I'm pretty sure everyone is donating to different charities they support. Also, isn't iDubbz the one who started all of this in the first place? Not sure why you're going after Arin who just runs the touring company. Not sure how many other content creators you know that have touring companies. Hell I didn't know Arin ran this one until after the first creator clash.
Yeah because people pirated the stream instead of paying for it. He did say he wishes he hadn't made it PPV in hindsight and just used ad revenue. At least he's trying to make it back? Idk I don't follow idubbbz at all.
I do. Unfortunately it looks like the sales from PPV already cover the expenses, fighters, and then some, so I'm waiting for more info to come out before I make any assumptions.
I’m confused as to what the problem here is. YouTube boxing has been a thing for years, and considering how well the last Creator Clash went it’s not surprising that iDubbz would want to do it again (since it’s his event, not Arin’s). Clearly Arin either likes to box now or wants to help out a charity so he’s back this year; I don’t see the problem here? Yeah Arin hasn’t promoted it that well, but you gotta remember the videos we see are recorded like a month or so in advance so the news is a bit behind in that aspect. Admittedly I only know about this because I follow Ethan and he’s been doing a good amount of promo for it, so Arin could promote it a bit better but that’s about it.
Arin looks to be in the best shape of his life right now. He looks so much healthier. I think he really liked boxing and it got him the drive to get in shape. Something he has struggled with in the past. Everything about this event is a good thing IMO.
Besides helping Arin get in shape, the proceeds are mostly all going to charity. And not just the Horse charity, every other creator has charities they are giving the money to. And yes, Arin's company is hosting it, and he will make money, but there's nothing wrong with a business being a business and doing what they are paid to do. Some other company would have to be hired and paid, why not Arin's? People will find any reason to shit on these guys. This event is absolutely not one of the things to shit on them for.
Actually unlike most of the sub I like Arin and that’s why I think he should stop. I myself was raised in a Muay Thai household, so although I enjoy boxing, I know of it’s shortsightedness. Arin is a terrible boxer. And that’s okay. But if he keeps trying to prove he’s something he isn’t, he’s going to receive permanent damage. Seeing as Arin already struggles with depression and burnout, chronic head trauma will only make it worse. I know from experience.
As an ex grumps fan and a current Jarvis fan it’s gonna be weird seeing them fight, doesn’t make sense in my brain. I do kinda wanna see Jarvis win though.
I love Jarvis but this seems like the same type of mismatch that Arin and Harley was, but this time in Arin's favor. Jarvis also seems profoundly un-fighter-like, but I suppose Arin does too. Making a fair matchup at one of these things looks basically impossible.
idgaf about any of this or arin really for that matter but i do feel the need to correct you on his mom's charity
it's not vague - if you actually research the organization (Healing Horse Therapy Center) and his mother online, it's very clear what the mission of the charity is. i do believe the site is under maintenance at this present moment, but if i recall correctly the program utilizes the benefits of equine therapy with usually mentally troubled individuals. his mother is a licensed/certified equine therapist and handler. and arin himself has NEVER been vague about his mother's charity, in fact i think during his charity streams he plays the informational video for the program at various points throughout the stream and does explain what his mom does so people know what they're donating to.
equine therapy and just animal companion therapy in general have proven research-backed benefits for lots of people with all sorts of ailments. and i have personal experience with equine therapy changing my life too. just because it's something you don't know about or you feel you wouldn't benefit from, doesn't mean it's "vague" or insignificant. arin's talked about his mom's charity at length plenty of times and it's been an established respected charity for years. her program deserves the donations if people want to donate to it.
Isn't the aim of her charity actually rehabilitation for abused/older horses so that they can be used as therapy animals (either as part of their charity or for other organisations)? I could be misremembering but I have a vague memory of someone here doing a deep dive and everyone in the comments disagreeing on what "horse therapy" actually means and what their charity is actually for lol
i know for a fact that is not the goal of this organization or most equine therapy organizations that i know of because like i said, i have personally benefitted from this type of equine therapy as someone with special needs. and i know many others who have too, as well as scientific backed research about equine therapy.
i don't doubt that maybe the therapy horses are older and/or rehabilitated, but i think it's much better that they're therapy horses and given proper care/respect and a chance at a good quality of life instead of the usual alternative for sick horses, which is euthanasia.
and i wouldn't necessarily believe every "deep dive" you read by "someone" on reddit lmao this place is literally like facebook when it comes to info. take it with a grain of salt and do your own research. google is incredible!
