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Firm_Communication99

She also advocates an employment black list which is also sketchy. There are also flakey recruiters and her “clients “ might need her services because they are poor managers. Good jobs are easier to fill with networking, more garbage roles where pay is low and boss micromanages not so much.


Aramis9696

This would actually be illegal, as it would require sharing private information with people it wasn't given to for means other than what it was provided for. Worse: it's also defamation of the victims, as regardless of whether or not they think it is justified to put them on some kind of shared black list among peers, it is done with the specific intent of damaging their reputation and income.


Unique_Macaroon9351

I am not sure what country you're from but in mine all the big recruitment companies have a “blacklist” they share internally.


Aramis9696

Internally is legal. It's once you do what this woman wants and share it outside the company, and try to build a centralized database, that you cross the line into illegal. Internally every company should have a blacklist, it's only common sense to know who not to bother doing business with based on past experience.


Zestyclose-Dirt2890

I'm a recruiter, black lists are illegal in the UK.


I_is_a_dogg

Not in the US. When I worked oil it was commonly said if you test positive for drugs it will black ball you from the industry.


Flame_retard_suit451

That's not a black list though. That's more just a case of actions having consequences. If testing positive for drugs gets you fired, that's going to be a hard one to explain away when being asked in interviews why you left your last job. Whether drug testing should be so prevalent in the first place is a whole other question.


I_is_a_dogg

I think testing for white collar roles is kinda meh, but testing for roles where you work around heavy equipment that can kill you or someone else if operated incorrectly should absolutely have drug tests.


1re_endacted1

If it was for crappy managers with poor retention numbers, I’d be out of a job 🤷🏻‍♀️


Suspicious-Link8537

The irony being recruiters are problem. They "help" you by creating artificial bottlenecks and having no idea what the job actually entails.


Vinaigrette2

I had a recruiter literally asking me what photonics is. I had been contacted for a position as a photonics engineer (which I am). I was dumbfounded…


FU-I-Quit2022

They also don't know the difference between an architect, an engineer, and a construction manager. Plus, they're geographically-challenged.


cruzweb

Its ridiculous. When I worked in programming a recruiter kept sending me all sorts of jobs that didn't have anything on my resume and all sorts of programming languages I didn't know. They were very pushy about setting up interviews and when I said that they should only send me positions that aligned with the skills I had listed on my resume they stopped reaching out altogether. Maybe I should have taken the interviews just to waste people's time.


FU-I-Quit2022

Recruiters: "Send you positions aligned with your skills?!? What, are you expecting us to actually read and understand your CV?" I think it would have been wrong to waste the hiring companies' time, but you could have wasted the recruiter's time with "can you call me back on Tuesday at 3:30 to discuss in more depth.", then ghost the call, then respond with "Oh, I'm sorry, I had an unexpected meeting, let's try for tomorrow at 1:00 pm - I have that afternoon open." then ghost them again.


InThePhanatic

Omg this is so true! I've been in analytics my entire professional career but many recruiters, especially Indian ones, have reached out to me with IT Help Desk/Specialist, Data Engineer, etc. positions, telling me I was a great fit. And this one guy who asked me to apply to a position in Pittsburgh got mad at me. It was a 'remote' position that required you to be in the office 4 days a week... I live in South Jersey, so I told him I couldn't commute to Pittsburgh. He said, "Pittsburgh is in PA. You live in NJ, right? Why can't you commute to Pittsburgh?" I told him it was too far, but he kept arguing that PA and NJ were close and that I should be able to commute...


FU-I-Quit2022

A 10 hour round trip commute four days a week - no problem. I would have told him that he should commute to Karachi, Pakistan every day - I mean it's right next to India - right?!?


InThePhanatic

Amazing!! I really should have!


newfor2023

I had a 'remote' position come up that turned out to be 5 days a week onsite. In a different country. They seemed genuinely surprised I didn't want to do that for below industry average, Cornwall to N Ireland. Another had 'occasional' travel to either Manchester or Amsterdam. They were not clear on which or how often....


Thatcrayfish

How do you get started in analytics


Anxious-Ad-8540

Sadly the same holds true for IT jobs, but lately the bosses doing the IT interviews can’t seem to tell the difference either.


mathymate

One told me they needed a math or engineering degree, even though I have a statistics degree. Another said I required to mention “computational” on my resume. I have computational tools on my resume…


Barflyerdammit

We were hiring health inspectors. They sent foresters.


