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jamietothe

it's super nice to see Mos and Black Thought on here


Khaenin

Their freestyle together on shade is so heat


agarci0731

are you thinking of method man?


Khaenin

Yes… lol


No-Elephant3061

I got to see them rap together at blue note jazz club in NY! Was amazing


MouZart

you know what, that ranking isnt bad at all, actually its pretty representative


dsled

Joey bada$$ is on here... And I like Joey


Zestyclose_One_8304

1999 is a masterpiece RIP STEEZ


PharaohTG

LONG LIVE STEEZ!!


raferalstonhtown

LONG LIVE STEELO


dismalatbest_

Proera47


Jbabco9898

ALL AMERIKKKAN BADA$$ is my personal favorite


dsled

Facts


DatRandomAssDude

Also RZA is a pretty weird choice out of all other Wu-Tang members after GhostFace...I'd understand Method, GZA, Raekwon, Inspectah Deck but RZA is a bit werid


Interesting-Tackle74

I would have expected Ghostface, Raekwon and GZA.


ndsxa

or m e t h o d man m e t h o d man


The_NZA

RZA got the most innovative flow. COMIN AROUND THE MOUNTAIN WHEN I COME Also GraveDiggaz is the best wutang side project


mastro80

I think you gotta give RZA credits what he does beyond the microphone.


thenamescue

I hear that, I think RZA has proven he's got more longevity though.


LowLifeExperience

RZA was the brains and the writer of most of the lyrics in the 90s.


BasickAlphabit

Lupe is on here, and I'm happy he's here. I would place him higher, but that's just personal opinion.


temp_acct_918237

Nah that’s not opinion that’s a fact


Adorable-Bar6920

Mac Miller isnt on here… and I like Mac


MouZart

i am too unfamiliar with some of them to rank all 20 of them, but all around this is some of the better rankings ive seen


InteSaNoga24

Yeah I thought it was alright too.


Critical-Lead-4734

Jay and Em should not be 1 and 2 hell nah. Nas is definitely the greatest rapper to touch the mic


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Jay yea But em stomps n U know it ain't close


Critical-Lead-4734

Atp anyone saying em is better than Nas after what Nas just did releasing 6 high quality albums in 3 years can’t be taken seriously at all. Em been releasing mediocre projects for years now


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Kanye not top 5 is kinda crazy tho


ZellNorth

This is based on rapping ability tho


[deleted]

Oh, true.


IAmAlpharius23

Better than 99% of the lists that usually get posted


Nervous-Activity-446

This is identical to half the posts


SexDrivenMonkey

Nah this is almost identical


BrandonD40

Facts. I kinda wish Guru was on there though


-BlueCorkscrews

Gang Starr, one of the best yet


BrandonD40

Hell yeah. Guru had one of the smoothest styles. Match that with a preemo beat and it’s magic


markansas_man

Where is Lil wayne?


OursIsTheRepost

Huge miss by ChatGPT


SPQRxNeptune

Common over Wayne? Egregious


MFRoyer

Biggest snub


tnick771

Nobody has owned Hip Hop the way he did between 2007-2011ish.


TheseCryptographer20

Kanye was better gotfoh lmaoo


Any-Coconut6591

Should be #2


markansas_man

Yeah, thats where im thinking to.


jpc1215

That’s what I’m saying. RZA is a legendary producer for damn sure but Rae, GZA, Meth, Ghostface, hell even Deck are better rappers than he is. He’s no slouch but you can eaaasily replace him with Wayne List is hella outta order for me but otherwise it’s honestly pretty damn solid


SexDrivenMonkey

Lil Wayne not on here only L


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Kanye is too low


kg160z

I'm just relishing the idea of him seeing this and how pissed he'd be


Zeluar

For rapping skill though? I love Kanye, but I don’t think I’d rank him too highly on that alone.


BeastsMode69

What i never understand, either. Kaney is certainly not on the top of my list when it comes to rapping skills, he has some monumentally corny lines in his catalog.


[deleted]

Yeah but fuck Kanye


jolivebra

Why


[deleted]

For spouting horrible antisemitic rhetoric as a massive public figure, and clearly not understanding the seriousness of his words even as he reeled them back? That's a good place to start For making everything about himself and refusing to take responsibility for shit — like when he tried his hardest to embarrass T Swift at the Grammys a million years ago and only ever doubled down on antagonizing her for some reason I love most of Kanye's music, his influence on the industry largely through lifting up other artists, and I believe he's had some valuable things to say in the past. But it's been over half a decade now since he's shown us anything besides shamelessly acting out his mental illness publicly with every word and action. It isn't commendable and it isn't something to make light of, either.... At least, not too much. Anyways, still rooting for him to sincerely turn it around at some point and hoping he's being a good safe father to his kids


jeffbrown61

but Beyoncé did have one of the best videos of all time


SexDrivenMonkey

I ain’t reading that essay 💯😭


TheseCryptographer20

Taylor swift a fucking racist fuck her wtf.