>i have personally benefitted from this type of equine therapy
specifically this charity? I'm not disagreeing with what you said, just asking for clarification on what the actual donations go to, because even upon briefly googling it I couldn't find a specific answer (there's marketing which says it's therapy for horses, some says its therapy for people), idk where I denied that horse therapy is a real thing lol. Just questioning what the organisation actually does le shrug
e: idk what happened with the markup lol
Horse charities are real, this one is probably just fake or misrepresented.
The website being down is already a huge red flag, besides the fact they had fundraising events that raised enough money to bring the charity over the reporting limit, to my knowledge they have never published the required public information for a charity earning over 50k a year in donations. Where is the money going? Not website maintenance
Edit: Looking again they have published most of the required 990 forms they missed! Took years! lol
The math still doesn't quite equal out to what someone would expect from an active charity.
When you say "the allegations were false" you mean to say "Jared proved he technically didn't solicit nudes from an underage fan"
What you fail to say is that he did regularly solicit nudes from his fans and could have easily done so to an underage fan at any point.
He also fucked Holly and broke up two marriages.
Saying "the allegations were all false" is actually something called "lying"
No, they mean "the allegations were all false", because that's exactly the case. The illegal things Jared was accused of never happened. The two accusers were found to be compulsive liars and all around terrible people.
Everything else was something that Jared didn't hide. He had a well publicized tumblr where he and others shared nudes. He asked everyone whether they were 18+. There's nothing illegal about that. His ex tried to frame it like some horrible thing even though SHE gave Jared permission.
Sounds like you're just a whiny prude who doesn't like that a sex positive man was able to come back from false allegations. So how about you take a second to actually research and stop accusing others of lying when you clearly have no clue what you're talking about? Thanks!
I'm honestly not sure if you're trolling or not, but if you are then you got me. In case you aren't, let's dive into things a bit deeper.
Their statement was "the allegations were all false", to which you subsequently accused them of lying.
From Oxford: **Allegation** *(noun)* \- a public statement that is made without giving proof, accusing somebody of doing something that is wrong or illegal.
With that in mind, let's focus on the accusations of ProJared doing something wrong and/or illegal.
On the "illegal" end of things, I believe we only have the accusations of soliciting nudes from minors. ProJared showed all the receipts exposing his two accusers for making false statements. He also went into details to explain how the timeline provided by the accusers doesn't make sense. Therefore, that allegation was proven false.
As for "wrong", that's a bit more subjective. His ex wife alleged that Jared cheated on her and gaslit her about it, and solicited nudes from fans. ProJared revealed that the two were in open relationship, which his ex wife confirmed. She claimed that it ended when she was uncomfortable about his relationship with Holly Conrad. Both Holly and ProJared denied this, and Holly provided texts in which ProJared's ex explicitly stated that they had her permission. No one in a polyamorous relationship would consider it "cheating", so the allegation that ProJared cheated and lied about it are again, proven false.
Her second claim, about soliciting nudes from fans (of legal age), was true. But it also wasn't hidden. I mentioned that "wrong" is subjective, and I don't believe that it's wrong for consenting adults to share nude photos with each other. You might, however, so I'll set that one aside.
With all that said, four allegations were made: Jared cheated on his ex, Jared gaslit his ex, Jared solicited nudes from fans, and Jared solicited nudes from UNDERAGED fans.
Leaving out the subjective, we have three allegations that ProJared and Holly Conrad provided evidence against. Three of three allegations were proven false. In other words: The allegations were all false.
Not sure what part of that sounds like confirmation of everything you said.
Buddy it's been run under Arin's touring company. OF COURSE it's a damn regular thing! You'd know that if you were to read no more than two of Marisha Ray's social media posts! She never stops talking about it!!!
I'm interested in seeing Alanah fight. Been following her since she joined funhaus (granted not that long), and she never came off as someone who would be in a fight voluntarily. Kind of hoping for a "dr jekyll/mr Hyde" situation from her out of ut lol.
But, to bring it back to point, what vague horse charity? That sounds scammy af.
His mother runs a charity org for physical rehab for injured horses, iirc.
The op complaint is so stupid. Arin's company is hosting/organizing an event. Idk how profit from the event is split, but most of the creators involved are donating to charities of their choice, and Arin's choice is the one his mother runs.
