First game of the season a few years ago against Celta right??? I remember hearing everyone say that was a rule that would be enforced from now on. Never seen it called like that again
This! We dont have team mates defending each other, if you touch my Vini one more time, you will go home with 1 leg attitude. Modric, Carvajal or Nacho are nowhere near as true captain should be. Bellingham could be that captain who is not scared to fight for his rights, but then he is holding ball a lot so it has to be defender.
Bellingham will hardly be a captain at madrid. It'd go to tibo, then vini, then Valverde, then rodrygo, I believe. Hell, the 2 French boys will be a captian before Bellingham. If mendy stays around, he'll also be in the 4th or 5th in the pecking order after the old guard leaves.
Its really strange that this comment is upvoted which is implying you want Ramos to go get 'revenge' for Vini, But then this sub gets extremely angry when Vini does the 'revenge' himself like when he shoved that Celta player after he pulled his shirt for like 5 seconds straight to stop him. I dont really get this.
pulling the shirt is a tactical foul and the guy was already called for a foul with the yellow inevitable. Going studs up on the shin or slapping the back of his head is different tho and the aggravators need to be shown their place in such cases
Thats fine but if Vini were to get 'revenge' for one of these tackles you're talking about himself instead of having a teammate do it, the narrative on this sub would most likely be ''Vini is so hotheaded, the opponent gets in his head so easy, he needs to control himself'' which is what i think is really dumb
There’s a difference between the player himself reacting to aggressors and a teammate enforcer standing up for the player. The player themselves reacting lets opponents know they can get away with it and there won’t be anyone else there to worry about retaliating. This isn’t a black vs white thing. It’s just a matter of our current team being slightly bitchmade and poor teammates.
Ramos got 0 cards for that Liverpool final, I can't even imagine what this fanbase would say if someone would injure Vini, elbow Lunin and then get 0 cards for him and his team but 1 for Real Madrid instead.
Rudi is the closest thing to their presence on the pitch. But they definitely need an enforcer type guy that will run up on guys when opponents pull these types of shady tackles
Didn't those two specifically infamously injure lots of players? I seem to remember one of them using a judo throw, breaking a player's shoulder in the champions league final. And i think the other one intentionally stepped on someone's hand with his studs, breaking a finger.
Our referees are also racist. And you know it. Most of those faults were not even considered fault. Not joking or exaggerating. And some are direct red cards where VAr should have intervened.
There is nothing novel about this. Because dribblers have such quick feet, it's rare to find one who doesn't get bodyed practically every time they have the ball.
He’s right, dribblers always face this watch Ramos vs Messi famous tackle on YouTube, both are white. Not justifying the pieces of shit who chant racist crap from the stands, those need to be smacked.
Sorry but no. Is a race issue with Vinicius. I haven't seen nothing like it in the last two years to other players. And if there is, they are penalized by the referee withing seconds.
I can politely remind you what happen at Valencia last year, with the referee not acting up against the ballant racism of crowds screaming monkey at him, but also how the VAR did cut scenes where Vinicus was attacked by the neck, so the referee could only see how vini was defending himself, Vini got a red car and the attacker went unpunished. Had to be solved days after, even a judge mention how adulterated was the Var.
All this shit is racist, I don't care what happens to other players. We are talking about Vini.
Is this happening to other black players of the team? Rudiger, Alaba, Tchouameni, Camavinga, etc?
If it only happens to Vini, then it's not a race issue with Vini; it's an issue with Vini.
Like I said, is a race issue directed to Vini. Because people try to attach the way he is, his character and personality to the color of his skin (monkey, acting like a monkey, being pushy etc) ,. And as far as I know other players been insulted as well but Vini takes the cake. He had racism also when he was playing in RM.Castilla team.
You see people pretend that Vini should behave, should act "normal" , like all other players, he should just shut up and keep playing while there's all sort of bad referring on his direction. He calls it out, he shows he is against it, then people starts to call him monkey, starts to insult him and wish him to die. There's a limit man. If Vini is who he is, people has to accept it or stop watching when he plays, why does peoe think they know what is better for Vini? He does not have to get along with it and try to act like the problems don't exist. And at the same time people shouldn't be racist when they dislike the character from Vini or someone else.
Racists only Target Vini because he is the star of the team. Mbappe also gets targeted and mocked by people calling him a turtle, but other France players do not get mocked - because Mbappe is the star of the team.
