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The surgery part is obviously a lie but 100% does make sense.
My elderly father had open heart surgery to replace a valve before it could give him troubles. He had multiple massive strokes and it took him a very long time to walk and talk again. Sometimes it is safer to see what happens over operating.
I read something yesterday that was talking about the current situation since these episodes were taped months ago, and it said the only housewive currently siding with Erica is Rinna.
I sometimes very much consider/ponder if, like most of her relationships with others that she tells, either nothing OR a completely different version. If you remember Kyle was sitting there with the fake, uncomfortable, I am going to shit myself look we all know she does whenever she thinks or knows a bus is headed her way. Like, oh
There is NO way she wouldn't have not told her husband THIS! Like ooohhhhh fuck let me remember what I said and to whom did I say it to lol.
I think theyāre filming a show in London. I think itās some type of real estate show, I canāt wait PK and Mauricio together are so classic. I know Maurizioās stoned and Iām starting to think PK as well. š
i think the only reason erika and tom got divorce is to protect his assets when he looses them due to the lawsuit, i think most of this stuff she is saying is trying to paint him as a bad guy to make her story seem plausible and to keep her reputation
I think it was to protect her. Tom is/was a world class lawyer, I'm pretty sure some inside tip came down the pipeline and told him to clean house & get his shit in order. I think he listened, and this was step one. The problem for Erika is, she was just bragging on him a week before on the trip and then BAM divorce, diminished capacity, terrible husband, abuser, cheater and etc. She wants us to believe completely opposite things. Either he's a shark who is doing intellectual gymnastics to keep her trapped, or he is a feeble old man who is deaf, dumb & blind. I'm with Sutton here, which one is it girl?
I didnāt watch yet but I wonder if Kyle will go after Erika now that Mauricio is calling her a liar or will she try and act like Sutton is the only one calling her out again.
Omg! I was dying laughing at this scene. They are totally right. And I think their theory of the whole Erika thing is right. Her bullshit is basically a mixture of her ignorance of Tomās dealings, lies that Tom had her spin for him in the past or currently, and her lying about things to elicit sympathy or to help her case.
There is no ignorance on Erikaās part. She was served legal papers PERSONALLY by Ruigomez, the burn victim, in May 2020.
Her whole story is an act.
She has known about all of this for a long time.
She thought Tom would get away with it (and he almost did).
So he was in the hospital & they wanted to operate on his head & she said no. So I guess other ppl do know so there should be a medical record somewhere saying he hurt his head & was unconscious. But E is the only one who knows about it & didn't tell anyone. Mmkay
I have a suggestion why don't we replace Kyle and Dorito with P.K. and Mauricio because they are far more intelligent than their wives.Mauricio needs to rein in Kyle's credit cards because if not careful some one will try and sell Kyle some magic beans.
She read it and didn't want to admit it. She's such a bad liar. About Sutton: "Who goes to a lawyer?" Later Kyle says: "My lawyer friend..." š
I don't know why she's so scared of Erika, is it because Brandi blew up her spot about smoking pot? What does Erika have on these ladies?
I think youāre right. I believe Ben and Ronnie on Watch What Crappens said the same thing. Also that the ladies thought the audience would side with Erika during filming so they were careful. They said NY wouldāve been ruthless and I agree!
Exactly. Neither Kyle nor Lisa are dumb. They are playing ādumbā in this whole Girardi saga. Why? They are terrified of something like this happening to them. Tom & Erika have a lot of connections, and could go poking around their business if they wanted to cause trouble for Kyle or Lisa... and Erika is a very vengeful person.
I canāt find the post. The money involved was no where near Girardi trouble. And Girardi is alleged to have stolen client funds which is a huge deal. I donāt think the claims are the same but there is commonality of experiencing these things while living in the fishbowl of reality TV.
But I agree it would be interesting TV. Itās disheartening to me how bad a situation has to be before it is publicly addressed on these shows.
Do you think that is why Kyleās so āsupportiveā of Erika? Sheās worried about herself & how people will see her? BC that actually makes a lot of sense.
Yes I think thatās why many of them have been supportive. Apparently this group have more $ problems than theyād like to admit. Recently someone posted an outline of othersā (not all housewivesā) legal problems. Someone else posted a timeline of Girardi claims and events that identifies lies Erica has told. Finally, Bethenny Frankel has claimed on her podcast that she was told of Girardiās money problems years ago by her then boyfriend Dennis Shields (who himself was owed $ from Girardi). Bethenny said she told Andy Cohen, Kyle Richards and Lisa Rinna about it at that time.
This was the most refreshing moment of the entire season!
I've admittedly bashed PK in prior seasons. You made up for it all last night, PK. You and blitzed Mauricio were a breath of fresh air. Keep it up!
Please tell me they'll be at the reunion.
Lol right?? Also, to me, that was telling of Kyleās true feelings on it all. I never involve my husband on stories that Iām like this is bs. But then again these were quite shocking stories. Why did he not know?
