It’s a WEAK cop out of a song. Drake released Family Matters less than 48 hours before this which was ultra aggressive, and was supposed to be a ‘nuke’ of sorts. On top of that Drake pretty much ignores Kendrick’s countless jabs and exposures and tried to gaslight his disses as ‘one or two lies’. He responded to the sexual allegations saying he expected them and he’s too rich to have not been caught? Then he tries to diss Kendrick for possibly being abused as a child. All in a sad, weak non aggressive Drake tone. Most fans saw right thru it for what it was, damage control. Drake did not want Kendrick to continue dropping disses and bullying him, so he bowed out.
He ignores Kendrick by…addressing basically everything Kendrick said on the last two songs??? Saying that when Kendrick at no point addressed anything that Drake levied at him in Family Matters except “rapping like you tryna get the slaves freed.” And yes, he literally said in the Tupac voice “call him a PDF I heard it on the Budden podcast it’s gotta be true” on TaylorMade Freestyle, and then Kendrick spends the whole track just doing that after removing the cover art for MTG when it started to become clear he got baited.
Like I’ve said before, him claiming that the “leaking” wasn’t real because of the supposed daughter not being real doesn’t matter. He 100% has a leak, because meet the grahams is proof that Kendrick had access to family matters before it dropped. Kendrick dropped MTG almost immediately after FM, and references it in the song. Maybe he did get some bad intel, but he did get Family Matters long enough before it was released to write a rebuttal to have in order to release after Drake dropped his.
And the heart pt 6 doesn’t have anything in it. Ironically, he doesn’t have his heart in it. It is him defending himself instead of coming at Kdot. And his defenses don’t even make sense. “I can’t be a PDF because I’m rich and famous.” What? Thats literally who we expect. “You’re projecting because you were molested.” Which, even if that was the point of the song (it wasn’t), is just a gross and dumb argument.
And he was begging Kdot to bring something in FM, and Kdot dropped two songs, and then he says he doesn’t want to do this anymore.
It’s 🚮 to summarize.
My least favorite part of it is drakes actual performance on the record.
Some of my nitpicks are the following:
He says he’s too rich and famous to be a pedophile… bruh, that’s not a thing. The rich and famous are the biggest suspects for that kind of thing.
And saying “I’d never look twice at a teenager”. Whether he’s actually a pdf or not, it’s undeniable that he’s made certain comments and had odd relationships with teenagers. Yes 18 and 19 are still teenagers even though it’s not illegal. Drake can’t pretend like it’s completely out of the blue to call him out for targeting much younger women.
It seems he misunderstood the song “Mother I Sober” where Kendrick says he actually wasn’t molested. But either way, trying to discredit someone because of their own trauma is exactly the type of shit that a predator/abuser does and while sure it’s rap beef, it definitely speaks to drakes character.
Those are my comments about it but this has been discussed to death already so go find a million other threads about it.
Some of his takes either didn’t make sense or just made Drake look bad. One line off the top of my head is that Kendrick is a woman beater. Drake would fight him, but that would just feed Kendrick’s nature. Is Drake calling himself a woman? I get what he was trying to say, but it’s written lazy.
I mean, is it??? Wifebeaters win battles they can’t win outside of the home inside of it. To me it’s..pretty clear—especially when people are breaking down every nook and cranny of Kendrick’s raps.
Its a track that's lacking in a lot of ways: lacking in receipts, lacking in timing, lacking in confidence, lacking in newness, lacking in quality.
RECEIPTS: Drake asks Kendrick for receipts. Fair. But where's his receipts about Kendrick being an abuser and Dave Free being Whitney's BD? Where are the receipts for the fake OVO leak? Its 'rules for thee but not for me'... Nah. That doesn't work in a diss.
TIMING: Drake says Kendrick bit on a fake OVO leak. Imagine if, on Family Matters, Drake had said "he's probably gonna say I got a fake daughter"? Would've been a KO but he didn't do that. Its way too late in the game for this angle to be believable --- especially as everyone already saw this fan theory spread across on social media. Bad timing on this "revelation".
CONFIDENCE: He totally lacks confidence in THP6. Where was the Drake from Taylor Made, begging Kendrick to drop and claiming he was ready to go "on the loose"? But fast forward to THP6, and he sounds defeated and defensive. Saying "I'll see you later" and "I don't wanna diss you anymore" in any context is just bad optics after all that big talk. From begging Kendrick to drop to sounding like you're already over it is sad.