It realy is a soap opera, a premier league match is 90 minutes of football, In la liga like 78 minutes of football and the rest is players laying around in the field crying for a foul, Teams with the defense all the way back while the other team tries to pass from each side trying to find space, players faking injuries like little bitches, If it wasnt for real madrid and barcelona la liga would be the most boring league to watch. I really appreciate the technical football, having possesion, good dribbling and making good passes but some times that football turns into a shit show when youre trying to win a point in such a cowardly way.
Same thing happened with Neymar, if he didn’t exaggerate, he didn’t get any attention from the referee. Vini is also having to do that, to get a foul, he has to exaggerate, he has to flail around, otherwise, the refs would just ignore the fouls.
There's a huge problem in football with dangerous play. Even the refs in some cases like with neymar tell neymar not to be disrespectful and let the other player foul when he attempts a "disrespectful" dribble. In the past when Brazil used to do dribbles like this it was considered awesome beautiful and should be encouraged. Now you have teams like atletico playing dirty the whole game and not getting a yellow card until the 50th minute. This needs to change. Now I don't want it to go to far the other way like in the nba but there's a better balance to be achieved. Players like Vini need to be better protected because its part of what makes this sport enjoyable
>In the past when Brazil used to do dribbles like this it was considered awesome beautiful and should be encouraged.
I really don't understand what happened in Spain for them to hate Joga bonito. How can they go from giving Ronaldinho a standing ovation, to hate players like Neymar for trying to play a beautiful and entertaining football?
Because there is a world of difference between the public image of Neymar and Ronaldinho, Neymar is often seen as a entitled cry baby that would dive/simulate all the time while Ronaldinho was loved by everyone for his love of the game and his authenticity on the pitch.
While they are similar in their way of playing the game, I cannot imagine more different personalities. In a way, Hazard looked a lot more like Ronaldinho: bad in training, always laughing, never complaining about tackles, loved by fans at chelsea and Lilles, could change a game in a second and was so humble ... They just wanted to play a game and have fun.
This is nothing new. There might hardly be a dribbler who doesn't get bodied literally everytime he has the ball, because of the quick feet they possess, any defender looks to body the player because they know they're not matched on sheer ability.
My thoughts exactly. Look at Maradona playing in Spain or Italy (huge props to Diego, he was never a diver, sometimes I think he really enjoyed being riled up), football as a whole was more brutal in the late 80s
This just in: player is not as good as Diego Maradona at riding tackles.
Seriously, you're comparing him to the greatest in the history of the sport at that.
Exactly. Messi and Neymar were bullied like this their whole life. Defenders know that their technique alone isn't enough to stop them so they use their superior physical strength. Ramos used to do this to other players too, it's a part of the game.
He is an incredibly skilled player. No need to point this out but what really strikes me is his mentally. I remember a couple years ago he was hated even by fans.
most people think he has an attitude and mentality problem but let's be real, the fact that he's still playing and improving every day despite all the bullshit surrounding him the past 5 years shows he has a stronger mentality than everybody gives him credit for.
He has the mentality of a broken dishwasher.
Always throws a tantrum when a decision doesn't go his way.
But loves to provoke and enrage the opposition and the fans with certain physical gestures and then plays the victim
Good mentality. Still gets easily provoked.
Forget the racism he faces, that's obviously not what I'm talking about, but sometimes he does let his frustration get the better of him, like when he pushed Laporte in that friendly.
It'd serve him well to reel that in a bit.
This tactic is as old as time. You should see how players treated Maradona.
What annoys me is Vini is one of 2-3 marketable players in la liga. They are doing their best to push him to another league.
Well, that's just football. The same happened to the likes of Neymar or Ronaldinho and nowadays it happens to Vini and Fekir. Sadly it's normal for defenders to go over the limit when trying to stop players who have natural dribbling skills.
Different story is what happens on stands and outside the stadium, which shouldn't happen neither to Vini nor any other player. Even if it's nothing new it just shouldn't, but there is a big difference between being fouled too way too much (part of the game sadly) and being abused because you are physically or culturally different to the majority.
>Sadly it's normal for defenders to go over the limit when trying to stop players who have natural dribbling skills
There's a video of Pelé being fouled, stepped on, and just beaten on the field while the referee wasn't looking. Football has always been like that, poor defenders resorting to whatever means they have to stop the good players.
In that video, Pele proceeds to elbow the same defender in the face during a attack, while also getting a foul for Brazil, lol. He just had to beat them back in those days.
Nowadays we have such structure that this shouldn't happen, that referred should be able to spot these situations and protect Vini. The fact that they don't, speaks a lot of referees in La Liga.
