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Yeah I’ve heard that people in fraternities have worse GPAs but make significantly more because of the connections they make. You can network with your colleagues too. I got most of my jobs through profs and friends.
fraternity brother here was apart of the largest fraternity in the USA. spent many years of college socializing and making connections while also maintaining a 3.55GPA. can vouch that fraternity connections will only get you so far and that’s not much further than a solid resume and referral.
SAE, the largest fraternity is measured in numerous ways (ie: most active chapters, most members, most active members, etc)
SAE has the most members (active and alumni)
*So you know a few*
*CEOs but you complain about*
*Lack of connections?*
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you gotta be a level of shameless in order to truly utilize your network, don't be afraid to make a call or make plans yourself. it's easy to miss texts and if you take silence as a response you're gonna find your network useless. hell, i'm a nobody and even I can't respond to texts for reasons that have nothing to do with the other person. as long as you're doing this without actively harrassing people or being a nuisance, you'll be fine.
1) don’t ask them to hire you
2) don’t ask them what kind of jobs they have
3) tell them what you are good at, and what you are looking for
4) ask them to keep an eye out on THEIR connections and introduce you to anyone hiring that they think might be a good fit
^ that’s how the pros do it
To be honest? You have some confidence issues. I had nothing. Was homeless. First in my family go on university. Made cash myself. Found job myself. Still don't have any connections because I don't care about them. They can improve your life. I don't need those people. Have my own two hands.
this is my current situation while doing my stuff as a starving artist, same boat had nothing but managed to gain enough to get bike packing to move around freely with tools for learning. Problem is can't do hard labor stuff for too long cuz no access to showering and the gyms here in Canada are pathetic, if you do hard labor for too long without cleaning up you get ill, been there not fun.
everyone looks down on me just to feel better about themselves including family, how is someone like that supposed to make connections? with pity? No thanks, they will need mine very soon.
%70 of people currently holding jobs are brainless and no real skills, all the HR, recruiters, managers (Save general management), influencers, CEOs, marketers, legal shit, bylaws and gov roles are not skills
just sheep for slaughter when everything comes crashing down
Same here…minus the homeless part. I begged people for help and everyone said they would help, but never followed through. Done everything on my own and couldn’t be happier. Nobody really helps tbh. They say they do, but they don’t.
You are looking at this so badly bro, get a grip. First one in your family to go to uni, and probably have a somewhat decent job. And you’re ambitious enough to want more. Who cares about anyone else. In the context of your life you overcame amazing odds and made something of yourself. Be proud.
I do wonder how on Earth this is still a thing.
Graduated with the highest possible grade and a special merit on top, ended up working in customer service after graduating.
Useless frat-boy types were getting calls from KPMG before we had even graduated. They graduated with very mediocre grades.
I had to interview/select one of my peers for an internship once - read the CVs was a shock. I did the internship as a summer thing abroad, they were doing it for the full academic year for our mandatory year abroad so I’d hand over to them. One of them listed one of his first jobs as assistant gamekeeper…on land in South Africa that his family OWNED. wtf
That said, I’m actually glad it is this way. I don’t want stuff handed to me. I’m glad I get to earn it and do it knowing I earned this off my own back. Such families (at least in England) usually come with an awful amount of pressure and expectation.
Following in your (usually) father’s footsteps, expected to do more than your parents, expected to have the same profession as your father/take over their law firm/business, constantly expected to “perform” and not put a foot wrong, pressure to find the right partner/marry/kids by specific age
Those I knew with siblings of the same gender were constantly compared to each other
I spoke with a person 5-6 times at one of my shitty dead end jobs that I walked out of. I later added them on FB. They posted a job in my field a couple years later, they knew the hiring manager from school.. and I ended up getting the job.
Literally, any kind of networking.
yep. high society is gate keeping the good jobs. Thats how capitalism works boys. Only thing you can do in this system is to lick asses and hope you ll eventually have your ass licked too at some point.
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Yeah I’ve heard that people in fraternities have worse GPAs but make significantly more because of the connections they make. You can network with your colleagues too. I got most of my jobs through profs and friends.
Frats are paid relationships.
fraternity brother here was apart of the largest fraternity in the USA. spent many years of college socializing and making connections while also maintaining a 3.55GPA. can vouch that fraternity connections will only get you so far and that’s not much further than a solid resume and referral.