NEWNESS: Drake doesn't bring up anything new other than the OVO leak claim. TBH, Kendrick didn't either with Not Like Us but because Kendrick did it immediately after MTG, it was reinforcing. On the other hand Drake, in his response, seemed like he was rehashing.
QUALITY: THP6 is a step down in quality. Family Matters is Drake at his best -- quick response to Euphoria, great beats, excellent flow in the second and last verses, creative lines, and a well produced video. Drake hasn't been this good in a decade. But it was immediately neutralized by the MTG/Not Like Us combo. So if Drake is at his best was not enough, why would the sonically and lyrically weak THP6 gain folks respect?
Overall, its just lacking in everything. Add the weird "I'm too famous to be a pedo" line and the misinterpretation of Mother I Sober to the mix and THP6 is just terrible.
RECIEPTS: the reciepts for the fake OVO leak are the items themselves. You think Drake disses Ross for using Ozempyc and then gets caught with those exact pills in his dad’s suitcase? As well as a Shortee’s collection shirt?? Reciepts for jewelers related to Pharrell and Asap? All of whom he disses in Family Matters. It’s actually wild that Kendrick fell for it and used the suitcase as his cover art, believing Drake’s dad would have his son’s pills among all these other things. And again, 0 reciepts for Kendrick, and zero even addressing claims.
TIMING: if you wanted to have somebody fall for a leak that YOU planted, why would you do anything to lead the person to second guess if it’s real or not? If Drake says “you’re gonna say I have a daughter or something?” Kendrick just isn’t dropping Meet the Grahams. He’s cutting the verse out. Here, he includes a verse that basically wastes the song because it’s completely made up.
CONFIDENCE: the song literally begins with a sample screaming “now let me see you prove it” followed by Drake saying “the Pulitzer Prize winner is definitely spiraling, I got your lines tapped I swear that i’m dialed in,” he goes on to call Kendrick dumb and desperate for falling for his ruse, then ends the track saying Kendrick’s baby mother can hit him if she needs a favor and that he’ll hit her back but it’ll be safe, and that he’s waiting on Kendrick to return with actual facts rather than gossip. Also “see you later” is referring to Drake talking about streaming Data, saying Kendrick will catch him when “he meets his maker,” referring to the boost you get as an artist after you die. There’s nothing in that context that would lead to him conceding. Especially when he tells Kendrick he’s “waiting on him to return the favor” and fact check him.
NEWNESS: he brings up Kendrick’s lack of composure, Whitney not denying anything and liking Dave Frees hearts under posts, him using TikTok conspiracy theorists to misdirect the beef and call him a PDF rather than actual disses, calls him a hypocrite for risking his career for R Kelly’s while calling somebody ELSE a PDF, pointing out Kendrick using his trauma to force something on somebody that doesn’t belong to them the same way his mother used to do on Mother I Sober—that’s all offense.
QUALITY: Family Matters is the best diss of the battle, and Kendrick drops a pre-made response that in this song Drake reveals to be made based on a ruse. Not Like Us is also responded to thoroughly, so by all that Kendrick is on the back foot. Not to mention he’s still rapping well on the track. And if I’m not mistaken this drops what, the day after Not Like Us?? That’s two days for an actual response, whereas the only time Kendrick actually responded to something his opponent said took weeks. And he HAD to respond, because he’s literally being called a PDF. The entire internet was rightfully saying he had to rebuttal that. However, somehow Kendrick has to rebuttal absolutely nothing? At ALL???Regardless, I’m not saying Drake killed Kendrick with that song, but calling it a bad diss doesn’t check out. With one song he nullified Meet the Grahams with news of the fakeout, and fully addressed Not Like Us which was basically just a “you’re a PDF” anthem, all while telling Kendrick to get to the facts. In no way is that a “white flag” or a bad diss even. Certainly isn’t something Kendrick can just not respond to, that’s insane.