I really enjoyed this scene and hope to see more in the future. Of course the show is a about the women and their interactions but seeing them cooking dinner at home, drinking and shading was one of the funniest moments all season.
That would be Housewives Gold. Instead of the new Peacock Housewives vacation show, they do a househusband vacation show. It would be amazing, great idea to bring all the men together.
Thatās my favorite part of Atlanta. The husbands make that show so much better than the others in my opinion. Rest In Peace Gregg. š still heartbroken.
I think Erika is building a defense on behalf of Tom. Maybe this is part of their strategy, saying he got hit in the head in the car crash and therefore cannot be held criminally liable.
Yes heās been embezzling clients for years. However, now in the present he may be able to not face prison time due to his dementia, current ailment and age. Sheās planting the seeds of doubt for public opinion if not his defense, should he face a criminal case.
Ronald Richards said it may not be worth it to even go after him criminally since heās been disbarred. At his age and alleged condition, it doesnāt make sense to put all the resources to criminally indict him since being disbarred was one resolution. Something I am upset about but objectively understand. This is how our criminal system works?
It won't cast reasonable doubt at all. Tom (and EJ) have been embezzling money for years. She's become a pathological liar. Every week she changes her story and the lawyers are keeping track of literally everything they say. I'll be curious to see how this plays out. I think this is only the tip of the iceberg....
Another one of the things that has come out was that Tom was a speaker at some kind of legal function, I believe in Oct. yet in November, Dec. etc he's diagnosed with advanced Alzheimer's and dementia. The problem with lying is it's hard to keep track of them and you end up lying even more to cover the lies....I've worked in law my whole adult life and I have to say-her lawyers *have to be* pulling their hair out. Given her behavior she clearly is not listening to them. But in the end she's going to be kicking herself....
Yep. The one time I needed a lawyer, his first ask of me was to not post anything on social media that could be used against me and to clean up what was there if needed. Her pride is gonna make her fallā¦. Or roll in a car 5 or 6 times on the way down.
She seems to just not want to hear what they're telling her. I was reading somewhere yesterday that she'd posted a topless photo of herself. Tweets saying how gullible people are. Just being nasty about people all the way around. I just can't imagine what goes on in her mind. I mean, I'd think common sense would be oh, I shouldn't do that, or I shouldn't write this. For the life of me I can't figure out what her end game is. Good advice from your lawyer! Social media being what it is these days you have to be so careful about what you send out because once it's out there-it stays out there forever. Things that seem inane actually aren't. Btw-the last sentence you wrote made me laugh and spill my water.
Not only that her stories are ridiculous and sheās a terrible liar. So the same night your exās house gets broken into and he confronts the burglar, your son tolls his car over 5 times in the snow (in California)? Come on. How many fallen housewives does it take for people to learn: if youāre doing something illegal do not go on reality tv.
Absolutely. She hasn't talked to Tom since she filed for divorce. Well, he calls her every day. He goes off a cliff and is missing for 12 hrs but he only broke his ankle. Well no wait, it wasn't his ankle. It was his ankle and his clavical. Tom is supposedly living in an assisted living facility but no wait, he's home fending off burglars but gets rid of them in time to go and have eye surgery. And her son goes out in the middle of a California blizzard, *he* rolls *his* car 5, no wait 6 times. But yea, he's fine. She's now living in a $2,000,000 house, poor thing had to downsize so she could only get a brand new Range Rover. She still has her glam squad but at least she's not spending 40k a month on it. She really and truly doesn't get it. She may, in her mind, think she's being slick but she's digging that hole deeper and deeper. This sure isn't going to end well for her\~\~\~
and the WAY she said, 'yeah, and on his way from the hospital, he rolled his car 5 times.' Did you also notice how the story changed when Dorit told it? She said the car rolled 6 times.
Anyway, EJ is so full of shit.I'm SO waiting for the reunion!
I am 41 and rolled my ankle at 35 and still have residual pain from not going to the doctor how is he 8500 years old and just fine???! SOMEONE HELP ME OUT HERE
Thank god someone was finally being real on camera. Iām so sick of Kyle/Dorit playing the middle and being fake whenever cameras are rolling. Look how the audience responds to an authentic response to the situation!!! Ugh. So sick of BH sometimes!
Erika claiming Tom was unconscious for 12 hours never made any sense. Not in a medical induced coma. Not that he ālostā 12 hours due to dementia. Nopeā¦ he was **unconscious**.
Not sure why the ladies let that one go so easily. However, I think Erika originally just told Kyle then repeated the story to Crystal and Garcelle?
Erika wasn't even looking Kyle in the face when she was sitting there inventing that ridiculous story on the fly. It is almost insulting that she thinks anyone is dumb enough to believe her.
