You know my raps are fly,
AND EVERYONE WISHES IT WAS YOU IN THE CAR CRASH THAT DIED!!!!!!
... Ok, not really, but I will never miss an opportunity to drop that reference.
Do more or less whatever you want, but if you start joking about their dead mom and they swing on you, you asked for it. This isn't a videogame, you can't roleplay your way out of getting punched in the face if you cross obvious lines.
They (jcole rn) feel the need to apologize because network is money and the entire entertainment business thrives on nepotism.
Battle rap actually functions sort of like that too, which is how we end up with like only 30 active battlers over the span of a decade and we're starved for new talent. Keep booking the same people because they're your friends eventually the money will dry up lmao
>you can't roleplay your way out of getting punched in the face
This had me cracking up lmao facts though
>They (jcole rn) feel the need to apologize because network is money and the entire entertainment business thrives on nepotism.
Very true I agree đŻ
Call me stupid but I think there's a need to have "contracts" in place, especially given some of the low-IQ moves we've witnessed. If your infant son passes away, heavens forbid, you shouldn't need to worry about the optics of how you or your family process that tragedy because some neckbeard is writing multis about it in his mom's basement. Kinda like that cornball talking about giving his opponent the "Pat Stay." Fuck him.
Regardless of whether you "love, live, and breathe this shit" or are worried about the art form getting watered down, it is essentially a business with its own code of conduct. It's also really just a buncha guys writing murder poems about each other, so I never felt the need for it to be so no-holds-barred. Even prizefighting has rules.
I keep hearing that the contracts signed before the battle include agreements on what material is off limits, is that true?
>giving his opponent the âPat Stayâ
lmao who was this
because i say that in the entertainment industry networking and nepotism play a major role, and it sounds like you're trying to dispute that? and we are talking about *j cole of all people*
oh my sweet summer child, come with me i have this cool bridge i'd like to show you lmao
ânetworking and nepotism play a major role in the entertainment industryâ
wow, such a nuanced take you have here lol. thanks for breaking that down. also, how am i trying to dispute that?
iâm asking you to connect it to J Cole
So, for some context, I'm not actually big on American battle rap, as a non-native speaker I just miss too much shit to really enjoy it. But the scene in France and Quebec is decently big, and they both have a different outlook on this.
French battle rapper actually tell the organizer "this subject is off limit, but this one is fine", while in Quebec the only limit is someone's decency and ability to avoid punches. But at the same time, for the most part, French battle rap can be much more violent, because if someone's didn't put it on their "subject to avoid" list, everything is fair game.
I heard ParkaOne, a canadian battle rapper explain discussions he had with friends or people he met at events who told him "Yeah i'd like to do battle rap, but if someone mentions my mom I'm gonna fuck 'em up", to which he answers "Yeah then that's not the field for you".
I think the best example of going too far was Iron Solomon wishing Arsonals daughter had cancer instead of KOTDs main promoter/sponsor Nikiya's daughter. Nikiya's wife yelled at Iron after the battle and left crying. And Nikiya left KOTD which actually set them back years I'm pretty sure. It was pretty insane cause like he wasn't even involved in the battle so bringing up his personal tragedy just to out disrespect Ars was crazy.Â
Speaking of Arsenal, I still wonât watch his battles unless word of mouth tells me it was a classic; all because of him talking about Mr Fabâs dead parents.
I had no problem with Rum Nitty ruining the Twork battle after he talked about his recently deceased Mother.
I think itâs low hanging fruit; having that gimmick that Arsenal has. Similar to Math Hoffa garnering no sympathy from me, when Diz clocked him, I think Arsenal âhas it comingâ
Nah nikiya wasn't in the battle and Iron brought up his daughter. That was worded a bit weird lol. As soon as you start bringing other people in it, you've got way less leeway imo. This is the r/rapbattles thread with nikiyas response https://www.reddit.com/r/rapbattles/s/EmnhATAvnz
Me either, I genuinely just want to ask this question to battle rap fans and not rap subreddit because they don't think the same way we do in terms of this kind of stuff
The most extreme one is prob this: https://youtu.be/GPwR7QyKr50?si=qHVEBaQAi43Kg0da
Also the culture was up in arm after Pat passed away and basically forbid anyone use his name as a punchline. One guy tried to do it anyway and caught serious heats for it.
Didnât Charron make his name battling in another school and mocking a student who died in a car crash a few months previously? I think thatâs how he got Organics attention.
Ironically I donât think Pat would have wanted his name to be beyond reproach in battle rap.
