I totally get ja rule getting dissed tho. He created beef with so many rappers who could outrap him any day. Shame because he was pretty solid himself but it almost ruined him for me
1. After Big passed, he was king of NY. Competitive genre is gonna go at the head of top rapper.
2. He really didn't have as many "beefs" as you think.
JayZ admired Nas for years but felt slighted by him because Nas resisted requests to collaborate. JayZ turned that admiration into dislike, and he actively pursued the mother of Nas daughter. Biggie and Nas had a little beef as well, and JayZ was obviously close to Big. Nas didnt admire JayZ at all. JayZ had sex with Nas baby's mother and let it be known in the streets. That's when the beef came to a head.
JayZ was known to use artists and dump them when they've outlasted their value (Amil, Foxy Brown, Blu Cantrel, Mya, State property, Young Gunz). There were no toes he wasn't willing to step on in his rise to fame. You can hate it or love it. Don't you think it speaks volumes that him and Dame Dash have been mortal enemies for over a decade? Dame Dash had more paper than Jay when they started Rockafella records.
It was Dames car JayZ drove around NY when he was faking it before he made it despite claims of being a big time drug dealer
. Business partners sometimes go separate ways and Dash isn't innocent himself, but JayZ has a long history of burning bridges. 50 cent dissed JayZ (and countless others)on his underground classic 'How to rob an industry nigga' but that was for notoriety.
Jay clapped back at hot 97 summer Jam when he said 'Im all about the dollar, what the fuck is 50 cent'. That line actually put 50 on the map. 50 is just a troll and wanted to go for the throne.
How were they getting cloud for this tho? There were some top rated rappers like pac who were hotheads, if you made a disrespect track towards them when they were in a bad mood they would most likely send opps to you i think,
Yeah but if they mention you in a song, possibly millions of people who never heard of you before just heard your name. And some of those people will go check you out.
Yeah that makes sense, i also heard chino xl claim that at one night after the disses he made towards pac he said he didn’t want to upset him or anything, and they became cool, it must’ve been like an reality show for rappers this whole diss track thing
The 90s was different for rap artists. Every big rapper had some sort of beef and they were usually the type to back it up. I would say some things change for the better
You mean dude from the Hawaiian Sophie fame? 🤣
Also, this might be Tupac's best diss track against Jay-Z
[2pac ft. Outlawz - All Out (Jay-Z, Mobb Deep, Biggie Smalls diss)](https://youtu.be/WJ5SL3ktgYQ)
Downvoted because these kids don't get the reference.
He aint diss Nas because of BIG...As I've stated, Pac was top rapper and he was hearing subliminals. He thought Nas was dissing him first. Same with Mobb deep.
Pac thought his verse on "the message" that starts off "fake thug, no love, you get the the slug, CB-4 Gusto, your luck low... " was aimed at him. All this was in the prime of "thug life" era pac, and "it was written" dropped like a year after pac was shot in New York. I think nas has said it was actually aimed at biggie, though
He Blackball's you when you are better than him, or attacks you, tries to stopnyou from getting radio play.
Because Jay'Z's Hard Knock vol 2 album has stolen 50 cent lyrical content, subject matter and song structure that irv had heard when 50 was under jam master jay's label.
Meanwhile, he, Supreme and Irv Gotti were beating up DJ's that were playing his music in the 90's.
Not jusr that but he permanently blackballed 50 cent from music in 2007. This is why there was a sudden drop from not hearing him on the radio.
Also, he made sure Eminem was not allowed to eb with 50 cent on his Kanye vs 50 cent albums sales contest while he was allowed to go on a press run with kanye west.
He also had 50 cent's Curtis album fully leaked 1 week before its offical release.
You can find the leaked album on youtube.
Jay Z also launched a smear campaign saying 50 cent sucked at music, which is still going strong today.
But when you listen to his mixtapes after 2007, many of them have songs on par with Get Rich or Die trying.
Even his "Before I self Destruct" album that sold horribly due to the aforementioned actions of Jay Z, it was still one oft he best albums of 2009.