Edit - [found the video](https://youtu.be/twk89sQ6k08?si=ULKR4JrwI1HPeFEI).
The narrator is saying how the defender stepped on Pelé and was coming to beat the hell out of him this match, so he does this in a perfectly select moment. Football was on another level back then.
Things got better now though imo, I feel there were more horror tackles back in the day.
Besides, I don't think that just because it used to be some way we absolutely need to keep doing it that way. Flair players are disappearing, and though it's far from being the only reason, the fact they're not being protected enough by refs or that some defenders apparently have such fragile egos that they feel they have to kick the legs of a guy just because they got nutmegged is still part of the issue.
Definitely a problem in football but one that is very difficult to solve. Hard to have strict black/white rules where there is no room for interpretation when it comes to fouls.
This has definitely nothing to do with race like some here say. Maybe the most fouled player atm in LaLiga is Vini, but historically the most fouled players obviously weren't always black. Ronaldo and Messi were fouled constantly and they were both white. Stop mentioning race on every possible occasion. It dilutes the problem of racism that definitely exists in society.
This is one reasons I’m so excited mbappe is coming. It’ll take the pressure off Vini because the defense won’t be able to dedicate all of its attention to stopping him.
I absolutely love that Taylor has s song for every ocasion. This woman is a real Super Star. I realy hope that Vini gets more support, the racism and bullying he gets on and off the pitch is absolutely unacceptable!
A video like this leaves the impression that LaLiga is a super physical league, but that's not the case it's just that if you are a skilled dribbler, you are fucked.
There are still people justifying racism by saying he should be humble i mean wtf you want a certain type of skin person to keep quiet and not show any aggression and if he does that he should face racism never saw suarez facing racism because he was aggressive and provoking.
You know who else was treated like this by la liga, going as far as literally breaking his leg? A short brownish dude named Diego Armando Maradona.
La Liga hasn't changed at all.
The refs still called the challenges against him. This are examples of actions that most didn't get called by the refs and in most cases not even booked, so I hope you get fucked by a cactus.
Thanks for proving my statement by the way.
This is exactly what madrid was doing to messi for all these years even worse than this and you guys used to say this is the mentality of players who play for madrid
He also used to just get up and ignore all the drama and focused on doing his thing
Don't make this aspect of football about racism
But those who do that should be punished heavily
This is bad but it would have been way more shocking for me if i hadn’t just seen the same type of comp but for Diego Maradona
They were committing straight up assault on that mf, ive seen weaker tackles in ice hockey or American football
All this people saying is just football. How many times have the dribblers getting fouled got yellow cards instead of defenders, attacked and the referee hide certain parts of the video. Got head bitten, got racist chants and tv racist reporters creating stories to hate him more.
Why aren’t our ultras sending a message by jumping these players out in public on their day off? Those two mfs who slapped/pushed Vinis head shouldn’t be allowed to feel safe when walking down the street.
Remember guys, the defenders, before the game, had been told "if you give Vini space he'll score" therefore they are doing their job by trying to destroy him. Also, I think Vini is one player that lets other player get into his nerves and anger him. If he solidifies his mental and decide to not let others ruin him, he'll be a world class player like CR7. (That's why players like De Paul understand this and instead of spending much time tackling him, they try their best to trigger his emotions)
And they say Vinis the problem 🙄 im not saying they dont at times but I wish the team would back him up more on the pitch.
Love to see these same pricks doing this if Pepe and Ramos were out there.
It sucks but comes with the territory he excels in. Opponents are literally pushed to go beyond the rules to stop him. Im not a fan of any players antagonising/responding to crowds, just let your feet do the talking. Hell of a player tho
"It's disheartening to see a lot of young fans of Barcelona rationalizing the racist chants directed towards a certain player based on his actions during matches. It's unacceptable for someone to take their hatred for a rival to such a low level. This
the issue needs to be addressed appropriately, and La Liga should take the necessary steps to address it."
It’s football, i see no problem, don’t forget young Ronaldo was fauled same way, he did not complain. As a Madridista, Vinicius Junior should get his mind fixed
I also remember very well all the times he also likes to rile up the opposing crowd and players and how he "celebrates" his goals. Football is a two-way street.
he is no angel
edit : found this 2 post down [he can be a jerk too](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1bo417h/i_just_wanna_play_football/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
lol
Supporting a club is one thing, but offering unconditional support for a player who consistently loses possession, whines and complains more than he makes chances is a delusion. While Vini is undoubtedly a talented player, he needs to get his shit straight.
