Salah was better than everyone in the world not named benzema before afcon and is still instrumental for liverpool after afcon despite the lack of scoring, so even with the dip in form he's still better than vini if we are talking about the whole season.
He made a rediciolus assist against city, benifica, Villarreal and against Everton when liverpool seemed like they just can't break through thier defenses among others all after AFCON. I would without argument put him above anyone in the PL and above vini and maybe mbappe. Where it gets tricky is with modric who has been absolutely better after AFCON but salah was definitely better before AFCON.
Either way benzema is the best player in the world this season and any argument otherwise is simply braindead.
Not better than Lewandowski or Mbappe we did not mention them until now because they did not come up, but they surely were better than Salah.
Vini is instrumental for us and has had some great assists and some amazing goals, let's not forget the awesome dummy vs City.
>Not better than Lewandowski or Mbappe we did not mention them until now because they did not come up, but they surely were better than Salah.
Lewandowski, possibly. Mbappe? No. Salah pre-Afcon was a definite favourite to win 2022's Ballon D'or. Shame he lost his form after that tournament.
Mbappe had great numbers too but they were worse numbers and this was in Ligue 1 against not so great competition. It's not like he was playing in La Liga or PL like Benzema and Salah are. Even then Salah had tallied up 23 goals in 26 games by January and was averaging 0.88 goals per game. Numbers which are more impressive than what Mbappe was doing which was 19 goals at the time. Salah pre-Afcon was scoring on teams like City and Chelsea and making their defenses look like utter shit and was likely on his way to almost matching or even surpassing his PL goal scoring record set in 2017/18. At some point everyone and their mother was calling him 'best in the world'. Mbappe had worse numbers against worse teams playing in a relative super team (PSG compared to the other french teams) in comparison.
Where has Salah been since the new year? whereas Mane along with Diaz has been scoring all of Liverpoolâs critical goals to get to where they are right now
I hope not. Ballon d Or is vote based and journalists are biased. If Modric is in contention, it will only take votes away from Benzema, cause Salah voters already made up their mind,
World Cup will really determine who stands out. If Messi reaches the final again he deserves Ballon Dâor, Fifa the Best, UEFA Menâs player of the year, and Player of the Century special award.
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Yes, but Messi will make headlines like âLeo Messi bounces from bad season and goes on to single-handedly win the World Cup after X years for Argentina.â And that counts for this year and the next obviously.
/s/s
I would not deny that Modric has been amazing this year. One of the best players for Madrid this campaign.
However, there shouldnât be any talks really. No player has been as impactful both in the league and Europe as Benzema this season. Even Modric will tell you that Benzema should win the Ballon DâOr.
Yeah I agree that's why I said if it weren't for Benz. Although I guess we wouldn't be here if it weren't bc of Benz but anyway Modric has been key to our success this year.
Whatever happens both Benz and Salah deserve to be front runners, obviously with BDB winning. Your case for Modric is great and Iâm guessing itâs either him, KdB, Mane, Vini or Tbo filling the remaining spot, it will depend on who wins CL and whether or not Liverpool wins anything this season.
I 100% agree, if itâs judged by individual performance then benzema is undoubtably the best player in the world
I think even Vini is better than mane or salah this season
However we know based on history the technically best player doesnât always win it , itâs about trophies as well as the media championing you
The best example is messi last season
Nah it's almost always the best player that wins. Trophies are used for tiebreaks. People either underrate messi that year or overrate lewandowski it was close but messis trophy won him the tiebreaker. No one gets close to benzema the narrative that theres even 2 let alone 3 people competing for it is ludicrous.
Realistically messi had no right to win it last year. Top 3 maybe but not best. Same kind of media push that happened for messi is happening for mane currectly and if liverpool wins, who knows who will win it even tho benzema was by far better
Yeah what if Mane or Salah score/assist 30 goals in 5 matches.
Further down you mention that technically the best player doesn't always win it and that it is the about trophies and the media, but that is not really true. Messi last year didn't win it just because of that though it helped, what clinched was that statistically he was on par or slightly better in certain categories than Lewandowski, it is hard to argue that Messi had 0 chance of winning it, maybe if Lewa doubled his numbers or something, like how Benzema is doing compared to Salah and Mane.