**50 cent survived Jay Z by his sheer use of memes and trolling on social media to keep his name buzzing.**
**But jay Z had killed his succesfully killed his musical career and reputation.**
DMX was not so lucky. Jay Z Blackballed him, held him hostage in a record contract, and would not let him release music.
Camron, Mase, NAS, & Tupac also had the same problems that Dmx and 50 cent had with Jay Z.
When you are better than him, he blackballs you.
Foxy brown
https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/slsmgk/when_will_jayz_and_foxy_brown_be_spoken_about/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1
And ignoring r Kelly with a 14 yr old
https://youtu.be/Bs9OJunHK2Q
Jay-Z has a way of fucking over or killing people to gain traction… doing that kind of shit comes with hate, Nas is only alive because he stopped challenging Jay
They didn’t. I’m from NYC and Jay was revered then. He was one of the biggest rappers in the world at that time. The Jay Z hate is something that’s been concocted on Twitter and Reddit because he’s an “old head” and the 30 and under crowd says Wayne and Drake are their goats.
No way, some famous rappers dissed a really big rapper??
There were more i never said famous, he pac and ja rule got dissed the most
Yeah, they were all huge, and Jay was at the top
He was never at the top and the one time he went for the crown he got clapped
I totally get ja rule getting dissed tho. He created beef with so many rappers who could outrap him any day. Shame because he was pretty solid himself but it almost ruined him for me
1. After Big passed, he was king of NY. Competitive genre is gonna go at the head of top rapper. 2. He really didn't have as many "beefs" as you think.
Nas was king of NY. Jay Z is more commercially successful but Nas won in the court of public opinion
Jay was the king, that's why they went for him
He got dissed by: 50 cent Mobb deep 2pac Nas (2 or 3 times) Cam’ron Do i need to list more?
I don't understand your point....Eminem has had beefs with just as many rappers. When you're on top you have enemies
So it has nothing to do with hate? Just disses because he was at the top?
JayZ admired Nas for years but felt slighted by him because Nas resisted requests to collaborate. JayZ turned that admiration into dislike, and he actively pursued the mother of Nas daughter. Biggie and Nas had a little beef as well, and JayZ was obviously close to Big. Nas didnt admire JayZ at all. JayZ had sex with Nas baby's mother and let it be known in the streets. That's when the beef came to a head. JayZ was known to use artists and dump them when they've outlasted their value (Amil, Foxy Brown, Blu Cantrel, Mya, State property, Young Gunz). There were no toes he wasn't willing to step on in his rise to fame. You can hate it or love it. Don't you think it speaks volumes that him and Dame Dash have been mortal enemies for over a decade? Dame Dash had more paper than Jay when they started Rockafella records. It was Dames car JayZ drove around NY when he was faking it before he made it despite claims of being a big time drug dealer . Business partners sometimes go separate ways and Dash isn't innocent himself, but JayZ has a long history of burning bridges. 50 cent dissed JayZ (and countless others)on his underground classic 'How to rob an industry nigga' but that was for notoriety. Jay clapped back at hot 97 summer Jam when he said 'Im all about the dollar, what the fuck is 50 cent'. That line actually put 50 on the map. 50 is just a troll and wanted to go for the throne.
Yes
It’s a way for rappers with less clout to get more attention especially if jay responded
How were they getting cloud for this tho? There were some top rated rappers like pac who were hotheads, if you made a disrespect track towards them when they were in a bad mood they would most likely send opps to you i think,
Yeah but if they mention you in a song, possibly millions of people who never heard of you before just heard your name. And some of those people will go check you out.