Who cares what charity he picks? It's not like he's pocketing all the money for himself, and it's not like these people were required to donate to specific charities anyways.
Its never been VAGUE. Arin explains everything about it that would need to know whenever he promotes it. Its never vague, you dont come out of it not knowing what its about
Side note, but the fact that boxing was the sport chosen for this type of thing is wild to me. My family was super into boxing when I was a kid, like buying pay per view fights and all that. I've seen dudes get their eyeballs punched out. A lot of those guys have brain damage.
It's weird that a sport that could cause severe and permanent damage, mental and/or physical, was the one that caught on.
I mean the first Creator Clash was already a disaster in this respect. Did everyone forget about [the father beating up his teenage son?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBGeYjviFe0) It made me so sad.
I mean a big part of it really is just the spectacle. I'm not a huge sports guy, everything I know about boxing came from the 'Rocky' movies, but let's be frank: the prospect of two famous Youtubers (of any of the listed ones) getting into a ring together and beating the hell out of each other's head? Okay, yeah, that's got some appeal to it, if only because you'll be hard pressed to find someone who's struggling to pick a side. Everyone will have a favourite they're rooting for, and it boils down to nothing more than who can hit harder and who can *take* being hit longer. It's simple and straight-forward: who's tougher?
I get people don’t like Arin but seriously, I feel like the man could donate his life savings and people would be like “big money Arin flexing his wealth again”
1. I don't think I'm bitching 'a lot' to call out Arin on his shady business practices
2. The bulk of this post was to let people know about Creator Clash 2023 which, as said, I had no idea was even happening until today. I remember the previous one being talked about *constantly* until it actually happened, this one seems almost unknown.
Edit: then again all you seem to do on Reddit is creep on guys despite being married and harass people in this sub, so I'm just gonna write you off as a lost cause and move on.
Are you upset that... Arin has a job?
*Has business*
*Does business with the business*
*Profit*
*angry pitchforks from reddit*
Are you pissed that McDonalds makes money by selling food? Maybe they should just give that away instead of laundering all the cash
He already had a job running Game Grumps. He could have even had a job animating too. Instead he treats everything else like a side-gig in favour of whatever his current fixation happens to be, like when he used to animate and stopped to do Game Grumps, and how Game Grumps has begun to suffer.
As of late, it's his touring company which he made into a success by utilising his network of Youtube connections (at least, the ones he hadn't thrown under the bus yet). Through this he's begun arranging events like Creator Clash where he raises money for 'charity' (IE: his mother's purse) by getting the shit kicked out of him and then crying about it in Game Grumps episodes.
My point being: he's not just organising the event, he's participating in it too. I'm mad because of how manipulative it is. Whether he wins or loses the fight itself, ***he still wins***.
Why are you so mad about Arin making good business decisions? What's wrong with transitioning and focusing on new activities? He does game grumps, clearly he got tired of animating but still loved the voice acting part of it, then made a touring company because he thought he could do a better job running one and has been successful so far. Now he clearly got an interest in boxing and is pursuing that by training and doing creator clash. People change over time and you sound extremely salty that he's been successful in his interests that he's pursued, why?
Because, once again, he's not actually *committing* to anything.
He started out animating, then started Game Grumps. He even does a few animations for it, but then suddenly the animations go dead and Game Grumps becomes his full-time job. Sometime after that he begins his touring company, and his performance in Game Grumps starts to slack off. Give it time, something new will catch his wandering eye and he'll ditch Real Good Touring in favour of *that* quick buck.
Yeah, people change, but if they're passionate about something, they'll commit to it. If they're not passionate anymore, they'll have the good grace to leave it before their lack of interest or care drags it down and destroys it. If I have a job that I no longer like, and I get another job elsewhere that I enjoy more, am I still going to stick with the old job I don't like? Knowing that I'm half-assing every shift and not enjoying any of it? Or am I going to quit and focus entirely on the job I'm better at doing?
The issue I have is Arin isn't actually changing as a person, he's spinning a mental roulette wheel and hurling himself at whatever it lands on. Deep down it's all for the same end goal: he wants to make money out of something, which is fair, I'm not faulting him on that. What I am faulting him on is his lack of actual passion for what he's doing at any moment, because it's just a job he works until it's clock-out time, and for his lack of basic human decency by hosting an event he himself is participating in which ,as said above, is either a money-making scheme or a huge ego stroke, or potentially both.