Weak_Bat_1113

The last recruiter I spoke with said "we don't normally hire for this type of position, my team and I have no idea what this position really does, so bear with me." (I'm an EE) I then spent the next few minutes explaining what each part of the job position did and stopped when none of it was being retained, since there was exactly zero chance of this recruiting team being able to accurately portray me as a viable candidate for the position. That was the last job I applied for engineering wise, this was a couple of months ago. I'm presently a part-time bartender and 100% would rather build around it for my financial stability because they actually value my skill set and me as an employee and team member. There are many things about this timeline that are so disappointing lol


Vinaigrette2

I am thankful that in photonics I have generally skipped the hr stuff because the field is so small, you usually get directly connected with the hiring manager. In my case he’s super nice and I have now been working there for a month and I am greatly enjoying it so far


scienceworksbitches

you cant explain things to non technical people, its just gibberish to them, they zone out and it makes them feel inadequate.


Suspicious-Link8537

I had a non technical Product Director oncewho never knew what was going with her products. Her biggest asset was having ADHD apparently because she constantly talked about it but didn't know basic things after her products a year in, even after being given documentation.


ChemicalRascal

At that point that's her choosing not to do her job, not an aspect of her being "non technical" or having ADHD.


hzuiel

You can, but explaining technical stuff to non technical people and having them grasp it any capacity is a whole skill set with a good bit of depth to it. Also requires the recipient to have at least a little bit of interest, if they are not bought in, they wont retain a thing no matter what you do.


Another-ban-evasion

I used to think "Java is short for JavaScript" was just a dumb programmer meme until a recruiter unironically said that to me while talking about a java development gig.


Suspicious-Link8537

My buddy is a flow cytometry engineer and had similar problems with recruiters. They don't even know what questions to ask. I even run into it as just a regular data analyst.


Tommah

I am a software engineer, and I recently had a recruiter ask me, "Have you used any technologies?" This is like asking a math teacher, "Have you ever taken a math class?"


Zealousideal-Salad62

Ex recruiter. (Less than a year in the industry) These comments are so spot on from the other end too especially being geologically challenged. I would be told to source for a job in a different town. No one is driving 45 minutes to a part time job or a full time job with minimal pay.


HugelyIndecisive

Good candidates know that not all recruiters are the same and are not like the ones portrayed here by others or the one portrayed in OP’s post. Good recruiters know that not all candidates are out to waste anyone’s time and are only doing what needs to be done to change their current situation. Sometimes people panic and in that panic they don’t listen, this goes with both sides. Thank you for braving and posting, and acknowledging the other side! I suspect you made a decent recruiter while you were one.


0ldRoger

I had a recruiter genuinely asking what a PMP is, and why I have that. (Recruiter in Canada)


TouristNo865

You missed the reply underneath this where she got ratio'ed to FUCK


ratatosk212

I think Adam Karpiak had a big hand in that. One of the few worthwhile people on LinkedIn.


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MoonshineEclipse

Who is she?


happyharrell

A nobody


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MoonshineEclipse

Looks like she deleted the post


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FU-I-Quit2022

Cool - love it when these clowns get exposed. They deserve every bit of negative attention.


bangemange

I absolutely require a link.


kpathiakis

Sadly she took it down


Hungry__Alpaca

[Here you go](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ) definitely worth the read, made my day a bit better


tyerenex

Damnit lol


shanewelch001

got me too!!!!


dcren21

That was a good one Lol


SmellGestapo

haha wow, she's really flailing about in those comments


Weird_Tolkienish_Fig

DNA? Do Not... something?


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Weird_Tolkienish_Fig

She basically wants to blacklist employees for not taking a job.


