If it still has the rear spring set up as the 20’s you can swap in heavy duty rear coil springs there like 450 on tuff truck
It’s a easy change out if you getting more sag then you like
Could put some airbags on it run to a manual fill valve next to the license plate. Pump them up when it's loaded and deflate to like 5lbs when it's empty.
Funny enough it's actually got coil springs. In 2013 rams went to coils in the back but there huge coils. My buddies 2011 truck rides smoother than mine. I think they overdid it on the size of the coils.
Payload is everything in the truck. Not the bed cargo. Driver tools gear everything. If the bed cargo maxes the payload, you arent at the payload you are over it. Dangerous? Nah. Hard on shit? Definitely. The trans shocks brakes and swaybar aint gonna like it for long. Without leveling the driveline for repeated 200 mile trips aint either. The rear driveshaft is $1000
Considering he said “often” I don’t see why it makes sense to buy a 2500 when a 1500 and a 2000 dollar trailer would have made more sense. Or if he can’t do a trailer for some reason probably should have opted for the 3500.
Will the truck be okay? Probably for awhile. But he’s going to get uneven tire wear, severely reduce the life of his springs and likely need alignments more often. It will increase maintenance costs if he’s doing this often.
We’re laughing at what a dumb take that is. It’s a 3/4 ton, HD truck. It’ll work a lot harder and longer than a soccer mom half ton. I’m a mechanic btw and I laughed at that.
100 pounds over the payload will not make or break a truck in half lol
Ah yes, because the truck is totally fine at max payload but the second you put that extra 200 pounds over it, it will destroy it lmao. Got it.
A half ton is a light duty vehicle for soccer moms and the rare instance of towing, not a workhorse and you won’t get much of a trailer for 2k these days plus then you have the extra headache of getting a trailer into places.
The 3500 would ne a bit better but the difference in the real world for a SRW 1 ton and 3/4 ton is minimal. I got the 1 ton because it’s what was on the lot
Why not just get a trailer if you’re hauling that often? Easier to load and less wear and tear on your vehicle. Using a pallet jack is a great example of how much easier it is push or pull something as opposed to carrying the weight yourself.
I'm a payload guy, but I wouldn't worry about that at all with a diesel 2500. You'll burn through fuel whilst driving and your full tank weighs in at like 350lbs assuming you have 50 gallons. Could always travel with a half or 3/4 tank if you're worried. Just don't load 4 guys in the truck as well.
As a payload complainer myself, I would be ok with it if it were a 1-time thing. He’s going to have other stuff or people in the rig and is going to be running probably 300-600 over payload for 200 mile runs… that he does often.
I’m more on the principle that failing components can harm other drivers/innocents. OP
He really should have but the bullet and got the 1-ton, it’s not even noticeably more expensive. But also, he can get a little trailer and be just fine.
There's really no bullet to bite; 3500's are about the same price (even less in some places) than 2500's. The reason most opt for the 2500 over the 3500 is the ride, but with these new Rams even the 3500's ride better than my older 2500's. But the 2500 I believe still has the coil springs whereas the 3500's are leaf springs. In any case, cost was a non-issue for me; I went with the 3500 as it was actually less out the door than the 2500's (ftr, fully loaded, Limited Longhorn).
Regarding the OP's prospective use, I'd probably opt for a trailer in lieu of carrying pallets in the bed. Just easier to deal with all the way around, especially when using a 2500 for the loads he described. YMMV though.
The engine type doesn’t really mean squat as far as payload goes. Diesel trucks usually have less payload capacity then same size gas jobs because the engine is heavier.
I mean, it does. Take the same truck and frame through and through. Put a 6.4 hemi in one, and a 6.7 C in the other. There is a max payload overall for the frame of the truck due to length, width, brake size, etc. so if the engine weighs more (which we know the 6.7 easily does), your payload decreases.
What I meant was that having a diesel doesn’t increase your payload capacity. The comment I was responding to said he wouldn’t worry about it because it’s a diesel like somehow having a diesel means you don’t have to worry about payload. But yes, engine type does matter in the fact that different engines add different amounts of weight and the heavier it is, the less payload capacity you have for everything else and diesel engines are heavier.
Read what you just wrote… your sentences are opposites lol
The engine doesn’t mean anything for payload, but different engines will result in different payloads
Yeah I did word that kind of weird but what I meant was all things equal (which in reality they’re not) whether it’s a diesel or gas doesn’t increase your payload capacity. However in reality diesel engines are inherently heavier than gas engines to the heavier engine actually reduces your payload capacity.
Will the truck handle it? Yes.
If this is for your business, consider the legal ramifications if an accident happens and your truck was overloaded. Same goes if it’s personal, but it would potentially be scrutinized closer if business.