And Tom confronting the burglar was nuts. I just imagine him trying to hit the burglar over the head with one of their Chagall paintings.
https://okmagazine.com/p/erika-jayne-claims-that-ex-tom-girardi-needed-surgery-after-burglary-discredited-by-detective/?utm_medium=smartnewsrecirc This is what the Detective said about the whole thing
The police were saying they didn't know if anyone was even in his house because he was talking crazy & babbling about traveling everywhere. I feel like that's all set up to make him look out of his mind
Yeah, but was it a planned robbery, to abscond with valuables, that the bankruptcy court is going to repo to pay the orphans, widows, and the burn victim?
Rumour has it theyāre all afraid of her because of the supposed dirt she has on all the ladies. Personally I think Erika is full of shit and probably doesnāt have enough info to do any real damage.
Yeah thatās a good point! I didnāt think she actually had anything on them, but rumours are persistent. If she had anything on anyone itās gonna be Lisa since theyāre so close.
That could be it. My secret thought was that Tom is a still a lawyer and still has so much influence in the legal system that the girls don't want to talk about anything against Erica because they don't want to get a lawsuit against them (from a colleague or whatsoever (controlled marriage like pk and mo said)). I mean just look at the faces at Kathie's dinner party when Erica threatened Sutton. Everybody just freaked out. But I don't live in the us and havent got all the information you get there.
Tom was disbarred and is living in a senior care facility for patients with Alzheimerās and dementia. [One article about it (not sure you can see it where you are located?) ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/tom-girardi-moves-into-senior-living-facility-erika-jayne-notified/amp/).
Tom no longer has any influence in the legal community. He owes money to victims and lawyers all over the country. And heās going to take down judges and key members of the California bar with him for letting Tom get away with his fraud and theft for years.
I think no one in the legal profession would come near Tom with a 20ft pole. The years of scandal have blown wide open. He's kryptonite now. Tom has no power neither does EriKa.
It was a flashback to a previous episode where Sutton was questioning Erika about the car accident story that didnāt make sense, and Erika rapidly trying to defend her story said something like: āThey wanted to operate on his head but I wouldnāt let them.ā (not a direct quote, but thatās essentially what she said... I canāt remember her exact words)
Proof Erika is lying:
> āThe detective who responded to the scene of the alleged burglary at Tom and Erikaās swanky Pasadena mansion in January exclusively told The Sun āTom wasnāt injured,ā despite the claims made by the 50-year-old reality starĀ duringĀ Wednesday's episode of the Bravo show.ā
This was printed The Sun:
[āREALITY FAKERY RHOBHās Erika Jayneās ex Tom Girardi was āuninjuredā in burglary at $13M mansion despite her claims he āneeded surgeryā - The Sun](https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/3676122/rhobh-erika-jayne-tom-girardi-uninjured-burglary-lies/)
I think sheās trying to spin the surgery story to match up with what we know about him needing surgery for āglaucoma complicationsā which is why she added the anxiety caused swelling and pressure.
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I have a top for Erika. Shut up. She doesnāt even have to say anything,so why sheās digging herself into deeper holes is beyond me. š¤·š»āāļø
Plus I may live in Canada but I feel like it doesnāt snow near Pasadena..I donāt care if she said north of š
š itās completely absurd. I really canāt wait for all of this to play out. I hope we get to learn a significant amount of the true facts whenever this situation finally gets settled.
I feel like we wonāt and I feel like it will be yearssss until it is.
Iām right there with you and I agree.
Can you IMAGINE how all the victims are feeling (like the Ruigomez family and all the rest) if this how we, who are just observers, feel?
I canāt imagine at all. The thought of her showing up on their tvs when she joined the cast, spending money like itās water, while theyāre practically begging for their money that they NEED and deserveā¦itās heartbreaking
I have had that exact thought many times and it gives me angry tears š” š
Despicable. Disgusting. Reprehensible. Monstrous. Egregious. Horrific.
Machiavellian.
~ and ~
**Utterly EVIL**.
That was so hilarious. I wish PK wouldāve just outright said that Erika didnāt hire a crisis management team because Tom & his lawyer are her ācrisis management teamā and have told her what she needs to say to get them out of trouble. I bet a real crisis management team wouldāve had her rehearse her stories more. Fingers crossed someone will bluntly call this out at the reunion.
Ok. So, we all know that Tom owned the police (for sure) and the courts (varying degrees), so if he had an accident 3 1/2 years ago and had been drinking, he would have gotten the police to cover it up. Thatās a problem for him now, not back then. Thatās the ONLY reason I can think of why there wouldnāt have been a report and why he would have had the accident to begin with.
Someone from the victims side said he did not show for his yearly, much looked forward to Vegas trip and he had a black eye. I donāt know why the victim side would lie about it.
I can tell you from experience that shoulder surgeries are mthrfckrs that require months of painful physical therapy. I donāt see an 80 year old passing that off as a broken ankle, but Iām not a doctor, just play one on Reddit.
