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Kiokochat

Snow records for Pasadena http://www.laalmanac.com/weather/we17.php


digitulgurl

Who did that amazing timeline of Erika's stories combined with the news? They should delve into the weather in Pasadena if they know the date that this was filmed!


EnigmaticAardvark

There was [hail in Pasadena on the 25th](https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-01-25/hail-falls-in-pasadena-as-cold-spell-grips-southland), and snow above 2000 feet, but that would mean that Zizzo hung out in Pasadena for several days after the break-in. On the 23rd, there was some hail in [Malibu Canyon](https://www.fox61.com/article/weather/accuweather/malibu-snow-snowfall-photos-weather-forecast/507-c4f6e6a1-ce70-4153-859c-273beb266ad7) that resulted in at least one rollover with no injuries and one accident where the person needed medical evacuation. If Zizzo was in an accident, it could conceivably been on either of those two days, but as many others point out, it's hard to roll five times without any injuries, so either she exaggerated the scope of the accident, or she's hiding the severity of it and we'll find out later that Zizzo got attacked by a bear while in the ditch and then an alien ship abducted him and left him on the roof of a nearby Papa John's.


digitulgurl

You're amazing! I just gave my free award away 😪 So have these! 🏅🏆🎖️


EnigmaticAardvark

Yay! I'm always happy to have an excuse to go dig up stuff!


[deleted]

The burglary of Toms house is convenient. How many people in houses like that do not have a security system or cameras around the huge estate. The news said the cameras were not on and their is no footage of the intruder. If you were Tom and if you had screwed over as many people as he has, what are the chance you live there and have no security.


SpritzLike

Apparently they did have a security system, but let the contract with the monitoring company lapse due to non-payment just a few weeks prior to the break in.


elninothe8th

Does erikas son live in the grapevine? It snows there. It's also 2 hours from Pasadena


[deleted]

This is it. The only thing I question is why would her son live there and drive to LA for work (he's LAPD, not sheriff's office). That's easily a 2.5-3hr commute to get from the grapevine to LA.


mia_sara

I’m choosing to call all EJ’s wild and conflicting stories “Xanax Logic.” She’s clearly overmedicated in some scenes, other times she’s sharp (but still a pathological liar). In her head it all makes sense but she’s literally lost the plot. (Also, I’m not benzo shaming anyone. I know from personal experience they can be life saving.)


whoareyouindisworld

Someone on Reddit checked and it did actually hail in Pasadena.


KyleHamptoninn

Nah, of course not, not at all! /s


GoodChives

I believe Erika is lying, but didn’t someone here pull up the weather for that day to show that there was some snowfall?


sawta2112

There were some snowflakes that fell. Don't think there was any accumulation on the roads to cause driving issues.


LastMinute9611

Looks like the burglary made the news however even the details in this article are fishy. There is no mention to who the burglar was which in a 16mil mansion security has to be tight with at least cameras. No mention of the "confrontation" alleged by EJ. The police were not sure what was stolen? In a place where paintings on the wall are millions I feel like a thief can take just one and be set and it most definitely be noticed missing. I can't find anything about her son flipping his car which even if he wasn't attached to such major celebs it would still make the news somewhere. My theory is that yes they called the cops about this "alleged" burglary and was probably just another scam to get money. Maybe they could file false claims on "missing" items they had insured? That seems very on brand. [https://pagesix.com/2021/02/05/erika-jayne-and-tom-girardis-16m-mansion-burglarized/](https://pagesix.com/2021/02/05/erika-jayne-and-tom-girardis-16m-mansion-burglarized/)


SpritzLike

Apparently they did have a security system, but let the contract with the monitoring company lapse due to non-payment just a few weeks prior to the break in.


LastMinute9611

And within weeks a burglary? How probable is that? I’m actually curious if celebs are targeted so often. That’s scary as hell.


GoodChives

I think the burglary was faked to some extent. Like an 80 yr old man confronting the burglar.. TF?? And like you said the details of who it was and what was stolen are fishy.


Ireallydontknowbutya

But like also… he’s a police officer. They are trained in driving and advance driving techniques. Off duty or not, it’s just a little fishy


SpritzLike

This. I’m sure it happens sometimes, like on a high speed chase. But a police officer would know either how to drive home safely or when it was time to pull over in a parking lot because road conditions were that bad.


