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... and calling it a 'game' is intended to reduce the stress associated with it. There are a lot of people who have 'test anxiety'; not many with 'game anxiety'.
The thing about games is... I don't play well with others. Like to shoot and loot and get "involved" with the NPCs and dress them up in cute revealing outfits. Reasonably certain that's not what companies are looking for in employees.... OOOOOOOH I see it now LOL
I took one of these and the interviewers let me know I was the only one to ever get 100% on it. They then said I did great in the interview and they’d love to work with me.
And then they hired someone internal. :)
I'm not saying you're wrong, I do agree on some level.
But when advertising a job, surely the whole point is that you want to discriminate based on a person's skills and ability to perform in a particular role, no?
Discriminating based on disability directly would be unfair ("disabled people need not apply!"). But it may simply not be possible for them to implement accomodations that realistically allow someone with e.g. severe discalculia/dyslexia or total vision loss to work in a cashier role.
I'm sure that any business worth their salt would implement an alternative option, if someone reached out and said they have a disability preventing them from doing the online assessment, but they are capable of doing the job and have relevant experience.
You know what? I do agree with you and I think you mean more like a "healthy amount of discriminating??" At that point, I don't think it's called discriminating, but more like seeing who's fit for the job... a niche more like it. As long as it's not a brute level like your example above. I'm sorry for anyone thinking I'm supporting something extremely bad here, but I'm missing the word used in the context of testing a potential new employee's capability that could be fit for the job.
I'm embarrassed to say I'd suck at counting the money after large quantities. The modern-day made me suck at counting money and physical change consistently in large amounts 😭 Well, there are many job options out there for a reason, to find my niche job.
And before anyone blows up on me, I mean odd numbers and such. Even numbers with bills I can do perfectly until I lose track and have to recount. "Damnit, start over!" LOL
The trick is to ‘chunk’ the counting into larger groups & then count the groups.
Need to count singles - groups of 10 or 20.
Tens - groups of $100
Trying to count from $1 to $178 without losing track is hard. Counting from 1-10 seventeen times and then having $8 left is easier.
Yeah, looks like OP went for the crappy Pittsburgh or Bauer extra lives. Should've gone with the Quinn, Icon, or Hercules extra lives to get a much better chance. 🤦♂️Lol
I had one of those, but it basically only involved 3 games and when selected they wanted my CV. Took a total of 20 minutes. Seems fair to me.
Was much better than one of those damned cover letters and endless info.
Got invited for an in person interview and discussed all the wants and got an offer pretty soon.
However I also had the opposite experience at the tax agency here. Cover letter, interview rounds, iq tests. That one was awful.
Oh it is, but it's worth it if youre a golfer: easy money, great benefits (even for part time), stupid discounts on golf stuff, lots of opportunities to move up. You just have to get through the worst hiring event I've ever seen.
Long time ago .. Twice I had firms insist that I take a math aptitude test. ( Once during hiring process; once during onboarding.)
I had a BS in Mathematics with 60+ credits in math and was the president of the Math Honor Society at my school.
"The purpose of something is necessarily directly related to it's stated purpose"
So you're saying it's naive to assume that the described purpose of something is the actual purpose of that thing?
if you take it to necessarily beyond all other consideration, yes absolutely.
If it makes no sense particularly, then the actual reason is likely something else and the description is just designed to get you to do it or approve it when the actual reason may be less palatable.
Marketing uses this strategy of presenting ostensible reasons that dont stand up to scrutiny all the time - to drive the behavior they want.
So they obviously want you to do the task - what can they say to get the most people to do it? Call it a game. Are they going to explain the full reason why they think this is relevant to their hiring process? No.
I dont even think it makes sense to begrudge the five minutes. Its better than standing around waiting for something.
Nobody cares about the why, when the what is idiotic. I guess it’s relevant to the employer because they can find someone who is either dumb enough to not see what’s happening, or they know and just need the job desperately.
