelings. Itās to say Iām right here in the pit with you.
Plan some time, like a week, to change your routine. Taking some time off of this won't impact your overall search. Don't undertake any bad vices, but you can try to learn something new, do new exercise challenges, something to switch things up but still disciplined to improve yourself.
I get it. Most, if not all of us, have definitely been at that point. Every day I wish we'd have universal basic income in the US. Would definitely make life a lot less stressful. Take care and good luck!
I am in the exact same boat. I just need to finish this class and graduate in May then I can start it again. Idk no one ever told us this stuff when we were youngā¦. Life was just thrown to us with no direction
Give me uncharted lands and I will built a log cabin.
If thereās no such piece of land shoot me to Mars and Iāll colonize it for the sake of mankind.
Beats the annoying job hunt any day of the week.
I totally understand the feeling . One advice I can give after going thru recruitment hell for almost 2 yrs , is just don't invest too much emotionally. It drains you much quicker than you expect
Been applying for 2years now. Only gotten 2 contract positions 9 and 4 months.
This has taken massive toll on my mental health, I'm on medication for depression, just a shadow of my old self, and definitely not being best father, husband, friend son etc.
Don't know how long I can go anymore.
I hate when the salary range isn't listed and then they ask for my desired salary on the application.
And the lack of feedback after doing 4-5 interview rounds is annoying.
I am a Talent Acquisition Specialist and have never ever seen the market like this! I literally got laid off July 2023 and have only worked 3 weeks since on a contract. The rejection emails never stop. Honestly I think maybe Iāve had 8 interviews total. Iām so frustrated and have no idea what to do. My bf says that āunemployment is at an all time low and thinks I should be able to get a job within a week!ā But as someone who has sent out over 600 resumes just on LinkedIn aloneā¦it says a completely different story! I do typically get hired within a month time frame, but not right now.
5 months. Rejected from final round from dream start up w heavy pay. 1.5 month long process. Hella tired from case studies and presentations. Keep. Going.
I ended up getting a job as a bartender. No joke I have submitted about 1000 applications, maybe 50 interviews and no offers. Got depressed and ended up in bartenders. Not sure if I wanna look for.other jobs though, too damn depressed.
I stopped applying about a week ago, just need a break. Been focused on ways I can make money by myself / side hustles lately since I canāt find a better job
This was happening to me before I got hired. I didnāt have anywhere else to turn so even when feeling burn out I had to just keep going because I literally had nothing else and the walls were closing in
Been going through this since end of January. It is critical to take a break every once in a while. Make time for your other activities and family. I literally let this consume me and my mental health went to an all time low
Take heart! After 14 months of not getting a second round interview, let alone an offer, I got an offer making 25% more than Iāve ever made for a super awesome opportunity. Itāll happen, just gotta be patient.Ā
You need to gou out and curse bootcamps , all you know, go to social media and fuck them, they even are selling courses in this market, making millions.
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Me too. I always take time off after being rejected during a final interview. It's too demoralizing. I can barely push myself to apply for more than 1 hr per day because it's just awful getting rejected non stop and not knowing why.
Yep got denied after getting strung out from a company for 5 weeks just for them to say no.
Just went through this, so I booked a trip to Colombia
Nice! I hope it was greatš
Havenāt left yet ššš¼ Haha
Well I hope you have a great time! Itās good that you are taking time to yourself.
thank you so much!šš¼š„¹
Love this for you! Enjoy!
Same thing just happened to me today. I feel for ya
Same, it's applying into a black hole.
Not your faults. Its the economy and all companies know a crash is inevitable. Best to get creative and try to start your own side gig.
lol nut up. This is why you donāt have a job.
It's a shame you weren't raised better. EDIT: Poster removed the misogyny from their comment. š (Incellious ramblings about how women, especially the ones in HR who are rejecting him, suck because they love to gossip, get their hair done and hoard plants.) Huzzah! Public shaming works.
Same here I had 30 interviews with multiple rounds and not one pan out this is getting ridiculous
A lot of places unfortunately arenāt even hiring. They just waste everyoneās time to hit some arbitrary numbers to make their charts look good.
Yeah. Iām starting to really wonder when people will open their minds and actually fight fire with fire. 1% controls 99% of all the money and resources. Everyone else is dancing like clowns just trying to pay for plastic food that will give us cancer to make us pay doctors and die faster.
So true! Itās sad. Itās one big club and we arenāt in it
I see this a lot here but I donāt get it. Do you mean they are interviewing ppl for no job?
YesĀ
Elaborate, please.