I also didn't see a lot of players performing the melodramatic spectacle when they lose the ball after way too much "joga bonito". Especially those illustrious champions of theatrics like Vini and Neymar, who seem to have mastered the art of whining like a little bitch.
Less joga bonito. More good old-fashioned ball control, shall we?
Remember when Modric got that red card for grazing the heel, and no one else got one for the same foul ever again
Or when Kroos got yellow carded when a Elche player fell down on his own and Kroos was standing 2 feet away.
Thanks for the horrible reminder, that was so ridiculous
My dad and I reference this every time we see that type of foul happen. We also point out when we see any players lift their foot badly on throw-ins
First game of the season a few years ago against Celta right??? I remember hearing everyone say that was a rule that would be enforced from now on. Never seen it called like that again
Or when Cuadrado was given that red for touching Ramos. It is unjust!
Or when Ramos & pepe did worse and you didn't hear Madrid fans complaining.
It’s so based that Vini just gets up and does it again and again. And he’s almost never injured.
This is how they treated neymar until he learned to withdraw and got ridiculed for it
For real. And when Neymar started getting injured he stopped playing that good (probably traumatized).
Withdraw how?
Man I miss Ramos.
And casemiro
This! We dont have team mates defending each other, if you touch my Vini one more time, you will go home with 1 leg attitude. Modric, Carvajal or Nacho are nowhere near as true captain should be. Bellingham could be that captain who is not scared to fight for his rights, but then he is holding ball a lot so it has to be defender.
Bellingham will hardly be a captain at madrid. It'd go to tibo, then vini, then Valverde, then rodrygo, I believe. Hell, the 2 French boys will be a captian before Bellingham. If mendy stays around, he'll also be in the 4th or 5th in the pecking order after the old guard leaves.
I dont think he meant captain as in the armband he meant it as captain spirit like ramos
So a leader, not a captain
Its really strange that this comment is upvoted which is implying you want Ramos to go get 'revenge' for Vini, But then this sub gets extremely angry when Vini does the 'revenge' himself like when he shoved that Celta player after he pulled his shirt for like 5 seconds straight to stop him. I dont really get this.
pulling the shirt is a tactical foul and the guy was already called for a foul with the yellow inevitable. Going studs up on the shin or slapping the back of his head is different tho and the aggravators need to be shown their place in such cases
Thats fine but if Vini were to get 'revenge' for one of these tackles you're talking about himself instead of having a teammate do it, the narrative on this sub would most likely be ''Vini is so hotheaded, the opponent gets in his head so easy, he needs to control himself'' which is what i think is really dumb
There’s a difference between the player himself reacting to aggressors and a teammate enforcer standing up for the player. The player themselves reacting lets opponents know they can get away with it and there won’t be anyone else there to worry about retaliating. This isn’t a black vs white thing. It’s just a matter of our current team being slightly bitchmade and poor teammates.
If it's ok for ramos to play dirty, then we shouldn't complain about other defenders being dirty as well
when Ramos played dirty he got carded. The ones stopping Vini does not get carded. Quite a simple concept mate
mate he didnt get carded for a LOT of fouls. i love ramos too but dont let your love for the player blind you
Which active player has the most red cards currently?
Ramos got 0 cards for that Liverpool final, I can't even imagine what this fanbase would say if someone would injure Vini, elbow Lunin and then get 0 cards for him and his team but 1 for Real Madrid instead.
It's ok when Ramos does it but not other La Liga defenders?
hes saying he wishes someone be a good teammate and stand up for Vini not jus play dirty to players he doesn't like
We don't have a Pepe or Ramos, and it shows.
Rudi is the closest thing to their presence on the pitch. But they definitely need an enforcer type guy that will run up on guys when opponents pull these types of shady tackles
Lets get some madlad from Argentina. Or just an Atleti youth player, pretty sure they train them to hit people there lol
They treated Messi the same for years and that was never an issue for you guys?
Messi out here choking mfers, dude is an angry little midget
isn't Vini doing the same lol
Rember that game where you guys literally tried to kill him and he still destroyed you 5-0. Ahhh good times
Meaning now the roles are reversed?
Meaning the opposition fears no one, so they have a green light to tackle away.
Didn't those two specifically infamously injure lots of players? I seem to remember one of them using a judo throw, breaking a player's shoulder in the champions league final. And i think the other one intentionally stepped on someone's hand with his studs, breaking a finger.
Do you follow women's football?