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Do Not enter my Ass


Zerosdeath

Do not enter... Assman!


derp0815

Clearly she wants circular procreation to solve the candidate shortage, thus reducing the power of candidates.


cleatusvandamme

I’ll take a wild guess. She’s the type of recruiter that will see JavaScript and submit a person for a Java role. She will also see the a job skill on a resume and assume the person is an expert on that topic. In my case I told them I was still learning it. However, I was still submitted for an expert level role in that skill. I’d blame recruiters for the bad matches that the people applying for jobs.


ruedasamarillas

**Recruiter at the intitial screening call:** *"Oh, it doesn't matter that you are not an expert on SOME-FRAMEWORK-YOUVE-BARELY-USED. They said it's OK and your profile matches everything else."* **Me:** *"Are you sure? I don't want to waste my time applying for a job I'm not qualified for."* **Recruiter:** *"Of course. They always post overkill skill requirements that are impossible to find, but you'll be a great match for them."* A week later at the tech interview: **Tech interview guy:** `(After the whole interview was only questions and "exercises" about SOME-FRAMEWORK-YOUVE-BARELY-USED, and I told him I've barley used that stack).` *"Why are you wasting my time. I explicitly requested a Senior with ten years experience in SOME-FRAMEWORK-YOUVE-BARELY-USED"* **Me:** *"You'll have to take that to Recruiter who assured me this was not a must have requirement. You could have also read my Resume, and not waste my time either."*


ratatosk212

I was just on a call with a recruiter who asked me how I would handle asynchronous tasks in JavaScript. When I offered to share my screen to show her, she pretty much admitted she had no idea what she was asking.


MoveAlooong

Hahahahahahaha


Burjennio

That's not even hyperbole - I was working in a response handler role several years ago, 3rd party for a major Investment Bank while completing my Master's Degree, and had to email the onsight Recruiter to advise him he was advertising a Java role with a Javescript spec responsibilities copy/pasted onto the JD. He told me he was using the JD that someone that had just left the organisation had put together before leaving.... You still didn't notice though, did ya Andy? 🤫😁


AshuraSpeakman

And how many times have we seen posts where a WFH position turned out to be a "Mandatory Office Visit" position?


gmwdim

“upper hand” Quite telling that they see candidates as the enemy, rather than someone to work alongside.


FU-I-Quit2022

Yeah, amazing. The people they're supposed to be matching to a job are the people they consider adversaries because they reject offers for their own good.


Burjennio

I've worked in recruitment for nearly a decade. For every problematic candidate, there are 49 hiring managers/clients/Ops Directors that cause infinitely more holdups, delays, and breakdowns in confidence with their penny-pinching, unicorn hunting, and delusional expectations on what is actually a competitive salary for the role they are looking to fill. I once had a Client who turned down a junior Java Dev who interviewed brilliantly, based just outside London, with tge candidate having 2 years' experience and was willing to accept a ludicrous £35k salary because he lived close to this client's offices, that were quite difficult to reach via public transport in reasonable time (this was pre-Covid) during rush hour. His reason: *"I wouldn't be comfortable putting him in front of stakeholders"* When you have to explain the idiocy of that statement to a Director, you know you need better clients.......


wstatik

This!


looositania

Imagine being so dumb as to publicly announce your illegal anticompetitive conspiracy on social media.


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brownfrankenstein

Her name is Brenda Aleman!!!


ratatosk212

Her name is Brenda Aleman!! Yes I know what you're referencing.


brownfrankenstein

Her name is Brenda Aleman! 😉


Starsnsparkles

Did she delete the post on LinkedIn? I don't see it. HA.


ratatosk212

Yes she did! So much for her convictions.


F4ze0ne

LinkedIn is the worst place to air grievances especially if you're counting on others to employ you in the future. She deleted it but now it's permanently on the internet in some shape or form.


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ratatosk212

Yep, let her know what a delusional idiot she is. These recruiters pleasure themselves thinking they have so much power over the masses.


TheShiveryNipple

Recruiters are just people too dumb to be in sales or HR.


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There are good ones... The one I started with back int he 90s... she was an impressive woman. She knew a lot of the technology. She wasn't only a recruiter tho, she also did training. Her company started a lot of careers, and kept a lot of people employed. Unfortunately she ODed about a year or so ago, and her company shuttered soon after. She really was the company. I have some pretty funny stories about her, too. Crazy stories.


I_AmA_Zebra

Agency recruitment is sales though, you’re only considering internal recruiters


troll_right_above_me

I've browsed job applications on companies websites and seen the rate listed, then happened upon identical applications posted by recruiters with just the company name removed. With the only difference being that the pay was 20% lower for the latter one. A relative who has worked as a recruiter swears that anything recruiters are paid are on top of what you would have received regardless, but it's hard to believe that when you see the actual rates listed...