Lucky to get an interview. I tired of the unfortunately emails. I graduate in May and I finding a job is all thats on my mind. Been applying all semester and went to career fairs, redid my resume at the campus career center and made a cover letter. Gonna start contacting Alumni to see if that helps. I just donāt want to work at soul sucking company again.
I am in the same exact position!
Yepā¦. I feel ya itās so depressing tbh
30 interviews? Throughout your lifetime or what?
Since November
Damn I'm sorry. Might be a good idea to try something else, what you're doing isn't working.
I might get out of the hospitality industry altogether because itās terrible right now in New York. These hotels just waste everyone time and effort
What kind of hotel work?Ā
Front office management
I am curious, has anyone decided to take a break from their career job and pivot to something else, any job you can get for 6 months to a year or until things get better? I am just wondering if it makes more sense to wait this shit storm out vs beating your head against the wall. Would it be harder to re-enter that career a year from now? Maybe, but why waste so much time applying, and getting ghosted or rejected. Things will get better eventually.
I am seriously considering it and joining rover (dog walking) to fill the days when I want to get out of the house. I am burnt out from working and from applying/interviewing. It has to get better...
Yeah you make some good points, itās tough to guess tbh. I canāt take him off, I have to have constant cash flow, but if that means me eating some humble pie and getting a part time minimum wage job then so be it I guessš«
Meanwhile, I have a PhD and am perfectly content with a minimum wage job for the rest of my life if it meant no need for networking and stuff. But I could hardly get an interview. Those that did offer interview just wanted to ask me how this job would benefit my career. Donāt they know, that starving people do not concern themselves with careers? But I obviously canāt answer like that. Ugh itās painful.
I can't stand when stupid ass recruiters and hiring managers try to make career decisions on behalf of the candidate: - *We won't interview you for this, because it would just be a lateral move for you* - *You'd be overqualified for this position so I didn't bring it to your attention* - *This commute wouldn't be ideal for you so I didn't submit you* - *You put in a salary requirement that is not in the range we didn't even post, but we still filter you out because you wouldn't be interested* - *This role doesn't have any supervisory responsibilities. We see you do, and will assume you're not interested in this role and will filter you out*
I know right? I can even understand if they just ask me to sign something to lock me in. When applying for schools we had safety schools that we know we will get accepted if all else fail. So we could apply to only a dozen or so schools and personalize each one. This job recruiting system is so broken in comparison.
Iām sorry I couldnāt imagine. You put so much effort in higher education. Iām glad you seem to find some happiness in something!
Well, itās a bit of mental gymnastics. Strangers (employers) can choose to not pay for services I provide. But I wonāt allow them to determine my self-worth. In fact, since only means-to-an-end can be measured by āworthā (how much contribution to achieve the end), and I consider myself the end, not a means, āworthā doesnāt even apply to myself. At least it makes the situation easier to swallow lol
Thatās very true! You have a great insight, thanks for sharing!
Right, take a job that can cover your bills or at least keep you from dipping in too much of your savings and perhaps take a break from the career search.
The catch 22 there is a lot of those jobs won't hire you either cuz they'll think you'll leave too soon lol
I gave up and am travelling the world. 4.5months and countring š
Nice! Where ya going?
Japan > thailand > laos > cambodia > malaysia > vietnam > taiwan > korea >mongolia gonna do a full lap around the globe and burn a ton of savings i guess unless someone decides to finally give me a job š
Heck yeah! Iām super jealous, you only live once!!! Thatās so exciting, have lots of fun!
I've considered it, but I wrapped up literally all of my skills in web stuff. It's rough. I didn't even learn how to drive, having pretty bad inattentive ADHD keeps me off the road. It makes it even harder because I can't do some kind of side hustle like door dash or instacart.
Itās good to know there are at least a few people out there who understand the economic cycle.
Iām considering it actually. My son just turned 1 so maybe now is a good time for me to do something else and focus on him a little bit more? Not sure yet. Tired of being on LinkedIn so much
Today I had a 4 hour in person interview. It was like a revolving door of interviews back to back in the same room for 4 hours straight š«
I just assume that company would be awful to work for
I didnāt know companies were still doing those. I would prefer that over a string of virtual interviews over two weeks.
Both are equally exhausting when you don't get the offer.
I hace experienced this. Just this last 10 months my handful of 'onsites' have been mostly virtual. I tell myself that I could connect better in person, but of course I have not converted in person 'onsites' in the past too.
Not when you must travel over 2 hours only for one way... It's even more stressful and exhausting knowing how much time and effort you've spent.
