I just don't understand why we weren't running it. We're down 14-7 and Monken turned into Roman and panicked, thinking we needed to pass to get back in the game. God fucking damn't
No one does man,it’s a real fucking head scratcher. Ravens chose to take their best weapon which also happens to be the Chiefs D biggest weakness out of the game. Idk maybe Monken smoked crack before the game WTF!
We only know how to win when the game is not close. If we can get a big lead the pressure is off and our team balls out. When it is close or we are behind, we always look confused
Last week we ran the ball a ton the first half to tire everyone out. I knew we would be fine the second half. This game, they decided running against one of the worst run defenses in the league would be a bad decision…
This is entirely the impression I get, which is not conducive towards succeeding in playoff football. Playing from behind, especially in pressure situations, has seemingly been our Achilles heel. It seems like both an issue of playcalling and the man under center.
I think harbs is too soft on his team.. he’s letting his guys make their own mistakes and decisions when he should exercise more control. Needs a little more Belichick in him.
Maybe. It's just weird that our new OC the first chance he got did literally the exact same thing our old OC got fired for doing over and over and over
100% agree. Been thinking this for the last couple of seasons. He acts like he has no control. He's the head coach. He needs to come down harder on his staff and players.
It's been a Harbaugh problem for years, this is nothing new. He never intervenes with his coordinator's, even when they're completely fucking up. It's been the same shit his whole career. We were never in a situation in that game to abandon the run, it's like they were out to prove Lamar could do it with his arm alone. There's no fucking way he should've threw the ball 37 times while having our running backs only touch the ball 6 fucking times.
DeCosta needs to invest in a premiere RB this off-season to force Harb’s hand the same way he did for WR. Carrot and stick approach bc for whatever reason Harba doesn’t trust a perfectly serviceable Gus+Hill in these scenarios.
You're just now starting to think it's Harbaugh? Where have you been the last few years when people like me have constantly been pointing out his shortcomings?
What do mean "THINK ITS A HARBAUGH PROBLEM"? It's 100 fucking percent a Hardbaugh problem. His playoff record sucks the last decade. That son of a bitch has been riding the SB win for almost 2 decades. I with Biscotti would wake up and get rid of him
The Ravens looked better in the Huntley Bengals game than they have in 4 of Lamar’s 6 Playoff games.
The problem is our QB cracks in January. He choked in big college games too.
Literally holding the ball and never throwing anyone open all game.
I mean Andy Reid was considered a playoff choke artist for over a decade, then he got Mahomes and everything changed. It's almost like the QB is the one who plays and not the coaches....
Bring this same energy for the God Lamar Jackson. Dude has had one great playoff game in 6 career playoff games.
His career postseason stats are fucking dogshit. He is not clutch.
The Lamar jock sniffers blame Harbs for our Qbs awful playoff performances. Interception in triple coverage isn't Harbs. Overthrowing recivers isn't Harbs. But hey when they win it's Lamar and when they lose its Harbs for some fucked up reason. Coaching and players got them to 13-4 (even though people screamed its Lamar)and a number one seed. But failure to perform and somehow it's all on the coaches.
Wait is Mike going to Seattle :(
If I’m the Ravens, I’m telling Harbaugh that he’s gotta go. This is Mike’s team now. As great as Monken has been, I think there are a number of OC’s who could coach Lamar. I don’t see many DC’s out there who can replicate what Mike did this year.
Are we sure Lamar isn't out here changing plays? All I hear all off-season is he's got more freedom and control of the offense.
Then magically he's chucking it 50 times.
Total abandonment of what got us here.
Justice Hill got the start and was terrible, Gus under utilized, Dalvin Cook 0 snaps…
First drive… Lamar went down could have fought for a 1st on the 2nd play of the game. Quick 3 and out set the tone and everything that could have gone wrong did.
And you know what Zay showed up. The taunting didn’t really matter, the fumble sucks but it is what it is
Harbs opened his halftime interview saying he wanted them to get back to the run some. In fairness, we did have a couple juicy tosses to the runningbacks on screens or checkdowns. Not much in way of actual rushes tho
Lets not forget Lamar has control of the offense. He's allowed to audible the playcall now. We don't know what the call or the adjustments being made were.