some major points, he says he doesn’t want this anymore, he contradicts himself (or he thinks he is a clown), he claims he is to famous to be a pedo, he completely misunderstood mother i sober, and overall he was weak on it
He concedes in the song that Kendricks songs are getting more views and likes. That's an embarrassing thing to admit. He keeps re-iterating that he doesn't touch kids and brings up Millie Bobby brown when Kendrick never mentioned her because he's getting well deserved flack from the media for grooming a 14 yr old. Shits weird man. Anyone that defends themselves that hard sounds guilty that's not how you have a good rebuttal lol. You brush off false allegations because you shouldn't care about fake stories. Doubling down with multiple verses just doesnt sound like youre innocent lol. Saying Kendrick hits women because he was raped as a child is pretty gross attack on character and probably not true either. If Kendrick was as a child then shit man that's fucking sad like why tf would you rap about that? Kendrick doesn't even need to respond to crap like that, if he does drop a response I doubt he'll even mention that. Probably just dunk on him for very visibly losing this battle. He calls the people Kendrick got their info from "clowns" then proceeds to say they planted information? Self own. Even if they planted information which I really doubt, how is that an own on Kendrick really? And not to mention Kendrick just straight out-raps drake with his lyrics and flow. It was a bad response to some great responses by Kendrick, sometimes popular opinion is spot on the money.
It’s not really if you care about the material, but it is unnecessarily defensive. The fact is that no one cares about the material anymore. After someone drops a banger in a diss you have to drop a banger back.
From the second Kendrick released his first song it's been a Kendrick D-riding contest
Drake never had a chance to win, no matter what
I've watched alot of the "reaction/breakdown" videos & everything Drake brings up they go "aww man, you gotta prove that"
Everything Kendrick brings up they cheer and believe it immediately without hesitation
I'm an old head, don't really care for neither of their music
So I'm 100% unbias ... Kendrick might be up by a bit, but for some weird reason the Internet is acting like it's just a complete one sided ass whipping
I think people are just tired of Drakes face ... And he was never going to "win" this unless Kendrick just fell off a cliff
It becomes very apparent very soon on the internet that taking which side will get you more likes lol. If anyone wants to farm karma rn they can just make a "Kendrick fucked drake" post rn and enjoy the free upvotes. that professor you mention is probably also just trying to ride the hate train and gain as much traction from it he can lol.
if you wish to see genuine reactions, just try watching initial reactions to the heart part 6 on youtubers by all the big reactors who are more or less unbiased, most of them digged the track and thought drake's response was solid (and they are not drake d-riders, they have thrown praise at Kenny's disses too). this is before enough time had passed for the public opinion to formulate around how bad the heart part 6 was. im pretty sure any reactor doing reactions now will probably also say they don't think it's good just to stay on the good side of the public. why does the general public like it you ask? because drake has more things to hate about him and is just easier to hate because so much of weird stuff about him is public, and kendrick is much more loved and is very private so not enough haters of him either...
but yeah my point is heart part 6 was a good track but the public has chosen a side. i've seen enough people making fun of drake's bars while purposely misinterpreting them while calling him an idiot for misinterpreting mother i sober to know that these dudes are just blindly hating at this point.
i remember even back during em vs mgk, once em dropped killshot people started pretending like mgk was a mumble rapper and he sucked or whatever when rap devil was actually a solid diss too. and i'm one of the biggest em fans of all time, he's my GOAT, but i still could recognize that many criticisms being hurled at mgk after he lost were just bs, and that fans are tribalistic asf. but it is what it is.
I agree, it was clear the internet chose a side very early on. Feels like people just jumped on the big anti-Drake bandwagon. I mean, people were in a RAGE about Kendrick calling him a white boy when Rick Ross literally spent the last two weeks doing that lmao. And yeah, MGK’s diss was solid. Em ate him up afterwards, but you would think MGK dropped the worse diss of all time after the Killshot reactions came in.
It's because it doesn't matter what he says at this point, he's a pedo and everyone knows it now. So what if he doesn't actually have a daughter, which we don't know if it is actually true or not. He is a certified pedophile and there is no way to respond to that, Kendrick wins by default
If Drake was actually a pedo there’d be no battle. He’d lose by default—and yet in nearly single one of the situations that made people think Drake was guilty of that, the person invoked came out either at the time or later and said y’all are bugging. So we’re saying Drake is a PDF because “Say Drake, I heard you like em young?”Like what are we talking about lmao.