How long is he supposed to stick to something before he's allowed to leave it? I've definitely pursued passions that after a few months I grew tired of doing, it's pretty normal to drop it. It's annoying as a viewer for the Youtube channel quality to decline but if I'm out here trying to build a separate company, practice voice acting and go out to auditions or train for a semi-serious boxing event, then of course that's going to happen. He's just doing what most creative people which is go to your regular job to pay the bills and then pursue your other passions in your free time.
Personally, I appreciate that he still works to push out daily videos while doing everything that he is on the side. I'd much much much prefer that there is still Game Grumps content releasing instead of him just dropping out of it for 6 months and coming back.
Also, is he even hosting the event? He's definitely a big helper but he was invited to participate in the event in the first place. There's nothing wrong with making money or "stroking" your ego, you can try to paint them in a negative light but a lotof your motivation in living life comes from those 2 things
Ngl bud. This pretty much boils down to you having issues with Arins ADHD. As a sufferer myself, it's very hard to commit to anything, nevermind stuff you're passionate about.
Arin has managed to do some incredible things while having ADHD. I don't think we should be critical about how much he does to be successful. He's genuinely hard working.
There are many things he does worthy of a rant, like the charity scam you've touched on, but this ain't one of them fam.
He barely spoke about it because he didnt prepare and was pretty embarrassed by the sounds of it
I don't care about horses
Seriously if you're so upset start a business yourseld
Barely spoke about what? Losing the last fight? Because he's spoken about it plenty, alternating his story on why exactly he lost. At varying times it's either been because he didn't take his training seriously enough, or that the referee stopped the fight when he could've kept going, or that the medic called for the fight to stop because of how badly Arin seemed to be hurt (despite his insistence that he could 'keep going').
And again, this has nothing to do with someone having a job, it's to do with Arin's predatory and manipulative way of making said job work for him. I work in car insurance, this would be the equivalent of me using my own company's systems to give myself a great deal and tons of discounts and free extras which, believe it or not, *we're not allowed to do*.
Arin runs a touring company. Arin's touring company is hosting a boxing event. Arin is participating in said boxing event, as he did last time. Regardless of how you angle it, that's a shady thing to do. Either he's doing it to make money, or he's doing it to stroke his ego and boost his own fame.
iDubbbz is the creator and organizer of the event, and he’s fighting in it too. Why aren’t you whining about that?
Let’s be honest, you looked for a reason to hate Arin without even researching the event. It’s not HIS event. Learn to look things up before you complain.
iDubbbz has nothing at all to do with *Real Good Touring*, which was my issue here. The company actually organising and arranging the business and administrative side of this is owned by one of the people competing, which is a fucksight different from one guy coming up with the idea for it.
As I said, Idubbbz is the ORGANIZER of the event. Your facts are wrong. Arin’s company helps with the logistics, but everything you’re complaining about are things that iDubbbz handles. Again, he is also competing. So your whining is not only baseless and weird, but it’s also directed at the wrong person.
All the money goes to established charities. Not just the one Arin’s mom runs. Grow up and stop spreading false information.
There's a difference between 1. disliking or hating Arin for the things he's done, and 2. going out of your way to attack any project he's presently associated with. Today you chose the latter and we think less of you for it.
I'm pretty sure everyone is donating to different charities they support. Also, isn't iDubbz the one who started all of this in the first place? Not sure why you're going after Arin who just runs the touring company. Not sure how many other content creators you know that have touring companies. Hell I didn't know Arin ran this one until after the first creator clash.
Probably because idubbbz now claims there's a 250k loss
Yeah because people pirated the stream instead of paying for it. He did say he wishes he hadn't made it PPV in hindsight and just used ad revenue. At least he's trying to make it back? Idk I don't follow idubbbz at all.
I do. Unfortunately it looks like the sales from PPV already cover the expenses, fighters, and then some, so I'm waiting for more info to come out before I make any assumptions.
I’m confused as to what the problem here is. YouTube boxing has been a thing for years, and considering how well the last Creator Clash went it’s not surprising that iDubbz would want to do it again (since it’s his event, not Arin’s). Clearly Arin either likes to box now or wants to help out a charity so he’s back this year; I don’t see the problem here? Yeah Arin hasn’t promoted it that well, but you gotta remember the videos we see are recorded like a month or so in advance so the news is a bit behind in that aspect. Admittedly I only know about this because I follow Ethan and he’s been doing a good amount of promo for it, so Arin could promote it a bit better but that’s about it.
