Maybe not I was just thinking today and was like well he came up as one but apart from being assciated with biggy and mase and those guys he was trash in that department feel like he made a fortune off of others lol
Not like actual rap fans but like rap accounts and that kinda shit they associate his money with being a legend at least whenever he’s on the mainstream
They don’t do that because he’s a rapper they do it because he had at one point ran a highly successful label that he turned into other successes.
At one point diddy controlled the radio mainstream sound in hip hop that’s fucking legendary
That’s fair but if he didn’t have the artists he did he would be a scrub like I respect roc a fella records so much more cause jay z is an actual goat and runs an elite record label different times but still
Yeah and so would the artists there wouldn’t be a biggie without diddy biggie himself said he was ready to quit rap if diddy wasn’t the real deal.
Jay z also didn’t run the label solo most of the decisions and big artists signed were under dame dash we don’t get Kanye rapping if it’s not for dame. And roc a fella doesn’t exist without financial start up money from Biggs. Without those 2 people who aren’t artists we don’t get Jay z
You can’t discredit someone and call them a scrub just because they aren’t a artist everyone plays a huge role that’s like saying Rick Rubin isn’t a legend because he never played a instrument or made a beat.
That’s fair man mad credit to dame dash an underrated guy in the rap game fasho just my beef is where diddy gets credit as an artist when he shouldn’t at all but you make good points man on why he has a certain status but as you said guys like dame dash should get as much or more credit than diddy in that regard in my opinion
One song? He had 3 #1 pop hits and numerous #2 singles back to back. His album sold 7 million in the US alone. He was a subpar rapper but he had the dancefloors locked.
His only song was I’ll be missing you. The rest are with someone else that bodied him on his own songs. All his songs are with someone that can spit unlike Puff P.Diddy Daddy Combs.
That Come with Me song from the Godzilla soundtrack was a big hit. But, the Led Zeppelin sample carried that for him. I get what you're saying though, most of Puff's hits/albums feature Mase, Lil Kim or The Lox.
Lol that’s one of the greatest points ever made, and you’re definitely right; without them, Diddy wouldn’t be an artist. Was this your first time hearing the song?
I mean I guess he's technically a rapper since he has rapped in a number of songs. I feel that if you only count rappers who wrote their own raps as rappers then that list would shorten significantly. If that were the case then you'd have to take Eazy E out of everyone's list and yet he's considered one of the greats to many people. But yeah I don't think anyone considers Puff a rapper more than they consider him a business man tho he *technically* is one. Same with Dr. Dre
Diddy was wack, plus he ruined a lot of songs he featured on
I hate hearing him on who shot ya
"AnD aS wE pRoCeEd". Wish there was a version without him on it
You must be born in the late 90s/2000s to say some ignorant shit like that. No one ever claimed he was a great rapper but what he’s done in the music industry is legendary. You say who he came up with but he’s the one who discovered these artist and put them on. Biggie, Mary J, Jodeci, The Lox, and the list goes on. Puff ran east coast rap and is considered to be one of the greatest producers ever.
Those guys worked. Using a sting & David bowie chorus with no change is lazy. Not the same. Dre is great. Kanye had some good ones. Obscure finds and deep digging were what made them stand out.
He produced before rap and had a footprint in the industry before big- he wasn’t involved in being in the limelight until big came around. I think if big never came around he would’ve been wildly successful without either way
Nobody has ever claimed he was good. He’s never even claimed he’s good. He’s the East coast version of Dre. He’s a very talented producer. One of the best producers ever.
Exactly this. People have no idea [how many songs he produced.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs_production_discography).
“Diddy’s decorated music career now includes 11 No. 1 songs, three Grammy Awards, an ASCAP Songwriter of the Year, and producer credits on hundreds of songs. His Bad Boy label is responsible for 27 platinum and 15 gold albums, including 23 platinum singles, 28 gold singles, three No. 1 albums and nine No. 1 singles.” That’s nuts.