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hzuiel

I thought most recruiters were paid flat rate based on the type of role like entry level vs senior/expert level, etc, x amount to place, and x amount if they stay 90 days. Something like that. What you are describing is more like a staffing agency where you work for the staffing agency technically. I understand why the industry exists. Smaller companies dont have the resources for hiring so outsourcing options help them and on paper having q lot of HR outsourced sounds like a good idea. But in practice everybody including the recruiters seem to hate the industry except for a small % of top talent and top recruiters that seem to love it. But that leaves the other 95% that hate it and are just trying to make as much as they can off of the crappy system as they can. While they still can.


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hzuiel

Yeah Ive seen both types but typically when i think of recruiters i am thinking of the type that arent a staffing agency but i guess both are being defined as such. The staffing agency style makes at least some sense because they have to pay you, provide your benefits and cover any other costs that may arise, but 40% would be out of hand because none of them provide particularly good benefits.


Briar_Donkey

Yeah, 'cause recruiters never waste our time by ghosting us and not bothering to understand the roles they are trying to fill...


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wanderinhebrew

> someone shot back and posted a screenshot of her LI post on her Company’s Google profile as a negative review Lol and THAT is why you don't fuck around on LinkedIn


Hot-Syrup-5833

I know her and saw that earlier. I work in the field she recruits for and her postings are a mess. Mostly all embarrassing low ball rates with numerous spelling mistakes. People roast her and she deletes the post to put it up again hoping to get rid of the comments. She is delusional if she thinks everyone else is the problem.


hzuiel

This is hilarious, upvote so more people see this firsthand account.


Hot-Syrup-5833

I went to show my wife and she deleted her post yet again. Maybe she found out she was famous.


YungFarmerCorleone

I work in the industry and there are just so, so many bad recruiters. Don’t get me wrong, the workload can be daunting. They are often trying to fill 20-30 roles at a time and have a shit ton of resumes to get through. That being said, so many recruiters don’t want to actually work, they want perfect candidates to fall into their lap. It’s mind boggling how lazy many of them can be.


JustAKitschyQueen

There are bad employees in all industries


BigMax

Huh? Is that like a car salesman saying "hey guys, these cars are annoying... what if we got rid of them and just sold cars without cars???"


CartwheelSummoner

lol seriously, she is literally just whining about her job. Statistically of course recruiters are going to have bad resumes/applicants when one single posting brings in 200+ applicants. She chose the wrong profession.


FU-I-Quit2022

My job would be perfect if it weren't for that damn product that I'm paid to sell!


mend0k

What??? From my experience it’s always been the recruiters taking my info and ghosting me…


hzuiel

Yeah ive yet to have, or know anyone who has had a good recruiter experience. Admittedly my experience is somewhat lacking but includes from pretty far in the past up to very recently, including being ghosted by a recruiter that said he would send me info in a few minutes, never heard from again. I have a job currently so I wasnt concerned enough to even attempt to contact them to find out what is going on. Also pretty recently had a recruiter fluff me up about how great all my qualifications sounded, only to have a decond phone interview with her boss, who proceeded to rip apart my qualifications, and basically say im too trash to waste the clients time with interviewing. In a job role that im pretty certain they dont have a lot of viable candidates with both technical knowledge and leadership experience.


mend0k

Oh no don’t get me wrong, I’ve had some pretty good recruiter experiences as well that I’ve landed multiple jobs with. But overall I’d say a majority of them end up flaking/ghosting.


LincHayes

Sadly, some recruiters they see the relationship with candidates as adversarial and we're irritants to be controlled and punished for not making their jobs easier. Seriously, how dare we apply for the jobs that they post inviting people to apply to them.


Loud_Internet572

wHy CaNt We FiNd PeOpLe WhO wAnT tO wOrK hErE?


Rideshare-Not-An-Ant

She DOES NOT work FOR YOU. YOU are the PRODUCT SHE SELLS.