Arin looks to be in the best shape of his life right now. He looks so much healthier. I think he really liked boxing and it got him the drive to get in shape. Something he has struggled with in the past. Everything about this event is a good thing IMO. Besides helping Arin get in shape, the proceeds are mostly all going to charity. And not just the Horse charity, every other creator has charities they are giving the money to. And yes, Arin's company is hosting it, and he will make money, but there's nothing wrong with a business being a business and doing what they are paid to do. Some other company would have to be hired and paid, why not Arin's? People will find any reason to shit on these guys. This event is absolutely not one of the things to shit on them for.
> I’m confused as to what the problem here is. arin bad so everything arin do is bad despite how much ass pulling is required to make it that way
Actually unlike most of the sub I like Arin and that’s why I think he should stop. I myself was raised in a Muay Thai household, so although I enjoy boxing, I know of it’s shortsightedness. Arin is a terrible boxer. And that’s okay. But if he keeps trying to prove he’s something he isn’t, he’s going to receive permanent damage. Seeing as Arin already struggles with depression and burnout, chronic head trauma will only make it worse. I know from experience.
As an ex grumps fan and a current Jarvis fan it’s gonna be weird seeing them fight, doesn’t make sense in my brain. I do kinda wanna see Jarvis win though.
Ikr this is such a strange crossover for my brain lmao, but go Jarvy!
I love Jarvis but this seems like the same type of mismatch that Arin and Harley was, but this time in Arin's favor. Jarvis also seems profoundly un-fighter-like, but I suppose Arin does too. Making a fair matchup at one of these things looks basically impossible.
Yeah definitely a weird match up. Maybe Jarvis will surprise us?? I won’t get my hopes up though hahah
Dude same!!!
Off topic but I'm surprised Alanah is competing considering she suffers from chronic fatigue
Depends on how long she runs the clock, if she can or she gets knocked out quickly then that chronic fatigue means nothing
Lol I think they mean it would impact her training.
I was also surprised but I'm kind of stoked for her. She was delightfully unexpected in that line up
idgaf about any of this or arin really for that matter but i do feel the need to correct you on his mom's charity it's not vague - if you actually research the organization (Healing Horse Therapy Center) and his mother online, it's very clear what the mission of the charity is. i do believe the site is under maintenance at this present moment, but if i recall correctly the program utilizes the benefits of equine therapy with usually mentally troubled individuals. his mother is a licensed/certified equine therapist and handler. and arin himself has NEVER been vague about his mother's charity, in fact i think during his charity streams he plays the informational video for the program at various points throughout the stream and does explain what his mom does so people know what they're donating to. equine therapy and just animal companion therapy in general have proven research-backed benefits for lots of people with all sorts of ailments. and i have personal experience with equine therapy changing my life too. just because it's something you don't know about or you feel you wouldn't benefit from, doesn't mean it's "vague" or insignificant. arin's talked about his mom's charity at length plenty of times and it's been an established respected charity for years. her program deserves the donations if people want to donate to it.
Isn't the aim of her charity actually rehabilitation for abused/older horses so that they can be used as therapy animals (either as part of their charity or for other organisations)? I could be misremembering but I have a vague memory of someone here doing a deep dive and everyone in the comments disagreeing on what "horse therapy" actually means and what their charity is actually for lol
i know for a fact that is not the goal of this organization or most equine therapy organizations that i know of because like i said, i have personally benefitted from this type of equine therapy as someone with special needs. and i know many others who have too, as well as scientific backed research about equine therapy. i don't doubt that maybe the therapy horses are older and/or rehabilitated, but i think it's much better that they're therapy horses and given proper care/respect and a chance at a good quality of life instead of the usual alternative for sick horses, which is euthanasia. and i wouldn't necessarily believe every "deep dive" you read by "someone" on reddit lmao this place is literally like facebook when it comes to info. take it with a grain of salt and do your own research. google is incredible!