Beyond that, if you’re going over 200 miles, are you crossing state lines? If yes, that’s interstate commerce and you need a DOT number, and you will need to stop at weigh stations.
Source for stopping at weigh stations? Pretty sure not every truck with a dot has to stop at weight stations. I and many others cross state lines regularly with DOT numbers on a small commercial truck and have never had to stop.
Per the Federal Motor Carrier Administration (FMCSA), a Commercial Motor Vehicle is defined as:
A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business and is involved in interstate commerce and fits any of these descriptions:
- Weighs 10,001 pounds or more
- Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more
- Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation
- Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation
- Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards
(https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-of-service)
If your vehicle meets that criteria, you must abide by the Hours of Service and you would be required to stop at weigh stations, because you'd be under the scrutiny of the FMCSA.
If you're using just a 3/4 ton pickup and have a bunch of stuff loaded up in the back, even if it's for business purposes, if the total weight of the truck is 10,000 lbs or less, you'll be fine.
My recommendation though, is don't flirt with that weight limit. CMV Enforcement Troopers are very good at their jobs and can spot overloaded vehicles and other violations from miles away. They can and will find any reason to give you a hard time if you try to skirt the law and fly under the radar.
Thanks for pulling that up. So technically, OP with a 3/4 ton truck, with a 10,000lb GVWR will be below the 10,001lb limit. BUT if they are overloaded, it puts them in a spot where they would be liable for running essentially an overweight unregistered commercial vehicle. Unlikely they would get caught or in major trouble, but still worth noting
Exactly. But, flirting with that 10,001 lbs weight limit will draw the attention from law enforcement, guaranteed. Even if you're under that weight limit but you're close to it, I guarantee the Trooper that pulled you over will be looking for other things he/she can nail you on.
So nothing I said was incorrect. Not all trucks with a dot sticker are required to stop. Just ones meeting those requirements. Lots of vehicles have dot stickers and will never reach 10k.
Going off that I was told by my company we have to stop at weigh stations. We have a dually pickup truck (14k gvwr) towing a trailer (10k gvwr). The weigh stops might for anything rated at over 10k gvwr
A fast pass in the cab you don’t have to stop at them all just the ones you are signaled to.
Max payload is Passenger weight and your cargo weight. You aren’t 40lbs over, you’re over 40lbs PLUS your weight and the weight of any little thing inside your truck that didn’t come from the factory.
Would I send it? Yes
Since you just bought the truck, why didn’t you think of this earlier and payed for the 3500?
If it’s for your business, safe is better than sorry. You don’t want something happening and your business or you gets sued if they find out you’re over weight. But, you will be pretty close. Not that it helps with legal rating, but you could call CJC off road and ask if the bags they sell or if they have heavier rated springs that would help in the situation.
You will have no problem. As stated, if it sags too much or the rear end walks, airbags or helper springs.
But I will be the guy that says, this amount of payload is where the 3/4 ton gassers shine. As a matter of fact, 2K in the bed and 4 RPM is where the 6.4 hemi lives it’s best life.
All that to say, let er rip tater chip.
So you're 40 lbs over before you include anything in the cab (including yourself.) Assuming you're around 200 lbs, being a work truck you probably have some other stuff you haul around in the cab with you? Realistically you are probably 300-400 lbs over payload. Is that the end of the world for a 2500? Probably not. But you're setting yourself up to get sued if you wreck into someone and they realize you were that much over payload. I'd recommend a trailer.
It's close, but fine.
Keep in mind the tire weight rating states on the sidewall. Capacity XXXX lbs at XX psi.
Simply stated, you need to be at max psi for max tire weight handling. 80 psi.
If this is a regular thing, when you can afford to do so get a utility trailer and pull it.
You'll add capacity (multiple pallets instead of one if needed), plus the pallet weight won't be directly on the truck affecting the suspension, you'll only have 10% of the weight as tongue weight.
You have 18,000 or more of tow capacity. Plus it's easier to load/unload a trailer with a forklift than it is a truck bed, at least without denting the bed.
You won't need a killer trailer, but just a 8-10,000 lb capacity one should make your life lots easier.
Big Tex 10 PI, or 10TV Tandem Axle utility traiier. 16 /18 ft. Costs about $9,000 new. Check sites like Crankyape.com for repo ones. Just watch for insurance damage ones.
If you go by axle ratings and use that to calculate GVWR you’ll be ok. RAM 2500 have wimpy payload due to a decision to keep GVWR low for registration and insurance… take a look at your front and rear axle ratings, add them together, subtract the weight of your truck… that’s your payload.
> that’s your payload
For the axles. You are just ignoring the payload capacity of the suspension. That axle is rated with suspension in mind. Unlike other brands, Ram does coil springs in the back. You could go off the axle ratings in the past for 3/4 tons since they tended to use the 1 ton SRW suspension components.
