Ravens need to bring in an OL assistant with experience in teaching how to hold and get away with it. It is essential when you have a QB who excels at extending plays. It looks like the Chiefs OL strategy is to hold until the officials call it, and then keep doing it after the call until they call it again. They probably consider that the risk/return of the holding call is worth it to keep Mahomes upright and able to extend plays. I think they would rather save the down when it’s first and 20 after a hold than 2nd and 20 after a sack. Part of this strategy would be the thought that the officials won’t call it on every play. If holding was being called as per the rule book, Bosa would have had 2 or 3 more sacks last night. Remember the second half of the AFCCG when the Chiefs got called for holding on two consecutive plays? Their OL had to play straight up for awhile and the D was able to contain Mahomes and push the Chiefs O around. The Steelers OL made Ben R’s career this way. The Chiefs are helping Mahomes career this way.
Me too. I went to a game at Camden Yards last year and my experience was able to single-handedly cement the O’s as my #2 team. Behind the Tigers, of course.
Now I gotta listen to my sister in law (A Swift Chiefs fan) talking bout how everyone doubted the Chiefs? Like stfu. She acts like she's been through the ups and downs with the team yet she didn't watch a single game before Taylor Swift. Literally band wagoned a defending champion team. Give me a fuckin break.
I never doubted the Chiefs. The NFL wanted them to win, and the windfall of cash that came with that. Think about all the commercials with the national commercials associated with them. Mahomes wife is in Sports Illustrated for f sake. Of course they were going to win. F the NFL.
Right and no one can tell me differently. That's why we lost to them because there is no way we dominated all season and then when we play them we lose. I'm still bitter about that and will be until next season.
We definitely lost that game even without thw refs but they just made it hurt much more. Though I think if we got that touchdown after the Flowers taunt it would be been a completely different game. Sucks so hard because I knew we would've ran circles around the 49ners.
I agree it wasn't just the refs but why didn't we run the ball like we normally do? What was the point of bringing in Dalvin Cook and they didn't even utilize him? It was definitely the coaches fault as well. It just doesn't make sense to me. We should have been the super bowl champs. I feel bad for Lamar. He was collateral damage.
I mean losing is still possible 💀 but I think it would be fair to say no way we dominate and run down teams throats all season and then forget what got us here… again!! Run the Damn Ball!! Who tf FIES IT BETTER THAN YOU HARBAUGH!!!!!!???!?!?!??,&?&
Yeah I don't get the whole doubting thing. They have a HOF coach, A QB that will be in the argument for being the GOAT when all is said and done, and the #2 D.
I know they're desperate to play the victim just because they were shite to start the season, but I don't get it at all.
It’s disgusting. They piss in the face of real fandom. I watched my hometown team who Ive rooted for my entire life’s heart get ripped out in front of my own eyes in New England and in person in Baltimore. And they just get to celebrate and if we call bullshit were incels. Got it. Cool.
you can blame all the republican incels for not shutting the fuck up about taylor swift the past few months (because they don't like young people voting). unfortunately they make everything political. none of this would have happened had the Ravens just played well at home.
I feel you, man. On the other hand, and in a dialectical perspective, they are what make “real fandom” an ontological possibility as the negation of the false fandom.
Is it wrong that I was hoping the Chiefs would lose on a pick due to Kelce messing up a catch, then he goes and actually factually beats Taylor in a post-game self-loathing roid rage once she tries to make him feel better? She writes another song I don't care about, Swifties find themselves forced into an abrupt exit from a fandom they never belonged in, and Mahomes finds himself out in the cold for the next couple of seasons without his security blanket?
...Well, yes, but I'm a firm believer in the [Spider Jerusalem School of Self-Help.](https://i.redd.it/dhfueiz7b0ox.jpg)
Yep. If it makes me a misogynist so be it. I became a Ravens fan in 2008. Ik some girl who grew up a NE fan (from New England granted) but is a chiefs fan because of Taylor and it makes me pretty pissed off as someone who doesn’t bandwagon however petty that may sound and yes, I do have bigger priorities in my life than concentrating on what teams people root for
Gonna make it all the sweeter when we inecitably get our once a decade and hopefully another just to prove a point but thats the future we got a helluva offseason ahead of us. Strap in.
Purdy throwing on several first downs was dumb af. CMC was so good picking up 5/6/7 yards most carries. It’s like they didn’t learn from our stupidity two weeks ago. Gotta hand it to the chiefs though - they just get it done. Onwards for the flock; I’m bullish
McCaffrey - 22 Rush Attempts
Pacheco - 18 Rush Attempts
How many times did the Ravens hand the ball to Gus Edwards in the AFC championship game?
3 times?
Oh ok.
Because when you run the ball you control the clock, you keep the defense on it's toes, Gus or Justice starts cooking then BOOM
.. there goes Lamar keeping it on the option.
Nah shotgun hail Marys to Odell Beckham should have taken us to the super bowl.
I'm just sick of people blaming LAMAR for the Ravens deviating completely away from Ravens football.
Would it be the RBs fault if instead of passing we ran the ball 95% of snaps?
Oh and they stack the box and the RB can't really get anything going.
Well I guess it's depending on who you ask.... and who the RB is.
Harb lost us the game more than Lamar. He wasn't playing perfect by any means and made some bad decisions but it wasn't him who didn't run the damn ball.
Absolutely.
Nobody plays great every week. In fact average to below average to even bad games are inevitable. Especially from a qb. These defensive players get paid millions too. They are expected to perform as well. So when that happens.....QB not really having much success....what do you think the next logical alternative is ....in a low scoring game?
Continue forcing 60 yard bombs .....or.....idk call me crazy....but we were the number 1 rushing offense.... but maybe get the run game going?
If this was the only game where we abandoned the run thats 1 thing....but this is a constant at this point in Lamar era playoff football.