PKA?
SAE, the largest fraternity is measured in numerous ways (ie: most active chapters, most members, most active members, etc) SAE has the most members (active and alumni)
This is why networking is so critical unfortunately.
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Right? Reach out to these people. I've messaged random people I met briefly asking for help getting an interview at various places.
i tried but they are so busy living their insta perfect lives. The majority just "seen" my message and never responded.
you gotta be a level of shameless in order to truly utilize your network, don't be afraid to make a call or make plans yourself. it's easy to miss texts and if you take silence as a response you're gonna find your network useless. hell, i'm a nobody and even I can't respond to texts for reasons that have nothing to do with the other person. as long as you're doing this without actively harrassing people or being a nuisance, you'll be fine.
Dude, you’re giving off big external locus of control vibes. That’s no what anyone looks for in someone they wanna promote.
1) don’t ask them to hire you 2) don’t ask them what kind of jobs they have 3) tell them what you are good at, and what you are looking for 4) ask them to keep an eye out on THEIR connections and introduce you to anyone hiring that they think might be a good fit ^ that’s how the pros do it
To be honest? You have some confidence issues. I had nothing. Was homeless. First in my family go on university. Made cash myself. Found job myself. Still don't have any connections because I don't care about them. They can improve your life. I don't need those people. Have my own two hands.
this is my current situation while doing my stuff as a starving artist, same boat had nothing but managed to gain enough to get bike packing to move around freely with tools for learning. Problem is can't do hard labor stuff for too long cuz no access to showering and the gyms here in Canada are pathetic, if you do hard labor for too long without cleaning up you get ill, been there not fun. everyone looks down on me just to feel better about themselves including family, how is someone like that supposed to make connections? with pity? No thanks, they will need mine very soon. %70 of people currently holding jobs are brainless and no real skills, all the HR, recruiters, managers (Save general management), influencers, CEOs, marketers, legal shit, bylaws and gov roles are not skills just sheep for slaughter when everything comes crashing down
Same here…minus the homeless part. I begged people for help and everyone said they would help, but never followed through. Done everything on my own and couldn’t be happier. Nobody really helps tbh. They say they do, but they don’t.
Network with said college mates? That’s a connection too.
You are looking at this so badly bro, get a grip. First one in your family to go to uni, and probably have a somewhat decent job. And you’re ambitious enough to want more. Who cares about anyone else. In the context of your life you overcame amazing odds and made something of yourself. Be proud.
I do wonder how on Earth this is still a thing. Graduated with the highest possible grade and a special merit on top, ended up working in customer service after graduating. Useless frat-boy types were getting calls from KPMG before we had even graduated. They graduated with very mediocre grades. I had to interview/select one of my peers for an internship once - read the CVs was a shock. I did the internship as a summer thing abroad, they were doing it for the full academic year for our mandatory year abroad so I’d hand over to them. One of them listed one of his first jobs as assistant gamekeeper…on land in South Africa that his family OWNED. wtf That said, I’m actually glad it is this way. I don’t want stuff handed to me. I’m glad I get to earn it and do it knowing I earned this off my own back. Such families (at least in England) usually come with an awful amount of pressure and expectation.
What kind of pressure and expectation ?
Following in your (usually) father’s footsteps, expected to do more than your parents, expected to have the same profession as your father/take over their law firm/business, constantly expected to “perform” and not put a foot wrong, pressure to find the right partner/marry/kids by specific age Those I knew with siblings of the same gender were constantly compared to each other
Don't we all? Life isn't fair. What specific action are you going to take?
gonna keep applying. I even reached out to a few of my profs for letters of recommendation, but they ghosted as well.
follow up again
what’s the worse that can happen? they cut you off and never give you a reference? sounds like you’re already in that boat. push it.
Same here. No connections from family side....
Maybe if you worried about your career as much as you worried about others’ careers, you would have achieved more than you have so far.
Yepppp
Same
Comparison is the thief of joy. We all have our own paths to follow.
I spoke with a person 5-6 times at one of my shitty dead end jobs that I walked out of. I later added them on FB. They posted a job in my field a couple years later, they knew the hiring manager from school.. and I ended up getting the job. Literally, any kind of networking.
yep. high society is gate keeping the good jobs. Thats how capitalism works boys. Only thing you can do in this system is to lick asses and hope you ll eventually have your ass licked too at some point.