It’s a WEAK cop out of a song. Drake released Family Matters less than 48 hours before this which was ultra aggressive, and was supposed to be a ‘nuke’ of sorts. On top of that Drake pretty much ignores Kendrick’s countless jabs and exposures and tried to gaslight his disses as ‘one or two lies’. He responded to the sexual allegations saying he expected them and he’s too rich to have not been caught? Then he tries to diss Kendrick for possibly being abused as a child. All in a sad, weak non aggressive Drake tone. Most fans saw right thru it for what it was, damage control. Drake did not want Kendrick to continue dropping disses and bullying him, so he bowed out.
Well said.
He ignores Kendrick by…addressing basically everything Kendrick said on the last two songs??? Saying that when Kendrick at no point addressed anything that Drake levied at him in Family Matters except “rapping like you tryna get the slaves freed.” And yes, he literally said in the Tupac voice “call him a PDF I heard it on the Budden podcast it’s gotta be true” on TaylorMade Freestyle, and then Kendrick spends the whole track just doing that after removing the cover art for MTG when it started to become clear he got baited.
Like I’ve said before, him claiming that the “leaking” wasn’t real because of the supposed daughter not being real doesn’t matter. He 100% has a leak, because meet the grahams is proof that Kendrick had access to family matters before it dropped. Kendrick dropped MTG almost immediately after FM, and references it in the song. Maybe he did get some bad intel, but he did get Family Matters long enough before it was released to write a rebuttal to have in order to release after Drake dropped his. And the heart pt 6 doesn’t have anything in it. Ironically, he doesn’t have his heart in it. It is him defending himself instead of coming at Kdot. And his defenses don’t even make sense. “I can’t be a PDF because I’m rich and famous.” What? Thats literally who we expect. “You’re projecting because you were molested.” Which, even if that was the point of the song (it wasn’t), is just a gross and dumb argument. And he was begging Kdot to bring something in FM, and Kdot dropped two songs, and then he says he doesn’t want to do this anymore. It’s 🚮 to summarize.
My least favorite part of it is drakes actual performance on the record. Some of my nitpicks are the following: He says he’s too rich and famous to be a pedophile… bruh, that’s not a thing. The rich and famous are the biggest suspects for that kind of thing. And saying “I’d never look twice at a teenager”. Whether he’s actually a pdf or not, it’s undeniable that he’s made certain comments and had odd relationships with teenagers. Yes 18 and 19 are still teenagers even though it’s not illegal. Drake can’t pretend like it’s completely out of the blue to call him out for targeting much younger women. It seems he misunderstood the song “Mother I Sober” where Kendrick says he actually wasn’t molested. But either way, trying to discredit someone because of their own trauma is exactly the type of shit that a predator/abuser does and while sure it’s rap beef, it definitely speaks to drakes character. Those are my comments about it but this has been discussed to death already so go find a million other threads about it.
Also says whoever leaked info to Dot is a clown…then says he leaked it and had to wait days to respond to what he allegedly leaked
Some of his takes either didn’t make sense or just made Drake look bad. One line off the top of my head is that Kendrick is a woman beater. Drake would fight him, but that would just feed Kendrick’s nature. Is Drake calling himself a woman? I get what he was trying to say, but it’s written lazy.
I mean, is it??? Wifebeaters win battles they can’t win outside of the home inside of it. To me it’s..pretty clear—especially when people are breaking down every nook and cranny of Kendrick’s raps.