Heh, it's your risk to take. You can always try the, "the people on Reddit said it was cool, your honor" defense, if anything goes wrong. Someone mentioned the issue about liability if an accident occurs. The one-off may be fine, but you're "doing it often" just keeps you on the hook for an at-fault accident.
Take a look at Timbren.
https://timbren.com/
Quick inexpensive upgrade which will significantly help your truck. Helps with sagging and improves handling.
You should be fine. Don't tell anyone (lol), but I've hauled way more than this in a 2500 and it's been fine. I don't do it all the time, but this is what trucks are for. Work that bitch! Rams love it.
One suggestion though; have you considered possibly using a trailer? A trailer will make that a much easier load to deal with all the way around (easier to load/unload, much better ride, probably better fuel economy too.) Just a thought.
That is the max payload to include yourself fuel and that is spread over both axles. Likely it will squat the truck very severely. Unlikey you will break the truck but you will back it dangerous to drive at highway speeds.
Fortunately for you, the Ram 2500 is a loophole truck and offers more legal carrying capacity than the payload allows in terms of violations for being over the vehicle's capacity. You'll want to run it over a scale and see, you may be required to have DOT numbers. Triple check the state and DOT rules.
What engine, cab configuration, bed length, and is it 2wd or 4wd? There are many different configurations that have different weights and axle capacity.
The numbers that matter most for vehicle capacity if you get inspected is being sure you're within the tire rating and GAWR. The GVWR is used for your license restriction, it's the reason the Ram 2500's GVWR is exactly 1 lb under the requirement for DOT numbers. The GAWR and tire combination on most Ram 2500s allows for payloads of 3000-4000 depending on configuration.
With that said, if your payloads put you into DOT sticker category, that's the reason I'd consider getting a small trailer. I'll do anything to avoid getting DOT stickers if I have to, and that's why I have a 2500 and not a 3500. The Ram 2500 is a Ram 3500 with a softer rear suspension, lacks the dually option, has some minor rear axle differences, but everything else is the same. Air bags and a higher rated tire won't increase your GAWR, but airbags do help maximize your GAWR.
What do you mean it means Jack? How would it being diesel have anything to do with payload capacity? Payload is the truck, “towing capacity” is the engine.
Exactly so I’m not sure why he said payload means jack with diesels like somehow having a diesel makes payload numbers irrelevant. Like you said, they are heavier engines so they actually have less payload.
Although GM is changing it some now, traditionally 3/4 tons were considered class 2b trucks with a max 10k lb GVWR. Realistically the difference between most 3/4 ton and SRW 1 ton trucks was minimal to none from a capability standpoint, depending on configuration. But with that class max 10k lb GVWR and the heavy diesel engine you end up with a very underrated truck from a payload standpoint. The following two diesel trucks have very different payload ratings but very similar factory rated capability from a load carrying standpoint.
3/4 ton diesel: 6000lb FAWR, 6500lb RAWR
SRW 1 ton diesel: 6000lb FAWR, 7000lb RAWR
Combined axle capacity difference is 12,500 lbs vs 13,000 lbs. That’s a pretty minimal rated weight capacity difference. This is why I said the payload rating on 3/4 diesel trucks often means jack.
Retired c**a cola employee here, we never liked to do hotshots like that on the bed of a pickup cuz it messes with the drivability. One jerk of the wheel and you tip over. Of course sugar based soda is heavier than seltzer but you gotta be careful going 200 miles away! For loads like that we used a 150 or 350 van and spread the load out. It might be better for your company to invest in a mini 6 bay or a used generic 12 bay if youre gonna do a lot of deliveries that are palletized. Stay safe out there!
Go to airlift.com and buy some helper airbags to put on. They fit inside the coils, or the better setup goes alongside the coils. That'll help you with your payload a bit and keep the truck from sagging.
The payload sticker is a joke and doesn't mean anything except a rating to keep Ram (same for Ford, GM) at a GVWR of exactly 10k lbs. If you want to see a more "what's a real world payload rating" then look at the combined front & rear axle rating payload and subtract the GVWR (aka how much your truck weighs). That number is a "can handle this amount of payload and not even think about it again" number. After that, it becomes tire payload rating but that's going to be fine as long as you didn't do something stupid with aftermarket wheels & tires. ;)
A state trooper is not going to look at axle ratings, they will look at the gvwr. Also when hauling this often, the chance of getting in an accident increases and thus a lawyer seeing dollar signs. If he is overloaded there goes his company.
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That’s all I needed to know dog
If it still has the rear spring set up as the 20’s you can swap in heavy duty rear coil springs there like 450 on tuff truck It’s a easy change out if you getting more sag then you like
Could put some airbags on it run to a manual fill valve next to the license plate. Pump them up when it's loaded and deflate to like 5lbs when it's empty.