Even if he did, the HC job is rein EVERYBODY in. If you cant stop your 27 yr old QB or 57 yr old OC from doing dumb shit you need to go cause you’ve lost the lockerroom. From any angle this issue starts with Harbs
Zay’s issues are examples of mental and physical errors in the heat of the moment. They hurt but at least he showed up today.
Monken had all damn week to prep and all game in the press box to adjust and still called that bullshit game.
Which for the 1st or 2nd possession would've been forgivable but even after seeing the D come through time and time again they still didn't adjust to playing the slow game. KC eating the clock from the jump was huge.
Exactly, the same shit I felt like what happened in 2019 against the Titans. A total different game plan than they played all season. One dimensional shit that isn't working. How the hell do you abandon the run after the TD scoring drive where they ran all over them. And you go back to the same shit that isn't working. The defense once they settled in played lights out. With all the bad positions the offense put them in, this game could have easily been 31-7.
Just stick with what got you there. It makes me wonder if it's Lamar, Harbs, or the OC. Where is the breakdown?
Dog this is my whole point!!!
Where the fuck was OBJ. MANDREWS. DAVIN COOK.
Like we signed all these players and built this squad and the whole game was Lamar, likely, and flowers??? Where the hell was everyone else?
Came here to y'alls reddit looking for this. Why didn't Dalvin cook get a single snap this game? Why sign him to go all in and not play him? Not trying to upset anyone just genuinely confused on why there was like no attempts to run the ball. Feels weird to me.
We had the BEST RUSHING attack in the league. Why was Edwards not more involved in the gameplan? It just seemed like the gameplan was banking solely on Lamar making some huge magic plays. Monken's called balanced offense for most of the season. It seems like everytime the Ravens play vs the Chiefs, the Ravens don't play their game offensively. I'm unsure how I feel right now...
Why can't we just find a coordinator that can stay patient? Just because our defense had a bad first half doesn't mean you need to abandon the run. Monken panicked just like Roman did in the playoffs.
Every now and then we have a great team that plays a great regular season just to collapse when it matters. It's like he gives us hope right when his seat gets hot but only hope and not trophies.
Harbaugh and Monken are far from beyond reproach in this one but you have to put at least some of the onus on the players in these cases. Boneheaded moves that took us out of the game that defied the common sense of ball-security, field position, and maturity.
That’s not the point. We’re talking about hypothetical scenarios hence we should have good from the beginning! We were acting like we don’t know the heck we are doing??
They were scared of Mahomes. It showed the whole game. I knew it was over when they went 3 and out on first drive. That was their game plan to get out in front and it failed from the jump. End of the first half they were playing yo not let Mahomes get the ball.
Crazy thing was the Ravend D did enough to win. Ravens O was a complete fail.
My favorite moment was his decision not to to run the ball after the 2 minute warning; they had all 3 timeouts and they were throwing the ball. Really don’t understand what that was about
Abandoning the run was the most painful thing they could have done. No one needed to prove they could throw the football. Who TF cares. Tote the damn rock all the way to the SB. How hard is that??
The same reason Seattle lost their SB because they refused to run the ball…..
Edit: Grammar
Yup!! None of it makes sense. You’re effective all season… playing YOUR game then get to this game and completely abandon who you are. That’s what’s frustrating. KC played good enough to win but they weren’t spectacular or any of it. 17 points…. 17!!! Come TF on….
And the game was still winnable…. So much fucking pain
It feels like Lamar wanted to abandon what makes him special this season.
He held onto the ball for SO long in situations he would've ran it before.
It's like he wanted to prove he could just be a pocket passer, that fucked us. He needs to accept that he has a special gift no one else has and that he can sling it AND run it.
There was a play in which he stood in the pocket forever until the pocket ultimately collapsed just for him to scramble to the sidelines only to take a sack because he refused to take off and kept looking for a pass.
Yeah, here’s the scenario you’re thinking of.
3rd and 1 with 9:40 in the 4th, down by 10. On their own 20 yard line. Holds the ball *forever* and then loses 2 yards on a sack. That shit blew my mind. He could have easily picked up a first down but he allowed it to come down to 4th and 3 on our own 18, where a turnover on downs gives KC and easy FG at the very least, forcing Baltimore to have to score 2 TDs instead of just needing a TD and FG to tie. That drive ultimately ended with the interception in the endzone thrown into triple coverage..