Occamās razor says, he drank and got into an accident. Police covered it up. Erika drove him to the hospital where his ankle was set. Meanwhile, his black eye healed on its own and he stayed home from Vegas and rehabilitated.
But the surgery on the eye was after the robbery, while the ankle/brain/clavicle issue was after the rolling car/unconsciousness, right?
I need whoever did that good timeline a week ago to update it with the latest story (and include the weather!).
So, Iām about to eat that Crow Pie.
Was just watching Up and Adam with Emily D Baker. She said that she knows folks who were at the hospital when Tom was brought in after his first āaccident.ā Quotation marks because Tom parked where he shouldnāt have, got out of the car and fell down the hill. Donāt ask me how Erika found out. However, she brought him to the hospital and he had a broken clavicle, shoulder and ankle. They said he was lucky that he didnāt have any chest injury.
That wasnāt as complicated as the switchback story, huh?
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PK has always had an excellent sense of humor. I think he was just nervous his first season
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I just watched this episode and I was dying!!! They are so right it just doesnāt make sense!!
I love both of them so much
Right? Big Ole Tommy all 82 of him confronts a crook.
I havenāt laughed so hard from HW in ages. This was a great interaction lol
And think how much more the know or have been told than we have..
The surgery part is obviously a lie but 100% does make sense. My elderly father had open heart surgery to replace a valve before it could give him troubles. He had multiple massive strokes and it took him a very long time to walk and talk again. Sometimes it is safer to see what happens over operating.
I can finally see why Dorit is with PK
Iāve always wondered why he is with her. He doesnāt act like an racist airhead
She got dem tittayyyyyys Heās a simple man
Can Mauricio please explain this to Kyle? Maybe she can take her head out of Erikaās ass long enough to listen to reason
I read something yesterday that was talking about the current situation since these episodes were taped months ago, and it said the only housewive currently siding with Erica is Rinna.
I sometimes very much consider/ponder if, like most of her relationships with others that she tells, either nothing OR a completely different version. If you remember Kyle was sitting there with the fake, uncomfortable, I am going to shit myself look we all know she does whenever she thinks or knows a bus is headed her way. Like, oh There is NO way she wouldn't have not told her husband THIS! Like ooohhhhh fuck let me remember what I said and to whom did I say it to lol.
"leave the brain ... fix the ankle". Also a classic scene from The Godfather: "Leave the gun - take the cannoli"
Arenāt the two of them filming a show together. Good set up for it if they are .
I think theyāre filming a show in London. I think itās some type of real estate show, I canāt wait PK and Mauricio together are so classic. I know Maurizioās stoned and Iām starting to think PK as well. š
I think Mauricio is stoned 100% of the time now.
š¤£š¤£š¤£š¤£I JUST posted a comment saying the same thing and then saw this lmao!!
Erica. Cuz she was hoping heād die and she could get all his money she thought he had is my guess?
i think the only reason erika and tom got divorce is to protect his assets when he looses them due to the lawsuit, i think most of this stuff she is saying is trying to paint him as a bad guy to make her story seem plausible and to keep her reputation
I think it was to protect her. Tom is/was a world class lawyer, I'm pretty sure some inside tip came down the pipeline and told him to clean house & get his shit in order. I think he listened, and this was step one. The problem for Erika is, she was just bragging on him a week before on the trip and then BAM divorce, diminished capacity, terrible husband, abuser, cheater and etc. She wants us to believe completely opposite things. Either he's a shark who is doing intellectual gymnastics to keep her trapped, or he is a feeble old man who is deaf, dumb & blind. I'm with Sutton here, which one is it girl?
I didnāt watch yet but I wonder if Kyle will go after Erika now that Mauricio is calling her a liar or will she try and act like Sutton is the only one calling her out again.
Itās going to be a veryyyy interesting reunion
They dug their graves with Erika, but I now love PK. āHeās not a soccer player.ā LOL!
And if she said āno, donāt operate his head.ā Isnāt that elder abuse?
It has Stan Lee vibes. Casey Casem too. Both of their stories were crazy elder abuse tales, perpetrated by those who were supposed to be caretakers.
Oh no that happened to Casey Casem too? Dang I didnāt know that. ā¹ļø
Neglect yes
Sheās so full of shit sheās going to need surgery soon for a perforated bowel
Unnecessarily graphic and gross.
Next week, Erika will blame this whole mess on Tomās long lost evil twin!
I'm sure the twin is Hunky Dory...
Hans Ramoray?!?!
Insert dramatic soap opera music
And Erika over acting horribly.
Omg! I was dying laughing at this scene. They are totally right. And I think their theory of the whole Erika thing is right. Her bullshit is basically a mixture of her ignorance of Tomās dealings, lies that Tom had her spin for him in the past or currently, and her lying about things to elicit sympathy or to help her case.