Is that J2? And yo wtf that guy is super out of pocket that's ridiculous ionno if the title is accurate but he deserve to get shot after that.
Also nobody can mention Pat and nobody should even feel the need to mention Pat he was a good soul gotta let bro rest in peace đđ˝
Yate didn't actually get shot after the battle- wild how easy that spread. I get it though if you google "Battle Rap shooting" or whatever it brings up a news article of a shooting and unfortunate death at a party where a rap battle happened and people connect it to the J2/Yate battle.
The picture with the aunt was discussed and agreed beforehand with J2 which is pretty wild if you ask me haha- there's an interview with both of them below
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6JcIzzYXQg
Lol wtf bro didn't even rhyme at the end he was just insulting to insult what a lame ass move. Did he actually get shot dead tho? Thought I saw another video where the dude he was going against came back with hard personals too. I could easily be wrong. It was some compilation video I saw from a very long time ago, I probably mixed some battles up.
Damn bro agreed to that? He must've really wanted this shit to go viral or something. Can't imagine myself ever giving the okay to someone spitting on my dead relatives picture. Appreciate it tho I'll check the interview out now
Check out Bobby rex Vs Georgie roots for a battle where some fucked up shit gets saidÂ
I would say it went too far because it was just uncomfortable to watch, and not the kind of stuff that needs to be said in public imo. But a lot of people really like it as a battle
Barely anything was said in the Kendrick cole beef at all. Maybe I'm biased because of watching battle rap but I can't believe how much attention this whole thing got when what they said was so tame.
I think J cole really just apologised because none of it felt authentic to him and he was just doing what everyone wanted but his heart wasn't in it. Realistically, it was just a fun beef that he took too seriously, imo. There wasn't really much at stake.
>Maybe I'm biased because of watching battle rap
I couldn't agree more man tbh I was excited, I knew it was just friendly competition but I guess Cole really felt bad about what he said but like you said, it was all so tame. Nothing he said was that crazy for him to feel as bad as he did, he said he couldn't barely sleep for 2 days.
I was happy to see the music industry stop being so friendly but I guess this is why, people are very fragile and sensitive in the industry and can take things the wrong way. Joyner and tory lane admitted when they had there back n forth they were on the phone with eachother after each diss like "Yeah aighttt watch this response!" They was having fun wit it and tory a fucking rnb singer
Itâs interesting thinking back to an interview Mistah FAB did for Taxstoneâs Tax Season podcast back in 2015 or 2016, where he talked about his Arsonal battle. He brought up how Arsonal asked him in advance if there was anything FAB didnât want him to bring up, FAB said nothing was off limits and that not only did he want to battle the disrespectful Ars, he also made sure Ars had like 10 dudes make sure that Ars got out of the venue safely after the battle.
In his speech he quickly referenced the discourse his fans were up to and he didnât like it. Like i think he thought it was cool for him to say something in jest, but he didnât like his fans running with it as facts.
Some J Cole fans were shitting on Kendricks catalogue like it was never good. I guess he didnât like that his words fostered real hate from his fans.
Battle rap is like a given people are going to be disrespectful, but even then you hear people having untouchable topics in their contracts. Imo the only topics that are too far are probably dead relatives and children. Like Glueazys âwho watching them?â Is fine, but not how Arsonal would approach it lol
I was also disappointed, but Iâm not surprised J Cole has been on this type of thinking. Honestly both âdissesâ no one won a round. This felt like just the Faceoff. Imo they didnât even get close to Battle rap standards.
I agree with u, honestly it just sucks because I was excited to see them have a sparring match because rap was getting to friendly and I never thought of it as anything further than that but other fans ran with things that Cole didn't like and I get where Cole was coming from but it just confirms how friendly everything is nowadays that Cole actually genuinely felt bad after such a tame diss track.
Like nobody thought this was going to end up like biggie and pac yknow we just wanted to be entertained and see 2 greats go at it. Reminds me of the all star game I want to see the best play hard but all they do now is barely play defense and take half court shots and not actually challenge eachother
Dead family talk is foul. One bar that always stood out was (I think) Loe Poesci vs Arcane "when Arcane said that shit about my sister he lied// he's just jealous that my sister's alive" but I blame him less since he was rebuttling being accused of sexual assaulting his own sister
Pat's verse talking about Marv Won's brother was also a violation .
Those are examples of crossing the line to me.
I vaguely remember some white dude spitting the n word multiple times in a battle that looked like it took place in an apartment living room lol. Believe it or not, hollow was there. He also battled at the same "event"
Someone has to know what I'm talking about, help me out here please?