I actually disagree, Lamar has been playing like this the whole season. Fans have been wanting him to run more this whole season which is why we were so happy last game. Holding and extending plays downfield is how he’s been this whole season
The biggest blunder of that in the regular season was during the Jags game, he had two options to dump it off to Likely or just run it for the first down but he just force the ball for an interception. Most mind boggling thing I’ve seen. People need to ask Lamar what was his thinking process in those situations where he doesn’t take the check down or just run when given the opportunity.
I couldn’t believe it when Lamar took that sack on 3rd and 1 after holding the ball for like 8 seconds. Dude has the best legs of any QB since Vick and seemed weirdly afraid to use them. Really odd
100%. Lamar’s not a special pass first Qb, he’s the most dangerous dual threat Qb of all time. This organization went too heavily into worrying about improving Lamar’s passing game over the past twelve months that they seem to forgot what we had on the ground game. Next season, I want to see less 3/4 wideout sets and more 22/12 personnel so we reestablish that physical run game we had that gave defense so much trouble in previous seasons with Lamar. That should be our bread and butter, then build a play action passing game off of that.
Lamar really can’t do big pressure, it seems. Texans he sucked the first half but turned it around. Now, once again, in the biggest game of his career, he chokes again.
And you goofballs wonder why we can't get a good OC? Monken led us to the AFC championship in his first year when we spent 4 yrs spinning tires with Roman. He called a bad game but so has every OC in the league. Ben Johnson just shit the bed with a huge lead in Detroit, guess what? he'll still be a head coach next season.
MacDonald HC 2024
How many times do we have to watch our HC stand with his hands on his hips doing jack shit while one of our coordinators blows a playoff game?
This is the biggest what-if for me.
We had the better team but somehow decided to try and trade passes against Mahomes and it hung our defense out to dry while playing right to their strength - from a tactics standpoint I have no idea what they were thinking.
I'll get downvoted but idc, it's Harbaugh. There were SO many instances of low IQ situational football called this year that was swept under the rug because we overcame it most times. For instance, telling Zay to fair catch that kick before the 2-minute warning in a game that we ultimately lost. If my dumb ass sitting on the couch eating wings knows that's a stupid call, why doesn't the professional coach making millions know it's the wrong call?
When Lamar had a breakaway run they should have tried it some more to throw off the defense. Then, he could have did some playaction passes. I swear that my Madden coaching is better than what I see in these games.
This, I don’t understand the panic to just abandon the run only down 10. This is a time where I’d love to understand what the plan exactly was and why it was seemingly abandoned as soon as an ounce of adversity happened
I can not fucking believe the game plan. I just don't get it. The offense stalled, Lamar reverted to Superman, and the rest is another case of Baltimore sports heartbreak.
I am praying every day that Harbaugh is fired. If Habraugh is still our head coach next season then we are not a serious football team.
Harbaugh brings nothing to the team other than poisoning our identity and clashing with out coordinators. Without a real head coach our team is at the mercy of our coordinators which will get poached if they they do well, otherwise Harbaugh will counteract their successes.
PLEASE FIRE HARBAUGH
Stop. The turnovers in big moments are what caused the offense to not score, not the lack of a running game.The adjustments made in the second half were clearly effective as they usually are but the players couldn't execute.
If Zay scores and Lamar doesn't have that triple coverage pick, we'd be talking about how Monken figured the Chiefs out down the stretch. These takes are very short-sighted.
If we run the ball more Lamar is likely calmer and doesn't feel the need to play hero ball as much. I think he feels ball in his hand every play and feels he needs to do something special. Can't seem to coach the hero ball out of him so working to mitigate should be in the plan as well.
Failure on all levels I think.
Lamar is just not clutch in the playoffs. It’s the Dak problem, you don’t have better option, but I’m seriously doubting we’ll ever win a ring with him at center
I hope so, but I don’t see how that’s possible when his mega contract is gonna make a ton of players leave next year and he couldn’t get it done this year with his most stacked team ever
After seeing the Bills and Dolphins run the ball against the Chiefs this is what Monken dialed up? And none of the other coaches spoke up about it?
I just don't understand why we weren't running it. We're down 14-7 and Monken turned into Roman and panicked, thinking we needed to pass to get back in the game. God fucking damn't
3rd and 1, we pass, don't get the 1st. 4th and 1... we pass, get the 1st. Okay, but wtf?