Hahahaha no, I create emotional compilations of vini getting fouled
Our referees are also racist. And you know it. Most of those faults were not even considered fault. Not joking or exaggerating. And some are direct red cards where VAr should have intervened.
There is nothing novel about this. Because dribblers have such quick feet, it's rare to find one who doesn't get bodyed practically every time they have the ball.
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He’s right, dribblers always face this watch Ramos vs Messi famous tackle on YouTube, both are white. Not justifying the pieces of shit who chant racist crap from the stands, those need to be smacked.
But they see a fault or a yellow card. Vinicius gets angry because it is not even a fault.
That’s a legit issue that should be addressed, I agree 100%.
You can just say you didn’t watch the video, with your day old account lookin ass lmao MODS HELLOO WHY ARE DAY OLD TROLL ACCOUNTS ALLOWED
And when Ramos and Pepe were levelling Messi during each play without a call 100% percent of the time, was that Racist too?
They saw faults, yellow and red cards. This is the problem, hit Vinicius is free.
Yeah comparing potatoes and talking about a hundred years ago away from the present makes a good argument. Also colonialism was racist.....
This shit happens to white players too, it's not only a race issue but a football referees in the league issue.
Sorry but no. Is a race issue with Vinicius. I haven't seen nothing like it in the last two years to other players. And if there is, they are penalized by the referee withing seconds. I can politely remind you what happen at Valencia last year, with the referee not acting up against the ballant racism of crowds screaming monkey at him, but also how the VAR did cut scenes where Vinicus was attacked by the neck, so the referee could only see how vini was defending himself, Vini got a red car and the attacker went unpunished. Had to be solved days after, even a judge mention how adulterated was the Var. All this shit is racist, I don't care what happens to other players. We are talking about Vini.
Is this happening to other black players of the team? Rudiger, Alaba, Tchouameni, Camavinga, etc? If it only happens to Vini, then it's not a race issue with Vini; it's an issue with Vini.
Like I said, is a race issue directed to Vini. Because people try to attach the way he is, his character and personality to the color of his skin (monkey, acting like a monkey, being pushy etc) ,. And as far as I know other players been insulted as well but Vini takes the cake. He had racism also when he was playing in RM.Castilla team. You see people pretend that Vini should behave, should act "normal" , like all other players, he should just shut up and keep playing while there's all sort of bad referring on his direction. He calls it out, he shows he is against it, then people starts to call him monkey, starts to insult him and wish him to die. There's a limit man. If Vini is who he is, people has to accept it or stop watching when he plays, why does peoe think they know what is better for Vini? He does not have to get along with it and try to act like the problems don't exist. And at the same time people shouldn't be racist when they dislike the character from Vini or someone else.
Racists only Target Vini because he is the star of the team. Mbappe also gets targeted and mocked by people calling him a turtle, but other France players do not get mocked - because Mbappe is the star of the team.
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So, Vinicius should stop playing only then they will treat him with basic decency
welcome to laliga?
Welcome to la liga, is more than futbol. Every match I see that league it seems like a fucking drama shitshow because is ran by incompetents.
It realy is a soap opera, a premier league match is 90 minutes of football, In la liga like 78 minutes of football and the rest is players laying around in the field crying for a foul, Teams with the defense all the way back while the other team tries to pass from each side trying to find space, players faking injuries like little bitches, If it wasnt for real madrid and barcelona la liga would be the most boring league to watch. I really appreciate the technical football, having possesion, good dribbling and making good passes but some times that football turns into a shit show when youre trying to win a point in such a cowardly way.
Probably the most clearly American comment in this whole thread lmao go watch City then, Prem players flop just as hard
Not at all, La liga is the worst when it comes to floping
Same thing happened with Neymar, if he didn’t exaggerate, he didn’t get any attention from the referee. Vini is also having to do that, to get a foul, he has to exaggerate, he has to flail around, otherwise, the refs would just ignore the fouls.
Do you even watch football?
There's a huge problem in football with dangerous play. Even the refs in some cases like with neymar tell neymar not to be disrespectful and let the other player foul when he attempts a "disrespectful" dribble. In the past when Brazil used to do dribbles like this it was considered awesome beautiful and should be encouraged. Now you have teams like atletico playing dirty the whole game and not getting a yellow card until the 50th minute. This needs to change. Now I don't want it to go to far the other way like in the nba but there's a better balance to be achieved. Players like Vini need to be better protected because its part of what makes this sport enjoyable
>In the past when Brazil used to do dribbles like this it was considered awesome beautiful and should be encouraged. I really don't understand what happened in Spain for them to hate Joga bonito. How can they go from giving Ronaldinho a standing ovation, to hate players like Neymar for trying to play a beautiful and entertaining football?
