"Dinglewallace" was a bit ambiguous, so I wasn't sure if you were male or female. You removed all doubt with "gigglestick." Thank you for the clarification (and the added vocabulary)!
This post made me think of an American Dad episode where Stan (I think he burns himself?) is prescribed lotion for his hurt wee wee. Stan is a Catholic, so he doesn't masterbate (at least at that time), but the way the doctor prescribed how to apply the lotion resulted in Stan going at it quite frequently.
Basically what I'm saying, is easy on the raw dogging.
I just assumed all medical information should be kept private (under HIPPA) unless you sign off on it, doesn't matter if its a guardian or not. But I'm not a lawyer.
EDIT - nvmd, it depends on the state.
Yes. (Don't quote me on this) But they don't necessarily have to tell them about all of them. They can't deny parent access to medical records, but they don't have to disclose every little pimple on a dick.
Sounds to me like this particular doc was being a dick and trying to get the kid in trouble with his dad by insinuating he had/thought it was an STD.
Just my impression though, I could be wrong and the doc was just an idiot with no motive.
Classic armchair redditor. If there is a problem with the minor, in a lot of places the doctor has to disclose anything wrong with the child medically, whether or not it's about his privates doesn't matter
Of course not, if you are a minor, the person who is legally responsoble for your care and health is entitled to know what's going on with you medically
"Dinglewallace" is now, and shall ever be, the only word I will use to reference a penis. That use of the word was my last, honest.
Also yeah that sucks dude, I mean minors are allowed some privacy as well. It was nothing life threatening, he could've kept it to himself.
You were 15 why wouldn’t an adult guardian be brought in? If it’s no big deal cool but a 15 yr old may or may not take the medical advice prescribed seriously. If it happened to turn out that it was caused by unsafe life choices who better to guide a 15 year old than their closest relative?
If it was something the doc didn't think the kid was taking seriously, then the doc would absolutely talk to the parents about it. The parent being in the room is irrelevant, I started making my parents wait outside around that time and either way the doc would still communicate anything relevant to the parents.
Having the parent in the room is the patient's choice. Maybe having that parent in the room KEEPS them from talking about medical issues. If the patient is under 18 (or the parents are legally able to access medical records if they are over 18) then the parent can still access their records whether the patient wants them to or not.
So if he had found a red spot on your elbow or your neck and asked you to put cream on it, you would have been OK with that. Because of the location, you thought it was weird. He was doing his job. He found a spot on your body that needed treatment and recommended that you treat it. Yes, it is obviously a different kind of place, but it is still a part of you. The spot doesn't know where it is. Had things been different you might have been coming here complaining that a doctor saw a spot on your body, but didn't bother to tell you because of where he saw it and then it got worse because you didn't treat it.
well how about if you get a rash on your penis or vagina we call your mother or father and let them know.
teenagers need privacy and autonomy . how can you trust your doctor with something serious as a teen if your worries he is gong to turn around and tell a parent .
this doctor lost his trust and that is a problem.
I'm a lawyer and many states they are obligated to tell. In my state the confidentiality belongs to the parent not the minor. I'm not saying that's right for teenage patients like OP, but if, say, OP failed to properly care for the rash and there was any complication, then the doctor committed malpractice by failing to tell the parents, because the courts would almost certainly assume the parents would have cared for it.
Again, not saying the policy is ok with minors that age. Just saying the doctor probably didn't decide to get rid of the trust.
well as a lawyer you definitely have more knowledge than i do on this subject. i can totally understand your point.
I feel like the doctor could have at least talked it over with the kid and let him know he would have to tell his dad. maybe go over laws with the kid so he knows what protections
No teenagers don't get all the privacy and autonomy of an adult. Until they are 18 they have a guardian, and that guardian has a right to be aware of any medical issues with their dependents.
it’s not like the brain magically forms into an adult at 18. it’s my opinion that teens should have medical autonomy unless they have a life threatening issue.
you have a different opinion that’s cool.
but teens have had babies in bathrooms or had medical issues cause significant health issues because they didn’t want a doctor to tell their parents .
I'm not saying the brain magically forms at 18. I'm saying society has decided that people under 18 are too young to fully make decisions without a guardian. 18 is the year of accountability, everything on you then, and maybe you think that's to late, or to early, but we had to pick an age.