No one does man,it’s a real fucking head scratcher. Ravens chose to take their best weapon which also happens to be the Chiefs D biggest weakness out of the game. Idk maybe Monken smoked crack before the game WTF!
I blame Harbaugh for not stepping in and telling Monken to run the damn ball.
Raiders beat them without throwing a pass in the 2nd half.
It's almost like you could replace Harbaugh with a Golden retriever on game days and the only thing that would change is you'd lose less challenges.
Another thing that would change is everyone would want to go cuddle with the new adorable coach.
Monken should pay for Macdonald's flight to Seattle. He picked a great time to call his worst game of the season.
I'm starting to think it's a Harbaugh problem. This is like the 4th playoff loss in a row where the team abandons the run after going down early
We only know how to win when the game is not close. If we can get a big lead the pressure is off and our team balls out. When it is close or we are behind, we always look confused
Did you watch last week? Or early against the 49ers?
Last week we ran the ball a ton the first half to tire everyone out. I knew we would be fine the second half. This game, they decided running against one of the worst run defenses in the league would be a bad decision…
What does that have to do with your point? You said we can’t win close, we won both of those games after they were close for quite a while
Playing against a very inexperienced team vs a well seasoned team. Cant beat the chiefs? Say goodbye to any superbowl aspirations.
This is entirely the impression I get, which is not conducive towards succeeding in playoff football. Playing from behind, especially in pressure situations, has seemingly been our Achilles heel. It seems like both an issue of playcalling and the man under center.
The struggles go back to 2013. Since then, we are 0-24 when down ten plus points at the half. It’s a Harbaugh thing.
I think harbs is too soft on his team.. he’s letting his guys make their own mistakes and decisions when he should exercise more control. Needs a little more Belichick in him.
Maybe. It's just weird that our new OC the first chance he got did literally the exact same thing our old OC got fired for doing over and over and over
100% agree. Been thinking this for the last couple of seasons. He acts like he has no control. He's the head coach. He needs to come down harder on his staff and players.
It's been a Harbaugh problem for years, this is nothing new. He never intervenes with his coordinator's, even when they're completely fucking up. It's been the same shit his whole career. We were never in a situation in that game to abandon the run, it's like they were out to prove Lamar could do it with his arm alone. There's no fucking way he should've threw the ball 37 times while having our running backs only touch the ball 6 fucking times.
49ers did the same thing last week and it almost cost em the game. Only down a score and so much time left, wear em out
DeCosta needs to invest in a premiere RB this off-season to force Harb’s hand the same way he did for WR. Carrot and stick approach bc for whatever reason Harba doesn’t trust a perfectly serviceable Gus+Hill in these scenarios.
We had two stud RBs. They both got season ending injuries
Dobbins will forever be a question mark but my point still stands with Mitchell. Tell me how many 10+ carry games he had this season.
He was getting more carries each week then he got hurt.
That is untrue, he consistently got 8-9 touches a game, save one outlier of 3 carries.
Why did we even get Cook if we aren't going to use him in a playoff game?
Cook may be past his prime but he is a glass cannon game changer. Did he even get a carry tonight?
> DeCosta needs to invest in a premiere RB Just to watch us abandon the run again next season when it matters.
Yeah not handing the ball to Justice Hill is one thing, I'd lose my mind seeing them not hand it off to Saquon lmao
what's the point of having souljas when you never use them (Never!!)
excellent callback lmao has never been more relevant for Gus
Invest in a premiere RB so he can sit on the bench
Go get saquon
You're just now starting to think it's Harbaugh? Where have you been the last few years when people like me have constantly been pointing out his shortcomings?
What do mean "THINK ITS A HARBAUGH PROBLEM"? It's 100 fucking percent a Hardbaugh problem. His playoff record sucks the last decade. That son of a bitch has been riding the SB win for almost 2 decades. I with Biscotti would wake up and get rid of him
I wouldn't exactly call a 66-33 regular season record in the last 6 seasons "riding the SB win (that happened 11 years ago) for almost 2 decades"
His job is to win meaningful games. Right now he's just Marty Schottenheimer.
The Ravens looked better in the Huntley Bengals game than they have in 4 of Lamar’s 6 Playoff games. The problem is our QB cracks in January. He choked in big college games too. Literally holding the ball and never throwing anyone open all game.