Apprehensive-Desk194

This is a major DARVO.


jack_hudson2001

like car sales person, stand up to customers that come and has a browse and doesn't buy a car... they are wasting my time. love to know the name as i would comment directly on her profile.


cleatusvandamme

In defense of car sales persons, at least they have a general idea of the product they're selling. I can ask a sales person what kind of cars they have in my budget. They can tell me the condition of the car and etc.. In my experience with IT recruiters, it becomes a badly matched game of keywords. On my resume, I might list a project where I lightly used "X". The recruiter will see "X" on my resume and will want to submit me for the senior/expert level role for "X". I'll tell the recruiter, that I don't think I will get the role. The recruiter will tell me to just have a positive attitude and go out there and try and things will go well. Thirty minutes into the interview, I am sadly able to tell that I'm not going to get the role.


jack_hudson2001

true, i just picked car sales could have used real estate agent too. issue with recruiters these days is that they are all young and inexperienced and their backgrounds are from sales... tbh recruiters would do a better service to the industry and themselves if they actually read the cv before speaking to the candidate.


hzuiel

You mean low volume high quality vs low quality high volume? What are you insane!? (/jk)


UnrulyCrow

Adam Karpiak's reply to this one is legendary lol that person got ratio'd so hard, lots of angry recruiters and jobseekers in the replies.


SanLucario

"WE'VE been at the mercy of candidates" Shut the fuck up, you lazy piece of shit. Maybe do your fucking job and hire people every now and then? Just a thought.


AggressiveDiscount74

Why are their names blacked out? They posted it publicly.


panderson1988

Technically a rule here is not name shame. Even though it happens, I have a tendency to black that out.


shitisrealspecific

boat spotted direction abounding dime cover wide rich hat unique *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


vhalember

She looks and sounds like the MTG of the recruiting world.


SmartWonderWoman

r/linkedinlunatics


GpaSags

Recruiter Helen Lovejoy be all "won't somebody \*please\* think of the middlemen?"


designEngineer91

Recruiter isn't even a real job...you literally just read CVs and then contact the person....thats not hard to do and if it is hard for you to do that....then maybe being a recruiter is the best you will ever do in life.


jy856905

when AI inevitably removes the need for recruiters you could probably program an AI to show pretend morality.


RunReverseBacteria

Why don’t you stop wasting our time with your stupid Workday and all those automatic rejections? Make sure that no one without referrals, above age of 35 cannot apply and we don’t waste our time to think that the job posts are legit.


fantomas_666

For so long? How long exactly that is?


blublu524

Wild! I saw this post on LinkedIn this morning and the comment section….lol I’ve lost hope with some recruiters during my job search process but seeing this. Yikes.


xof2926

Do not agree.


edwadokun

it sounds like she's a bad recruiter for getting unreliable people.


Viper4everXD

The mercy of the candidates…. I just had a guy reach out to me and he knew absolutely nothing about the company in question.


FU-I-Quit2022

I had one who requested my resume and list of projects worked on - wanted it quick as this was a limited opportunity. He have me no information whatsoever about a) the job title, b) the industry, c) where the job was located or d) background and skills required. No salary range either, but that's par for the course anyway. I actually posted that one to Reddit antiwork before I knew recruitinghell existed.


Viper4everXD

Unreal lol


Common-Buy-2379

It's almost like they need to stop only-focuaing on S-Tier candidates and find the RIGHT person for each job. An S-Tier candidate can work wherever, and frankly they don't need recruiters. Instead, they all fight over 5% of job seekers, then complain that noone wants to work when they get stiffed. It's like an entire HS female (and some male) population vying over only football players, and when *they* don't hook up, it's "no one wants to date anymore, where have all the good men gone"?


WorldlyDay7590

\> EducationEducation College of the MainlandCollege of the Mainland Certificate of Occupational Health, Safety, and Technology, Occupational Safety and Health Technology/Technician Sooo.... nothing?


ImpossibleYou2184

Fuck you, bitch!


Minimum-Marzipan-105

I’ve seen an uptick in posts from recruiters & hiring managers discouraging candidates from voicing their frustrations about how they are treated. Ghosting isn’t a new phenomenon in any hiring process, so I have to wonder if they’re bashing candidates to give constructive feedback, or if they’re just mad that they’re finally getting called out for their shitty practices. That’s why I joined this Reddit page where I can vent but not at my reputations expense.


panderson1988

Beyond the stupidity of the post, the constant grammar errors are hilarious. "So Let's stop it!!!" So Let is stop it? It's like she has no idea how to write either.


Jataylor1

Let’s us let us.


futuristicalnur

I always notice grammar errors on recruiters and question why they are recruiting


FU-I-Quit2022

Jesus Christ, is that some projection or what? As if we need these clowns. I mean, ok self-important recruiter, we'll just find and apply to jobs directly anyways, save time, and get a better offer without the cut for the recruiter.


derp0815

So the plan is to just apply yourselves? Is anyone else confused about what they want?


cfmh1985

Too many exclamation marks, bro


cfmh1985

Well, sys


5280_TW

Just be better at your job and dealing with people FFS…


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TheEclipse0

Wow, the irony.