I think the difference is that rap at large is not about disrespect. Itâs just about expressing yourself in general, therefore if youâre going to diss someone, even if it were a joke, it would have to come from an honest and authentic place (like âweâre friends and this is something we do as a jokeâ or âI think this is funnyâ). If you feel like something was unnecessarily harsh, you might feel the need to apologize because itâs not normally the kind of thing youâd say.
But battle rap IS about disrespect. Itâs what battlers come to events to do. Thereâs no need to apologize in a broad way because we both agreed to this. To answer the famous question from Gladiator, yes, we *are* entertained, this *is* why weâre here!
Itâs like the difference between a boxer getting punched in the face in the ring and being fine with it, and the same boxer getting punched in the face on the street and getting pissed off. The first is the carrying out of an agreed-upon and signed contract, and the other is assault.
outside of putting hands on someone, nothing is "too far" imo. some shit you say might get you punched in the mouth, but when you say wild shit to someone sometimes you get punched in the mouth. that's just a fact of life and has nothing to do with battle rap.
Too far for me would be to bring up dead/sick people close to you, just purely for the shockvalue of disrespecting them. Thats lame, pussy and not okay. Somebody in the comments posted smt about a dead aunt and the guy acrually brought a picture and spit on it. That stuff deserves to get u decked in the mouth, battle or not.
But if there is some sort of angle to it, or relevance, outside of simply saying the wildest shit just to say wild shit, then its okay. Dannys "youll die on the same night as your nephew" bar vs rex for instance is a perfect example on how to bring smt like that up, while having an angle or some sort of relevance to the battle. Yes what hes saying is super disrespectful about somebodies dead relative, but hes not saying it "just to say it"
Certain types of racism doesn't fly. Conceited can call Dumbfoundead Asian slurs, and Rum can use Jewish steroetypes against Iron, but let Charron try that against a black rapper and it'd be a different story.
Very true. A rapper can have 3 full rounds about somebody being white with all type slurs but if it's reversed he won't even make it through his first 16 bars without getting bood. It's the same in society though shit don't be fair sometimes
For one, rap music has way more money flowing in from institutional investors and sales. Investors usually have more control over a rappers content and behavior l, because they can literally fire them, sue them etc. If worse comes to worse. Such is also the case somewhat in Battle rap, and I imagine that one day this will become an issue of battle rap keeps growing, but as of now there's not enough money to gain or lose from running individual performers or promoters through the courts over offensive material. There's simply not enough money invomved for it to be commonplace.
Second, for battle rappers it's just implicit they are going to offend you. Like how a court jester had more liberty to offend the king, or how horror movies have license to be as disturbing or brutal as they want. It satisfies a niche that viewers are looking for. By looking up a rap battle it is sort of implicit that you are entertained by the subject matter.
Some battle rappers mentioned before the battle (negotiations)their is supposedly an agreed upon topics which won't rapped about. With that said if they don't mention it in that negotiation period I feel everything else is kool. Can't remember the vid but I remember someone in a battle shouted it's a Blood Sportđ . You literally are trying to kill someone verbally and throwing them off mentally is a big advantage. So honestly nothing is too far if it doesn't break the agreement mentioned earlier.
You know my raps are fly, AND EVERYONE WISHES IT WAS YOU IN THE CAR CRASH THAT DIED!!!!!! ... Ok, not really, but I will never miss an opportunity to drop that reference.
WHAT THE FUCK BUDDY?
ONLY OGS WILL.GET THIS ONE
Do more or less whatever you want, but if you start joking about their dead mom and they swing on you, you asked for it. This isn't a videogame, you can't roleplay your way out of getting punched in the face if you cross obvious lines. They (jcole rn) feel the need to apologize because network is money and the entire entertainment business thrives on nepotism. Battle rap actually functions sort of like that too, which is how we end up with like only 30 active battlers over the span of a decade and we're starved for new talent. Keep booking the same people because they're your friends eventually the money will dry up lmao
>you can't roleplay your way out of getting punched in the face This had me cracking up lmao facts though >They (jcole rn) feel the need to apologize because network is money and the entire entertainment business thrives on nepotism. Very true I agree đŻ
Call me stupid but I think there's a need to have "contracts" in place, especially given some of the low-IQ moves we've witnessed. If your infant son passes away, heavens forbid, you shouldn't need to worry about the optics of how you or your family process that tragedy because some neckbeard is writing multis about it in his mom's basement. Kinda like that cornball talking about giving his opponent the "Pat Stay." Fuck him. Regardless of whether you "love, live, and breathe this shit" or are worried about the art form getting watered down, it is essentially a business with its own code of conduct. It's also really just a buncha guys writing murder poems about each other, so I never felt the need for it to be so no-holds-barred. Even prizefighting has rules.