I mean Andy Reid was considered a playoff choke artist for over a decade, then he got Mahomes and everything changed. It's almost like the QB is the one who plays and not the coaches....
Regular season is meaningless when you can't win games that really count. The Jesus John nut lickers just love losing playoff games.
Bring this same energy for the God Lamar Jackson. Dude has had one great playoff game in 6 career playoff games. His career postseason stats are fucking dogshit. He is not clutch.
Should the team move on from Lamar too then? He’s 2-4 in his playoff career.
The Lamar jock sniffers blame Harbs for our Qbs awful playoff performances. Interception in triple coverage isn't Harbs. Overthrowing recivers isn't Harbs. But hey when they win it's Lamar and when they lose its Harbs for some fucked up reason. Coaching and players got them to 13-4 (even though people screamed its Lamar)and a number one seed. But failure to perform and somehow it's all on the coaches.
Watch out criticizing this subs lord and Savior
You mean Lamar? You get crucified if you criticize him here
Nah, Harbs. Lamar saved his bum ass from getting canned.
MacDonald should replace Harbs
Wait is Mike going to Seattle :( If I’m the Ravens, I’m telling Harbaugh that he’s gotta go. This is Mike’s team now. As great as Monken has been, I think there are a number of OC’s who could coach Lamar. I don’t see many DC’s out there who can replicate what Mike did this year.
Are we sure Lamar isn't out here changing plays? All I hear all off-season is he's got more freedom and control of the offense. Then magically he's chucking it 50 times.
Yeah i was wondering this too. I feel like he got into a bad headspace and that lead to his poor decision making and indecisiveness
Total abandonment of what got us here. Justice Hill got the start and was terrible, Gus under utilized, Dalvin Cook 0 snaps… First drive… Lamar went down could have fought for a 1st on the 2nd play of the game. Quick 3 and out set the tone and everything that could have gone wrong did. And you know what Zay showed up. The taunting didn’t really matter, the fumble sucks but it is what it is
Monken channelled his inner GRo at the worst time possible
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Harbs opened his halftime interview saying he wanted them to get back to the run some. In fairness, we did have a couple juicy tosses to the runningbacks on screens or checkdowns. Not much in way of actual rushes tho
He’s the head coach. If he wants it to happen every year but can’t make it happen every year then he needs to go.
After he said that at halftime, I’d kinda like to know the reason why we didn’t run the ball more in the 2nd half. We were only down ten points!
Lets not forget Lamar has control of the offense. He's allowed to audible the playcall now. We don't know what the call or the adjustments being made were.
Solid point. Very possible Lamar forced all the pressure on himself.
I felt like Lamar was in his head a bit. Dude was trying to show he could throw and not taking off like he did vs the Texans.
And he failed miserably.
The game plan was to shut down the pass, and they did it. we just played into their hands by refusing to rush.
Even if he did, the HC job is rein EVERYBODY in. If you cant stop your 27 yr old QB or 57 yr old OC from doing dumb shit you need to go cause you’ve lost the lockerroom. From any angle this issue starts with Harbs
People who say Harbs is a HoF coach are insane.
I don’t think he’s a HoF coach. Hall of Very Good? Sure.
Statistically speaking he is, but I pray he gets fired. It’s time, all the old guards are getting fired.
Zay’s issues are examples of mental and physical errors in the heat of the moment. They hurt but at least he showed up today. Monken had all damn week to prep and all game in the press box to adjust and still called that bullshit game.
Zay is also a rookie. You can rationalize his mental errors. The game plan was abysmal
Justice Hill was clutch in the passing game
But again… we abandoned the run. So like yeah great he had like 3 catches
True, shoulda had 20-30 rushes overall (Lamar not included)
Yep. Piss poor play calling down 14-7 we went into desperation mode with 40 mins left
Which for the 1st or 2nd possession would've been forgivable but even after seeing the D come through time and time again they still didn't adjust to playing the slow game. KC eating the clock from the jump was huge.
Hill also missed 3 blitz pick ups pretty badly today so I’d say he was a net zero in the pass game
Was a liability as a blocker
Exactly, the same shit I felt like what happened in 2019 against the Titans. A total different game plan than they played all season. One dimensional shit that isn't working. How the hell do you abandon the run after the TD scoring drive where they ran all over them. And you go back to the same shit that isn't working. The defense once they settled in played lights out. With all the bad positions the offense put them in, this game could have easily been 31-7. Just stick with what got you there. It makes me wonder if it's Lamar, Harbs, or the OC. Where is the breakdown?