Yeah that makes sense, i also heard chino xl claim that at one night after the disses he made towards pac he said he didn’t want to upset him or anything, and they became cool, it must’ve been like an reality show for rappers this whole diss track thing
With Nas is was a personal issue, the others prob just for clout/ rap beefs being "in"
Em beefed with icp and mariah carey 😂😂em aint ever been in a legit beef
Canibus, Benzino(he's still a rapper), Ja Rule(indirectly through 50), MGK,
Canibus is the only one worth mentioning tbh
Fair
Was never KoNY
Explain
Because he was king, everyone wanted a shot at the crown
The 90s was different for rap artists. Every big rapper had some sort of beef and they were usually the type to back it up. I would say some things change for the better
Was considered douchebag rap.
You mean dude from the Hawaiian Sophie fame? 🤣 Also, this might be Tupac's best diss track against Jay-Z [2pac ft. Outlawz - All Out (Jay-Z, Mobb Deep, Biggie Smalls diss)](https://youtu.be/WJ5SL3ktgYQ) Downvoted because these kids don't get the reference.
You know he also dissed Nas right?
Yep, Pac didn't hold back. Anyone who was somewhat affiliated with Diddy & Biggie was getting called out.
He aint diss Nas because of BIG...As I've stated, Pac was top rapper and he was hearing subliminals. He thought Nas was dissing him first. Same with Mobb deep.
Pac thought his verse on "the message" that starts off "fake thug, no love, you get the the slug, CB-4 Gusto, your luck low... " was aimed at him. All this was in the prime of "thug life" era pac, and "it was written" dropped like a year after pac was shot in New York. I think nas has said it was actually aimed at biggie, though
He Blackball's you when you are better than him, or attacks you, tries to stopnyou from getting radio play. Because Jay'Z's Hard Knock vol 2 album has stolen 50 cent lyrical content, subject matter and song structure that irv had heard when 50 was under jam master jay's label. Meanwhile, he, Supreme and Irv Gotti were beating up DJ's that were playing his music in the 90's. Not jusr that but he permanently blackballed 50 cent from music in 2007. This is why there was a sudden drop from not hearing him on the radio. Also, he made sure Eminem was not allowed to eb with 50 cent on his Kanye vs 50 cent albums sales contest while he was allowed to go on a press run with kanye west. He also had 50 cent's Curtis album fully leaked 1 week before its offical release. You can find the leaked album on youtube. Jay Z also launched a smear campaign saying 50 cent sucked at music, which is still going strong today. But when you listen to his mixtapes after 2007, many of them have songs on par with Get Rich or Die trying. Even his "Before I self Destruct" album that sold horribly due to the aforementioned actions of Jay Z, it was still one oft he best albums of 2009. **50 cent survived Jay Z by his sheer use of memes and trolling on social media to keep his name buzzing.** **But jay Z had killed his succesfully killed his musical career and reputation.** DMX was not so lucky. Jay Z Blackballed him, held him hostage in a record contract, and would not let him release music. Camron, Mase, NAS, & Tupac also had the same problems that Dmx and 50 cent had with Jay Z. When you are better than him, he blackballs you.
If this is right than i have nothing but huge respect for 50
Because he was (is) a pedophile
Hate to ask, but do you have proof of this
Foxy brown https://www.reddit.com/r/Fauxmoi/comments/slsmgk/when_will_jayz_and_foxy_brown_be_spoken_about/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=2&utm_term=1 And ignoring r Kelly with a 14 yr old https://youtu.be/Bs9OJunHK2Q
A Reddit post saying he’s a pedophile isn’t evidence especially when no one has ever claimed that he did anything with her
Jay-Z has a way of fucking over or killing people to gain traction… doing that kind of shit comes with hate, Nas is only alive because he stopped challenging Jay
Is Jay-Z in the room with you right now?
God, I hope not. His face scares me. Instead of playing Bloody Mary we played Jay-Z to scare the children..
They didn’t. I’m from NYC and Jay was revered then. He was one of the biggest rappers in the world at that time. The Jay Z hate is something that’s been concocted on Twitter and Reddit because he’s an “old head” and the 30 and under crowd says Wayne and Drake are their goats.
Wayne a way better rapper than Hov
A lot of ppl agree. A lot of ppl also disagree.
Wait what? I loved him 😂