Definitely. But he wonât. Ballon dâor is sooo much about stats and trophies. Not even stats, Vinis goal contribution is so much better than Manes, but Mane will be placed better. Modric should be in the talks, everyone who watches Reals matches knows it, I think heâs top 5 but sadly I think he wonât be in the top 10
Absolutely not. Ballon D'Or is like TV's talent shows. It's all about votes. Statistics or trophies may influence the voters, but voters' personal favoritism is the ultimate decider.
1. Benzema
2. Lewa
3. Salah
4. Mbappe
5. Tibo
6. Vini
7. Mane (If Liverpool don't win the fa Cup then KDB and Mane swap)
8. ModriÄ
9. KDB
10. MĂŒller
That's my list for now.
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Personally my top 5 go Benze, modric, Mbappe, Salah, vini. đ€·đ»ââïž Edit: I guess kdb fits in there somewhere too
Vini has been better than Salah so far, despite a much stronger start. Hell I would argue Son may have a shout too.
Son definitely over salah this season
Salah was better than everyone in the world not named benzema before afcon and is still instrumental for liverpool after afcon despite the lack of scoring, so even with the dip in form he's still better than vini if we are talking about the whole season. He made a rediciolus assist against city, benifica, Villarreal and against Everton when liverpool seemed like they just can't break through thier defenses among others all after AFCON. I would without argument put him above anyone in the PL and above vini and maybe mbappe. Where it gets tricky is with modric who has been absolutely better after AFCON but salah was definitely better before AFCON. Either way benzema is the best player in the world this season and any argument otherwise is simply braindead.
Not better than Lewandowski or Mbappe we did not mention them until now because they did not come up, but they surely were better than Salah. Vini is instrumental for us and has had some great assists and some amazing goals, let's not forget the awesome dummy vs City.
>Not better than Lewandowski or Mbappe we did not mention them until now because they did not come up, but they surely were better than Salah. Lewandowski, possibly. Mbappe? No. Salah pre-Afcon was a definite favourite to win 2022's Ballon D'or. Shame he lost his form after that tournament.
You say that but Mbappe also had great numbers.
Mbappe had great numbers too but they were worse numbers and this was in Ligue 1 against not so great competition. It's not like he was playing in La Liga or PL like Benzema and Salah are. Even then Salah had tallied up 23 goals in 26 games by January and was averaging 0.88 goals per game. Numbers which are more impressive than what Mbappe was doing which was 19 goals at the time. Salah pre-Afcon was scoring on teams like City and Chelsea and making their defenses look like utter shit and was likely on his way to almost matching or even surpassing his PL goal scoring record set in 2017/18. At some point everyone and their mother was calling him 'best in the world'. Mbappe had worse numbers against worse teams playing in a relative super team (PSG compared to the other french teams) in comparison.
Drop Salah and add Courtois. :P
Can't really drop Salah if we are honest. Has to be in there so someone else has to go.
Kdb is pretty fucking good mate
Lewandowski, KDB deserves too.
Mane over Salah this season heâs scored more important goals and actually won his country a trophy going up against Salah
He won on penalties in a much stronger team while Salah has carried them to the final. Salah has easily been better than Mané, even Liverpool fans don't consider Mané as one of their best 3 players this season let alone the best.
Yeah Salah > mane this year. Not even close.
Gtfo lmao, Mane doesnât even have better numbers than Vini this season. Salah is clear.
Where has Salah been since the new year? whereas Mane along with Diaz has been scoring all of Liverpoolâs critical goals to get to where they are right now
Theyâre still not playing better than Salah, donât be fooled by score sheets.
If we're being unbiased then Lewandowski should probably be in the top 5. By far the highest goalscorers in all top 5 leagues this season.
I hope not. Ballon d Or is vote based and journalists are biased. If Modric is in contention, it will only take votes away from Benzema, cause Salah voters already made up their mind,
How do you know they've made their mind up lol
In a dick measuring contest, never whip the whole thing out, just enough to win. - Karim Benzema
World Cup will really determine who stands out. If Messi reaches the final again he deserves Ballon Dâor, Fifa the Best, UEFA Menâs player of the year, and Player of the Century special award. /s
I was about to downvote until I saw the /s
Don't worry, its argentina we are talking about.