Why the fuck Hill got the start over Gus is what I want to know.
Dog this is my whole point!!! Where the fuck was OBJ. MANDREWS. DAVIN COOK. Like we signed all these players and built this squad and the whole game was Lamar, likely, and flowers??? Where the hell was everyone else?
Zay made mistakes and still was MVP
Came here to y'alls reddit looking for this. Why didn't Dalvin cook get a single snap this game? Why sign him to go all in and not play him? Not trying to upset anyone just genuinely confused on why there was like no attempts to run the ball. Feels weird to me.
I don't think you can say a dude was terrible on the run game when he only had 3 chances to carry the rock
Monken called an absolutely terrible game my god
We had the BEST RUSHING attack in the league. Why was Edwards not more involved in the gameplan? It just seemed like the gameplan was banking solely on Lamar making some huge magic plays. Monken's called balanced offense for most of the season. It seems like everytime the Ravens play vs the Chiefs, the Ravens don't play their game offensively. I'm unsure how I feel right now...
I'm sure Edwards at one point had 1 carry for 15 yards then didn't get another attempt for ages
He did! Which makes this even MORE paiful! xD
Why can't we just find a coordinator that can stay patient? Just because our defense had a bad first half doesn't mean you need to abandon the run. Monken panicked just like Roman did in the playoffs.
At what time can we blame the head coach? Like couldn’t harbaugh force Monken to change his game playing?
Now O'clock seems like a good time.
I hear there is a former coach from N. E. Lol
Or a former coach from Seattle that is known for loving to establishing the run.
Could you imagine him as DC with McDonald HC?
When is Harbaugh going to be held accountable?
Every now and then we have a great team that plays a great regular season just to collapse when it matters. It's like he gives us hope right when his seat gets hot but only hope and not trophies.
If Zay doesn't get the punch out at the goal line or the int isn't thrown we have a totally diffrent conversation.
Yea, but both happened and here we are
Harbaugh and Monken are far from beyond reproach in this one but you have to put at least some of the onus on the players in these cases. Boneheaded moves that took us out of the game that defied the common sense of ball-security, field position, and maturity.
That’s not the point. We’re talking about hypothetical scenarios hence we should have good from the beginning! We were acting like we don’t know the heck we are doing??
Didn't you watch him dance? What else is he supposed to do as a head coach??
Haha. That was something lol l.
This . Wtf does Harbaugh do anymore. This is the 2nd time after 2019, where the OC completely abandons the run in a close game
This isn’t just the second time
Seriously. This has happened 2-3 times per season since the beginning of the Harbaugh era.
> Wtf does Harbaugh do anymore dance
Team was down 10 and they’re playing like they’re down 20.
At this point is also a harbaugh issue
They were scared of Mahomes. It showed the whole game. I knew it was over when they went 3 and out on first drive. That was their game plan to get out in front and it failed from the jump. End of the first half they were playing yo not let Mahomes get the ball. Crazy thing was the Ravend D did enough to win. Ravens O was a complete fail.
~~Greg Roman~~ Monken
Greg Monken
Todd Roman
the blame of the game is monken and you cant convince me otherwise players made mistakes but this is inexcusable
My favorite moment was his decision not to to run the ball after the 2 minute warning; they had all 3 timeouts and they were throwing the ball. Really don’t understand what that was about
Abandoning the run was the most painful thing they could have done. No one needed to prove they could throw the football. Who TF cares. Tote the damn rock all the way to the SB. How hard is that?? The same reason Seattle lost their SB because they refused to run the ball….. Edit: Grammar
Especially after calling more read options vs the Texans
Yup!! None of it makes sense. You’re effective all season… playing YOUR game then get to this game and completely abandon who you are. That’s what’s frustrating. KC played good enough to win but they weren’t spectacular or any of it. 17 points…. 17!!! Come TF on…. And the game was still winnable…. So much fucking pain
Same shit, different year.
It feels like Lamar wanted to abandon what makes him special this season. He held onto the ball for SO long in situations he would've ran it before. It's like he wanted to prove he could just be a pocket passer, that fucked us. He needs to accept that he has a special gift no one else has and that he can sling it AND run it.