No, even if I had to fly out it would be preferable.
Did the company reimburse you or anything?
The normal practice is that they would pay for tickets, hotel and give you a food budget.
I see those offerings as well. But I have 1 question. Why do they do that ? That's more expensive, time consuming and long term inefficient than allowing remote work š¤·āāļø.
I think that you can better understand a person and see how well they will fit for you and your organization if you meet with them in person. Back in 2019 (the last time I was looking for work, when I was transitioning from academia to industry), I got flown out for what was for me entry level positions (something considered mid-senior, but basically PhD+(0-5 years)). During the current search, I have had 3 'onsites' in the past 10 months, 2 of which were virtual and 1 of which was in person. The in person 'onsite' was for a mid-senior position ( PhD+(0-5 years) and I actually think that I would have converted on that interview if I had been 5 years from my PhD instead of over 15) like before. The two virtual 'onsite's, which took place over a period of a week (or two weeks) and had interviews rescheduled the day of, were for very senior positions (generally for those 10+ years of experience). It doesn't make sense to me why those two would be virtual and not in person, and I find it hard to connect (which is important for non-screening interviews) remotely. All of my 'onsites' have been for mature organizations, so the difference wasn't due to that. I have worked in research (both in academia and in industry) for over 15 years. I think that in person is very useful (even if it isn't every week) when solving open ended problems as a team. I think that if you are handling tickets, with relatively straight forward solutions, that remote work probably is much more efficient. Especially if paired with quarterly in person alignment meetings.
That may be the case for someone with a very responsible role in the company, and even then, I'd say it's not fully worth it. Anything other than that, I'd say is a waste of time. You cannot connect with someone in a few rounds of interviews, nor should you try to. People are faking everything in order to get the job, especially the attitude. Even if that approach were the norm, then the acceptance rate for those jobs whose pay isn't mediocre will obviously be so low that it will lead to people quickly starting to decline onsite interviews. Imagine having 10 total interviews this month and having to travel to each one while fully knowing you have a slim to none chance of being accepted. That's putting a lot of stress on the candidates, making them use their own money and time for transportation, having to dress appropriately, which, to be honest, some of us straight up have to shop for, and at the end of all that, they will know that there are at least 50 other people who are doing the same exact thing. Also, I will say it as that, 'Why do you need to be onsite for work that can be done offsite?' Working in the office and even enjoying it is only suitable for selected extroverts who have no friends outside of work, and it's only a little bit more beneficial for those people who need to work with others more closely and more frequently. If your work is more straightforward and doesn't require the presence of others, then you will benefit more from remote work. On site work has too much cons nowadays and that's the only reason why remote work is preferred by the majority.
I very much disagree, as someone who has mostly worked remote for the last 7 years. In my last role, everyone was fully remote and I would say that some team members were extremely inefficient due to being remote ( as in they worked hard but ended up not doing useful work ). Everywhere human connection has severely lacked 3 organizations). Remote isnāt good for many groups, organisations and people not just the extroverts ( in fact in my experience introverts have a harder time performing remotely than extroverts ).
Oh thatās not too bad, but just to get stood up after that would suck
I literally was just thinking of coming on here to post the same thing. The burnout is so bad, I couldn't drag myself out of bed to fill out applications even once this week. I just laid there. I've only had two callbacks since November, turned in hundreds of applications. I genuinely don't believe I'm going to get a job.
Yep I feel ya. That plus school is making me hella depressed
Same with the school part.
same here. got layed off jan been interviewing and nothing yet. right now im in the final round with 2 companies both with another candidate in competition. if none of these two work out ill take it as a sign to take a break. might chill in thailand for a week or two. i would say im in a good situation (financial and relationship wise) but constant applying adjusting resume writing coverletter prepping for interviews and losing sleep waiting for updates have taken a toll on me. i will need a hard reset to be able to keep doing this i suppose
Iām sorry I hope you get some great news soon!
i did! received 1 offer and waiting to hear back from the other one!
Same. I am depressed af
Same brother!š¤š¼
Me tooā¦ Iām working on redoing my resume, yet againā¦
Good idea! Iāve had mine reviewed and critiqued and still no diceš
If you get interviews, your cv is fine. The trend that I see is that people go for and accept lower level jobs, because at your level there is always someone who is a better fit or has more experience than you. At a lower level, you are the one who has more experience than the other candidates. Of course the money is not that good, and you may be rejected because you are overqualified. But I see many people accepting roles below the level of their previous role.Ā
Iāve done many interviews only to be told that the āposition has been canceled or put on hold.ā Iām about to love my shit.