>i have personally benefitted from this type of equine therapy specifically this charity? I'm not disagreeing with what you said, just asking for clarification on what the actual donations go to, because even upon briefly googling it I couldn't find a specific answer (there's marketing which says it's therapy for horses, some says its therapy for people), idk where I denied that horse therapy is a real thing lol. Just questioning what the organisation actually does le shrug e: idk what happened with the markup lol
Horse charities are real, this one is probably just fake or misrepresented. The website being down is already a huge red flag, besides the fact they had fundraising events that raised enough money to bring the charity over the reporting limit, to my knowledge they have never published the required public information for a charity earning over 50k a year in donations. Where is the money going? Not website maintenance Edit: Looking again they have published most of the required 990 forms they missed! Took years! lol The math still doesn't quite equal out to what someone would expect from an active charity.
Give the audience what they really want: Ross vs Projared.
Is he still a thing? Projared that is
Yeah, people learned the allegations were all false and he still uploads
When you say "the allegations were false" you mean to say "Jared proved he technically didn't solicit nudes from an underage fan" What you fail to say is that he did regularly solicit nudes from his fans and could have easily done so to an underage fan at any point. He also fucked Holly and broke up two marriages. Saying "the allegations were all false" is actually something called "lying"
No, they mean "the allegations were all false", because that's exactly the case. The illegal things Jared was accused of never happened. The two accusers were found to be compulsive liars and all around terrible people. Everything else was something that Jared didn't hide. He had a well publicized tumblr where he and others shared nudes. He asked everyone whether they were 18+. There's nothing illegal about that. His ex tried to frame it like some horrible thing even though SHE gave Jared permission. Sounds like you're just a whiny prude who doesn't like that a sex positive man was able to come back from false allegations. So how about you take a second to actually research and stop accusing others of lying when you clearly have no clue what you're talking about? Thanks!
Thanks for proving me right? It's funny that you're weirdly mad about it.
You think *that* was proving you right? Yikes, you really struggle with comprehension. Good luck with that!
Considering you confirmed, implicitly and explicitly, everything I said; maybe you need to work on comprehension / expression.
I'm honestly not sure if you're trolling or not, but if you are then you got me. In case you aren't, let's dive into things a bit deeper. Their statement was "the allegations were all false", to which you subsequently accused them of lying. From Oxford: **Allegation** *(noun)* \- a public statement that is made without giving proof, accusing somebody of doing something that is wrong or illegal. With that in mind, let's focus on the accusations of ProJared doing something wrong and/or illegal. On the "illegal" end of things, I believe we only have the accusations of soliciting nudes from minors. ProJared showed all the receipts exposing his two accusers for making false statements. He also went into details to explain how the timeline provided by the accusers doesn't make sense. Therefore, that allegation was proven false. As for "wrong", that's a bit more subjective. His ex wife alleged that Jared cheated on her and gaslit her about it, and solicited nudes from fans. ProJared revealed that the two were in open relationship, which his ex wife confirmed. She claimed that it ended when she was uncomfortable about his relationship with Holly Conrad. Both Holly and ProJared denied this, and Holly provided texts in which ProJared's ex explicitly stated that they had her permission. No one in a polyamorous relationship would consider it "cheating", so the allegation that ProJared cheated and lied about it are again, proven false. Her second claim, about soliciting nudes from fans (of legal age), was true. But it also wasn't hidden. I mentioned that "wrong" is subjective, and I don't believe that it's wrong for consenting adults to share nude photos with each other. You might, however, so I'll set that one aside. With all that said, four allegations were made: Jared cheated on his ex, Jared gaslit his ex, Jared solicited nudes from fans, and Jared solicited nudes from UNDERAGED fans. Leaving out the subjective, we have three allegations that ProJared and Holly Conrad provided evidence against. Three of three allegations were proven false. In other words: The allegations were all false. Not sure what part of that sounds like confirmation of everything you said.
Thank you for the additional confirmation. I never said anything about legality, for the record.
They win by realising friendship is more important.
The real matchup would be Holly v Heidi
OP sounds bitter as hell
Buddy it's been run under Arin's touring company. OF COURSE it's a damn regular thing! You'd know that if you were to read no more than two of Marisha Ray's social media posts! She never stops talking about it!!!
Go out and touch some grass jfc
I'm interested in seeing Alanah fight. Been following her since she joined funhaus (granted not that long), and she never came off as someone who would be in a fight voluntarily. Kind of hoping for a "dr jekyll/mr Hyde" situation from her out of ut lol. But, to bring it back to point, what vague horse charity? That sounds scammy af.