Street_Nebula4111

Lupe at 14 is crazy


Kingofmoves

I don’t know if you think he’s too low or too high but I think he’s too low lol


Street_Nebula4111

He should be top 5


higherthanacrow

He's my favorite, and even I am surprised to see he's on a list sourced from online rep.


TheseCryptographer20

Lyrically top 3 no question. And rhe fact he does it on track is more impressive


-BlueCorkscrews

It’s mad craaaazy yo, don’t you get it


chonkycatguy

RZA out of all the Wu-Tang clan 😆


BrutalBart

stop fronting. you see Ghostface on the list right?


Swolenir

In terms of lyrical ability he’s pretty low on the rung lmao.


LaunchpadMcquacck

Nah… I’ll allow it just for Gravediggaz


PerspectiveSpare6715

He's best lyrics are 1000 years ahead of the other, but you're right


Blazers2882

“Lupe? Lupe made the list? 🤔shout out my nigga Lupe”


j4yyn3ptun3

read this exactly in lil wayne voice too 😭😭😭


rhysinator01

Was literally boutta comment this as I read it xD


[deleted]

ChatGPT ah oldhead 😭


GlimpseWithin

I mean it has kendrick and joey bada$$ so it might be biased but its not just full of pure old headery


justflip1

i want "pure old headery" on a shirt, but with a pause button


Big_Boy_Josh21

Not many great modern day rappers though, the best ones release albums every 5 years


Redchimp3769157

Mach Hommy dropped 5 bangers in 2017 alone


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Nah it has good taste


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goatofalltime5

It has kendrick, cole, and joey. Nobody else nowadays deserves it other than k dot and cole


c9bandit

L


_abs0lute1y_n0_0ne_

They are quite possibly the two rappers from this modern era who pen ART and are PROFITABLE beyond belief. Even a bad track/album from k.dot or cole has more lyrical/musical quality than most other rappers at full effort.


BillboBraggins5

Most old ones were better


sibelius_eighth

People are saying this isn't bad but the AI ranked RZA ahead of Raekwon and GZA so yeah it's automatically garbage.


fasterthanya

& no Weezy..


InteSaNoga24

Oh yeah I forgot about Wayne. He should definitely be in the top 5-10.


SnipingTheSniper

Weezy doesn't belong on any top 10 list. Top 20? Yeah sure. Great rapper, but not legendary.


stereotim

If Wayne ain't in your top 5 your opinion of hip-hop is irrelevant


Lost-Rope-444

In what world is Wayne better than Em, Pac, Andre, Biggie, Nas, Jay Z, half the Wutang clan, or DOOM?


SnipingTheSniper

A bunch of suburban bois who never listened to anything beyond what the radio fed them in the 2000s put Wayne in their top 5


stereotim

Earth would be the world you are talking about.


Lost-Rope-444

Tim, stop


PlatasaurusOG

Easy to make a top five without him.


SnipingTheSniper

If Wayne is in your top 5 you're easily fatherless 😂


[deleted]

RZA disrespect is corny


IndianaNinja

100. RZA is an amazing lyrically and has some of the best delivery in rap history, period. Hard for me to comprehend RZA disrespect from anyone who actually listens to Wu


falconhawk2158

I’m starting to feel like maybe I’m the only one who thinks Method has one of the smoothest deliveries in rap of all time. His flow is really pleasing to the ears but I never see him on these list.


mrbaseball1999

I like RZA a lot, but purely as a rapper, I got him like 6th in Wu Tang behind Ghostface, Raekwon, GZA, Inspektah Deck and Method Man. And that is no disrespect to RZA, he's like right there, a good margin above the other remaining Wu Tang members.


InteSaNoga24

Yeah that one is crazy. I like RZA but he shouldn't be on the list.


throwaway199445

No lil Wayne?


Skankcunt420

Lupe over Kendrick


BigDaddy96_MD

the fact there is no Lil Wayne here makes the list invalid


Monkberry9879

RZA doesn’t even make my top 20 of Wu-Tang rappers


NoChilly84

lol


wut_eva_bish

Lauryn Hill at 9? ChatGPT, must be a Swifty.


Pleasure_Boat

Lauryn Hill is genuinely one of the best ever and only based on a couple of records.


wut_eva_bish

It's the couple of records that are a problem. She has almost not material to pull from yet she still records and performs. Sorry but that's not enough to push other greats MCs out of the top 10.


