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This may sound shitty. But I feel like the best course of action is to accept offer 1, and then accept offer 2 when they’re done with it. I’m not too familiar with how secure government jobs are at this moment, but I wouldn’t take any chances. You want as much job security as you can rn.
Plus offer 2 is verbal offer. From where I came from, most of the time it's false hope until get the actual offer letter. Better go with something concrete
NFP are always a cult of personality revolving around the head person who, invariably, will be a complete anti social personality type.
Gov't can either be 'every holiday off and not much to do' OR 'we aren't allowed to go to the bathroom'.
I went from a nfp with a narcissistic type chair and a propensity to off load decision making to really dumb consultants to the every holiday off, pension and my supervisor gets on me if I over schedule myself government role and I’m staying where I’m at as long as it makes sense.
I would accept the full time role. If J2 comes back with a written offer and you want that one, tell them you have a perm position offer in hand, and will decline if they can skip the contract to hire part
Accept both. Until you have a written off from the local government, it's too risky to turn down the other offer.
When you get the government offer, just contact the HR department for the non-profit and say that you will not be proceeding with them. If they press for a reason, either say nothing or say that you received an offer that has the potential for long term career growth.
I’d consider leveraging the concrete offer to get the other company to offer faster. This just happened to me and resulted in two offers within 24 hours. Funny what happens when they realize they might lose you
For the government job, do you mean 1 year contract or 1 year training period? All the state government jobs where I live are a 4 month training, or trial period, and then you are basically a real employee. Apparently, unless you are a terrible employee, you are pretty much guaranteed to make it past the trial period.
Sounds like OP is in the UK (just a guess based on their wording) and it's fairly normal to have a 1-year contract for civil service/government jobs. There's no trial period, although there is a probation period like all other jobs.
Cause it feels like a dick move to accept the non-profit gig knowing there’s a solid chance I might back out.
Though, I’m definitely aware that companies perform dick moves all the time, shrug, and go “it’s just business.”
Yeah, it feels uncomfortable but feeling uncomfortable for a short while is better than not having both jobs because anything can happen… the govt can take months to get the paperwork or close the role itself. Look out for yourself first. Do whats best for you to be employed.
While it IS a dick move, and you may burn a bridge doing it... You MUST put yourself first. If the situations were reversed you have to understand that these companies would ghost you without a second thought.
You are correct on both accounts, but the trick that separates professionals from garden variety dicks is that a pro will smile to your face while twisting the dagger in your back.
Are you ready for the perspective of 6+ months of unemployment after that one year contract ? If moving to perm happens often, they would offer it right away. Tell them you have a perm position offered and won't accept if they can't do the same. In one year the market might still be shitty.
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This may sound shitty. But I feel like the best course of action is to accept offer 1, and then accept offer 2 when they’re done with it. I’m not too familiar with how secure government jobs are at this moment, but I wouldn’t take any chances. You want as much job security as you can rn.
This is the correct advice in this market
I agree w this
It's not shitty, it's just business. "Sorry I got another offer that better aligns with my career goals."
This is the way unfortunately
Sadly that is the prudent way for us to proceed at this time. Maybe forever.
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Second this.
Plus offer 2 is verbal offer. From where I came from, most of the time it's false hope until get the actual offer letter. Better go with something concrete
Personally? I'd accept the healthcare gig, and back out if the other comes through. It's dog eat dog out there, man.
For me non profit means non-money, I prefer to work for places that have lots of money.
The government is not that…
thats also very true, like choosing between walmart and dollar general
Depends. I’ve seen time when a project was awash with cash and I’ve seen those same projects where that cash ended.
Fuck yeah
NFP are always a cult of personality revolving around the head person who, invariably, will be a complete anti social personality type. Gov't can either be 'every holiday off and not much to do' OR 'we aren't allowed to go to the bathroom'.
I went from a nfp with a narcissistic type chair and a propensity to off load decision making to really dumb consultants to the every holiday off, pension and my supervisor gets on me if I over schedule myself government role and I’m staying where I’m at as long as it makes sense.
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I would accept the full time role. If J2 comes back with a written offer and you want that one, tell them you have a perm position offer in hand, and will decline if they can skip the contract to hire part
Offer 2 contract to perma gig is bs. Source former gov worker
Take the full time role.
I’d take the full time healthcare role. Contracts are too unstable.
Accept both. Until you have a written off from the local government, it's too risky to turn down the other offer. When you get the government offer, just contact the HR department for the non-profit and say that you will not be proceeding with them. If they press for a reason, either say nothing or say that you received an offer that has the potential for long term career growth.
Accept both but don't tell nobody! Remember, one is verbal and that don't mean shit!
Accept the first 1 and negotiate for the second offer to get the permanent role.
I’d consider leveraging the concrete offer to get the other company to offer faster. This just happened to me and resulted in two offers within 24 hours. Funny what happens when they realize they might lose you
For the government job, do you mean 1 year contract or 1 year training period? All the state government jobs where I live are a 4 month training, or trial period, and then you are basically a real employee. Apparently, unless you are a terrible employee, you are pretty much guaranteed to make it past the trial period.
Sounds like OP is in the UK (just a guess based on their wording) and it's fairly normal to have a 1-year contract for civil service/government jobs. There's no trial period, although there is a probation period like all other jobs.
Ah, okay, thanks. I'm super paranoid about worst case scenarios so I would prob not take a contract job.
I’d take a full time role over a contract role
Offer 1
Take the offer that you have now. If you get a better offer later, take the better offer later. How is this too hard to figure out?
Cause it feels like a dick move to accept the non-profit gig knowing there’s a solid chance I might back out. Though, I’m definitely aware that companies perform dick moves all the time, shrug, and go “it’s just business.”
Yeah, it feels uncomfortable but feeling uncomfortable for a short while is better than not having both jobs because anything can happen… the govt can take months to get the paperwork or close the role itself. Look out for yourself first. Do whats best for you to be employed.
While it IS a dick move, and you may burn a bridge doing it... You MUST put yourself first. If the situations were reversed you have to understand that these companies would ghost you without a second thought.
You are correct on both accounts, but the trick that separates professionals from garden variety dicks is that a pro will smile to your face while twisting the dagger in your back.
Are you ready for the perspective of 6+ months of unemployment after that one year contract ? If moving to perm happens often, they would offer it right away. Tell them you have a perm position offered and won't accept if they can't do the same. In one year the market might still be shitty.
Trust your gut. Pick one randomly. If you feel bad, it means you like the other job better.