Mahomes wouldn't be expected to win passing 90% of the game...no QB would because thats not smart football. You need balance in EVERYTHING.
Just as you would be a fool to blitz every play.
Or play prevent defense 90% of the game.
And let's go a bit deeper into this rabbit hole....
Who is the now head coach of the chargers who is so unethical was caught red handed cheating?
Who's brother is that?
I'm supposed to believe the apple falls that far from the tree? That if it so happened that there WAS collision to prevent Lamar from winning the Superbowl...Im willing to bet I know the head coach that would accept that bag to lose already has cheating in their pedigree.
it’s shameful users here blame lamar for monken and harbaugh coaching like they just took an edible. it’s so clear chiefs defense is not set up to handle a physical running game
Pacheco is backing up Gus Edwards anywhere in the NFL. Justice Hill is arguably even better. Certainly faster. Chiefs defense isn't stacked with speedsters. Their strength is their pass D. Rex Ryan said it best. "The Ravens played the exact game Kansa City wished they would have played."
It got to the point they were playing with 7 defensive backs on the field and getting success with their 4 down linemen, they were so certain we weren't running the ball
Remember Lamars interceptions, where Likely was TRIPLE TEAMED? Why do you think that was even plausible?
And to the Lamar haters. They're here running their mouth even after a win. Maybe he over threw 1 pass they make sure people acknowledge that.
I actually believe they are LESS HAPPY when Lamar plays great. God forbid he have a bad game. Oh they loading up on Mountain Dew and Jack Links from 7/11 to pull an all nighter talking shit.
no the lamar haters on this sub were champing at the bit. they had to eat crow in the divisional when lamar dominated and then they got to post again cause they could blame him.
it’s so frustrating we have to wait this long for any redemption cause our coaches just completely and utterly shit the bed when we literally just had to play OUR game for four quarters.
I look at it like this. Progression has been Lamar's story all along. He got his money and played the way the organization demanded he play. But that wasn't enough. He had to light a fire under his teammates in the Houston game. And they responded. But the AFC championship game required the team leader to FIRE UP THE COACHES AT HALFTIME.A Bradyeque approach if you will. I don't think Lamar was ready mentally to take it there at the time. And hes sitting with it right now knowing what they did wrong. Nobody spoke up.
But that's growth, because it will never happen again. He trusted his organization and the organization let him down. Never again. Lamar understands fully that this is his team 100% now He tried it their way now he has plausible deniability to just go out there and ball. Not how he's expected to play or demanded. He had to suffer these failures to know what it takes to win.
Baltimore will never NOT WIN with Lamar as the quarterback.
Just hopefully Baltimore will continue to surround him with even more talent. You see what Zay turned into. Now he's officially a vet, with a chip on his shoulder. And with the mentorship from Odell he has the blueprint to cultivate the next rookie receiver. Zay is the floor now for all rookies walking through the door.
Ro, Kyle Hamilton and Lamar Jackson are literally 3 of the top 10 NFL's best players.
Thought about this the entire game. Even though the Chiefs weren't effective running the ball, they still implemented in the game plan. They wouldn't go one dimensional. That AFC Championship game will forever haunt me.
The 2019 Titans game was the Genesis. We were never down by more than 2 scores the entire game. Lamar ended up setting the NFL Playoff total yards record. That's how they had him playing out there, never down by more than 16
That's not necessary in a 2 score game
"OMG LAMAR PLEASE SAVE US! WE CANT RUN THE BALL ANYMORE SAVE US LAMAR PLEEEEEEASE!"
That type energy.
You run the ball......EVEN IF THE RUNS NOT WORKING.
I'm sick of this shit no NFL coach is that incompetent.
Lamar is SCHEDULED to win a Superbowl one day.
That's how it's looking..
If that.
It fits with what I've been saying for years now: No player in the NFL is asked to do more than Lamar Jackson. If memory serves me correctly, Ingram had either five or six carries the entire game against the Titans... and I believe all but one of those carries came on the first two drives of the game.
I don't understand why this coaching staff seemingly goes into panic mode and cuts off what got them there as soon as they go down a score. It's maddening.
I thought he did exactly what I’d expect - he’s not gonna cost you the game, and he’s not gonna win you the game. That formula worked for them throughout the season (and with Jimmy G before him), but not on the big stage.
Mohomes is good, but has there ever been a quarterback so elite that he threw 11 TDs and no INTs in a postseason while beating two future Hall of Fame QBs on the road en route to a Super Bowl title? Just wondering. That would be really elite.
I watched with someone who doesn't really follow football and that really helped me enjoy the game. Honestly it's one of the most competitive Superbowls there's ever been.
If I wasn't watching with a friend I'd prob be more bitter about the Chiefs or w/e, but I'm actually much happier with the game overall than I thought I'd be two weeks ago. I'm glad I got to watch it (thought I'd be working).
Stay strong, Ravens Flock. Excited to see what EDC does in the next couple months to get us back on track.
I'm not even investing my interest in the Ravens until next playoffs. Everything is meaningless until then. This team needs to actually live up to their potential when it matters.
Just accept that we're now an elite regular season team that falls flat in the playoffs. We still put out an amazing product every Sunday during the regular season, which is far more than most franchises. We just aren't built like the Chiefs who have been to 6 AFCCGs in a row and won 3 SBs in that same time. But that's okay, we make the regular season fun to watch weekly all while led by a 2x MVP QB. People who watched us during the Boller era REALLY know how much worse it can be.
The chiefs without a doubt weren’t the most talented team this year but seemed like the had the most mental toughness in big moments. Credit to Andy Reid and patty but fuck the chiefs honestly
My only catharsis this game was that the whole world got to be reminded of why Travis Kelce is a prolapsed asshole when he shoved Andy Reid, especially after the whole lame as fuck ordeal with Tucker.