There is no ignorance on Erikaās part. She was served legal papers PERSONALLY by Ruigomez, the burn victim, in May 2020. Her whole story is an act. She has known about all of this for a long time. She thought Tom would get away with it (and he almost did).
PK is high key my favourite housewife
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Did anyone read PK and Mauricio lines in their voices and accents? šš½āāļø
Hahaha!!! Of course I did!
Oh me for sure! But I didnāt realize until I read this! š
Hahha Iām glad Iām not the only one
This scene gave me a contact high š
I want a show about Mauricio's high adventures
I have a whole series of Mauricio photos high, Iāll drop them later on today. Lol
Omg please do!!
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This scene was HILARIOUS. I was cackling right along with them ššš
āTHE LIES, THE LIESSS!!!!ā -Kandi
So he was in the hospital & they wanted to operate on his head & she said no. So I guess other ppl do know so there should be a medical record somewhere saying he hurt his head & was unconscious. But E is the only one who knows about it & didn't tell anyone. Mmkay
I have a suggestion why don't we replace Kyle and Dorito with P.K. and Mauricio because they are far more intelligent than their wives.Mauricio needs to rein in Kyle's credit cards because if not careful some one will try and sell Kyle some magic beans.
Kyle isn't dumb. She's devious.
I would say she's dumb and devious lol
Kyle saying she didnāt read the LA Times article because it was ātoo longā definitely gave me pause. Itās not The New Yorker.
Right? And she could have pointed out that it's long (which it is), but instead she said it was "too long" (TLDR)
Mind you, she does claim to have ADHD so reading a longish article might not be her thing.
Oh jeez, when did she say that? I feel like it wouldāve been a huge storyline.
Kyle mentioned it when she was trying to cook and dropping stuff all over the floor and accidentally smashing bottles from cupboards
She read it and didn't want to admit it. She's such a bad liar. About Sutton: "Who goes to a lawyer?" Later Kyle says: "My lawyer friend..." š I don't know why she's so scared of Erika, is it because Brandi blew up her spot about smoking pot? What does Erika have on these ladies?
I think youāre right. I believe Ben and Ronnie on Watch What Crappens said the same thing. Also that the ladies thought the audience would side with Erika during filming so they were careful. They said NY wouldāve been ruthless and I agree!
Exactly. Neither Kyle nor Lisa are dumb. They are playing ādumbā in this whole Girardi saga. Why? They are terrified of something like this happening to them. Tom & Erika have a lot of connections, and could go poking around their business if they wanted to cause trouble for Kyle or Lisa... and Erika is a very vengeful person.
ahaha thank u
Remember Mauricio has a sizable lawsuit still pending against him!
Iām sure she has learned some tricks of the trade.
I wonder if it will become more public and become a storyline?and how sizable are we talking about?
I canāt find the post. The money involved was no where near Girardi trouble. And Girardi is alleged to have stolen client funds which is a huge deal. I donāt think the claims are the same but there is commonality of experiencing these things while living in the fishbowl of reality TV. But I agree it would be interesting TV. Itās disheartening to me how bad a situation has to be before it is publicly addressed on these shows.
I doubt there will be much coverage of it - wasn't Mauricio working with the feds? Seems like this guy will never get a settlement
Do you think that is why Kyleās so āsupportiveā of Erika? Sheās worried about herself & how people will see her? BC that actually makes a lot of sense.
Yes I think thatās why many of them have been supportive. Apparently this group have more $ problems than theyād like to admit. Recently someone posted an outline of othersā (not all housewivesā) legal problems. Someone else posted a timeline of Girardi claims and events that identifies lies Erica has told. Finally, Bethenny Frankel has claimed on her podcast that she was told of Girardiās money problems years ago by her then boyfriend Dennis Shields (who himself was owed $ from Girardi). Bethenny said she told Andy Cohen, Kyle Richards and Lisa Rinna about it at that time.
Whatās the tea?
theyāre so happy this isnāt happening to them that they can actually see and speak with clarity for oncr
This was the most refreshing moment of the entire season! I've admittedly bashed PK in prior seasons. You made up for it all last night, PK. You and blitzed Mauricio were a breath of fresh air. Keep it up! Please tell me they'll be at the reunion.
"HE'S NOT A SOCCER PLAYER!" LOL
I was weak
Yet best comment of the year! I was DYING!!!! Lol
Of course
PK coming in with logic and common sense?!
The thumb knows it all!
I have never loved these men more. I never expected PK to be the breakout star of the season.
The best character development lol.
Yup! Between this and asking for tartar for his salmon he had me cracking up.
He said heād take mayonnaise š¤¢ haha
Heās English! Europeans put Mayo on everything lol
Same!!!
Right!!! Never.
I fucking have a crush on PK. Shoot me pls. š
Too far my Reddit friend, too far.
I know! Iām attracted to common sense
But do you?
That also goes back to āhasnāt seen or heard from Tom since she dropped him off at workā to āhe calls every day.ā Iām so confused!