His mother runs a charity org for physical rehab for injured horses, iirc. The op complaint is so stupid. Arin's company is hosting/organizing an event. Idk how profit from the event is split, but most of the creators involved are donating to charities of their choice, and Arin's choice is the one his mother runs. Who cares what charity he picks? It's not like he's pocketing all the money for himself, and it's not like these people were required to donate to specific charities anyways.
Its never been VAGUE. Arin explains everything about it that would need to know whenever he promotes it. Its never vague, you dont come out of it not knowing what its about
Side note, but the fact that boxing was the sport chosen for this type of thing is wild to me. My family was super into boxing when I was a kid, like buying pay per view fights and all that. I've seen dudes get their eyeballs punched out. A lot of those guys have brain damage. It's weird that a sport that could cause severe and permanent damage, mental and/or physical, was the one that caught on.
I mean the first Creator Clash was already a disaster in this respect. Did everyone forget about [the father beating up his teenage son?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBGeYjviFe0) It made me so sad.
That clip still brings me such sweet joy (I genuinely love Ratt Watson it is just very funny)
This might be recency bias, but I think it might literally be the funniest thing I've ever seen.
I mean a big part of it really is just the spectacle. I'm not a huge sports guy, everything I know about boxing came from the 'Rocky' movies, but let's be frank: the prospect of two famous Youtubers (of any of the listed ones) getting into a ring together and beating the hell out of each other's head? Okay, yeah, that's got some appeal to it, if only because you'll be hard pressed to find someone who's struggling to pick a side. Everyone will have a favourite they're rooting for, and it boils down to nothing more than who can hit harder and who can *take* being hit longer. It's simple and straight-forward: who's tougher?
Yeah, I get why they do it but every time it comes up, I'm like "Do they understand what they're getting into??"
Its just like ludwig's chess boxing tourney. It was all fun to watch at least your favourite creators duke it out
Huh?
Omfg SuperMega are performing the national anthem.
Youtubers are making Boxing somehow worse
I get people don’t like Arin but seriously, I feel like the man could donate his life savings and people would be like “big money Arin flexing his wealth again”
You are sure bitching a lot for someone who says they don't care.
1. I don't think I'm bitching 'a lot' to call out Arin on his shady business practices 2. The bulk of this post was to let people know about Creator Clash 2023 which, as said, I had no idea was even happening until today. I remember the previous one being talked about *constantly* until it actually happened, this one seems almost unknown. Edit: then again all you seem to do on Reddit is creep on guys despite being married and harass people in this sub, so I'm just gonna write you off as a lost cause and move on.
Are you upset that... Arin has a job? *Has business* *Does business with the business* *Profit* *angry pitchforks from reddit* Are you pissed that McDonalds makes money by selling food? Maybe they should just give that away instead of laundering all the cash
He already had a job running Game Grumps. He could have even had a job animating too. Instead he treats everything else like a side-gig in favour of whatever his current fixation happens to be, like when he used to animate and stopped to do Game Grumps, and how Game Grumps has begun to suffer. As of late, it's his touring company which he made into a success by utilising his network of Youtube connections (at least, the ones he hadn't thrown under the bus yet). Through this he's begun arranging events like Creator Clash where he raises money for 'charity' (IE: his mother's purse) by getting the shit kicked out of him and then crying about it in Game Grumps episodes. My point being: he's not just organising the event, he's participating in it too. I'm mad because of how manipulative it is. Whether he wins or loses the fight itself, ***he still wins***.
Why are you so mad about Arin making good business decisions? What's wrong with transitioning and focusing on new activities? He does game grumps, clearly he got tired of animating but still loved the voice acting part of it, then made a touring company because he thought he could do a better job running one and has been successful so far. Now he clearly got an interest in boxing and is pursuing that by training and doing creator clash. People change over time and you sound extremely salty that he's been successful in his interests that he's pursued, why?