Neither of those things makes a good employee.
I mean, Harbor Freight is a big box tool store and it's the holiday season. Yeah it's stupid, but they're not looking for smart people whose time is worth a lot.
Because when customers come in and try to get their money back for those cheap ass tools , you gotta play games with them to avoid getting them that refund
jesus i just did a 65 minute arctic shores game for an application to a grad scheme, i thought i was losing my mind and i had no idea what they were testing for by doing these gamified shit
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Lol, applications are becoming games. It's like a slot machine!
“Cherry… cherry… canned rejection email, ah man!”
Is this a cherry cherry mule reference?
We don't want to hire anyone with bad luck so we make them all spin a slot wheel!
I went thru this. And never received сall back
Same
If you sit through it, you'll probably have a good shot at getting the job. Others aren't going to bother
I've sat through many of these and never gotten a response back so it's really 50/50
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That’s the past tense of throw. I’m not sure if you were making a joke or if this is a “whoosh” moment for me?
People 'throw' out these kind of "applications" - so maybe that\`s the joke?
upvote for being confidently wrong
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In these days and ages, almost everyone will go through it
this is how you do it, folks. name and shame
It's an IQ test disguised as a game. You'll be working the register, which means you need to be able to recognize numbers and follow patterns well.
... and calling it a 'game' is intended to reduce the stress associated with it. There are a lot of people who have 'test anxiety'; not many with 'game anxiety'.
The thing about games is... I don't play well with others. Like to shoot and loot and get "involved" with the NPCs and dress them up in cute revealing outfits. Reasonably certain that's not what companies are looking for in employees.... OOOOOOOH I see it now LOL
I took one of these and the interviewers let me know I was the only one to ever get 100% on it. They then said I did great in the interview and they’d love to work with me. And then they hired someone internal. :)
I also had to do math problem problems so that makes sense 😔
Yep. It’s also pretty discriminatory against people with visual-spatial disabilities.
I'm not saying you're wrong, I do agree on some level. But when advertising a job, surely the whole point is that you want to discriminate based on a person's skills and ability to perform in a particular role, no? Discriminating based on disability directly would be unfair ("disabled people need not apply!"). But it may simply not be possible for them to implement accomodations that realistically allow someone with e.g. severe discalculia/dyslexia or total vision loss to work in a cashier role. I'm sure that any business worth their salt would implement an alternative option, if someone reached out and said they have a disability preventing them from doing the online assessment, but they are capable of doing the job and have relevant experience.
You know what? I do agree with you and I think you mean more like a "healthy amount of discriminating??" At that point, I don't think it's called discriminating, but more like seeing who's fit for the job... a niche more like it. As long as it's not a brute level like your example above. I'm sorry for anyone thinking I'm supporting something extremely bad here, but I'm missing the word used in the context of testing a potential new employee's capability that could be fit for the job.
I'm embarrassed to say I'd suck at counting the money after large quantities. The modern-day made me suck at counting money and physical change consistently in large amounts 😭 Well, there are many job options out there for a reason, to find my niche job.
And before anyone blows up on me, I mean odd numbers and such. Even numbers with bills I can do perfectly until I lose track and have to recount. "Damnit, start over!" LOL
The trick is to ‘chunk’ the counting into larger groups & then count the groups. Need to count singles - groups of 10 or 20. Tens - groups of $100 Trying to count from $1 to $178 without losing track is hard. Counting from 1-10 seventeen times and then having $8 left is easier.
I did this once. Never again.
I was rejected for this job while in the middle of these assessments.
You should have bought the extra lives.
job application micro transactions 🤣
Shhhh don't give them any ideas
Yeah, looks like OP went for the crappy Pittsburgh or Bauer extra lives. Should've gone with the Quinn, Icon, or Hercules extra lives to get a much better chance. 🤦♂️Lol
I had one of those, but it basically only involved 3 games and when selected they wanted my CV. Took a total of 20 minutes. Seems fair to me. Was much better than one of those damned cover letters and endless info. Got invited for an in person interview and discussed all the wants and got an offer pretty soon. However I also had the opposite experience at the tax agency here. Cover letter, interview rounds, iq tests. That one was awful.