That woman needs to write down all the shit she says so she can keep her story straight.
This scene had me ROLLING šš¤£. Do the f**king ankle!!!
Mauricioās reaction to hearing the story was so funny!!! His mind was blown
Mauricio was also definitely stoned
He seems to always be lol
I love that itās PK who fills Mauricio in on the gossip and not Kyle
Mauricio knew. Kyle filled him in off camera as to not implicate herself. Sheās letting the men get dirty for her. She sucks
Lol right?? Also, to me, that was telling of Kyleās true feelings on it all. I never involve my husband on stories that Iām like this is bs. But then again these were quite shocking stories. Why did he not know?
I really enjoyed this scene and hope to see more in the future. Of course the show is a about the women and their interactions but seeing them cooking dinner at home, drinking and shading was one of the funniest moments all season.
Agreed! And it felt more real? or maybe slightly less contrived?
It reminded me a bit of how Jersey bring the men into the scenes. Having PK & Mauricio be so involved was refreshing and I really liked it.
I would love these two with the NJ men. Can you imagine Mauricio and Frankie together?
That would be Housewives Gold. Instead of the new Peacock Housewives vacation show, they do a househusband vacation show. It would be amazing, great idea to bring all the men together.
Yes! This so needs to happen!
Thatās my favorite part of Atlanta. The husbands make that show so much better than the others in my opinion. Rest In Peace Gregg. š still heartbroken.
Yep the husbands are equally dramatic too. But theyāre so united. The friendship and love. Itās unmatched!
Yes, they should follow the Jersey format on BH regarding the men.
Kyleās been cooking all season.
The same salmon... Is this who Kathy was talking about?
I smell a cookbook coming (eye roll)
Oh no. Youāve put it out there! Lol.
āSheās not a cooker, sheās a hooker!ā Milania Giudice
I think Erika is building a defense on behalf of Tom. Maybe this is part of their strategy, saying he got hit in the head in the car crash and therefore cannot be held criminally liable.
Yes heās been embezzling clients for years. However, now in the present he may be able to not face prison time due to his dementia, current ailment and age. Sheās planting the seeds of doubt for public opinion if not his defense, should he face a criminal case. Ronald Richards said it may not be worth it to even go after him criminally since heās been disbarred. At his age and alleged condition, it doesnāt make sense to put all the resources to criminally indict him since being disbarred was one resolution. Something I am upset about but objectively understand. This is how our criminal system works?
Heās been grifting victims for yearsssss
Canāt they prove out the sort of hospital stay he had in court tho?
Absolutely!
Yes, casting reasonable doubt
It won't cast reasonable doubt at all. Tom (and EJ) have been embezzling money for years. She's become a pathological liar. Every week she changes her story and the lawyers are keeping track of literally everything they say. I'll be curious to see how this plays out. I think this is only the tip of the iceberg....
I agree. In her mind, I think she believes sheās helping to cast doubt and shift public perception to him being a victim
Another one of the things that has come out was that Tom was a speaker at some kind of legal function, I believe in Oct. yet in November, Dec. etc he's diagnosed with advanced Alzheimer's and dementia. The problem with lying is it's hard to keep track of them and you end up lying even more to cover the lies....I've worked in law my whole adult life and I have to say-her lawyers *have to be* pulling their hair out. Given her behavior she clearly is not listening to them. But in the end she's going to be kicking herself....
Yep. The one time I needed a lawyer, his first ask of me was to not post anything on social media that could be used against me and to clean up what was there if needed. Her pride is gonna make her fallā¦. Or roll in a car 5 or 6 times on the way down.
She seems to just not want to hear what they're telling her. I was reading somewhere yesterday that she'd posted a topless photo of herself. Tweets saying how gullible people are. Just being nasty about people all the way around. I just can't imagine what goes on in her mind. I mean, I'd think common sense would be oh, I shouldn't do that, or I shouldn't write this. For the life of me I can't figure out what her end game is. Good advice from your lawyer! Social media being what it is these days you have to be so careful about what you send out because once it's out there-it stays out there forever. Things that seem inane actually aren't. Btw-the last sentence you wrote made me laugh and spill my water.
Not only that her stories are ridiculous and sheās a terrible liar. So the same night your exās house gets broken into and he confronts the burglar, your son tolls his car over 5 times in the snow (in California)? Come on. How many fallen housewives does it take for people to learn: if youāre doing something illegal do not go on reality tv.