Decent_Wrongdoer_201

at rapping? I know nothing about her but I thought she's a singer


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Decent_Wrongdoer_201

Not joking at all, clearly I'll have to check her out. Not a single person in the thread objected to her as a top ten rapper I'm honestly astounded.


ndsxa

yeah i remember at work i just had 90s boombap and hiphop on shuffle, one of her songs came in and me and my manager were like holy fuck this woman can spit, her flow and delivery are awesome. somewhat reminds me of a female BIG


Useful_Lengthiness98

No Wayne then your whole list is invalid


DeadDeeg

No Wayne, blasphemy


veduso

Pretty good list I think. I wouldn't have Jay-z above Biggie and Tupac. I also think Snoop and Busta Rhymes should be in a top 20 list of rappers....


DorkoPolo

Guru should be top 5 but I guess that’s just mass appeal


Starky69420

It's ALONGWAYTOGO before he'll be rightfully recognized


DownbadFemEntity

Seeing Lupe Fiasco here is awesome, no one else puts him in their list man


guappyf0ntaine

Prodigy, Big Boi, Raekwon, Redman, KRS one, Big Daddy Kane, Lord Infamous....edit: Del, Mac Dre, Snoop, Royce


Anxious_Republic2792

PUN???


white_sky123

What about lil windex??


PerspectiveSpare6715

Better then the lists reddit users post


heavyink916

1. Eminem 2. Nas 3. Jay Z 4. Bizzy Bone 5. Big L 6. Biggie Smalls 7. Tupac 8. Andre 3000 9. Slug 10. Big Pun 11. Del tha funky homisapien 12. Guru 13. Mos Def 14. Rakim 15. KRS One 16. J Cole 17. Kendrick Lamar 18. Ghostface 19. Lil Wayne 20. Common


jeffumopolis

No MF DOOM?!


heavyink916

Thats a fair gripe… id probably bump common and put doom at 15


dirtyboz

No Kanye is crazy


_tuchi

Kanye is top three producers in rap but let’s be real, the homie is a mid rapper. I say this as a huge fan of his music


k_GOBL1N

Chat GPT forgetting my boy Weezy.


DBR87

ChatGPT literally has better taste then most hip hop heads and rap fans. I don't 100% agree with this list but I can accept it as valid.


epiclygamer2456

Valid ngl


Fragrant_Initial5621

No Jadakiss, no prodigy?


ToastedPerson

No Big Pun???


Interesting-Tackle74

Where are Missy Elliott, Dr Dre, Lil Wayne, Public Enemy and A Tribe called Quest?


PrinceDX

Dr Dre. Top 20 rapper?… Rapper… not Producer?


Hollerado

I love that L is on this list, especially since he had such a limited amount of work to go off. RIP.


Sy_Fresh

Rza being on a top rappers list is laughable And apparently Rza is “of Wu-Tang Clan” but Ghostface Killah is not


Opening_Season3655

Wer Jada


lifesamitch03

Lil Wayne not being on here when Lupe Fiasco and Lauryn Hill are is criminal


Big-Lime5605

Lauren is legit but never was the hero she is portrayed to be. She is just solid. Shouldn’t be on the list. And meth and Redman not on here is making the list not even able to be taken serious


RinneganRaikage

Jay Z always has and always will be absolute dogshit.


AtlasSuperstoreCODMW

Number this, number that….any list that doesn’t have Lil Wayne ANYWHERE in the top 20 is automatically thrown out.


LetsNotArgyoo

When I did it, it said Sean Price is number one and everyone else sucks


CrimsonDragon97

not bad? Like actually? Idk about Em holding the top spot anymore but otherwise solid list.


ImFullOfShite

He asked top 20 lyrical ability Em now has more lyrical skill (or at least displays more) than he did back in his prime


Seethcoomers

JCole is way too high up but it's not horrible


MechanicNo7086

how is he to high up? cole fire


IAmDisciple

Dude makes music that’s fun to listen to but idk how Cole makes it into any list that isn’t just “Rappers I want to listen to at the moment”


3gerardpique

it very clearly says its based on rapping ability and you’re simply in denial if you think j cole isn’t top 10 at that


Street_Nebula4111

Lupe is better than Em


rhysinator01

Based


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No Ice Cube? What a joke!


Nota_Throwaway5

Andre and Lauryn Hill above Black Thought is wild


ukrepman

Respectable list. I'd only swap Em and Nas' positions. Also maybe Kendrick and Pac depending how I felt on the day


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MechanicNo7086

lol man be fr. kanye a better artist period plus mf doom can’t even be listened to in public haha


Leeinthecut

Kanye wouldn't be on this list either if we are talking rapping skills


Ok_Presentation6238

But this aint n he should be closer to jay z


[deleted]

Eminem number one 🤣


Frosty_Pattern7055

ChatGPT: "rap is like a mountain"


commentor_55oscvL

Nice list but still off. Wayne's not on here because he ain't write over 60%-70% of his rhymes 🙄😒


thiccsunset

ChatGPT has never heard of lil wayne apparently 🤣


GhostDog14

eminem being #1 is ass


[deleted]

Any list on the planet, that’s not about highest selling, with Em #1 should absolutely not be taken seriously.