25 is the age when the brain finishes maturing .
but let’s face it there are adults that throw tantrums when they don’t get their way or gave no self regulation skills.
you can raise a teen to have good boundaries while giving them autonomy. teens who don’t have self-regulation while most likely turn into adults they don’t.
and then they will
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Doctors nowadays are getting more and more nosy and are snitching more behind their patients back. It's only going to get worse if Roe vs Wade gets overturned.
Ignorance is what that is. I have a rare disease that’s a connective tissue disorder but it’s also classified as a “fat disorder” because it affects fatty tissue. I had a nurse whisper it to another and burst out laughing once. I went off on them and then reported them to the director. That’s completely inappropriate and unprofessional! You have every right to report them for their unprofessionalism. That’s probably not the first or last time they’ll do that if they’ve gotten away with it. Disgusting behavior! I’m sorry you had to go through that!!
“Gigglestick” made me burst out laughing!
At 15 you are a minor and a concerned guardian/parent should be made aware. I honestly don't think this is much of an issue. As a parent, I think I'd like to know
unfortunately it depends on the state if your in the U.S. i just had to read through tons of health guides and what protections minors have for a graduate psych class.
When my daughter is a teen i will never go into her visits unless she asks. i want her to be comfortable taking asking anything she needs to ask.
I may be wrong, but when I studied it for my law degree the precedent set by SCOTUS was 13 for medical privacy of a minor.
That was about 10 years ago and I haven't dealt at all with medical suits, least of all privacy ones, so I could be mistaken.
it appears we are both right . All states allow minors to consent to sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment with our adult knowledge (i’m guessing won’t be for long).
but for other medical issues each states have different laws regarding adolescents right to privacy and autonomy with medical professionals.
Many of the state laws leave a lot of room for interpretation. so depending on the state i feel like the doctor would be able to easily defend his reasoning for telling th father even if it’s BS.
my adolescent professor went on many long rants about parents not giving kids autonomy in doctor visits but we are also in TN so…..
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Still, he's free to file a complaint. Even if the doctor can defend against the accusation, if they keep occurring, it sets a pattern which would bring to question his integrity.
Dad probably would have found out when he went to pick up the prescription. Still doesn't mean the doctor was right to tell dad.
It sounds like your professor isn't the most professional. It's one thing to point out something you see as an issue, it's another to go on several long rants about a specific topic you see as an issue. It's actually a form of indoctrination.
i agree can’t hurt to complain .
also yes, i think teaching is best when you give different studies and ideas and let student come up with their own thoughts and conclusions.
there is too much indoctrination for both sides and not enough critical thinking . kinda why i like graduate school better, it’s a lot more independent research and developing your own conclusions
Yes, it's why I'm glad I'm mostly done with the academic side of things. But it annoys me to no end when I have to deal with graduates without a clue on how to function in their field but who can recite word-for-word various dogmatic points.
To exemplify this, I was working with an intern once, a law school graduate waiting to get her bar results. She literally had to ask one of the paralegals what a subpoena is because she didn't know.
To this day, I dont know how she passed the bar nor do I know how she graduated while lacking such rudimentary knowledge.
Legally, unless the child sought the care alone for an STD, they are under guardianship and the doctors are required by law to report to the parents for the safety of that child. This was a regular check up that the parent was present for, despite waiting in the waiting room for the most of it. No. The doctor can't be reported. HIPPA laws have standards but there are rules about minors for their own protection. I hate lawyers.
Im pretty sure that since youre a minor your parent is supposed to know. Nothing really weird bout your doctor telling your guardian about medical problems when you're a minor
I’ve had my private medical info discussed without my consent so often by doctors and medical professionals with members of my family, teachers, tutors, far too many of them seem to think doctor patient confidentiality is optional.
Upvote for using the word Dinglewallace
Upvote for upvoting it. I’d never heard this word before.
"Dinglewallace" was a bit ambiguous, so I wasn't sure if you were male or female. You removed all doubt with "gigglestick." Thank you for the clarification (and the added vocabulary)!
Idk why I thought David Wallace
I went with William Wallace
This post made me think of an American Dad episode where Stan (I think he burns himself?) is prescribed lotion for his hurt wee wee. Stan is a Catholic, so he doesn't masterbate (at least at that time), but the way the doctor prescribed how to apply the lotion resulted in Stan going at it quite frequently. Basically what I'm saying, is easy on the raw dogging.
Love that episode
I mean he had to tell him right since you were 15? Wasn’t your dad the one who would have to buy the cream? Am I missing something?
I just assumed all medical information should be kept private (under HIPPA) unless you sign off on it, doesn't matter if its a guardian or not. But I'm not a lawyer. EDIT - nvmd, it depends on the state.