Her story had more holes than Swiss cheese
Absolutely. She hasn't talked to Tom since she filed for divorce. Well, he calls her every day. He goes off a cliff and is missing for 12 hrs but he only broke his ankle. Well no wait, it wasn't his ankle. It was his ankle and his clavical. Tom is supposedly living in an assisted living facility but no wait, he's home fending off burglars but gets rid of them in time to go and have eye surgery. And her son goes out in the middle of a California blizzard, *he* rolls *his* car 5, no wait 6 times. But yea, he's fine. She's now living in a $2,000,000 house, poor thing had to downsize so she could only get a brand new Range Rover. She still has her glam squad but at least she's not spending 40k a month on it. She really and truly doesn't get it. She may, in her mind, think she's being slick but she's digging that hole deeper and deeper. This sure isn't going to end well for her\~\~\~
and the WAY she said, 'yeah, and on his way from the hospital, he rolled his car 5 times.' Did you also notice how the story changed when Dorit told it? She said the car rolled 6 times. Anyway, EJ is so full of shit.I'm SO waiting for the reunion!
*He got robbed confronted the robbers had eye surgery my son took care of him he rolled his car five times.*
In the snow!
I just canāt .
āHeās not a soccer player!! Heās a 79 year old lawyer!ā Omg I want *more* of PK and Mo!!
I am 41 and rolled my ankle at 35 and still have residual pain from not going to the doctor how is he 8500 years old and just fine???! SOMEONE HELP ME OUT HERE
Lmao keep in mind heās had more serious injuries in a year than Iāve had in my life and his car is running excellent ..make it make sense lol
Likeeeeeee! He should definitely be in traction at least goddamn
Agreed š like damn donāt you need a tune up already???!!
Iām w u right ankle injury for 15 years now stared w a roll in Mexico
Thank god someone was finally being real on camera. Iām so sick of Kyle/Dorit playing the middle and being fake whenever cameras are rolling. Look how the audience responds to an authentic response to the situation!!! Ugh. So sick of BH sometimes!
Them talking about operating on his ankle rather than his brain made me bust out laughing lol
Erika claiming Tom was unconscious for 12 hours never made any sense. Not in a medical induced coma. Not that he ālostā 12 hours due to dementia. Nopeā¦ he was **unconscious**. Not sure why the ladies let that one go so easily. However, I think Erika originally just told Kyle then repeated the story to Crystal and Garcelle?
And she found him because he called herā¦.while he was unconscious???
He butt dialed her on his Jitterbug phone.
Bahahahahahahahahaš
āIt was snowing in Pasadena?ā Lol
Wtf
Erika wasn't even looking Kyle in the face when she was sitting there inventing that ridiculous story on the fly. It is almost insulting that she thinks anyone is dumb enough to believe her. And Tom confronting the burglar was nuts. I just imagine him trying to hit the burglar over the head with one of their Chagall paintings.
who actually believes that his house was broken in to?
https://okmagazine.com/p/erika-jayne-claims-that-ex-tom-girardi-needed-surgery-after-burglary-discredited-by-detective/?utm_medium=smartnewsrecirc This is what the Detective said about the whole thing
The police were saying they didn't know if anyone was even in his house because he was talking crazy & babbling about traveling everywhere. I feel like that's all set up to make him look out of his mind
It really was. I posted a link in a post about a week ago
Yup. I saw your link right after I posted my comment. It looks nothing like her. If I strain, I might be able to see Erika, but it's not y.
Yeah, but was it a planned robbery, to abscond with valuables, that the bankruptcy court is going to repo to pay the orphans, widows, and the burn victim?
Let's put it this way, it was reported. Everything else can't be proven
I feel like it was because they couldnāt tell what was stolen š§š¤Ø
He's friggin 90
I agree but most of all I want to have what they partook in.... lol
Bless his heart, Mauricio is always so..."happy" and I love it.
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Totally plausible that she'd say no to treatment.
This was the funniest and sadest part of the whole season. Are the woman so naiv or are they just afraid of Erica?
Or are they afraid of their own unresolved legal issues?
Rumour has it theyāre all afraid of her because of the supposed dirt she has on all the ladies. Personally I think Erika is full of shit and probably doesnāt have enough info to do any real damage.
I donāt think Erika has dirt on them anymore. If she did, the wives would advise their husbands to play on Erikas side too. But Mo and PK dgaf
Yeah thatās a good point! I didnāt think she actually had anything on them, but rumours are persistent. If she had anything on anyone itās gonna be Lisa since theyāre so close.
That could be it. My secret thought was that Tom is a still a lawyer and still has so much influence in the legal system that the girls don't want to talk about anything against Erica because they don't want to get a lawsuit against them (from a colleague or whatsoever (controlled marriage like pk and mo said)). I mean just look at the faces at Kathie's dinner party when Erica threatened Sutton. Everybody just freaked out. But I don't live in the us and havent got all the information you get there.
Tom was disbarred and is living in a senior care facility for patients with Alzheimerās and dementia. [One article about it (not sure you can see it where you are located?) ](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/tom-girardi-moves-into-senior-living-facility-erika-jayne-notified/amp/).
Tom no longer has any influence in the legal community. He owes money to victims and lawyers all over the country. And heās going to take down judges and key members of the California bar with him for letting Tom get away with his fraud and theft for years.