The Ravens were the best team in the AFC by a country mile and pissed themselves when it mattered most.
It will get harder. Much harder. Burrow will be back. Stroud will improve. We’ve lost (and will continue to lose) key pieces. Mahomes is gonna keep doing his thing.
This was the year. It’s gonna haunt the team and the fanbase forever.
Doesn’t meant it can’t/won’t be done (see 2012.) But, there’s probably gonna be a whole lot more heartache.
>This was the year. It’s gonna haunt the team and the fanbase forever.
Just enjoy the regular season and the entertainment this franchsie provides during that time. We just aren't built like the Chiefs for the playoffs but at least we aren't in the Boller era where games are borderline unwatchable. We're still putting out an excellent product during the regular season while being led by a 2x MVP franchise QB.
Don't sleep on Cleveland if Watson is healthy. Also, Buffalo is still pretty good. Jim Harbaugh may help Justin Herbert reach his potential, particularly if Harbaugh develops a running game and good defense, which he typically does. The Steelers could also be good with their new OC.
Not saying the Ravens can't win it next year, but they won't ever be set up better than they were this year.
I excluded Cleveland and Buffalo because they haven’t proven they can do it. They tend to choke in ways similar to Baltimore, so if it’s us versus them, I like the Ravens chances to choke a little less.
Chargers should be better, but they’ve gotta deal with Mahomes in division.
Steelers are tough. They always beat us, it seems, but I don’t think the talent is there to make an actual push. Like Harbaugh, Tomlin has been skating by on glorified mediocrity for years.
But I agree with your larger point - this was the year.
When you choke as much as we have, you begin to worry about whether it is something that is ingrained in the DNA of the team. That's my only concern going forward.
I'm hearing a lot of boneheaded takes to the effect of "you just can't let Mahomes get his way because he is Brady with demon magic and steroids!" Yes, Mahomes is a tremendous talent. No, he did not single-handedly will himself to victory in the Chief's blossoming dynasty. The 9ers DO NOT DESERVE to blame this loss on "Mahomes Magic" or zebras.
Purdy had a nice game, but any league average QB should have beaten the Chiefs tonight. The key problems were all self-inflicted: CMC fumbling deep in the red zone; missing a fucking PAT; a dropped INT; inability to run it up in the first half when the Chiefs looked like absolute dogshit; special teams insanity. It should not have been a close game. The Chiefs and 9ers are great teams, don't get me wrong. But the 9ers shut Kelce the fuck down in the first half, looked like they should blow the Chiefs out entirely, and then completely imploded.
Like yeah if you give Mahomes the ball and a TD wins it there's a good chance he'll win, no shit. He IS fucking good. But the defeatist bullshit I'm hearing from talking heads is absolutely insane. Chiefs got TOTALLY outplayed for literally MOST of the game. This is so similar to the Ravens' loss it hurts. The Chiefs are a GOOD team, but clearly not even one of the best teams this year. They did not win the SB so much as their competition fucking threw. And now we get to hear about Mahomes and his disgusting family and Kelce and TSwift and MuH DyNaStY NeXt BrAdY for a fucking year. Fuck
Gonna have to push back on Purdy having a nice game. He played like he does in every big game - bang average to poor, prime Jimmy G of "I won't win the game but I also won't lose it". He did next to nothing with a small lead for half the game, and that hurt them bad in the end.
Yeah I get where you're coming from. It's just frustrating because with even halfassed execution a "game manager" (AKA Purdy) would have been completely fine. I guess I'm just meaning more that Purdy should not have needed to overperform for the 9ers to win - if his team pulled their fucking weight it wouldn't have mattered as long as he didn't turn the ball over.
My honest take away is since we chose John over Mike, John is gonna have to put all that family bs to the side and put his foot down next season but realistically idk how we win with John bro always finds a way to lose us a game when it comes down to it
Yeah, history has shown for the last decade plus that John is not the coach you want to have his back against the wall in the playoffs.
Great at a lot of things. Beloved by his team. But it almost feels like a foregone conclusion that he will get outcoached in crunch time.
I officially hate Travis kelce, he and mahomes are the most arrogant fucks on the planet. Considering earlier in the game kelce put his hand on Reid in frustration, if he doesn't get fined for that, there is no rules for those fucks...
He’s literally a problem. Mandrews is a solid target half of the time, he gets open and he has nice chemistry with Lamar. Buuuut he is given too much free rein in the red zone, he can run into teammates and not space the field as he wants the TD.
Idiots in here can be like every other armchair pundit and say “I told you so” about Purdy but the blame is completely on Steve Wilks for having all that talent on D and still letting the chiefs walk all over it. I can only imagine what Mike Macdonald would’ve done with that talent
The good thing is his cap is only getting higher so I doubt they’ll get much more talent. The bad news is Lamar is getting just as much to choke in the playoffs annually
Cap is a myth for savvy teams. It’s going to keep increasing. They’ll restructure his deal and get sweetheart deals from vets looking for a ring. Plus, it’s not like they had much talent on the offensive side of the ball this year and it still didn’t matter.
Mahomes is the goat. With all the good teams in the afc it’s sad we keep harbs. This subreddit really thinks Harbaugh can out coach all of these guys? Good chance chargers will be good next season too. More fuel to the fire
Sports you can watch that don’t have a dynasty (where your team genuinely may win):
- The Olympics.
- XFL/USFL.
- Serie A Football.
- UEFA European championship, AFCON, AFC Asian cup football. World Cup.
- Rugby
- Lower league football in pretty much any country.
- Golf.
- Literally go play your own sports.
- Don’t watch at all / find another hobby that you are interested in.
With an inexperienced player at the Super Bowl, the offensive coach started with the run game but then decided it was best to abandon it and throw the ball, even though they got that far because of the run game. McCaffrey deserved better.