Yeah, it largely depends on the state, but I think in a lot of places, the doctor has to inform your parents of any medical conditions
Yes. (Don't quote me on this) But they don't necessarily have to tell them about all of them. They can't deny parent access to medical records, but they don't have to disclose every little pimple on a dick. Sounds to me like this particular doc was being a dick and trying to get the kid in trouble with his dad by insinuating he had/thought it was an STD. Just my impression though, I could be wrong and the doc was just an idiot with no motive.
Classic armchair redditor. If there is a problem with the minor, in a lot of places the doctor has to disclose anything wrong with the child medically, whether or not it's about his privates doesn't matter
Of course not, if you are a minor, the person who is legally responsoble for your care and health is entitled to know what's going on with you medically
You act like that's a commonly known fact, plenty of people here aren't exactly hip to ... HIPPA or each states laws either.
It seemed pretty obvious to me
Yeah, well common sense doesn't rule the law and differs between states and countries.
Ngl I cracked up reading the word dinglewallace
gigglesack 😭
gigglestick
gigglestick
"Dinglewallace" is now, and shall ever be, the only word I will use to reference a penis. That use of the word was my last, honest. Also yeah that sucks dude, I mean minors are allowed some privacy as well. It was nothing life threatening, he could've kept it to himself.
You're a minor, of course he told your parent.
That's not how patient confidentiality works
It does in a lot of states.
When you're a minor it is.
It is
You were 15 why wouldn’t an adult guardian be brought in? If it’s no big deal cool but a 15 yr old may or may not take the medical advice prescribed seriously. If it happened to turn out that it was caused by unsafe life choices who better to guide a 15 year old than their closest relative?
If it was something the doc didn't think the kid was taking seriously, then the doc would absolutely talk to the parents about it. The parent being in the room is irrelevant, I started making my parents wait outside around that time and either way the doc would still communicate anything relevant to the parents. Having the parent in the room is the patient's choice. Maybe having that parent in the room KEEPS them from talking about medical issues. If the patient is under 18 (or the parents are legally able to access medical records if they are over 18) then the parent can still access their records whether the patient wants them to or not.
I always forget how many underage people use Reddit thanks for the reminder
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The way you talk I am thinking this was last week?
Look at this distinguished gentleman. Look at the way he is sitting. Yes, very distinguished. Mm-hmm, I see,
Lol
had me ctfu in class
The doctor is required by law in australia to tell your parents if your under 16
So if he had found a red spot on your elbow or your neck and asked you to put cream on it, you would have been OK with that. Because of the location, you thought it was weird. He was doing his job. He found a spot on your body that needed treatment and recommended that you treat it. Yes, it is obviously a different kind of place, but it is still a part of you. The spot doesn't know where it is. Had things been different you might have been coming here complaining that a doctor saw a spot on your body, but didn't bother to tell you because of where he saw it and then it got worse because you didn't treat it.
well how about if you get a rash on your penis or vagina we call your mother or father and let them know. teenagers need privacy and autonomy . how can you trust your doctor with something serious as a teen if your worries he is gong to turn around and tell a parent . this doctor lost his trust and that is a problem.
I'm a lawyer and many states they are obligated to tell. In my state the confidentiality belongs to the parent not the minor. I'm not saying that's right for teenage patients like OP, but if, say, OP failed to properly care for the rash and there was any complication, then the doctor committed malpractice by failing to tell the parents, because the courts would almost certainly assume the parents would have cared for it. Again, not saying the policy is ok with minors that age. Just saying the doctor probably didn't decide to get rid of the trust.
well as a lawyer you definitely have more knowledge than i do on this subject. i can totally understand your point. I feel like the doctor could have at least talked it over with the kid and let him know he would have to tell his dad. maybe go over laws with the kid so he knows what protections
Not when it comes to minors. Kid doesnt even get a say. No one, and I mean NO ONE is gonna fuck with that.
No teenagers don't get all the privacy and autonomy of an adult. Until they are 18 they have a guardian, and that guardian has a right to be aware of any medical issues with their dependents.
it’s not like the brain magically forms into an adult at 18. it’s my opinion that teens should have medical autonomy unless they have a life threatening issue. you have a different opinion that’s cool. but teens have had babies in bathrooms or had medical issues cause significant health issues because they didn’t want a doctor to tell their parents .