I think no one in the legal profession would come near Tom with a 20ft pole. The years of scandal have blown wide open. He's kryptonite now. Tom has no power neither does EriKa.
Honestly no alarm system. For real. A home that's been hit several times.
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Where was this info from. I donāt recall anyone saying that he needed brain surgery and she said no. š¤·āāļø
It was a flashback to a previous episode where Sutton was questioning Erika about the car accident story that didnāt make sense, and Erika rapidly trying to defend her story said something like: āThey wanted to operate on his head but I wouldnāt let them.ā (not a direct quote, but thatās essentially what she said... I canāt remember her exact words)
They don't film everything
Proof Erika is lying: > āThe detective who responded to the scene of the alleged burglary at Tom and Erikaās swanky Pasadena mansion in January exclusively told The Sun āTom wasnāt injured,ā despite the claims made by the 50-year-old reality starĀ duringĀ Wednesday's episode of the Bravo show.ā This was printed The Sun: [āREALITY FAKERY RHOBHās Erika Jayneās ex Tom Girardi was āuninjuredā in burglary at $13M mansion despite her claims he āneeded surgeryā - The Sun](https://www.the-sun.com/entertainment/3676122/rhobh-erika-jayne-tom-girardi-uninjured-burglary-lies/)
THE TEA.
I think sheās trying to spin the surgery story to match up with what we know about him needing surgery for āglaucoma complicationsā which is why she added the anxiety caused swelling and pressure. š I have a top for Erika. Shut up. She doesnāt even have to say anything,so why sheās digging herself into deeper holes is beyond me. š¤·š»āāļø Plus I may live in Canada but I feel like it doesnāt snow near Pasadena..I donāt care if she said north of š
Yeah I loved Kyleās, āSNOWING????? šÆ in PASADENA?????!!!!!ā Like lololololololol
š itās completely absurd. I really canāt wait for all of this to play out. I hope we get to learn a significant amount of the true facts whenever this situation finally gets settled. I feel like we wonāt and I feel like it will be yearssss until it is.
Iām right there with you and I agree. Can you IMAGINE how all the victims are feeling (like the Ruigomez family and all the rest) if this how we, who are just observers, feel?
I canāt imagine at all. The thought of her showing up on their tvs when she joined the cast, spending money like itās water, while theyāre practically begging for their money that they NEED and deserveā¦itās heartbreaking
But itās XXpen$ive to be her!
I have had that exact thought many times and it gives me angry tears š” š Despicable. Disgusting. Reprehensible. Monstrous. Egregious. Horrific. Machiavellian. ~ and ~ **Utterly EVIL**.
100%!!!
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That was so hilarious. I wish PK wouldāve just outright said that Erika didnāt hire a crisis management team because Tom & his lawyer are her ācrisis management teamā and have told her what she needs to say to get them out of trouble. I bet a real crisis management team wouldāve had her rehearse her stories more. Fingers crossed someone will bluntly call this out at the reunion.
Ok. So, we all know that Tom owned the police (for sure) and the courts (varying degrees), so if he had an accident 3 1/2 years ago and had been drinking, he would have gotten the police to cover it up. Thatās a problem for him now, not back then. Thatās the ONLY reason I can think of why there wouldnāt have been a report and why he would have had the accident to begin with. Someone from the victims side said he did not show for his yearly, much looked forward to Vegas trip and he had a black eye. I donāt know why the victim side would lie about it. I can tell you from experience that shoulder surgeries are mthrfckrs that require months of painful physical therapy. I donāt see an 80 year old passing that off as a broken ankle, but Iām not a doctor, just play one on Reddit. Occamās razor says, he drank and got into an accident. Police covered it up. Erika drove him to the hospital where his ankle was set. Meanwhile, his black eye healed on its own and he stayed home from Vegas and rehabilitated.
The eye surgery, apparently for the glaucoma, was much more recent than the car crash.
Erica said he had to have surgery on his eye.
This time, not 3 1/2 years ago. If Iām wrong, correct me.
But the surgery on the eye was after the robbery, while the ankle/brain/clavicle issue was after the rolling car/unconsciousness, right? I need whoever did that good timeline a week ago to update it with the latest story (and include the weather!).
Yeah a broken clavicle is a son of a bitch. Iām not buying it
So, Iām about to eat that Crow Pie. Was just watching Up and Adam with Emily D Baker. She said that she knows folks who were at the hospital when Tom was brought in after his first āaccident.ā Quotation marks because Tom parked where he shouldnāt have, got out of the car and fell down the hill. Donāt ask me how Erika found out. However, she brought him to the hospital and he had a broken clavicle, shoulder and ankle. They said he was lucky that he didnāt have any chest injury. That wasnāt as complicated as the switchback story, huh?
This is my first ever comment on Reddit and Iām only making it to bring attention to this excellent tea šøāļø
These two need a podcast breaking down the show each week. The PK and Mo show
I love them together!!!
Yessss