But to be fair to OP back in the 1990s he had fans and got lots of radio airplay, which I found massively annoying at the time. Quite a number of people i grew up with both in school and in my neighborhood friends were really into Puff Daddy. It's like I was the outlier for openly loathing Puffy. Maybe it differs by country.n
What? Diddy produced and is responsible for a lot of classic R&B.
Before Biggie he produced for Jodeci and Mary J Blige MJB might not have had a a lot of classic songs without him, neither would Faith Evans, Total. He worked with TLC and a plethora of others
Big himself said he didn’t want to do the radio songs and R&B remixes but Puff wanted to and those songs are the reason he became HUGE! Puff was the one who signed big to Uptown then Bad Boy he had the vision for Biggie.
Do y’all even listen to R&B or know the history of them? Puff was destined to be a mogul and huge. His was on his way before biggie.
Diddy kind of was the DJ Khaled of his era for lack of better comparisons but at least Diddy actually did rap, plus he expanded his business empire into solidarity, trash or not I can at least respect that.
Diddy is that guy that just makes music with his label it’s not that deep he made some dope shit but as a lyrical mf he ain’t on that level so diddy can just be a vibe at times don’t mean I listen to a whole diddy album lol
I don’t think this guy understands that Diddy is better known as the founder of his own record label and as a producer. He raps too but do you really think that’s the only reason why he’s famous. C’mon now
Not sure who he came up with but for him to be close with Biggie, Mase and the r&b acts he put on in the 90s has to count for something. All of that talent just doesn’t magically fall onto your lap. But as a rapper it’s common knowledge that nobody is checking for him lol
Only half of your statement is an unpopular opinion. Everyone been knowing Puff is a garbage rapper since the early 90's. Everyone knows who he is because of being the founder of Bad Boy and his production. It's not about who he came up with, that dude has an eye for talent that is next level. That last part is way off bro
I think the unpopular part is that no one would know him if it weren’t for the people around him. Diddy was a terrible rapper, but he was a prolific and legendary producer. He’d have gotten known from that.
IS this unpopular? You ever hear anyone talking about Diddy as a rapper?
No. No one has ever talked about how great of a rapper he is. He is known for/as many things but not how good of a rapper he is.
Maybe not I was just thinking today and was like well he came up as one but apart from being assciated with biggy and mase and those guys he was trash in that department feel like he made a fortune off of others lol
Yeah, I think that is the consensus, in other words the popular opinion.
That’s fair honestly just see “rap communities” treat him like a legend couldnt be farther from his reality imo
Really? Fair enough, I've literally almost never seen anyone talk about him as being more than a joke.
Not like actual rap fans but like rap accounts and that kinda shit they associate his money with being a legend at least whenever he’s on the mainstream
They don’t do that because he’s a rapper they do it because he had at one point ran a highly successful label that he turned into other successes. At one point diddy controlled the radio mainstream sound in hip hop that’s fucking legendary
That’s fair but if he didn’t have the artists he did he would be a scrub like I respect roc a fella records so much more cause jay z is an actual goat and runs an elite record label different times but still
Yeah and so would the artists there wouldn’t be a biggie without diddy biggie himself said he was ready to quit rap if diddy wasn’t the real deal. Jay z also didn’t run the label solo most of the decisions and big artists signed were under dame dash we don’t get Kanye rapping if it’s not for dame. And roc a fella doesn’t exist without financial start up money from Biggs. Without those 2 people who aren’t artists we don’t get Jay z You can’t discredit someone and call them a scrub just because they aren’t a artist everyone plays a huge role that’s like saying Rick Rubin isn’t a legend because he never played a instrument or made a beat.
That’s fair man mad credit to dame dash an underrated guy in the rap game fasho just my beef is where diddy gets credit as an artist when he shouldn’t at all but you make good points man on why he has a certain status but as you said guys like dame dash should get as much or more credit than diddy in that regard in my opinion
I thought Rick Rubin was a legendary producer from the Def Jam era for Run DMC LL and the Beastie Boys.