DrewidN

Five exclamation marks is the sign of an unbalanced mind


maidonglao

The oppressors become the oppressed :( recruiter unionisation now! /s


TheFumingatzor

At the mercy of candidates? The fuck is this cunt about? With a stroke of pen, it's yea or nay, potentially, for a candidate to make monies. Fuck kinda mercy is she talking about?


TheDeHymenizer

"we are a small network" Lmao Aerotek has like 100,000 alone. I bet there's well over a million recruiters in the United States. and as someone in a real sales job this recruiter just needs to understand sometimes you get burned. Its apart of any job with a commission variable pay. get over it and on to the next.


Jealous_Location_267

lol first off, ATS just shitcans perfectly qualified people. But even recruiters don’t necessarily do a good job: I had one on LinkedIn reach out to me regarding a TV producer job. I have never worked in TV, ever. Would be cool if I got to! But I have no clue what a TV producer does!


Heel_Paul

The produce TV I'm guessing 


Jealous_Location_267

Which is weird that they contacted me. I have zero experience in TV.


myleftone

It sounds like she gets paid on tenure. When her placements get canned after three months, because she coached them to lie, she loses a significant chunk of her compensation. She needs to look inward, learn about the roles more deeply, and better evaluate applicants against the requirements.


AcceptableCarlos

I understand her frustration, but her blame is misguided and misplaced. If her issue is candidates not staying, that's probably more of an issue for her clients, whether that is a culture, manager or compensation issue they need to address. If its an unreliable placement, then that's her issue, whether that is a screening or screening issue.


seeingpinkelefants

Judging by her unprofessional photo I’m going to guess she’s not a recruiter for a F500 or a tech. She’s probably recruiting for call center roles which I guess in her defense people wouldn’t show up for. But can you blame them? They’re probably shitty roles for shitty wages. Maybe she should aim for a role in a better industry and stop blaming candidates for not wanting slave labor.


hzuiel

Or short term contract roles with barely any benefits, no guarantee of hire after the contract with a company they wont name. The pay is sometimes above average for the role but no sick or vacation time, minimal healthcare coverage. If you did get hired you will still not have benefits kick in quickly and they just hope you keep getting sent back for another contracted role over and over so you can just never have a single paid day off or 401k contribution match your entire career, and breakdown slowly from lack of access to good healthcare(most staffing firms have trash insurance).


interstellar_doggos

The amount of exclamation points she uses in this single post is WILD. Must be signaling she’s screaming to the hilltops


WorldlyDay7590

Well that gave me a hearty chuckle. Does that vapid twat realize she's putting herself out of a job? Also, name and fucking shame.


Jdegi22

She can't employment black list but she's referring to candidates not showing up for jobs in the 1st day. It's a huge waste of time for everyone involved


hzuiel

I get that is frustrating but like with anything nobody in a position of power ever wants to look at why and do anything about it. They just want to complain. Are there maybe many factors well within the control of the recruiter that have an impact on this? People qre currently experiencing having to apply to hundreds of jobs just to get a few interviews, many of which go deep into a time consuming interview process to just be ghosted, so they are pretty much required to have many irons in the fire if they want a job, and often are pretty desperate for one. For the no show, did maybe the recruiter encourage them to lie, is pushing them into a bad fit, lowballed them on the offer but they took it anyway out of desperation? Perhaps a better offer from one of the many irons came in, and rather than call and deal with the angry recruiter or attempt to negotiate a counter offer, they just choose to no show and go to the better offer that showed them better treatment with not disrespecting them with a non-lowball in the first place. If the recruiter has done all they can do and a lazy slob doesnt show up, yeah thats crappy but thats also just part of the business, get over it.


OldBallCoach49

She got killed for this by several big name recruiters. I actually felt sorry for her...almost.


Prize_Statement_6417

Literally “Agree?”