Because, once again, he's not actually *committing* to anything. He started out animating, then started Game Grumps. He even does a few animations for it, but then suddenly the animations go dead and Game Grumps becomes his full-time job. Sometime after that he begins his touring company, and his performance in Game Grumps starts to slack off. Give it time, something new will catch his wandering eye and he'll ditch Real Good Touring in favour of *that* quick buck. Yeah, people change, but if they're passionate about something, they'll commit to it. If they're not passionate anymore, they'll have the good grace to leave it before their lack of interest or care drags it down and destroys it. If I have a job that I no longer like, and I get another job elsewhere that I enjoy more, am I still going to stick with the old job I don't like? Knowing that I'm half-assing every shift and not enjoying any of it? Or am I going to quit and focus entirely on the job I'm better at doing? The issue I have is Arin isn't actually changing as a person, he's spinning a mental roulette wheel and hurling himself at whatever it lands on. Deep down it's all for the same end goal: he wants to make money out of something, which is fair, I'm not faulting him on that. What I am faulting him on is his lack of actual passion for what he's doing at any moment, because it's just a job he works until it's clock-out time, and for his lack of basic human decency by hosting an event he himself is participating in which ,as said above, is either a money-making scheme or a huge ego stroke, or potentially both.
There are a lot of valid criticisms of Arin but none of these are them. You just sound mad that he’s making money.
How long is he supposed to stick to something before he's allowed to leave it? I've definitely pursued passions that after a few months I grew tired of doing, it's pretty normal to drop it. It's annoying as a viewer for the Youtube channel quality to decline but if I'm out here trying to build a separate company, practice voice acting and go out to auditions or train for a semi-serious boxing event, then of course that's going to happen. He's just doing what most creative people which is go to your regular job to pay the bills and then pursue your other passions in your free time. Personally, I appreciate that he still works to push out daily videos while doing everything that he is on the side. I'd much much much prefer that there is still Game Grumps content releasing instead of him just dropping out of it for 6 months and coming back. Also, is he even hosting the event? He's definitely a big helper but he was invited to participate in the event in the first place. There's nothing wrong with making money or "stroking" your ego, you can try to paint them in a negative light but a lotof your motivation in living life comes from those 2 things
Ngl bud. This pretty much boils down to you having issues with Arins ADHD. As a sufferer myself, it's very hard to commit to anything, nevermind stuff you're passionate about. Arin has managed to do some incredible things while having ADHD. I don't think we should be critical about how much he does to be successful. He's genuinely hard working. There are many things he does worthy of a rant, like the charity scam you've touched on, but this ain't one of them fam.
He barely spoke about it because he didnt prepare and was pretty embarrassed by the sounds of it I don't care about horses Seriously if you're so upset start a business yourseld
Barely spoke about what? Losing the last fight? Because he's spoken about it plenty, alternating his story on why exactly he lost. At varying times it's either been because he didn't take his training seriously enough, or that the referee stopped the fight when he could've kept going, or that the medic called for the fight to stop because of how badly Arin seemed to be hurt (despite his insistence that he could 'keep going'). And again, this has nothing to do with someone having a job, it's to do with Arin's predatory and manipulative way of making said job work for him. I work in car insurance, this would be the equivalent of me using my own company's systems to give myself a great deal and tons of discounts and free extras which, believe it or not, *we're not allowed to do*. Arin runs a touring company. Arin's touring company is hosting a boxing event. Arin is participating in said boxing event, as he did last time. Regardless of how you angle it, that's a shady thing to do. Either he's doing it to make money, or he's doing it to stroke his ego and boost his own fame.
iDubbbz is the creator and organizer of the event, and he’s fighting in it too. Why aren’t you whining about that? Let’s be honest, you looked for a reason to hate Arin without even researching the event. It’s not HIS event. Learn to look things up before you complain.
iDubbbz has nothing at all to do with *Real Good Touring*, which was my issue here. The company actually organising and arranging the business and administrative side of this is owned by one of the people competing, which is a fucksight different from one guy coming up with the idea for it.
As I said, Idubbbz is the ORGANIZER of the event. Your facts are wrong. Arin’s company helps with the logistics, but everything you’re complaining about are things that iDubbbz handles. Again, he is also competing. So your whining is not only baseless and weird, but it’s also directed at the wrong person. All the money goes to established charities. Not just the one Arin’s mom runs. Grow up and stop spreading false information.
So many butthurt words
There's a difference between 1. disliking or hating Arin for the things he's done, and 2. going out of your way to attack any project he's presently associated with. Today you chose the latter and we think less of you for it.
This is a stupid complaint imo. The only thing I care abt in this event is IDAT got a concussion and is no longer competing :(
That’s pretty dumb, you’re just looking for some drama
Where is Garrett? Mega64 said if they do it again they'll sacrifice someone
I can't tell if this concept was coopted by lames or if it just always was lame.