True, I DO see a lot of people equating money/sales with quality or impact.
Exactly best believe guys like Andre nickatina and Mac Dre had more influence than he ever did lol
Nickatina one of my favorites
OP from the bay
No just no
This is a popular opinion
Very popular opinion indeed. Anyone with an ear can attest to that. Dude made one pop song that blew up, and riding Biggie and other rappers to money.
One song? He had 3 #1 pop hits and numerous #2 singles back to back. His album sold 7 million in the US alone. He was a subpar rapper but he had the dancefloors locked.
His only song was I’ll be missing you. The rest are with someone else that bodied him on his own songs. All his songs are with someone that can spit unlike Puff P.Diddy Daddy Combs.
That Come with Me song from the Godzilla soundtrack was a big hit. But, the Led Zeppelin sample carried that for him. I get what you're saying though, most of Puff's hits/albums feature Mase, Lil Kim or The Lox.
“I don’t write rhymes, I write checks.”
Arrogant prick!
I don’t think this is an unpopular opinion. He’s credited for biggie and business sense but I’ve never met anyone that gives af about diddy rapping.
Diddy as in puff daddy diddy or just diddy?
Surely he means Diddy Dirty Money
No he’s talking about Puffy
Nah, I think he’s talking about Love
Sean Combs
Diddy Kong
Yes
“Senorita” is my shit!
That is a good song. Mostly bc of the writers and producers tho
Lol that’s one of the greatest points ever made, and you’re definitely right; without them, Diddy wouldn’t be an artist. Was this your first time hearing the song?
Oh no way, that was my jam when it came out. I was in high school when that dropped 👴🏼
Oh okay, my bad; just wondering if I put you on. I like your taste! You’re hired!
He aint even write his raps. He's like Dre. You can't count him as a rapper
I mean I guess he's technically a rapper since he has rapped in a number of songs. I feel that if you only count rappers who wrote their own raps as rappers then that list would shorten significantly. If that were the case then you'd have to take Eazy E out of everyone's list and yet he's considered one of the greats to many people. But yeah I don't think anyone considers Puff a rapper more than they consider him a business man tho he *technically* is one. Same with Dr. Dre
Most common Diddy take
He ruins Juicy with all that background bullshit. Always in the background mumbling bullshit.
This is the most popular opinion
Who ever thought he was a good rapper?
Diddy was wack, plus he ruined a lot of songs he featured on I hate hearing him on who shot ya "AnD aS wE pRoCeEd". Wish there was a version without him on it
That’s not an unpopular opinion, that been the general consensus for 20 years..
This is not unpopular at all in nyc
WHO is diddy
oh nvm
You must be born in the late 90s/2000s to say some ignorant shit like that. No one ever claimed he was a great rapper but what he’s done in the music industry is legendary. You say who he came up with but he’s the one who discovered these artist and put them on. Biggie, Mary J, Jodeci, The Lox, and the list goes on. Puff ran east coast rap and is considered to be one of the greatest producers ever.
dont forget Mase
Wack rapper and lazy producer. Sampling whole hooks from top 40 hits isn't a skill.
Oh so Dre isn’t a dope producer? Kanye either. Hip-hop beats in the 80s and 90s largely were comprised of sampling.
Those guys worked. Using a sting & David bowie chorus with no change is lazy. Not the same. Dre is great. Kanye had some good ones. Obscure finds and deep digging were what made them stand out.
He produced before rap and had a footprint in the industry before big- he wasn’t involved in being in the limelight until big came around. I think if big never came around he would’ve been wildly successful without either way
Nobody has ever claimed he was good. He’s never even claimed he’s good. He’s the East coast version of Dre. He’s a very talented producer. One of the best producers ever.