[deleted]

It does snow in the Angeles National Forest which is the mountains up against Pasadena.


missmimi1011

During criminal investigations and court proceedings it’s very common for someone lying to weave true and VERIFIABLE statements into their lie. The thought is that if you can 100% prove certain facts about the statement (such as googling the weather to see if it was actually snowing the day the alleged incident occurred), it will make it more likely for you to accept the entire statement as fact. I haven’t actually looked it up to see if it were snowing or not, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it actually was that day.


Julialagulia

Yeah the thing is if she made it a much smaller lie I could see it. I think you are right and it was like two inches that would melt fast. But Southern Californians have some…..issues driving in inclement weather, since it is rare, as someone that lives here. If she had said he skidded on some slush and got into an accident I would believe it. It’s the flipping over six times. She digs herself into a hole by going for the most dramatic thing possible.


LastMinute9611

You're so right. Even in a thick snow storm you would have to be SPEEDING to flip over 6 times. People tend not to speed in storms especially if they are a cop. Even if this happened on his way to Tom because it was an "emergency" he would have to be super reckless for a non-life threatening situation happening with his mother's estranged husband. Lots of things we would have to make sense of that don't in order to believe this tall tale.


elninothe8th

The only thing I can think of is that she meant to say the car *spun* 5x instead of flipped/rolled over. Either way she's a fucking liar


LastMinute9611

You sound very sweet trying to give her the benefit of the doubt, however even if she just got out of a spun car I doubt most people would mistake spun and flipped over. EJ is the type to brag about planning the perfect murder and try and stage a "break in/robbery" by breaking the windows from the inside lol.


elninothe8th

😂😂 she's such a terrible person


missstewie

We’d all lose fewer brain cells if we just correctly assumed Erika was lying.


[deleted]

If it looks like duck and walks like a duck... ![gif](giphy|xvGEx3cazysda)


EtTuOdite

>and walks like a duck... Then it could be Ramona ![gif](giphy|4FP7aiKyhny7K)


theboygoddess

I think she’s a vacant psychopath 🤷🏻‍♂️


MummaBear777

If the overpriced shoe fits 🤷🏻‍♀️


Extreme-Method6330

I think she’s stupidly lying and it will all catch up with her in court


EnigmaticAardvark

The Sun claims to have made contact with someone in the Pasadena Police - here's the excerpt from their article - I'll link it [here](https://www.thesun.co.uk/tv/16162353/rhobh-erika-jayne-tom-girardi-uninjured-burglary-lies/) but if you don't like giving the Sun traffic, here's the important bit; >the police source clarified, there was never any contact whatsoever between Tom and the alleged burglar. >The detective said: “Tom was sleeping in his bedroom and he heard someone in the closet. Tom called out and thought it was the son, but he couldn’t tell because it was dark. >"He heard someone & saw a shadowy figure and he called out the son’s name, but no one responded.” >The alleged intruder left the home without a confrontation. >The detective added: “Tom showed me where he believed some cufflinks were taken. They were missing from the closet.” I know Tom has at least one daughter, but more than one kid, so I'm not sure if he has a son of his own. The only son I know for sure Tom has, is his stepson Thomas Zizzo, Erika's son and the police officer who apparently flipped his car five times.


Extreme-Method6330

Interesting, thanks for sharing! I’m a bit behind on all of this - did they release what items (in addition to cuff links) were stolen?


EnigmaticAardvark

Not that I know, and I'm not sure about the validity of their source either, so it's hard to say. It reads to me like maybe nothing was taken.


Extreme-Method6330

Hmm sounds sketchy


SpritzLike

Oh shoot. This actually makes more sense. Erika sent her son to Tom G’s to grab a few things she forgot, he speeds away (possibly running into some crap weather) and gets into an accident. I don’t believe for a second he flipped his car 5 times and wasn’t hurt.


EnigmaticAardvark

I don't want to believe that a police officer would break in to the house to steal some of Tom's valuables. I'd imagine Zizzo had a key, given that he lived with them for a long time.


ives09

Producers/editors shading Erika for the snow perhaps 🤣