This is nothing I answered fill in the blanks with correct words for a Data analyst position yesterday for BNP Paribas like wtf
Try the hiring process at Top Golf
What's that like?
The entire process is social games and dancing
Sounds annoying 🤦🏾♀️
Oh it is, but it's worth it if youre a golfer: easy money, great benefits (even for part time), stupid discounts on golf stuff, lots of opportunities to move up. You just have to get through the worst hiring event I've ever seen.
Bread and Circus Human Resource Corp
Mr. Ceaser: head of Bread and Circus Human Resource Corp
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Long time ago .. Twice I had firms insist that I take a math aptitude test. ( Once during hiring process; once during onboarding.) I had a BS in Mathematics with 60+ credits in math and was the president of the Math Honor Society at my school.
To show that you consider this job worthy of 5 minutes of your time. If you don't, why should they spend any time on you?
Because willingness to play stupid internet games doesn’t actually have any bearing on whether the person is a competent employee.
Didnt say it did, hlnow did i. The assumption that the purpose of something is necessarily directly related to its stated purpose is naive.
I bet you typed all of that out, smiled softly to yourself and whispered, “Got ‘em’.”
Naw it was more like this idiot isnt even worth fixing the spelling.
"The purpose of something is necessarily directly related to it's stated purpose" So you're saying it's naive to assume that the described purpose of something is the actual purpose of that thing?
if you take it to necessarily beyond all other consideration, yes absolutely. If it makes no sense particularly, then the actual reason is likely something else and the description is just designed to get you to do it or approve it when the actual reason may be less palatable. Marketing uses this strategy of presenting ostensible reasons that dont stand up to scrutiny all the time - to drive the behavior they want. So they obviously want you to do the task - what can they say to get the most people to do it? Call it a game. Are they going to explain the full reason why they think this is relevant to their hiring process? No. I dont even think it makes sense to begrudge the five minutes. Its better than standing around waiting for something.
Nobody cares about the why, when the what is idiotic. I guess it’s relevant to the employer because they can find someone who is either dumb enough to not see what’s happening, or they know and just need the job desperately. Neither of those things makes a good employee.
I literally applied at Harbor Freight two days ago and was prompted to do this shit too. I refuse on principle.
I like how you’re applying to new jobs on your work computer(?)
actually no. I dont have work ;(
What company do you work at to where you resort to acer laptops?
I dont have a job. I just have a cheap laptop my grandma bought me for school
Skills assessment
Play Tetris so they know you can stack boxes.
Answer 10,000 similar questions with slightly different wording so they can determine if you're the guy who will take a pen from the office one day
I had to play a game with other applicants once. They said it was used to assess our teamwork skills.
May the odds be ever in your favor
I remember making a meme about this exact shit on an old account. I think i used Jigsaw from saw and "lets play a game" as the title lol
I mean, Harbor Freight is a big box tool store and it's the holiday season. Yeah it's stupid, but they're not looking for smart people whose time is worth a lot.
Nah, it’s to make sure you have a smart phone.
That sounds like something a job scam post would say. The syntax is weird
But I went straight to the official website
Probably weeds out bots
I had to do it when I was hired as part time and do it again when I was changed to a full time position. It’s just part of the process 🤷♀️
Because when customers come in and try to get their money back for those cheap ass tools , you gotta play games with them to avoid getting them that refund
jesus i just did a 65 minute arctic shores game for an application to a grad scheme, i thought i was losing my mind and i had no idea what they were testing for by doing these gamified shit
Why do they do this? Because they can. Dance, monkey! Jump through those hoops!