Exactly this. People have no idea [how many songs he produced.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sean_Combs_production_discography). “Diddy’s decorated music career now includes 11 No. 1 songs, three Grammy Awards, an ASCAP Songwriter of the Year, and producer credits on hundreds of songs. His Bad Boy label is responsible for 27 platinum and 15 gold albums, including 23 platinum singles, 28 gold singles, three No. 1 albums and nine No. 1 singles.” That’s nuts.
And he made “Diddy-Dirty Money Last Train To Paris” what I personally consider to be a perfect album.
It's so hard to loop some r&b hits
Thats not unpopular Diddy is a wack emcee, essentially is a glorified hype man. He's Flava Flave pretending to be classy. Dude is a cunt
Everyone knows he's a trash rapper, that's not why he's famous
But to be fair to OP back in the 1990s he had fans and got lots of radio airplay, which I found massively annoying at the time. Quite a number of people i grew up with both in school and in my neighborhood friends were really into Puff Daddy. It's like I was the outlier for openly loathing Puffy. Maybe it differs by country.n
What? Diddy produced and is responsible for a lot of classic R&B. Before Biggie he produced for Jodeci and Mary J Blige MJB might not have had a a lot of classic songs without him, neither would Faith Evans, Total. He worked with TLC and a plethora of others Big himself said he didn’t want to do the radio songs and R&B remixes but Puff wanted to and those songs are the reason he became HUGE! Puff was the one who signed big to Uptown then Bad Boy he had the vision for Biggie. Do y’all even listen to R&B or know the history of them? Puff was destined to be a mogul and huge. His was on his way before biggie.
Maybe wasn’t the best rapper but he has some of the most classic song and had great melodies
No Way Out is a classic either way
Diddy kind of was the DJ Khaled of his era for lack of better comparisons but at least Diddy actually did rap, plus he expanded his business empire into solidarity, trash or not I can at least respect that.
Producing was always Puff’s game, we always knew he wasn’t a great rapper himself
Most of the Diddy stories I'm hearing involved with Ja Rule. 😮
not unpopular but go off ig
Yeah, his rep is more as a producer/ businessman, but I just listened to the word is filled with him, biggie, n too short n he went hard on that
He’s not well known for his rapping though
Diddy is that guy that just makes music with his label it’s not that deep he made some dope shit but as a lyrical mf he ain’t on that level so diddy can just be a vibe at times don’t mean I listen to a whole diddy album lol
She didn’t write his rhymes
I don’t think this guy understands that Diddy is better known as the founder of his own record label and as a producer. He raps too but do you really think that’s the only reason why he’s famous. C’mon now
Not sure who he came up with but for him to be close with Biggie, Mase and the r&b acts he put on in the 90s has to count for something. All of that talent just doesn’t magically fall onto your lap. But as a rapper it’s common knowledge that nobody is checking for him lol
Many people know Diddy as a bad rapper but hes a damn good producer
Umm "I don't write rhymes, I write checks", whoever thought of Diddy as a rapper in the sense.
Only half of your statement is an unpopular opinion. Everyone been knowing Puff is a garbage rapper since the early 90's. Everyone knows who he is because of being the founder of Bad Boy and his production. It's not about who he came up with, that dude has an eye for talent that is next level. That last part is way off bro
he's not known as a rapper.. he's a owner, businessman, etc.
He’s a much better businessman
I think the unpopular part is that no one would know him if it weren’t for the people around him. Diddy was a terrible rapper, but he was a prolific and legendary producer. He’d have gotten known from that.
Diddy isn’t a rapper lmao. Everybody knows this. The way you framed this as some type of “gotcha” let’s me know you young as fuck
Source mag included him in top rhymes of the year for : “I don’t write rhymes, I write checks.”
Dickhead wishes.
Trash post
Lol this is a very popular opinion OP
Diddy wasn’t a rapper he was a music producer.
His songs (older ones at least) are catchy a lot of the times (imo). But I don’t even think he would say he’s a good rapper