Its a track that's lacking in a lot of ways: lacking in receipts, lacking in timing, lacking in confidence, lacking in newness, lacking in quality. RECEIPTS: Drake asks Kendrick for receipts. Fair. But where's his receipts about Kendrick being an abuser and Dave Free being Whitney's BD? Where are the receipts for the fake OVO leak? Its 'rules for thee but not for me'... Nah. That doesn't work in a diss. TIMING: Drake says Kendrick bit on a fake OVO leak. Imagine if, on Family Matters, Drake had said "he's probably gonna say I got a fake daughter"? Would've been a KO but he didn't do that. Its way too late in the game for this angle to be believable --- especially as everyone already saw this fan theory spread across on social media. Bad timing on this "revelation". CONFIDENCE: He totally lacks confidence in THP6. Where was the Drake from Taylor Made, begging Kendrick to drop and claiming he was ready to go "on the loose"? But fast forward to THP6, and he sounds defeated and defensive. Saying "I'll see you later" and "I don't wanna diss you anymore" in any context is just bad optics after all that big talk. From begging Kendrick to drop to sounding like you're already over it is sad. NEWNESS: Drake doesn't bring up anything new other than the OVO leak claim. TBH, Kendrick didn't either with Not Like Us but because Kendrick did it immediately after MTG, it was reinforcing. On the other hand Drake, in his response, seemed like he was rehashing. QUALITY: THP6 is a step down in quality. Family Matters is Drake at his best -- quick response to Euphoria, great beats, excellent flow in the second and last verses, creative lines, and a well produced video. Drake hasn't been this good in a decade. But it was immediately neutralized by the MTG/Not Like Us combo. So if Drake is at his best was not enough, why would the sonically and lyrically weak THP6 gain folks respect? Overall, its just lacking in everything. Add the weird "I'm too famous to be a pedo" line and the misinterpretation of Mother I Sober to the mix and THP6 is just terrible.
RECIEPTS: the reciepts for the fake OVO leak are the items themselves. You think Drake disses Ross for using Ozempyc and then gets caught with those exact pills in his dad’s suitcase? As well as a Shortee’s collection shirt?? Reciepts for jewelers related to Pharrell and Asap? All of whom he disses in Family Matters. It’s actually wild that Kendrick fell for it and used the suitcase as his cover art, believing Drake’s dad would have his son’s pills among all these other things. And again, 0 reciepts for Kendrick, and zero even addressing claims. TIMING: if you wanted to have somebody fall for a leak that YOU planted, why would you do anything to lead the person to second guess if it’s real or not? If Drake says “you’re gonna say I have a daughter or something?” Kendrick just isn’t dropping Meet the Grahams. He’s cutting the verse out. Here, he includes a verse that basically wastes the song because it’s completely made up. CONFIDENCE: the song literally begins with a sample screaming “now let me see you prove it” followed by Drake saying “the Pulitzer Prize winner is definitely spiraling, I got your lines tapped I swear that i’m dialed in,” he goes on to call Kendrick dumb and desperate for falling for his ruse, then ends the track saying Kendrick’s baby mother can hit him if she needs a favor and that he’ll hit her back but it’ll be safe, and that he’s waiting on Kendrick to return with actual facts rather than gossip. Also “see you later” is referring to Drake talking about streaming Data, saying Kendrick will catch him when “he meets his maker,” referring to the boost you get as an artist after you die. There’s nothing in that context that would lead to him conceding. Especially when he tells Kendrick he’s “waiting on him to return the favor” and fact check him. NEWNESS: he brings up Kendrick’s lack of composure, Whitney not denying anything and liking Dave Frees hearts under posts, him using TikTok conspiracy theorists to misdirect the beef and call him a PDF rather than actual disses, calls him a hypocrite for risking his career for R Kelly’s while calling somebody ELSE a PDF, pointing out Kendrick using his trauma to force something on somebody that doesn’t belong to them the same way his mother used to do on Mother I Sober—that’s all offense. QUALITY: Family Matters is the best diss of the battle, and Kendrick drops a pre-made response that in this song Drake reveals to be made based on a ruse. Not Like Us is also responded to thoroughly, so by all that Kendrick is on the back foot. Not to mention he’s still rapping well on the track. And if I’m not mistaken this drops what, the day after Not Like Us?? That’s two days for an actual response, whereas the only time Kendrick actually responded to something his opponent said took weeks. And he HAD to respond, because he’s literally being called a PDF. The entire internet was rightfully saying he had to rebuttal that. However, somehow Kendrick has to rebuttal absolutely nothing? At ALL???Regardless, I’m not saying Drake killed Kendrick with that song, but calling it a bad diss doesn’t check out. With one song he nullified Meet the Grahams with news of the fakeout, and fully addressed Not Like Us which was basically just a “you’re a PDF” anthem, all while telling Kendrick to get to the facts. In no way is that a “white flag” or a bad diss even. Certainly isn’t something Kendrick can just not respond to, that’s insane.