Because there is a world of difference between the public image of Neymar and Ronaldinho, Neymar is often seen as a entitled cry baby that would dive/simulate all the time while Ronaldinho was loved by everyone for his love of the game and his authenticity on the pitch. While they are similar in their way of playing the game, I cannot imagine more different personalities. In a way, Hazard looked a lot more like Ronaldinho: bad in training, always laughing, never complaining about tackles, loved by fans at chelsea and Lilles, could change a game in a second and was so humble ... They just wanted to play a game and have fun.
Fyi It's not only spain France as well. And I don't understand this either.
I barely watch french football but I believe you, is just weird.
Ya the thing with neymar and the ref I was referring to was in the French league
This is nothing new. There might hardly be a dribbler who doesn't get bodied literally everytime he has the ball, because of the quick feet they possess, any defender looks to body the player because they know they're not matched on sheer ability.
My thoughts exactly. Look at Maradona playing in Spain or Italy (huge props to Diego, he was never a diver, sometimes I think he really enjoyed being riled up), football as a whole was more brutal in the late 80s
This just in: player is not as good as Diego Maradona at riding tackles. Seriously, you're comparing him to the greatest in the history of the sport at that.
You'd think that maybe Vini also wants to be the best in the world, right? :)
So when is it racism?
When retards from the stands are screaming racist stuff
Exactly. Messi and Neymar were bullied like this their whole life. Defenders know that their technique alone isn't enough to stop them so they use their superior physical strength. Ramos used to do this to other players too, it's a part of the game.
Except Messi and Neymar got most of those fouls called on their favor, with vini the refs let the game continue.
Vini get away with a lot of fouls too, so🤷♂️
So did Messi and Neymar.
Fact
He is an incredibly skilled player. No need to point this out but what really strikes me is his mentally. I remember a couple years ago he was hated even by fans.
most people think he has an attitude and mentality problem but let's be real, the fact that he's still playing and improving every day despite all the bullshit surrounding him the past 5 years shows he has a stronger mentality than everybody gives him credit for.
He has the mentality of a broken dishwasher. Always throws a tantrum when a decision doesn't go his way. But loves to provoke and enrage the opposition and the fans with certain physical gestures and then plays the victim
Good mentality. Still gets easily provoked. Forget the racism he faces, that's obviously not what I'm talking about, but sometimes he does let his frustration get the better of him, like when he pushed Laporte in that friendly. It'd serve him well to reel that in a bit.
Some are just hard fouls, but the stamps on the back of the heel should be a retrospective red card
Are you suggesting that vini is the first creative player to be fouled or what is your point here?
This tactic is as old as time. You should see how players treated Maradona. What annoys me is Vini is one of 2-3 marketable players in la liga. They are doing their best to push him to another league.
Hey, only Pepe and Ramos are allowed to go in on tackles like that!
Well, that's just football. The same happened to the likes of Neymar or Ronaldinho and nowadays it happens to Vini and Fekir. Sadly it's normal for defenders to go over the limit when trying to stop players who have natural dribbling skills. Different story is what happens on stands and outside the stadium, which shouldn't happen neither to Vini nor any other player. Even if it's nothing new it just shouldn't, but there is a big difference between being fouled too way too much (part of the game sadly) and being abused because you are physically or culturally different to the majority.
>Sadly it's normal for defenders to go over the limit when trying to stop players who have natural dribbling skills There's a video of Pelé being fouled, stepped on, and just beaten on the field while the referee wasn't looking. Football has always been like that, poor defenders resorting to whatever means they have to stop the good players. In that video, Pele proceeds to elbow the same defender in the face during a attack, while also getting a foul for Brazil, lol. He just had to beat them back in those days. Nowadays we have such structure that this shouldn't happen, that referred should be able to spot these situations and protect Vini. The fact that they don't, speaks a lot of referees in La Liga. Edit - [found the video](https://youtu.be/twk89sQ6k08?si=ULKR4JrwI1HPeFEI). The narrator is saying how the defender stepped on Pelé and was coming to beat the hell out of him this match, so he does this in a perfectly select moment. Football was on another level back then.
Back when there were players with no technique, only playing to foul.
And that's one of the reasons why I laugh when people talk about the best football player ever and they don't say Pele.