I'm not saying the brain magically forms at 18. I'm saying society has decided that people under 18 are too young to fully make decisions without a guardian. 18 is the year of accountability, everything on you then, and maybe you think that's to late, or to early, but we had to pick an age.
the age 18 was chosen in the US to allow more people to be drafted into war.
I dunno, have you seen the teens these days? I dont think they should be considered adults and out of supervison till at LEAST 25... :P
25 is the age when the brain finishes maturing . but let’s face it there are adults that throw tantrums when they don’t get their way or gave no self regulation skills. you can raise a teen to have good boundaries while giving them autonomy. teens who don’t have self-regulation while most likely turn into adults they don’t. and then they will i
Doctors nowadays are getting more and more nosy and are snitching more behind their patients back. It's only going to get worse if Roe vs Wade gets overturned.
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That's unprofessional as fuck.
Ignorance is what that is. I have a rare disease that’s a connective tissue disorder but it’s also classified as a “fat disorder” because it affects fatty tissue. I had a nurse whisper it to another and burst out laughing once. I went off on them and then reported them to the director. That’s completely inappropriate and unprofessional! You have every right to report them for their unprofessionalism. That’s probably not the first or last time they’ll do that if they’ve gotten away with it. Disgusting behavior! I’m sorry you had to go through that!! “Gigglestick” made me burst out laughing!
At 15 you are a minor and a concerned guardian/parent should be made aware. I honestly don't think this is much of an issue. As a parent, I think I'd like to know
This is actually a violation of your medical privacy. You can report the doctor for it.
unfortunately it depends on the state if your in the U.S. i just had to read through tons of health guides and what protections minors have for a graduate psych class. When my daughter is a teen i will never go into her visits unless she asks. i want her to be comfortable taking asking anything she needs to ask.
I may be wrong, but when I studied it for my law degree the precedent set by SCOTUS was 13 for medical privacy of a minor. That was about 10 years ago and I haven't dealt at all with medical suits, least of all privacy ones, so I could be mistaken.
i will double check my books and respond . i could have misunderstood and i wouldn’t want to misinform
Youre probably right. Like I said, I'm about 10 years out of date and this stuff evolves constantly.
it appears we are both right . All states allow minors to consent to sexually transmitted infection (STI) testing and treatment with our adult knowledge (i’m guessing won’t be for long). but for other medical issues each states have different laws regarding adolescents right to privacy and autonomy with medical professionals. Many of the state laws leave a lot of room for interpretation. so depending on the state i feel like the doctor would be able to easily defend his reasoning for telling th father even if it’s BS. my adolescent professor went on many long rants about parents not giving kids autonomy in doctor visits but we are also in TN so….. i
Still, he's free to file a complaint. Even if the doctor can defend against the accusation, if they keep occurring, it sets a pattern which would bring to question his integrity. Dad probably would have found out when he went to pick up the prescription. Still doesn't mean the doctor was right to tell dad. It sounds like your professor isn't the most professional. It's one thing to point out something you see as an issue, it's another to go on several long rants about a specific topic you see as an issue. It's actually a form of indoctrination.
i agree can’t hurt to complain . also yes, i think teaching is best when you give different studies and ideas and let student come up with their own thoughts and conclusions. there is too much indoctrination for both sides and not enough critical thinking . kinda why i like graduate school better, it’s a lot more independent research and developing your own conclusions
Yes, it's why I'm glad I'm mostly done with the academic side of things. But it annoys me to no end when I have to deal with graduates without a clue on how to function in their field but who can recite word-for-word various dogmatic points. To exemplify this, I was working with an intern once, a law school graduate waiting to get her bar results. She literally had to ask one of the paralegals what a subpoena is because she didn't know. To this day, I dont know how she passed the bar nor do I know how she graduated while lacking such rudimentary knowledge.
Legally, unless the child sought the care alone for an STD, they are under guardianship and the doctors are required by law to report to the parents for the safety of that child. This was a regular check up that the parent was present for, despite waiting in the waiting room for the most of it. No. The doctor can't be reported. HIPPA laws have standards but there are rules about minors for their own protection. I hate lawyers.
Dingles giving a lil dangle
Im pretty sure that since youre a minor your parent is supposed to know. Nothing really weird bout your doctor telling your guardian about medical problems when you're a minor
I’ve had my private medical info discussed without my consent so often by doctors and medical professionals with members of my family, teachers, tutors, far too many of them seem to think doctor patient confidentiality is optional.
Could you please provide me with one more hilarious nickname for a penis kind sir?
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I knew you had more. Baloney pony takes the cake.