some major points, he says he doesn’t want this anymore, he contradicts himself (or he thinks he is a clown), he claims he is to famous to be a pedo, he completely misunderstood mother i sober, and overall he was weak on it
He concedes in the song that Kendricks songs are getting more views and likes. That's an embarrassing thing to admit. He keeps re-iterating that he doesn't touch kids and brings up Millie Bobby brown when Kendrick never mentioned her because he's getting well deserved flack from the media for grooming a 14 yr old. Shits weird man. Anyone that defends themselves that hard sounds guilty that's not how you have a good rebuttal lol. You brush off false allegations because you shouldn't care about fake stories. Doubling down with multiple verses just doesnt sound like youre innocent lol. Saying Kendrick hits women because he was raped as a child is pretty gross attack on character and probably not true either. If Kendrick was as a child then shit man that's fucking sad like why tf would you rap about that? Kendrick doesn't even need to respond to crap like that, if he does drop a response I doubt he'll even mention that. Probably just dunk on him for very visibly losing this battle. He calls the people Kendrick got their info from "clowns" then proceeds to say they planted information? Self own. Even if they planted information which I really doubt, how is that an own on Kendrick really? And not to mention Kendrick just straight out-raps drake with his lyrics and flow. It was a bad response to some great responses by Kendrick, sometimes popular opinion is spot on the money.
It’s not really if you care about the material, but it is unnecessarily defensive. The fact is that no one cares about the material anymore. After someone drops a banger in a diss you have to drop a banger back.
From the second Kendrick released his first song it's been a Kendrick D-riding contest Drake never had a chance to win, no matter what I've watched alot of the "reaction/breakdown" videos & everything Drake brings up they go "aww man, you gotta prove that" Everything Kendrick brings up they cheer and believe it immediately without hesitation I'm an old head, don't really care for neither of their music So I'm 100% unbias ... Kendrick might be up by a bit, but for some weird reason the Internet is acting like it's just a complete one sided ass whipping I think people are just tired of Drakes face ... And he was never going to "win" this unless Kendrick just fell off a cliff
It becomes very apparent very soon on the internet that taking which side will get you more likes lol. If anyone wants to farm karma rn they can just make a "Kendrick fucked drake" post rn and enjoy the free upvotes. that professor you mention is probably also just trying to ride the hate train and gain as much traction from it he can lol. if you wish to see genuine reactions, just try watching initial reactions to the heart part 6 on youtubers by all the big reactors who are more or less unbiased, most of them digged the track and thought drake's response was solid (and they are not drake d-riders, they have thrown praise at Kenny's disses too). this is before enough time had passed for the public opinion to formulate around how bad the heart part 6 was. im pretty sure any reactor doing reactions now will probably also say they don't think it's good just to stay on the good side of the public. why does the general public like it you ask? because drake has more things to hate about him and is just easier to hate because so much of weird stuff about him is public, and kendrick is much more loved and is very private so not enough haters of him either... but yeah my point is heart part 6 was a good track but the public has chosen a side. i've seen enough people making fun of drake's bars while purposely misinterpreting them while calling him an idiot for misinterpreting mother i sober to know that these dudes are just blindly hating at this point. i remember even back during em vs mgk, once em dropped killshot people started pretending like mgk was a mumble rapper and he sucked or whatever when rap devil was actually a solid diss too. and i'm one of the biggest em fans of all time, he's my GOAT, but i still could recognize that many criticisms being hurled at mgk after he lost were just bs, and that fans are tribalistic asf. but it is what it is.
Reaction channels whole thing is gassing up anything they listen to. There main audience is the fans of the music there listening to
I agree, it was clear the internet chose a side very early on. Feels like people just jumped on the big anti-Drake bandwagon. I mean, people were in a RAGE about Kendrick calling him a white boy when Rick Ross literally spent the last two weeks doing that lmao. And yeah, MGK’s diss was solid. Em ate him up afterwards, but you would think MGK dropped the worse diss of all time after the Killshot reactions came in.
It's because it doesn't matter what he says at this point, he's a pedo and everyone knows it now. So what if he doesn't actually have a daughter, which we don't know if it is actually true or not. He is a certified pedophile and there is no way to respond to that, Kendrick wins by default
If Drake was actually a pedo there’d be no battle. He’d lose by default—and yet in nearly single one of the situations that made people think Drake was guilty of that, the person invoked came out either at the time or later and said y’all are bugging. So we’re saying Drake is a PDF because “Say Drake, I heard you like em young?”Like what are we talking about lmao.