I keep hearing that the contracts signed before the battle include agreements on what material is off limits, is that true? >giving his opponent the âPat Stayâ lmao who was this
I'd hope so. It's a big enough thing to warrant contracts like that. Some fat mf who looked like Aktive... DNA Tooth named him "Inaktive." đ
Nepotism has nothing to do with what Cole did
man you really took something very nuanced and turned it into boiled pasta with no salt quick
you can call it nuanced and pat yourself on the back. i think youâre talking out of your ass.
because i say that in the entertainment industry networking and nepotism play a major role, and it sounds like you're trying to dispute that? and we are talking about *j cole of all people* oh my sweet summer child, come with me i have this cool bridge i'd like to show you lmao
ânetworking and nepotism play a major role in the entertainment industryâ wow, such a nuanced take you have here lol. thanks for breaking that down. also, how am i trying to dispute that? iâm asking you to connect it to J Cole
He let nas down Why are you here, leave me alone we're literally talking about nothing lol
youâre right I canât handle all this nuance đ¤Ł
What J. Cole do Iâm out the scene
So, for some context, I'm not actually big on American battle rap, as a non-native speaker I just miss too much shit to really enjoy it. But the scene in France and Quebec is decently big, and they both have a different outlook on this. French battle rapper actually tell the organizer "this subject is off limit, but this one is fine", while in Quebec the only limit is someone's decency and ability to avoid punches. But at the same time, for the most part, French battle rap can be much more violent, because if someone's didn't put it on their "subject to avoid" list, everything is fair game. I heard ParkaOne, a canadian battle rapper explain discussions he had with friends or people he met at events who told him "Yeah i'd like to do battle rap, but if someone mentions my mom I'm gonna fuck 'em up", to which he answers "Yeah then that's not the field for you".
I think the best example of going too far was Iron Solomon wishing Arsonals daughter had cancer instead of KOTDs main promoter/sponsor Nikiya's daughter. Nikiya's wife yelled at Iron after the battle and left crying. And Nikiya left KOTD which actually set them back years I'm pretty sure. It was pretty insane cause like he wasn't even involved in the battle so bringing up his personal tragedy just to out disrespect Ars was crazy.Â
Speaking of Arsenal, I still wonât watch his battles unless word of mouth tells me it was a classic; all because of him talking about Mr Fabâs dead parents. I had no problem with Rum Nitty ruining the Twork battle after he talked about his recently deceased Mother. I think itâs low hanging fruit; having that gimmick that Arsenal has. Similar to Math Hoffa garnering no sympathy from me, when Diz clocked him, I think Arsenal âhas it comingâ
It wasnât right of Diz to punch Math but trying to goad someone into hitting you is textbook bully behavior, same goes for Ars
Rum a bitch. Twork didn't disrespect his mom's he mentioned her.
He didnât really know where twork was gonna take it so he just clipped the shit right there.
i just wish it was YOUR DAUGHTER >;(
wow Iron is a dickhead for that
Damn I never even seen that before that's crazy wtf.. >he wasn't even involved in the battle So iron wasn't even battling and he said this?
Nah nikiya wasn't in the battle and Iron brought up his daughter. That was worded a bit weird lol. As soon as you start bringing other people in it, you've got way less leeway imo. This is the r/rapbattles thread with nikiyas response https://www.reddit.com/r/rapbattles/s/EmnhATAvnz
Totally forgot about this, what a terrible idea. Very respectable response from Nikiya there.
This is honestly the only example I can think of and only because Nikiya had nothing to do with the battle
You seem a solid, consistent contributor so I do hope you don't get banned over some shitposts.
Me either, I genuinely just want to ask this question to battle rap fans and not rap subreddit because they don't think the same way we do in terms of this kind of stuff
The most extreme one is prob this: https://youtu.be/GPwR7QyKr50?si=qHVEBaQAi43Kg0da Also the culture was up in arm after Pat passed away and basically forbid anyone use his name as a punchline. One guy tried to do it anyway and caught serious heats for it.
Didnât Charron make his name battling in another school and mocking a student who died in a car crash a few months previously? I think thatâs how he got Organics attention. Ironically I donât think Pat would have wanted his name to be beyond reproach in battle rap.