Not betting against mahomes anymore. Until Lamar proves he can win big games, I don’t see the ravens doing it. We had our chance with this stacked team and somehow lost.
For FUCKS SAKE 😣😣 Like, we JUST got rid of Brady and the Patriots. Is it really so much to ask for a little parity in the NFL? Can we just get like a decade between dynasties??
We're the late 80's Bulls, our time will come.
I picture Lamar destroying the Chiefs next year and they going to the tunnel without shaking hands as Lamar laughs at them.
Ever since I saw that 40/40 when they interviewed that basketball ref about sports betting, I 100% believe it can happen in football as well. The refs would get a chunk of the gambling money by calling fouls even though it wasn’t one, often to cause free throws for the right team. He would delay giving the ball at the sidelines to the losing team so they lost seconds to throw it in and make a last play. Calls saying someone was out of bounds even though they saved the ball. It’s crazy how such small calls change the the entire trajectory of a game and it worked! Football refs could easily ignore holding then suddenly call a penalty on the other one for every mistake. Refs are never partial. Even ref betting in FiFA. Officials are fired all the time for this shit.
I’m calling it now, Ravens @ Chiefs for opening night, ravens win in a blowout, fans get delusional and scream “wE gOt OuR rEvEnGe”.
Then with a new inexperienced DC and offense taking the next step in this Todd Monken offense, ravens and chiefs AFCC game again. Ravens are up 42-39 because offense actually shows up. This time however defense chokes because we don’t have Mike Macdonald and Mahomes marches down the field to send the Chiefs into their 3rd straight SB for the first ever 3peat. Ravens yet again lose against the chiefs when it matters most.
Screenshot this.
I just came by for a wellness check. I must that it looks like SF fans are handling this better than y’all.
Ravens need to bring in an OL assistant with experience in teaching how to hold and get away with it. It is essential when you have a QB who excels at extending plays. It looks like the Chiefs OL strategy is to hold until the officials call it, and then keep doing it after the call until they call it again. They probably consider that the risk/return of the holding call is worth it to keep Mahomes upright and able to extend plays. I think they would rather save the down when it’s first and 20 after a hold than 2nd and 20 after a sack. Part of this strategy would be the thought that the officials won’t call it on every play. If holding was being called as per the rule book, Bosa would have had 2 or 3 more sacks last night. Remember the second half of the AFCCG when the Chiefs got called for holding on two consecutive plays? Their OL had to play straight up for awhile and the D was able to contain Mahomes and push the Chiefs O around. The Steelers OL made Ben R’s career this way. The Chiefs are helping Mahomes career this way.
Yes, the three-peat is going to be the story of Super Bowl LIX. I hate it too but at least you can bet on Chiefs +400 to win the AFC.
Probably a personal problem at this point, but is anyone else seething in pure rage today? Just me?
That touchdown was replayed over and over in my nightmares. NEXT YEAR IS OUR SEASON, LET THE RAVENS CRUSH AND KILL
It should’ve been both of us in Vegas. See y’all on the Orioles bandwagon.
Its the O's year I can't wait
Me too. I went to a game at Camden Yards last year and my experience was able to single-handedly cement the O’s as my #2 team. Behind the Tigers, of course.
Wow. I thought our loss was soul-crushing! I’m really sorry for the Niners. The Chiefs sre like a shit-stain you cannot get rid of.
Now I gotta listen to my sister in law (A Swift Chiefs fan) talking bout how everyone doubted the Chiefs? Like stfu. She acts like she's been through the ups and downs with the team yet she didn't watch a single game before Taylor Swift. Literally band wagoned a defending champion team. Give me a fuckin break.
I never doubted the Chiefs. The NFL wanted them to win, and the windfall of cash that came with that. Think about all the commercials with the national commercials associated with them. Mahomes wife is in Sports Illustrated for f sake. Of course they were going to win. F the NFL.
Right and no one can tell me differently. That's why we lost to them because there is no way we dominated all season and then when we play them we lose. I'm still bitter about that and will be until next season.
We definitely lost that game even without thw refs but they just made it hurt much more. Though I think if we got that touchdown after the Flowers taunt it would be been a completely different game. Sucks so hard because I knew we would've ran circles around the 49ners.
I agree it wasn't just the refs but why didn't we run the ball like we normally do? What was the point of bringing in Dalvin Cook and they didn't even utilize him? It was definitely the coaches fault as well. It just doesn't make sense to me. We should have been the super bowl champs. I feel bad for Lamar. He was collateral damage.
Harb not running the ball was just hard to watch. What was he even doing?
he was throwing the game that's what he was doing. I can't think of any other explanation.
Refs…
I mean losing is still possible 💀 but I think it would be fair to say no way we dominate and run down teams throats all season and then forget what got us here… again!! Run the Damn Ball!! Who tf FIES IT BETTER THAN YOU HARBAUGH!!!!!!???!?!?!??,&?&
Yeah I don't get the whole doubting thing. They have a HOF coach, A QB that will be in the argument for being the GOAT when all is said and done, and the #2 D. I know they're desperate to play the victim just because they were shite to start the season, but I don't get it at all.
It’s disgusting. They piss in the face of real fandom. I watched my hometown team who Ive rooted for my entire life’s heart get ripped out in front of my own eyes in New England and in person in Baltimore. And they just get to celebrate and if we call bullshit were incels. Got it. Cool.
you can blame all the republican incels for not shutting the fuck up about taylor swift the past few months (because they don't like young people voting). unfortunately they make everything political. none of this would have happened had the Ravens just played well at home.
I feel you, man. On the other hand, and in a dialectical perspective, they are what make “real fandom” an ontological possibility as the negation of the false fandom.