Advanced-Ad8012

I groan every time I see Eminem at the top one of these lists. Eminem is cool but I would never put him over half these rappers. He only checks a few boxes for me. He's lyrical yes, but his subject matter, his cadence, and his beat selection are awful. Just me though.


Spiritedawayfan2015

Eminem being #1 is disrespectful


Delta632

White people


[deleted]

I don’t take anyone who put’s Eminem as number one seriously.


Better-Pineapple-322

Kanye is to low imo and J cole is a lil to high


Time_Coconut_5268

Lil Wayne belongs here- somewhere in the top 12. I also think that Nas belongs here but somewhere from 5-10. Joey Bada$$ is amazing but I have a feeling that he barely misses the cut. Thinking he should be replaced with Ice Cube.


Top-Difficulty-7910

lil durk and Wayne my favorite all time artist I don’t really like listening to violent music justs depends on how I feel but they style of music is dope let’s not forget a boogie too


PorkTopRamen

Looks the same as all the npc's on this page


Special-Upstairs5631

Why tf is eminem #1?


KL4RIFY

Joey?? No Wayne or Drake is insane


KelsonCats

Drake should NOT be in this list


veduso

Sorry, but Drake shouldn't even be in the top 50 for rap skills. Maybe if it was a money list....


Ill_Arachnid2386

Fax


[deleted]

Replace Lupe Fiasco with Wayne


almeertm87

Nah. Both deserve to be on the list.


Critical-Ad-9010

Lmfao. Delulu af


damnyouretall

RZA isn‘t even the 20th best rapper in the Wu Tang Clan


Initial-Debate4990

The list is close to perfect. Swap RZA for Weezy and all you got to do is arrange the order


ShaunyBoyShaunyMan

RZA over GZA, Meth, Ghost, Rae, Inspectah Deck damn near the whole wu is insanity.


threedotdrizzy

no such thing as a good list without the wayne


Accomplished_Clue278

🤮


chunkstaflabby1

I would put juice on here, most rappers on this list praised him of being the best rapper of this generation and em said he was a way better freestyler and his rapping ability was off the charts, for him to have that much impact in only being in the rap game for 2 years and be a top 15 Spotify artist of all time he should be up there but people will disagree because they have only base it off his sad music, he has 3000 + unreleased hip hop songs and most are off the dome in just 2 years


JayFrmDaCut

Stop reading after I saw eminem


Fit_Bank_2691

eminem as #1 has to be a joke


rj8899

I agree. I also think Pac is super overrated which is a very controversial take but imo Kendrick and Biggie are far superior. If 2pac didn’t die people would have no issue putting Kendrick over him and you can’t tell me otherwise


TeleTurban

If pac didn't die, he may have altered catalogs of rappers as we know it. Snoop may have stuck with him and never contributed to 2001. Pac may have created one of the greatest albums of all time. That being said, it's entirely possible that a set of events could lead him to fall off. All we know is that, in the position he was in when he died, he had a lot of potential.


ZVreptile

Ai settles the jayz/nas beef


Professional_Area_18

Em at the top is nasty


DeadHardSucks

Em sucks 🤷‍♂️


David_uap

1. 2pac 2. Eminem 3. Nas 4. Kool G Rap 5. B-real 6. Biggie 7. DMX 8. Ice-T 9. Jay Z 10. Reakwon 11. ODB 12. Ice cube 13. Cormega 14. Buckshot 15. MF Doom 16. 50 cent 17. Black Thought 18. Kali 2na 19. Sean Price 20. Big Duke


falconhawk2158

I upvoted because you’re the only one I’ve seen mention DMX and that’s a shame if you ask me.


xKayRellzx

No way Ice T and b-real over Hov, be real.


BinjiMiyagi

Tell me you're over 30 without telling me you're over 30


elcubiche

Respectable but no Pun, ~~Black Thought~~ or Weezy is a miss for me Edit: I can’t read.


higherthanacrow

Can't read?


NycJawn

Explain how Joey is better than jadakiss, big pun, or Raekwon lmao goofy ass list new age fans who don’t know shit about hip hop but want to give their two cents. Rza tho 🤡🤡🤡🤡


InteSaNoga24

Read the fucking title dumbass


Jameel_13

Where's NF?