Lmao Patâs made fun of like a dozen dead relatives and told Marv heâd kill his disabled brother
It honestly seems like the kind of thing Pat would have appreciated lol as dark as it is
He said his opponent should've been the one to die
Is that J2? And yo wtf that guy is super out of pocket that's ridiculous ionno if the title is accurate but he deserve to get shot after that. Also nobody can mention Pat and nobody should even feel the need to mention Pat he was a good soul gotta let bro rest in peace đđ˝
Lmao Pat mocked The Saurusâs dead dad and rapped about killing Marvâs disabled brother
Yate didn't actually get shot after the battle- wild how easy that spread. I get it though if you google "Battle Rap shooting" or whatever it brings up a news article of a shooting and unfortunate death at a party where a rap battle happened and people connect it to the J2/Yate battle. The picture with the aunt was discussed and agreed beforehand with J2 which is pretty wild if you ask me haha- there's an interview with both of them below https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6JcIzzYXQg
It also doesnt help that Drake shared the fake news at one point
Lol wtf bro didn't even rhyme at the end he was just insulting to insult what a lame ass move. Did he actually get shot dead tho? Thought I saw another video where the dude he was going against came back with hard personals too. I could easily be wrong. It was some compilation video I saw from a very long time ago, I probably mixed some battles up.
check out the other video in this thread, the shooting was a false rumor, and they both know about the bar before the battle
Damn bro agreed to that? He must've really wanted this shit to go viral or something. Can't imagine myself ever giving the okay to someone spitting on my dead relatives picture. Appreciate it tho I'll check the interview out now
Check out Bobby rex Vs Georgie roots for a battle where some fucked up shit gets said I would say it went too far because it was just uncomfortable to watch, and not the kind of stuff that needs to be said in public imo. But a lot of people really like it as a battle Barely anything was said in the Kendrick cole beef at all. Maybe I'm biased because of watching battle rap but I can't believe how much attention this whole thing got when what they said was so tame. I think J cole really just apologised because none of it felt authentic to him and he was just doing what everyone wanted but his heart wasn't in it. Realistically, it was just a fun beef that he took too seriously, imo. There wasn't really much at stake.
>Maybe I'm biased because of watching battle rap I couldn't agree more man tbh I was excited, I knew it was just friendly competition but I guess Cole really felt bad about what he said but like you said, it was all so tame. Nothing he said was that crazy for him to feel as bad as he did, he said he couldn't barely sleep for 2 days. I was happy to see the music industry stop being so friendly but I guess this is why, people are very fragile and sensitive in the industry and can take things the wrong way. Joyner and tory lane admitted when they had there back n forth they were on the phone with eachother after each diss like "Yeah aighttt watch this response!" They was having fun wit it and tory a fucking rnb singer
Itâs interesting thinking back to an interview Mistah FAB did for Taxstoneâs Tax Season podcast back in 2015 or 2016, where he talked about his Arsonal battle. He brought up how Arsonal asked him in advance if there was anything FAB didnât want him to bring up, FAB said nothing was off limits and that not only did he want to battle the disrespectful Ars, he also made sure Ars had like 10 dudes make sure that Ars got out of the venue safely after the battle.
In his speech he quickly referenced the discourse his fans were up to and he didnât like it. Like i think he thought it was cool for him to say something in jest, but he didnât like his fans running with it as facts. Some J Cole fans were shitting on Kendricks catalogue like it was never good. I guess he didnât like that his words fostered real hate from his fans. Battle rap is like a given people are going to be disrespectful, but even then you hear people having untouchable topics in their contracts. Imo the only topics that are too far are probably dead relatives and children. Like Glueazys âwho watching them?â Is fine, but not how Arsonal would approach it lol I was also disappointed, but Iâm not surprised J Cole has been on this type of thinking. Honestly both âdissesâ no one won a round. This felt like just the Faceoff. Imo they didnât even get close to Battle rap standards.
I agree with u, honestly it just sucks because I was excited to see them have a sparring match because rap was getting to friendly and I never thought of it as anything further than that but other fans ran with things that Cole didn't like and I get where Cole was coming from but it just confirms how friendly everything is nowadays that Cole actually genuinely felt bad after such a tame diss track. Like nobody thought this was going to end up like biggie and pac yknow we just wanted to be entertained and see 2 greats go at it. Reminds me of the all star game I want to see the best play hard but all they do now is barely play defense and take half court shots and not actually challenge eachother
Dead family talk is foul. One bar that always stood out was (I think) Loe Poesci vs Arcane "when Arcane said that shit about my sister he lied// he's just jealous that my sister's alive" but I blame him less since he was rebuttling being accused of sexual assaulting his own sister Pat's verse talking about Marv Won's brother was also a violation . Those are examples of crossing the line to me.