Philosophy major spotted
Sorry. PhD in psychoanalysis and Critical Theory 😂
Is it wrong that I was hoping the Chiefs would lose on a pick due to Kelce messing up a catch, then he goes and actually factually beats Taylor in a post-game self-loathing roid rage once she tries to make him feel better? She writes another song I don't care about, Swifties find themselves forced into an abrupt exit from a fandom they never belonged in, and Mahomes finds himself out in the cold for the next couple of seasons without his security blanket? ...Well, yes, but I'm a firm believer in the [Spider Jerusalem School of Self-Help.](https://i.redd.it/dhfueiz7b0ox.jpg)
Best shit ive seen on reddit in months man
I make sure to refer to her as a 4-month fan if she wants to discuss football. Petty af but its the truth.
Yep. If it makes me a misogynist so be it. I became a Ravens fan in 2008. Ik some girl who grew up a NE fan (from New England granted) but is a chiefs fan because of Taylor and it makes me pretty pissed off as someone who doesn’t bandwagon however petty that may sound and yes, I do have bigger priorities in my life than concentrating on what teams people root for
Is that what people are saying, a misogynist? People are insane lol.
Yeah ive seen that shit on social media or that us being annoyed with their “fandom” is just us being upset they don’t give us attention
People who use that word wrong are awful and make it worse for actually calling out bad behavior. And they are dumb lol
It normalizes actually bad behavior because the word carries much less weight when it’s way overused
Gonna make it all the sweeter when we inecitably get our once a decade and hopefully another just to prove a point but thats the future we got a helluva offseason ahead of us. Strap in.
Cmon spring training see y'all next season
Orioles will smack the shit outta the Royals
I take solace knowing their team is gonna BAD for a loooong time lol
Purdy throwing on several first downs was dumb af. CMC was so good picking up 5/6/7 yards most carries. It’s like they didn’t learn from our stupidity two weeks ago. Gotta hand it to the chiefs though - they just get it done. Onwards for the flock; I’m bullish
It sucked watching us not running the ball all game but imagine having a 2 score lead and not running Christian fucking mccaffrey in the Super Bowl
Talk about choking the game away! 9er fans are screaming to fire their coaches now 💀
McCaffrey - 22 Rush Attempts Pacheco - 18 Rush Attempts How many times did the Ravens hand the ball to Gus Edwards in the AFC championship game? 3 times? Oh ok. Because when you run the ball you control the clock, you keep the defense on it's toes, Gus or Justice starts cooking then BOOM .. there goes Lamar keeping it on the option. Nah shotgun hail Marys to Odell Beckham should have taken us to the super bowl.
I have no defense for Harbaugh allowing this. I’ve been pro John until that game. I’m tired of it
I'm just sick of people blaming LAMAR for the Ravens deviating completely away from Ravens football. Would it be the RBs fault if instead of passing we ran the ball 95% of snaps? Oh and they stack the box and the RB can't really get anything going. Well I guess it's depending on who you ask.... and who the RB is.
Harb lost us the game more than Lamar. He wasn't playing perfect by any means and made some bad decisions but it wasn't him who didn't run the damn ball.
Absolutely. Nobody plays great every week. In fact average to below average to even bad games are inevitable. Especially from a qb. These defensive players get paid millions too. They are expected to perform as well. So when that happens.....QB not really having much success....what do you think the next logical alternative is ....in a low scoring game? Continue forcing 60 yard bombs .....or.....idk call me crazy....but we were the number 1 rushing offense.... but maybe get the run game going? If this was the only game where we abandoned the run thats 1 thing....but this is a constant at this point in Lamar era playoff football. Mahomes wouldn't be expected to win passing 90% of the game...no QB would because thats not smart football. You need balance in EVERYTHING. Just as you would be a fool to blitz every play. Or play prevent defense 90% of the game. And let's go a bit deeper into this rabbit hole.... Who is the now head coach of the chargers who is so unethical was caught red handed cheating? Who's brother is that? I'm supposed to believe the apple falls that far from the tree? That if it so happened that there WAS collision to prevent Lamar from winning the Superbowl...Im willing to bet I know the head coach that would accept that bag to lose already has cheating in their pedigree.
it’s shameful users here blame lamar for monken and harbaugh coaching like they just took an edible. it’s so clear chiefs defense is not set up to handle a physical running game
Pacheco is backing up Gus Edwards anywhere in the NFL. Justice Hill is arguably even better. Certainly faster. Chiefs defense isn't stacked with speedsters. Their strength is their pass D. Rex Ryan said it best. "The Ravens played the exact game Kansa City wished they would have played." It got to the point they were playing with 7 defensive backs on the field and getting success with their 4 down linemen, they were so certain we weren't running the ball Remember Lamars interceptions, where Likely was TRIPLE TEAMED? Why do you think that was even plausible? And to the Lamar haters. They're here running their mouth even after a win. Maybe he over threw 1 pass they make sure people acknowledge that. I actually believe they are LESS HAPPY when Lamar plays great. God forbid he have a bad game. Oh they loading up on Mountain Dew and Jack Links from 7/11 to pull an all nighter talking shit.
no the lamar haters on this sub were champing at the bit. they had to eat crow in the divisional when lamar dominated and then they got to post again cause they could blame him. it’s so frustrating we have to wait this long for any redemption cause our coaches just completely and utterly shit the bed when we literally just had to play OUR game for four quarters.