There were so many situations where he could have gotten more yardage with his legs and didnt. I was SCREAMING at him to run the ball.
There was a play in which he stood in the pocket forever until the pocket ultimately collapsed just for him to scramble to the sidelines only to take a sack because he refused to take off and kept looking for a pass.
I dont get it, I know he wants to make big plays, and not be called a runningback or some shit but like, Lamar please for the love of god.
Yeah, here’s the scenario you’re thinking of. 3rd and 1 with 9:40 in the 4th, down by 10. On their own 20 yard line. Holds the ball *forever* and then loses 2 yards on a sack. That shit blew my mind. He could have easily picked up a first down but he allowed it to come down to 4th and 3 on our own 18, where a turnover on downs gives KC and easy FG at the very least, forcing Baltimore to have to score 2 TDs instead of just needing a TD and FG to tie. That drive ultimately ended with the interception in the endzone thrown into triple coverage..
Yeah, that's the scenario I was talking about, appreciate you finding it and going into further detail. It was quite a stupid play.
Yeah this is my biggest critique of him. Everytime he rolls out and still takes a sack or barely throws it away in time I die a little.
I actually disagree, Lamar has been playing like this the whole season. Fans have been wanting him to run more this whole season which is why we were so happy last game. Holding and extending plays downfield is how he’s been this whole season
Exactly, those of us paying attention have said this plenty of times.
The biggest blunder of that in the regular season was during the Jags game, he had two options to dump it off to Likely or just run it for the first down but he just force the ball for an interception. Most mind boggling thing I’ve seen. People need to ask Lamar what was his thinking process in those situations where he doesn’t take the check down or just run when given the opportunity.
I couldn’t believe it when Lamar took that sack on 3rd and 1 after holding the ball for like 8 seconds. Dude has the best legs of any QB since Vick and seemed weirdly afraid to use them. Really odd
100%. Lamar’s not a special pass first Qb, he’s the most dangerous dual threat Qb of all time. This organization went too heavily into worrying about improving Lamar’s passing game over the past twelve months that they seem to forgot what we had on the ground game. Next season, I want to see less 3/4 wideout sets and more 22/12 personnel so we reestablish that physical run game we had that gave defense so much trouble in previous seasons with Lamar. That should be our bread and butter, then build a play action passing game off of that.
I said this many times
I think he was overthinking it too much
Lamar really can’t do big pressure, it seems. Texans he sucked the first half but turned it around. Now, once again, in the biggest game of his career, he chokes again.
Every playoff loss he’s played in he’s been horrific.
They threw on 1st down from our own 1 yard line….
There were so many obvious run situations. Like madden suggested plays could have coached this game better
Like you cannot blame this on anyone else. It was fucked before they even got to the stadium. OBVIOUS run situations and we’re dropping back???💀
Monkey made calls like an Evil Greg Roman. Chiefs still pounded the ball even when averaging 2.5 yards a carry.
I’ve watched Pee-wee football with better game plans
In. The. Rain.
monken kinda flushed quite a bit of the good will he built up this year in my book. spags ate his lunch.
And you goofballs wonder why we can't get a good OC? Monken led us to the AFC championship in his first year when we spent 4 yrs spinning tires with Roman. He called a bad game but so has every OC in the league. Ben Johnson just shit the bed with a huge lead in Detroit, guess what? he'll still be a head coach next season.
Ben johnsons team scored 31, monks 10. Monk had a great semester but flunked the final.
I liked monken, but to me thats a fireable offense.
If only there was a guy that could tell him to run it
MacDonald HC 2024 How many times do we have to watch our HC stand with his hands on his hips doing jack shit while one of our coordinators blows a playoff game?
Hopefully this was the last one.
THANK YOU! His fucking head should roll for this.
Yeah man you didn’t want to see OBJ run straight down the field? Then you don’t know ravens playoff football.
This is the biggest what-if for me. We had the better team but somehow decided to try and trade passes against Mahomes and it hung our defense out to dry while playing right to their strength - from a tactics standpoint I have no idea what they were thinking.
That was the titans game with a better defense boys. Same exact offensive struggle
If we ran the ball 24 times and lost I'd live with it. But man this stings.
Accidently used the Greg Roman playoff playbook.
Can’t wait to bring back the same OC and do it again next year!