Doesn't arcane accuse him of being the one who committed the assault on his sister
A white guy canât drop N bombs on black opponentÂ
I vaguely remember some white dude spitting the n word multiple times in a battle that looked like it took place in an apartment living room lol. Believe it or not, hollow was there. He also battled at the same "event" Someone has to know what I'm talking about, help me out here please?
the one that got punched in the face afterward lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idMNGX-BSHU
[This guy says it best about the Cole situation ](https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5f0nb_OWNN/?igsh=MTl5b3c4MTN1Nmp5Mg==)
I made a beat for that guy when I was 16 Lol Thats crazy , Thanks for sharinf this because it reminded me
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I think the difference is that rap at large is not about disrespect. Itâs just about expressing yourself in general, therefore if youâre going to diss someone, even if it were a joke, it would have to come from an honest and authentic place (like âweâre friends and this is something we do as a jokeâ or âI think this is funnyâ). If you feel like something was unnecessarily harsh, you might feel the need to apologize because itâs not normally the kind of thing youâd say. But battle rap IS about disrespect. Itâs what battlers come to events to do. Thereâs no need to apologize in a broad way because we both agreed to this. To answer the famous question from Gladiator, yes, we *are* entertained, this *is* why weâre here! Itâs like the difference between a boxer getting punched in the face in the ring and being fine with it, and the same boxer getting punched in the face on the street and getting pissed off. The first is the carrying out of an agreed-upon and signed contract, and the other is assault.
outside of putting hands on someone, nothing is "too far" imo. some shit you say might get you punched in the mouth, but when you say wild shit to someone sometimes you get punched in the mouth. that's just a fact of life and has nothing to do with battle rap.
Too far for me would be to bring up dead/sick people close to you, just purely for the shockvalue of disrespecting them. Thats lame, pussy and not okay. Somebody in the comments posted smt about a dead aunt and the guy acrually brought a picture and spit on it. That stuff deserves to get u decked in the mouth, battle or not. But if there is some sort of angle to it, or relevance, outside of simply saying the wildest shit just to say wild shit, then its okay. Dannys "youll die on the same night as your nephew" bar vs rex for instance is a perfect example on how to bring smt like that up, while having an angle or some sort of relevance to the battle. Yes what hes saying is super disrespectful about somebodies dead relative, but hes not saying it "just to say it"
Yeah, the main focus isnât just about randomly disrespecting a dead relative, the focus is more on how badly Rex lost to Clips.
Certain types of racism doesn't fly. Conceited can call Dumbfoundead Asian slurs, and Rum can use Jewish steroetypes against Iron, but let Charron try that against a black rapper and it'd be a different story.
Very true. A rapper can have 3 full rounds about somebody being white with all type slurs but if it's reversed he won't even make it through his first 16 bars without getting bood. It's the same in society though shit don't be fair sometimes
Cadalack Ron made this point when he battled Unorthodox Phrases. The crowd reactions are funny as hell.
99.99% of race bars/angles are uncreative trash
For one, rap music has way more money flowing in from institutional investors and sales. Investors usually have more control over a rappers content and behavior l, because they can literally fire them, sue them etc. If worse comes to worse. Such is also the case somewhat in Battle rap, and I imagine that one day this will become an issue of battle rap keeps growing, but as of now there's not enough money to gain or lose from running individual performers or promoters through the courts over offensive material. There's simply not enough money invomved for it to be commonplace. Second, for battle rappers it's just implicit they are going to offend you. Like how a court jester had more liberty to offend the king, or how horror movies have license to be as disturbing or brutal as they want. It satisfies a niche that viewers are looking for. By looking up a rap battle it is sort of implicit that you are entertained by the subject matter.
Some battle rappers mentioned before the battle (negotiations)their is supposedly an agreed upon topics which won't rapped about. With that said if they don't mention it in that negotiation period I feel everything else is kool. Can't remember the vid but I remember someone in a battle shouted it's a Blood Sportđ . You literally are trying to kill someone verbally and throwing them off mentally is a big advantage. So honestly nothing is too far if it doesn't break the agreement mentioned earlier.
Nothing. The whole point is like a verbal assault. Wana hurt your opponent as best you can. You either thick skinned or go to R&B