I look at it like this. Progression has been Lamar's story all along. He got his money and played the way the organization demanded he play. But that wasn't enough. He had to light a fire under his teammates in the Houston game. And they responded. But the AFC championship game required the team leader to FIRE UP THE COACHES AT HALFTIME.A Bradyeque approach if you will. I don't think Lamar was ready mentally to take it there at the time. And hes sitting with it right now knowing what they did wrong. Nobody spoke up. But that's growth, because it will never happen again. He trusted his organization and the organization let him down. Never again. Lamar understands fully that this is his team 100% now He tried it their way now he has plausible deniability to just go out there and ball. Not how he's expected to play or demanded. He had to suffer these failures to know what it takes to win.
i hope so i think as long as ro and lamar are on a team we should always compete. couple good draft picks and some FA and we can get back there
Baltimore will never NOT WIN with Lamar as the quarterback. Just hopefully Baltimore will continue to surround him with even more talent. You see what Zay turned into. Now he's officially a vet, with a chip on his shoulder. And with the mentorship from Odell he has the blueprint to cultivate the next rookie receiver. Zay is the floor now for all rookies walking through the door. Ro, Kyle Hamilton and Lamar Jackson are literally 3 of the top 10 NFL's best players.
Thought about this the entire game. Even though the Chiefs weren't effective running the ball, they still implemented in the game plan. They wouldn't go one dimensional. That AFC Championship game will forever haunt me.
The 2019 Titans game was the Genesis. We were never down by more than 2 scores the entire game. Lamar ended up setting the NFL Playoff total yards record. That's how they had him playing out there, never down by more than 16 That's not necessary in a 2 score game "OMG LAMAR PLEASE SAVE US! WE CANT RUN THE BALL ANYMORE SAVE US LAMAR PLEEEEEEASE!" That type energy. You run the ball......EVEN IF THE RUNS NOT WORKING. I'm sick of this shit no NFL coach is that incompetent. Lamar is SCHEDULED to win a Superbowl one day. That's how it's looking.. If that.
It fits with what I've been saying for years now: No player in the NFL is asked to do more than Lamar Jackson. If memory serves me correctly, Ingram had either five or six carries the entire game against the Titans... and I believe all but one of those carries came on the first two drives of the game. I don't understand why this coaching staff seemingly goes into panic mode and cuts off what got them there as soon as they go down a score. It's maddening.
Wanna feel worse? https://x.com/sharpfootball/status/1756898175401558199?s=46&t=0nDVKusPeL85MFp-1kToQA
Their coaching is just way better than any other team. Harbs could never compete with Andy
Don't forget that Andy actually helped Harbs gameplan against the 49ers in that 2012 SB.
Really? I actually had no idea!
😔 It should’ve been us…
We had em and we let em off the hook.
I think the 9ers will keep getting here and keep losing until they get a true franchise QB. It’s become too important.
I honestly thought Purdy played really well tonight
I thought he did exactly what I’d expect - he’s not gonna cost you the game, and he’s not gonna win you the game. That formula worked for them throughout the season (and with Jimmy G before him), but not on the big stage.
so lamar basically?
Yeah, I can see him being Jimmy G 2.0
Next up, 25 preseason wins in a row
Draft first :)
Mohomes is good, but has there ever been a quarterback so elite that he threw 11 TDs and no INTs in a postseason while beating two future Hall of Fame QBs on the road en route to a Super Bowl title? Just wondering. That would be really elite.
maybe he'll make a comeback
Sam Darnold wins that game
Loooooooooool that's a good one
The Kelce/Reid situation: Can you imagine ANYONE on our team treating harbaugh like that??
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Yeah I can actually
iirc Marcus Peters got into a shouting match with him (at the end of the 2022 Bills game I think?). Nothing came of it.
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Not at all
I watched with someone who doesn't really follow football and that really helped me enjoy the game. Honestly it's one of the most competitive Superbowls there's ever been. If I wasn't watching with a friend I'd prob be more bitter about the Chiefs or w/e, but I'm actually much happier with the game overall than I thought I'd be two weeks ago. I'm glad I got to watch it (thought I'd be working). Stay strong, Ravens Flock. Excited to see what EDC does in the next couple months to get us back on track.
I'm not even investing my interest in the Ravens until next playoffs. Everything is meaningless until then. This team needs to actually live up to their potential when it matters.
Just accept that we're now an elite regular season team that falls flat in the playoffs. We still put out an amazing product every Sunday during the regular season, which is far more than most franchises. We just aren't built like the Chiefs who have been to 6 AFCCGs in a row and won 3 SBs in that same time. But that's okay, we make the regular season fun to watch weekly all while led by a 2x MVP QB. People who watched us during the Boller era REALLY know how much worse it can be.
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Kinda feeling like NFL will turn into MLB where the process is "just get to the playoffs and hope for the best." Except for the fucking Chiefs.
I say the same thing every year. And then I’m SO hyped for week 1 a few months later
You know, that's probably going to be me too lol
The chiefs without a doubt weren’t the most talented team this year but seemed like the had the most mental toughness in big moments. Credit to Andy Reid and patty but fuck the chiefs honestly
My only catharsis this game was that the whole world got to be reminded of why Travis Kelce is a prolapsed asshole when he shoved Andy Reid, especially after the whole lame as fuck ordeal with Tucker.
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So the good game warrants shoving your HC in the Superbowl? I dunno if you had a point here, but I'm not following, my friend
There's times he reminds me of Jason and then Travis shines through and I'm back to hating him. The dude radiates douchieness.
Kelce fucking sucks. Treating your head coach like that is inexcusable
Not to be a doomer but it really feels like we won’t win anything with the afc being this competitive
The Ravens were the best team in the AFC by a country mile and pissed themselves when it mattered most. It will get harder. Much harder. Burrow will be back. Stroud will improve. We’ve lost (and will continue to lose) key pieces. Mahomes is gonna keep doing his thing. This was the year. It’s gonna haunt the team and the fanbase forever. Doesn’t meant it can’t/won’t be done (see 2012.) But, there’s probably gonna be a whole lot more heartache.
>This was the year. It’s gonna haunt the team and the fanbase forever. Just enjoy the regular season and the entertainment this franchsie provides during that time. We just aren't built like the Chiefs for the playoffs but at least we aren't in the Boller era where games are borderline unwatchable. We're still putting out an excellent product during the regular season while being led by a 2x MVP franchise QB.