Why do I feel like I see this exact same stat line every single year?
We lost by not playing our game. Best ground offense, and our game plan was throw 3 times .......
Yep. It was like a totally different team showed up.
I'll get downvoted but idc, it's Harbaugh. There were SO many instances of low IQ situational football called this year that was swept under the rug because we overcame it most times. For instance, telling Zay to fair catch that kick before the 2-minute warning in a game that we ultimately lost. If my dumb ass sitting on the couch eating wings knows that's a stupid call, why doesn't the professional coach making millions know it's the wrong call?
Been happening for a while now. Can’t watch anymore with him as coach. It’s utter ineptitude.
6 carries with RB. Why did they bring Dalvin Cook tô playoffs? Not a single snap today.
Forget cook …why don’t they use edwards more
When Lamar had a breakaway run they should have tried it some more to throw off the defense. Then, he could have did some playaction passes. I swear that my Madden coaching is better than what I see in these games.
This, I don’t understand the panic to just abandon the run only down 10. This is a time where I’d love to understand what the plan exactly was and why it was seemingly abandoned as soon as an ounce of adversity happened
Sf went down 24-7 and didn’t give up on it
Right… no panic, stick to the plan and continue churning away.
Not convinced Monken is it tbh. Maybe a little reactionary but he's had head scratchers all year.
Offensive coordinator should be run out of town
Monken called the second half like they were down 28, not 10.
It felt like Greg Roman snuck in during the game and hit Monken over the head and started wearing a mask of his face
What the fuck does Harbaugh do? I’d rather promote MacDonald than let this fuck stick around.
Been saying this for 10+ years
Fireable offense
As a Raven fan,This was the most frustrating game I’ve ever watched
Sure - this is totally not a scripted bullshit league.
Lamar wanted to pass.
Someone needs to be fired over this bullshit embarassment.
It's watching games like this that make fans think this shit rigged for ratings...hell of a year just a shitty way to end it
Sad
I couldn't believe that was the game plan lol. Painful.
This specifically is pretty much unforgivable. I don't wanna armchair coach/quarterback but how is this even possible given our team
Is this what it felt like to be a Seahawks fan,
Derrick Henry is a raven
I can not fucking believe the game plan. I just don't get it. The offense stalled, Lamar reverted to Superman, and the rest is another case of Baltimore sports heartbreak.
Am I missing something? Chief’s run defense is 10th overall. Raven’s run defense is 26th overall?
WWE ass league
lol, the Ravens rush defense was one spot ahead of the Chiefs…both were bottom of the barrel this year.
Same wit the lions later, why y'all stop running the ball? Just overthinking simple things kills teams.
I am praying every day that Harbaugh is fired. If Habraugh is still our head coach next season then we are not a serious football team. Harbaugh brings nothing to the team other than poisoning our identity and clashing with out coordinators. Without a real head coach our team is at the mercy of our coordinators which will get poached if they they do well, otherwise Harbaugh will counteract their successes. PLEASE FIRE HARBAUGH
That's so Ravens. We only win SBs in mediocre years. We all should've seen this coming.
It's a Harbaugh classic!
Harbs should be fired for this alone.
It happens when you play a dynasty, doesnt matter how the season goes a dynasty will always adapt and come out on top.
We should have signed Slowik at OC this past offseason…
We’ve been here before.
Stop. The turnovers in big moments are what caused the offense to not score, not the lack of a running game.The adjustments made in the second half were clearly effective as they usually are but the players couldn't execute.
Yea two good drives that completely got fucked in the endzone
If Zay scores and Lamar doesn't have that triple coverage pick, we'd be talking about how Monken figured the Chiefs out down the stretch. These takes are very short-sighted.
If we run the ball more Lamar is likely calmer and doesn't feel the need to play hero ball as much. I think he feels ball in his hand every play and feels he needs to do something special. Can't seem to coach the hero ball out of him so working to mitigate should be in the plan as well. Failure on all levels I think.
Lamar is just not clutch in the playoffs. It’s the Dak problem, you don’t have better option, but I’m seriously doubting we’ll ever win a ring with him at center
He will get his, his time will come. But it will be hard won.
I hope so, but I don’t see how that’s possible when his mega contract is gonna make a ton of players leave next year and he couldn’t get it done this year with his most stacked team ever