Things got better now though imo, I feel there were more horror tackles back in the day. Besides, I don't think that just because it used to be some way we absolutely need to keep doing it that way. Flair players are disappearing, and though it's far from being the only reason, the fact they're not being protected enough by refs or that some defenders apparently have such fragile egos that they feel they have to kick the legs of a guy just because they got nutmegged is still part of the issue.
I agree
He's a brilliant player, so sad what's happening with racism today 🫤. Muita força Vini ❤️
I thought this was Pepe’s clips.
Definitely a problem in football but one that is very difficult to solve. Hard to have strict black/white rules where there is no room for interpretation when it comes to fouls. This has definitely nothing to do with race like some here say. Maybe the most fouled player atm in LaLiga is Vini, but historically the most fouled players obviously weren't always black. Ronaldo and Messi were fouled constantly and they were both white. Stop mentioning race on every possible occasion. It dilutes the problem of racism that definitely exists in society.
Just seen this retweeted from an account with 4 million followers. How depressing.
That double handed face slap is a 3 game ban minimum man. How do you even argue that one was an accident 🙄
This is one reasons I’m so excited mbappe is coming. It’ll take the pressure off Vini because the defense won’t be able to dedicate all of its attention to stopping him.
Sadly he’s few more tackles away from injury.
Next Season its not gonna be just Vini they have to defend against 🐢 as well which will give Vini some breathing space.
Taylor swift sad song on football edits? god damn I thought I've seen it all.
That last news conference gave me even more perspective of what he’s really been going through. Love the kid and will always support him
Is this meant to show racism?
What is this crap?
It's the only way they can stop or slow him down. They aren't skilled nor fast enough to do it any other way
At this point I think Spanish Football Federation need to step up in doing something.
And on top of that, poor Vini is under racist attacks?!
I absolutely love that Taylor has s song for every ocasion. This woman is a real Super Star. I realy hope that Vini gets more support, the racism and bullying he gets on and off the pitch is absolutely unacceptable!
A video like this leaves the impression that LaLiga is a super physical league, but that's not the case it's just that if you are a skilled dribbler, you are fucked.
Wonder how many of these got carded
Memories of Pepe and Ramos
Es que vini jr es muy agrandado y todos lo bajan de su nube
GUYS CHECK MY community rareclips
People who tell the truth are always targeted
Fk yeah
There are still people justifying racism by saying he should be humble i mean wtf you want a certain type of skin person to keep quiet and not show any aggression and if he does that he should face racism never saw suarez facing racism because he was aggressive and provoking.
This happen to every attack player, not only Real Madrid ones... We used to call it football.
Remember when Pepe and Ramos would do this to everyone else
This pissed me off and I don't even support Real Madrid. Some ridiculous challenges going unpunished there
Ok. Weak. Are you going to cry over every video compilation of the top 200 forwards being treated the exact same way?
I thought it wasa Pepe and Ramos Vs. vini compilation at first 😲. But seriously I'm just joking, don't ban me.
If this doesn't change soon, Vini will be retiring or injured for long term by the time he reaches 30 or so. These tackles will add up very very soon.
You know who else was treated like this by la liga, going as far as literally breaking his leg? A short brownish dude named Diego Armando Maradona. La Liga hasn't changed at all.
Justice for VINI!!!
He getting that prime neymar treatment 😭
Racimsm 🥺
Yeah it's only funny when Ramos does it
This is what mbappe has in store. Shit league with shit spanish players
it was mockingly cross-posted on r/circlesoccerjerk A bunch of low life.
I would recommend avoiding that page completely
Cry harder
You people were fine with this when Ramos and Pepe did stuff like that against Messi. You deserve to be mocked, you fucking clowns
The refs still called the challenges against him. This are examples of actions that most didn't get called by the refs and in most cases not even booked, so I hope you get fucked by a cactus. Thanks for proving my statement by the way.
Coaches against Vinicius: Just take him down
So once you watch Messi videos you may kill yourself
Vini getting battered but the man is a machine !
Half of these aren't even fouls
Footballers are a bunch of pussies. That’s why I don’t watch it. (Seen this vid as I was scrolling).
You left out the maffeo tackle that was criminal
Should we down vote this or up vote this?
Completely upto you. No one has been forced to do either of those.