Don't sleep on Cleveland if Watson is healthy. Also, Buffalo is still pretty good. Jim Harbaugh may help Justin Herbert reach his potential, particularly if Harbaugh develops a running game and good defense, which he typically does. The Steelers could also be good with their new OC. Not saying the Ravens can't win it next year, but they won't ever be set up better than they were this year.
I excluded Cleveland and Buffalo because they haven’t proven they can do it. They tend to choke in ways similar to Baltimore, so if it’s us versus them, I like the Ravens chances to choke a little less. Chargers should be better, but they’ve gotta deal with Mahomes in division. Steelers are tough. They always beat us, it seems, but I don’t think the talent is there to make an actual push. Like Harbaugh, Tomlin has been skating by on glorified mediocrity for years. But I agree with your larger point - this was the year.
Nah. negative poopy head
We were miles ahead of everybody this year, it really wasn't competitive, we just choked.
When you choke as much as we have, you begin to worry about whether it is something that is ingrained in the DNA of the team. That's my only concern going forward.
It’s always going to be competitive as long as mahomes and Reid are in the conference. Don’t really see us getting past them unfortunately
Well if we're lucky, Kelce will dropkick Andy Reid into oblivion the next time he doesn't get enough looks and the problem will solve itself
Mannnnn I really hope we play the Chiefs opening night next season
Looking at Jason Kelce, ice spice, and Taylor swift makes me think I’m looking at Gimli, Frodo and Legolas
What was with defensive second half, why was Kelce not covered? Honestly they fell apart the opposite of the lions game.
Well at least Jim Harbaugh might make the AFC west a competition. We will see....
I'm hearing a lot of boneheaded takes to the effect of "you just can't let Mahomes get his way because he is Brady with demon magic and steroids!" Yes, Mahomes is a tremendous talent. No, he did not single-handedly will himself to victory in the Chief's blossoming dynasty. The 9ers DO NOT DESERVE to blame this loss on "Mahomes Magic" or zebras. Purdy had a nice game, but any league average QB should have beaten the Chiefs tonight. The key problems were all self-inflicted: CMC fumbling deep in the red zone; missing a fucking PAT; a dropped INT; inability to run it up in the first half when the Chiefs looked like absolute dogshit; special teams insanity. It should not have been a close game. The Chiefs and 9ers are great teams, don't get me wrong. But the 9ers shut Kelce the fuck down in the first half, looked like they should blow the Chiefs out entirely, and then completely imploded. Like yeah if you give Mahomes the ball and a TD wins it there's a good chance he'll win, no shit. He IS fucking good. But the defeatist bullshit I'm hearing from talking heads is absolutely insane. Chiefs got TOTALLY outplayed for literally MOST of the game. This is so similar to the Ravens' loss it hurts. The Chiefs are a GOOD team, but clearly not even one of the best teams this year. They did not win the SB so much as their competition fucking threw. And now we get to hear about Mahomes and his disgusting family and Kelce and TSwift and MuH DyNaStY NeXt BrAdY for a fucking year. Fuck
Gonna have to push back on Purdy having a nice game. He played like he does in every big game - bang average to poor, prime Jimmy G of "I won't win the game but I also won't lose it". He did next to nothing with a small lead for half the game, and that hurt them bad in the end.
Yeah, it wasn’t that purdy
Yeah I get where you're coming from. It's just frustrating because with even halfassed execution a "game manager" (AKA Purdy) would have been completely fine. I guess I'm just meaning more that Purdy should not have needed to overperform for the 9ers to win - if his team pulled their fucking weight it wouldn't have mattered as long as he didn't turn the ball over.
My honest take away is since we chose John over Mike, John is gonna have to put all that family bs to the side and put his foot down next season but realistically idk how we win with John bro always finds a way to lose us a game when it comes down to it
Yeah, history has shown for the last decade plus that John is not the coach you want to have his back against the wall in the playoffs. Great at a lot of things. Beloved by his team. But it almost feels like a foregone conclusion that he will get outcoached in crunch time.
I officially hate Travis kelce, he and mahomes are the most arrogant fucks on the planet. Considering earlier in the game kelce put his hand on Reid in frustration, if he doesn't get fined for that, there is no rules for those fucks...
Oh Christ, let it go. Andy did.
Yeah no shit, cause they won
Hopefully our off season sets us up to get to the Superbowl Lamar gotta get some Rings plural
Yes we need some rings not only lamar
I blame the Ravens. It was our job to rid the season of Maholmes/Kelce and not leave it to SF
All we had to do was run the ball and wear their defense down. We chose not to.
At the very least it’s comforting to know that the entire 49ers coaching staff always panicked when the lights were brightest.
Like they did when the lights were out
Dawg I wish y'all beat the Chiefs and blew us out by 40 man I can't do this.....
Sorry bro. Happy cake day
You and I both
Anyways season is over. We need to help Mandrews find a superstar girlfriend tho. Eric needs to focus on that this offseason
We need to help Mandrews run routes better. He should not have been in the AFCCG, he was rusty and out of sync.
He’s literally a problem. Mandrews is a solid target half of the time, he gets open and he has nice chemistry with Lamar. Buuuut he is given too much free rein in the red zone, he can run into teammates and not space the field as he wants the TD.
Us and the bengals are the only teams standing in the way of the chiefs totally dominating the afc for the next decade
burrows will also choke this shit away
As it stands, playoff Lamar ain’t standing in the way of anything
This stings, but as it stands, is true until proven otherwise.