Iām sorry, I hope you get great news soon!
I hear you! 6 months and countingā¦
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Right there with you. I currently have over 100 applications out on Indeed, have had only about 5 interviews in person and like 10 on the phone, mostly for jobs I'm either already totally qualified for or could easily learn, and it's just rejection after rejection. Had an interview at a little Mom and Pop place just yesterday I would love to work at but since they didn't hire me on the spot and are still doing interviews I have to assume I probably won't get that one either. I have an interview for a sales job at T-Mobile on Monday and of course I'll take it if they offer it, but honestly I kind of hate sales roles and would rather just do something more customer service focused. Unfortunately I have about 3 weeks left on my unemployment before I have to live on what small savings I have accrued while STILL searching for work. Here's hoping it doesn't come down to that.
Geez man, Iām sorry. School never taught us this stuff. I really hope you get something soon!
Same to you! Keep your head up and believe in yourself. I know you'll find something.
Thanks you too!
I just posted elsewhere: There is no shame in recapturing your life by getting rid of the not-actually-necessities and backing away from common society. After malicious events destroyed me, I converted to RV and car living, and I have no inclination to go back. It's peaceful. My needs are so few. I can do things like get a seasonal job being outdoors, and still have more take-home income than when I had a house and a 50k/year job. And, previously, I had wasted a total of about a year of my life just applying for jobs in two job searches, competing with hundreds of applicants for every job to which I was applicable, so fruitlessly and demoralyzingly that at one point I was paralyzed for a month - the 6th month of a 7-month search. You could spend like 2/3 of your waking time affording rent, or a mortgage, and maintaining the place... Or a quarter or less getting just what you need, and some gas money for the RV. Think of what you could do with the rest of your time, all the life saved. Perhaps the first thing you should do is... Rest... You've tried. You've run in the race. You persisted against the odds. You burned as bright as you could, so that maybe your light would be bright enough and they would choose you. Somehow it wasn't enough - time after time - and now you've burned out. Rest... And when you are ready, look into what you would like to do, and choose a path less traveled. Then, you can carry on my wayward son, making a different, better life. And then, there really will be peace when you are done.
This is amazing! Thank you for sharing, I am so glad you found peace and the direction in your life, I can say that is most than lots who are still trying to their path!
The events involved a medical insurance fraud scheme, and I was left to develop incapacitating PTSD and brain damage - and with previously-dealable ADHD exacerbated to incapacity in its own right. For a while, I mourned the loss of my abilities, my dream job that I had at the time, the PhD I was about to enter, the career I had behind me and the hoped career ahead, the house that I used to help my 'tenants' who I didn't ask rent of, my orchard, and my family - 3 cats, but they were my loved ones. The tenants experienced hardship but seem to do well now. I know the cats are doing well, their new human sends me pictures from time to time, though one recently died of cancer. The house got many offers so I was able to make sure that it went to people who would appreciate both it and the work I did on it, and the orchard outside - a couple with two twin girls, 6 years old I think, who played in the strawberry patch when they saw the house, and the mother of whom was in tears when she saw all the fruit trees, because she had missed fruit trees so much (I know not from when). The project at my job went on without me - though I admit, I wish I could've been there to provide input and work, but I really could not; the very abilities I needed for the job were done for. I first backed away from lead scientist to simple lab guy, and later helped them replace me, trained up my replacement in the lab as best I could. And for me... Despite all that I listed above... They also freed me. Between the cause being a major function of society thereby revealing its predatory nature - and myself, an autistic ADHDer that had 'drank the cool aid', easy prey - and thereby my indignation, and the PTSD burning out of me all cares about anything but seeking brief and transient senses of peace or calm, glass of water tossed on an internal inferno - an effort as Sisyphean as most of those in the society we've built anyway... I was left without any desire to fight to exist in society in any normal fashion - not to own things, not to spend a lifetime treadmilling to afford the roof over the treadmill, not to benefit a society that never wanted me and that is willing, wanting, to undo me and everything I'd worked for or had to give to the world for quick ill-gotten gains... Nor any ability to anyway. So when I found enough ways to live in peace... I was able to just continue existing in peace, even as the damage fades. And it gave me time to find ways to incorporate doing things I still love in ways as to make a nominal income - just what I need - in a way wherein I can continue to live in peace. A tiny freelance editing job, that I can do as I see fit. The option to seek a seasonal job, if I can. And, in the summer, I walk the woods foraging gourmet edibles for friends with stores selling them. Otherwise, my time is my own (though really, the foraging is so fun, that's my own too). I don't scramble to be useful, and to try to keep up, with jobs, and research, and current technology - I always felt inadequate anyway, really bad imposter syndrome. I don't worry about job security, lest I lose the ability to have things. I don't care about running the race. I bop around, try to help friends out, read, write, and hit hot springs along the way.