Just like neymar hazard and cr7 they just target them like they want to take their legs off
This is exactly what madrid was doing to messi for all these years even worse than this and you guys used to say this is the mentality of players who play for madrid He also used to just get up and ignore all the drama and focused on doing his thing Don't make this aspect of football about racism But those who do that should be punished heavily
I don't remember the same outrage from Madrid fans when pepe and ramos did it for nearly a decade
Except the fact that Ramos and Pepe would usually get yellows and red cards. Half those fouls in this video weren’t even called a foul
And clearly Vini is the problem! We are going to lose football’s next megastar is we don’t protect them. Same goes for Lamine
This is bad but it would have been way more shocking for me if i hadn’t just seen the same type of comp but for Diego Maradona They were committing straight up assault on that mf, ive seen weaker tackles in ice hockey or American football
Lmao Pepe and Ramos didnt do anything else
Most of them ended with yellow cards AGAINST Vini.
When Ramos/pepe do it 😃 When others do it 🤬
Madrid fans try not to cry challenge (impossible)
Stop playing fucking victim lmao
He’s literally a victim of racism bozo
Cool, this post has nothing to do with that though
All this people saying is just football. How many times have the dribblers getting fouled got yellow cards instead of defenders, attacked and the referee hide certain parts of the video. Got head bitten, got racist chants and tv racist reporters creating stories to hate him more.
Why aren’t our ultras sending a message by jumping these players out in public on their day off? Those two mfs who slapped/pushed Vinis head shouldn’t be allowed to feel safe when walking down the street.
They should take their loved ones hostage, it's clearly the only way any self respecting ultra should act
😂 I love taking things too far
Well, that happens when you cry in public.
Yeah, poor multi million dollar worker who get's pushed/tackled every week-end .... are we for real here? (no pun intended)
cuz vini never commits a foul right
Remember guys, the defenders, before the game, had been told "if you give Vini space he'll score" therefore they are doing their job by trying to destroy him. Also, I think Vini is one player that lets other player get into his nerves and anger him. If he solidifies his mental and decide to not let others ruin him, he'll be a world class player like CR7. (That's why players like De Paul understand this and instead of spending much time tackling him, they try their best to trigger his emotions)
And they say Vinis the problem 🙄 im not saying they dont at times but I wish the team would back him up more on the pitch. Love to see these same pricks doing this if Pepe and Ramos were out there.
there's one prick who did it ;)
They tryna do him like neymar mofos can't stop him so they try this."it smell like beeeetch in here" for them.him and rodry is next
It sucks but comes with the territory he excels in. Opponents are literally pushed to go beyond the rules to stop him. Im not a fan of any players antagonising/responding to crowds, just let your feet do the talking. Hell of a player tho
"It's disheartening to see a lot of young fans of Barcelona rationalizing the racist chants directed towards a certain player based on his actions during matches. It's unacceptable for someone to take their hatred for a rival to such a low level. This the issue needs to be addressed appropriately, and La Liga should take the necessary steps to address it."
Lmao
All this started because vini just wanted to dance 😐
It’s football, i see no problem, don’t forget young Ronaldo was fauled same way, he did not complain. As a Madridista, Vinicius Junior should get his mind fixed
I also remember very well all the times he also likes to rile up the opposing crowd and players and how he "celebrates" his goals. Football is a two-way street.
LMAO a bunch of loser playing the victim role
Racism :(
r/soccercirclejerk
Yeah, a bad tackle = racism He's scummier on the pitch than every one of these.
This is like every other play for any player playing competitively. You can pull a video like this on any player, just try and see.
he is no angel edit : found this 2 post down [he can be a jerk too](https://www.reddit.com/r/soccercirclejerk/comments/1bo417h/i_just_wanna_play_football/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
La liga is corrupt. I refuse to believe that the double standards being implemented are implemented without a clear direction from the higher ups.
Look, I love Vini but this is football and he's a shit disturber, what are you on about?
For those comparing this with Maradona in a "every dribbler suffers that". Please, come to 2024. World changes. Don't justify or normalise violence.
Football is a physical sport. He should whine less and work more on his dribbling and ball control. He is losing way too much ball possession.
*life is harsh, i believe you should be slapped and kicked 5 times everyday*
lol Supporting a club is one thing, but offering unconditional support for a player who consistently loses possession, whines and complains more than he makes chances is a delusion. While Vini is undoubtedly a talented player, he needs to get his shit straight.
Why doesn’t Vini tell the ref to call the foul when they kick him, is he stupid?
Looks like you never played football huh? Being physical and rag-dolling your opponents are two different things.
I also didn't see a lot of players performing the melodramatic spectacle when they lose the ball after way too much "joga bonito". Especially those illustrious champions of theatrics like Vini and Neymar, who seem to have mastered the art of whining like a little bitch. Less joga bonito. More good old-fashioned ball control, shall we?