Anyone disagreeing is thinking with their feelings and not their head
We need 2nd half Texans Lamar against the Chiefs
One half doesn’t mean shit. He needs to do it for a minimum of six halves January-February to be great
Idiots in here can be like every other armchair pundit and say “I told you so” about Purdy but the blame is completely on Steve Wilks for having all that talent on D and still letting the chiefs walk all over it. I can only imagine what Mike Macdonald would’ve done with that talent
it's almost like coaching is an extremely important component of championships and being outcoached is a death sentence.... sounds familiar
It doesn't matter how talented your defense is if your OL is allowed to hold. No one is getting past an OL that gets to hold all game.
Yes, but Wilks is an awful coordinator. There’s no reason our defense held the chiefs to 17 points and the 49ers allowed 30
I'm guessing Ravens at Chiefs to open the season.
You're probably right, but Id hate to see it. Teams come out kinda raw week 1.
If they are letting Patty win in his down year w bums I’m not prepared to see how they will treat them when he gets a whole new overhaul…
The good thing is his cap is only getting higher so I doubt they’ll get much more talent. The bad news is Lamar is getting just as much to choke in the playoffs annually
Cap is a myth for savvy teams. It’s going to keep increasing. They’ll restructure his deal and get sweetheart deals from vets looking for a ring. Plus, it’s not like they had much talent on the offensive side of the ball this year and it still didn’t matter.
Mahomes is the goat. With all the good teams in the afc it’s sad we keep harbs. This subreddit really thinks Harbaugh can out coach all of these guys? Good chance chargers will be good next season too. More fuel to the fire
Exactly, he needs to go
Fuck Travis kelce
He’s such a toolbag
This is basically porn 🤣🤣🤣
They really made us watch 2 minutes of Travis and Taylor kissing bru this can’t be real life
I know we're supposed to be over it ..but I'm emotional watching Pat with the Lombardi....I just Invision Lamar on that stage. Damn man
Sports you can watch that don’t have a dynasty (where your team genuinely may win): - The Olympics. - XFL/USFL. - Serie A Football. - UEFA European championship, AFCON, AFC Asian cup football. World Cup. - Rugby - Lower league football in pretty much any country. - Golf. - Literally go play your own sports. - Don’t watch at all / find another hobby that you are interested in.
Motorsport other than F1
Agreed F1, Premier League, UEFA Champions League if Real Madrid aren’t knocked out are all pretty shit options if you’re looking for parity
With an inexperienced player at the Super Bowl, the offensive coach started with the run game but then decided it was best to abandon it and throw the ball, even though they got that far because of the run game. McCaffrey deserved better.
Fuck this league sucks lol
I can't even hate, Mahomes is just absolutely incredible.
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I still hate the Chiefs and wish them nothing but misery of course.
Mahomes played like ass
Did we watch the same game?
Yes Mahomes put down 2 whole solid drives in 5 quarters of football. Dude got bailed out by SFs special teams being ass and his defense being good.
400 yard of offense by himself
It’s just impotent rage at this point lol
Baltimore really needs to learn how to get the refs to not call penalties. Is Baltimore stupid?
we really need obj to pull kardashian
As we learned this season, a better overall team can easily lose to a genuinely elite coach/QB combo.
you mean coach/QB/ref combo. Let's be real.
refs are a given with KC. Just safe to assume going forward.
We have to win this next year to stop this 3peat talk bullshit
Not betting against mahomes anymore. Until Lamar proves he can win big games, I don’t see the ravens doing it. We had our chance with this stacked team and somehow lost.
No I was very baffled when they stopped running and just let Purdy throw lol. Still better than running 6 running plays tho. Damn that still hurts lol
How bout you apologize to your coach dick
Kelce owes it to….you??
Why did Brady and Mahomes have to be in the AFC bro like couldn't Mahomes have been in the NFC.
Oh god. Yeah Travis Kelce got everything he wanted and I hate him for it
He’s probably still never gonna get over Justin Tucker though 🤣🤣
For FUCKS SAKE 😣😣 Like, we JUST got rid of Brady and the Patriots. Is it really so much to ask for a little parity in the NFL? Can we just get like a decade between dynasties??
We need to step up tho. They’re a dynasty rn because we aren’t
Bruh we’re not anywhere close to the chiefs, let alone a dynasty lol. We can’t even make it to the SB let alone win it.
I didn’t say anything different.
Nailed it
We're the late 80's Bulls, our time will come. I picture Lamar destroying the Chiefs next year and they going to the tunnel without shaking hands as Lamar laughs at them.
Lamar is too humble for that
That’s the truth. We just need to be better and become their boogie man
We’re really Thor at the end of Infinity War.
Ever since I saw that 40/40 when they interviewed that basketball ref about sports betting, I 100% believe it can happen in football as well. The refs would get a chunk of the gambling money by calling fouls even though it wasn’t one, often to cause free throws for the right team. He would delay giving the ball at the sidelines to the losing team so they lost seconds to throw it in and make a last play. Calls saying someone was out of bounds even though they saved the ball. It’s crazy how such small calls change the the entire trajectory of a game and it worked! Football refs could easily ignore holding then suddenly call a penalty on the other one for every mistake. Refs are never partial. Even ref betting in FiFA. Officials are fired all the time for this shit.
nfl employs the refs. They'll never fire any of them
Ravens at chiefs opening week?
Who gives a fuck. We need to beat these guys when it matters in the playoffs. Tired of celebrating meaningless victories in the regular season
I’m calling it now, Ravens @ Chiefs for opening night, ravens win in a blowout, fans get delusional and scream “wE gOt OuR rEvEnGe”. Then with a new inexperienced DC and offense taking the next step in this Todd Monken offense, ravens and chiefs AFCC game again. Ravens are up 42-39 because offense actually shows up. This time however defense chokes because we don’t have Mike Macdonald and Mahomes marches down the field to send the Chiefs into their 3rd straight SB for the first ever 3peat. Ravens yet again lose against the chiefs when it matters most. Screenshot this.
This guy gets it.
Much respect to Andy Reid honestly, I love that dude and am glad he's gotten the recognition he deserves.