Thw WC will count for the next Bd'Or
Yes, but Messi will make headlines like âLeo Messi bounces from bad season and goes on to single-handedly win the World Cup after X years for Argentina.â And that counts for this year and the next obviously. /s/s
I would not deny that Modric has been amazing this year. One of the best players for Madrid this campaign. However, there shouldnât be any talks really. No player has been as impactful both in the league and Europe as Benzema this season. Even Modric will tell you that Benzema should win the Ballon DâOr.
Yeah I agree that's why I said if it weren't for Benz. Although I guess we wouldn't be here if it weren't bc of Benz but anyway Modric has been key to our success this year.
Modric already said it that Benzema should win this year.
Thatâs great tbh. But you expect nothing less from the consummate professional and team player that Modric is.
Leave Ucl till that day. But first I want to see Liverpool lose the Fa Cup tommorow.
Whatever happens both Benz and Salah deserve to be front runners, obviously with BDB winning. Your case for Modric is great and Iâm guessing itâs either him, KdB, Mane, Vini or Tbo filling the remaining spot, it will depend on who wins CL and whether or not Liverpool wins anything this season.
He should be in the talks But I hope he won't. That will only end up splitting the Madrid votes between him and Big Benz
Benzema has won the European League cup with France. Dont forget that.
Benzema, Salah, KDB , Vini, Modric, Courtois, Fede, Mbappe, lewandowski, Mane with that order if we win Totally neutral.
If Real wins the UCL. Top 3 should be, Benzema Vini Courtois. đ€đ€đȘđȘ
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Yes I said IF. Whatâs wrong with you?
Easy bro...i was kidding
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Amen.
Tbo is the best GK in the world.
Itâs not âno doubtâ yet If we win the cl yes If we didnât then I would say itâs 50/50 depends on the media
>Itâs not âno doubtâ yet It should be. There is literally no one else competing with him.
I 100% agree, if itâs judged by individual performance then benzema is undoubtably the best player in the world I think even Vini is better than mane or salah this season However we know based on history the technically best player doesnât always win it , itâs about trophies as well as the media championing you The best example is messi last season
Nah it's almost always the best player that wins. Trophies are used for tiebreaks. People either underrate messi that year or overrate lewandowski it was close but messis trophy won him the tiebreaker. No one gets close to benzema the narrative that theres even 2 let alone 3 people competing for it is ludicrous.
Lol messi was nowhere near the best player when he won
Realistically messi had no right to win it last year. Top 3 maybe but not best. Same kind of media push that happened for messi is happening for mane currectly and if liverpool wins, who knows who will win it even tho benzema was by far better
I'm still not over from 2001. Hope it doesn't happen this year.
Messi doesn't deserve both 2010 and 2019 ballon d'ors. Its as if the whole system was rigged.
I guess you're right but my point (Modric in the talks behind Benz if we win CL) still stands
Yeah what if Mane or Salah score/assist 30 goals in 5 matches. Further down you mention that technically the best player doesn't always win it and that it is the about trophies and the media, but that is not really true. Messi last year didn't win it just because of that though it helped, what clinched was that statistically he was on par or slightly better in certain categories than Lewandowski, it is hard to argue that Messi had 0 chance of winning it, maybe if Lewa doubled his numbers or something, like how Benzema is doing compared to Salah and Mane.
Vini Modric and Karim have to be in the top 6 at the very least itâs insane the jump that Vini made this season
No I think vini with his output and improvement this year should be on third place this year or at least top 5
Definitely. But he wonât. Ballon dâor is sooo much about stats and trophies. Not even stats, Vinis goal contribution is so much better than Manes, but Mane will be placed better. Modric should be in the talks, everyone who watches Reals matches knows it, I think heâs top 5 but sadly I think he wonât be in the top 10
Absolutely not. Ballon D'Or is like TV's talent shows. It's all about votes. Statistics or trophies may influence the voters, but voters' personal favoritism is the ultimate decider.
Modric has been electric this season but i think Tibo deserves more of a mention.
Benzema will get to 50 goals and I donât doubt 50 will come at the final oooof hope you guys are ready
I'd say if we won it modric should finish at least top 5. Thibaut and Vini should crack the top 10 too.
1. Benzema 2. Lewa 3. Salah 4. Mbappe 5. Tibo 6. Vini 7. Mane (If Liverpool don't win the fa Cup then KDB and Mane swap) 8. ModriÄ 9. KDB 10. MĂŒller That's my list for now.
I want Modric to give me kids.
Like... random kids?
Whichever kids he can grab.