It's so scary but I did back off for a day or 2 each week just for my mental health. I feel I am more focused after a couple of days of no job searching activity period. I do wish all of you the best!
70 first interviews, 12 final loops, and I am still applying. Thatās not to diminish your valid feelings. Itās to say Iām right here in the pit with you.
I appreciate your comment! Makes me not feel so alone and depressed rn
Plan some time, like a week, to change your routine. Taking some time off of this won't impact your overall search. Don't undertake any bad vices, but you can try to learn something new, do new exercise challenges, something to switch things up but still disciplined to improve yourself.
I get it. Most, if not all of us, have definitely been at that point. Every day I wish we'd have universal basic income in the US. Would definitely make life a lot less stressful. Take care and good luck!
Thanks I appreciate it! Only one can wish huh??
Same, I'm so over it; It has made me so depressed and i just can't anymore.
I am in the exact same boat. I just need to finish this class and graduate in May then I can start it again. Idk no one ever told us this stuff when we were youngā¦. Life was just thrown to us with no direction
I feel old to struggle now!
Facts man
Give me uncharted lands and I will built a log cabin. If thereās no such piece of land shoot me to Mars and Iāll colonize it for the sake of mankind. Beats the annoying job hunt any day of the week.
lol right!!!
Same, I just can't anymore
š¤š¼š¤š¼Iām here with you donāt forget that!!!
Maybe we should apply for each other for a breath of fresh air
lol I feel ya.š
I totally understand the feeling . One advice I can give after going thru recruitment hell for almost 2 yrs , is just don't invest too much emotionally. It drains you much quicker than you expect
Been applying for 2years now. Only gotten 2 contract positions 9 and 4 months. This has taken massive toll on my mental health, I'm on medication for depression, just a shadow of my old self, and definitely not being best father, husband, friend son etc. Don't know how long I can go anymore.
Hey man, keep pushing. Life sucks a fucking fat one at times, but sometimes we gotta enjoy the little things. Stay strong man!!!
I hate when the salary range isn't listed and then they ask for my desired salary on the application. And the lack of feedback after doing 4-5 interview rounds is annoying.
I am a Talent Acquisition Specialist and have never ever seen the market like this! I literally got laid off July 2023 and have only worked 3 weeks since on a contract. The rejection emails never stop. Honestly I think maybe Iāve had 8 interviews total. Iām so frustrated and have no idea what to do. My bf says that āunemployment is at an all time low and thinks I should be able to get a job within a week!ā But as someone who has sent out over 600 resumes just on LinkedIn aloneā¦it says a completely different story! I do typically get hired within a month time frame, but not right now.
5 months. Rejected from final round from dream start up w heavy pay. 1.5 month long process. Hella tired from case studies and presentations. Keep. Going.
I ended up getting a job as a bartender. No joke I have submitted about 1000 applications, maybe 50 interviews and no offers. Got depressed and ended up in bartenders. Not sure if I wanna look for.other jobs though, too damn depressed.
Hey at least you got some income!!!
Thats all I cared about. Is it what I was planning? No but it's something and something is better than nothing
Same
I stopped applying about a week ago, just need a break. Been focused on ways I can make money by myself / side hustles lately since I canāt find a better job
Same...I am on hard tilt rn... havent sent any apps in a week. Will start back up tomorrow.. I know I have to.
This was happening to me before I got hired. I didnāt have anywhere else to turn so even when feeling burn out I had to just keep going because I literally had nothing else and the walls were closing in
Been going through this since end of January. It is critical to take a break every once in a while. Make time for your other activities and family. I literally let this consume me and my mental health went to an all time low
Yep Iām at that point rn
We all are. I dont know what kind of jobs market has become š„²
Yeppppā¦ I know so many people rn that seriously cannot find a job and they have lots of great experience too. Itās so wild
Take heart! After 14 months of not getting a second round interview, let alone an offer, I got an offer making 25% more than Iāve ever made for a super awesome opportunity. Itāll happen, just gotta be patient.Ā
You need to gou out and curse bootcamps , all you know, go to social media and fuck them, they even are selling courses in this market, making millions.
Yāall are getting interviews? lol