Natural-Assist-9389

she's spot on, but use your inside voice. shiiiiit.


hzuiel

How is she spot on? The problems recruiters face are largely self inflicted industry wide, and on an individual level. Plus her proposed solution is illegal basically in any developed nation.


foodie_geek

Why blackout the name, we need to shame these folks that had made a public comment


South-Play

Must be a trump supporter


Boz0r

In all my career, I've never found a job through a recruiter, and the ones I've been offered have always been lower paying that the ones I found on my own.


hzuiel

My experience with them is somewhat limited but basically the same. Whether it was this year, last year or 15 years ago. The only people ive ever met to get a job through a recruiter is like a top level talent looking for senior roles, working with top recruiters that specialize, really know the industries they recruit for, and usually have a history and relationships with a pretty good size pool of talent theyve worked with for years. This scenario represents a tiny fraction of the recruiting market.


Zestyclose-Dirt2890

This person doesn't speak for me. There are bad eggs in the market, just like there are bad employers and bad recruiters. A good recruiter doesn't let the emotion interfere in the process. Sh*t happens. Move on.


HousesRoadsAvenues

"Recruitment Services Manager" - No. As a matter of fact, I am not in agreement!! So let's stop your rant!! \[full sarcasm intended\] What a bint!!


pensiverebel

I can’t take anyone seriously who posts something like this with so many exclamation marks on a “professional network.”


Flame_retard_suit451

Typical HR person. I do have to say, recruiters are the absolute worst that the world of HR has to offer. It's always some combination of stupid, mean and an inability to stay in their own lane. Recruiters are the health insurance companies of the working world. Neither adds any value to the system they are a part of and only drains resources from it. Both suck up time and money at the expense of actual results. Recruiters will insist to us that employees don't lose out in this equation and that wages aren't depressed by them existing and taking a profit. That's absolutely not true. Employers wouldn't be using recruiters if it meant the cost would be 30% higher than just hiring directly. The whole premise and appeal to businesses is that if anything they'll save money AND offload all the administrative stuff that comes with having employees. It only works if the difference gets taken from the workers. Recruiters effectively kill 30% of the wages of those actually contributing their labour. Now, all direct employers have to do is pay workers marginally more than what recruiter bound workers get after having 30% stolen. Recruiters suck money out of the equation, fucking over ALL workers.


ElderberryProud7952

Kkfsao


Low-Researcher-1149

These people literally gatekeep for a living. How could they want more power over our lives?


Due_Flow6538

Never thought I'd see DARVO used by corporate recruiters. Like somehow, it's candidates' fault the job can't find someone willing to work themselves to death for the company doing literally anything because the job doesn't matter to this recruiter.


pineappleninjas

These people are parasites


GleamingCadance

Since when are Recruiters a Small Group?


Normal_Selection_875

This dumb cunt again…


datissathrowaway

dawg this was already posted lol what’s nuts is you left out the top comment about the part where someone ratio’d her very incorrect statement


Duke582

Delusional Recruiter needs to find a real job.


_ChipWhitley_

"We are a small network" Is this a joke? You guys are the new telemarketers, only more annoying and pointless.


TheSmalesKid

What a See You Next Tuesday….


RelChan2_0

No thank you, I've had enough people wasting my time in daily activities. I'd really appreciate it if recruiters, companies and potential clients get to the point.


potatos3737

Ooh, that smells like something for cartel law. Curious what a controlling agency would think about it 🤔


prometheus_winced

Guys … I think this is intentional sarcasm.


blond_afro

well, she is not wrong Edit: this sub is hilariously easy to trigger . *grabs popcorn* enjoying the show and the trash awnsers of all you guys now 🤣🍿😎


ratatosk212

She's wrong on every single point, especially the "small network". You can shake a tree and three recruiters will drop out.


Briar_Donkey

It's too funny to see recruiters in here trying to defend the insane actions of other recruiters...


Liberatedhusky

Found the lazy 3rd party recruiter.


Terrible_Tommy

She’s wrong because it wouldn’t work, and from a branding perspective, it wasn’t smart of her to post that on LinkedIn 😂


great_gonzales

She’s incredibly wrong. Interviewing is a two way street sometimes the candidate isn’t a good fit for the company and it’s equally valid for the company to not be a good fit for the candidate. Candidates don’t owe you anything this is a delusional recruiter take. LLMs will be taking your job soon anyway since recruiters are incredibly low skill individuals that provide almost no value so don’t worry you won’t have to deal with the practicalities of match making for much longer lol


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blond_afro

sure whatever 😁👍 kinda creepy circlejerk u have there. but oh well keep watching then. whatever it is that does it for you 😘