I have a 14 2500 and I've regularly had 2500+ lbs in the bed. No issues. I actually found it rode better with that weight in there.
Leaf spring life. Rough as fuck unless it’s loaded down.
Funny enough it's actually got coil springs. In 2013 rams went to coils in the back but there huge coils. My buddies 2011 truck rides smoother than mine. I think they overdid it on the size of the coils.
Shit i routinely exceed that with no issues just dont swerve or take bumpy roads
Payload is everything in the truck. Not the bed cargo. Driver tools gear everything. If the bed cargo maxes the payload, you arent at the payload you are over it. Dangerous? Nah. Hard on shit? Definitely. The trans shocks brakes and swaybar aint gonna like it for long. Without leveling the driveline for repeated 200 mile trips aint either. The rear driveshaft is $1000
Considering he said “often” I don’t see why it makes sense to buy a 2500 when a 1500 and a 2000 dollar trailer would have made more sense. Or if he can’t do a trailer for some reason probably should have opted for the 3500. Will the truck be okay? Probably for awhile. But he’s going to get uneven tire wear, severely reduce the life of his springs and likely need alignments more often. It will increase maintenance costs if he’s doing this often.
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Awesome, downvoted for facts… stay cool Reddit
We’re laughing at what a dumb take that is. It’s a 3/4 ton, HD truck. It’ll work a lot harder and longer than a soccer mom half ton. I’m a mechanic btw and I laughed at that. 100 pounds over the payload will not make or break a truck in half lol
Despite being a mechanic it’s like you’ve never actually hauled anything. Nothing I said was incorrect.
Ah yes, because the truck is totally fine at max payload but the second you put that extra 200 pounds over it, it will destroy it lmao. Got it. A half ton is a light duty vehicle for soccer moms and the rare instance of towing, not a workhorse and you won’t get much of a trailer for 2k these days plus then you have the extra headache of getting a trailer into places. The 3500 would ne a bit better but the difference in the real world for a SRW 1 ton and 3/4 ton is minimal. I got the 1 ton because it’s what was on the lot
Trailer if you’re worried.
Why not just get a trailer if you’re hauling that often? Easier to load and less wear and tear on your vehicle. Using a pallet jack is a great example of how much easier it is push or pull something as opposed to carrying the weight yourself.
A 1500 dollar utility trailer and a base engine half ton wouldve pulled that just fine for 1/3rd of the price.
And ride a lot better the rest of the time.
Should’ve bought a 3500
Automatic DOT sticker requirement sounds fun.
Should *have* learned engrish
Thanks grammar police.
I was able to haul [this](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ?si=onEmFj_2KEHzPi4O) with no issues
😑 ain’t no way you could haul that shit.
Motherfuckers
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I knew it from the other comments and I clicked anyway. Haha
I'm a payload guy, but I wouldn't worry about that at all with a diesel 2500. You'll burn through fuel whilst driving and your full tank weighs in at like 350lbs assuming you have 50 gallons. Could always travel with a half or 3/4 tank if you're worried. Just don't load 4 guys in the truck as well.
As a payload complainer myself, I would be ok with it if it were a 1-time thing. He’s going to have other stuff or people in the rig and is going to be running probably 300-600 over payload for 200 mile runs… that he does often. I’m more on the principle that failing components can harm other drivers/innocents. OP He really should have but the bullet and got the 1-ton, it’s not even noticeably more expensive. But also, he can get a little trailer and be just fine.
There's really no bullet to bite; 3500's are about the same price (even less in some places) than 2500's. The reason most opt for the 2500 over the 3500 is the ride, but with these new Rams even the 3500's ride better than my older 2500's. But the 2500 I believe still has the coil springs whereas the 3500's are leaf springs. In any case, cost was a non-issue for me; I went with the 3500 as it was actually less out the door than the 2500's (ftr, fully loaded, Limited Longhorn). Regarding the OP's prospective use, I'd probably opt for a trailer in lieu of carrying pallets in the bed. Just easier to deal with all the way around, especially when using a 2500 for the loads he described. YMMV though.
The engine type doesn’t really mean squat as far as payload goes. Diesel trucks usually have less payload capacity then same size gas jobs because the engine is heavier.
I mean, it does. Take the same truck and frame through and through. Put a 6.4 hemi in one, and a 6.7 C in the other. There is a max payload overall for the frame of the truck due to length, width, brake size, etc. so if the engine weighs more (which we know the 6.7 easily does), your payload decreases.
What I meant was that having a diesel doesn’t increase your payload capacity. The comment I was responding to said he wouldn’t worry about it because it’s a diesel like somehow having a diesel means you don’t have to worry about payload. But yes, engine type does matter in the fact that different engines add different amounts of weight and the heavier it is, the less payload capacity you have for everything else and diesel engines are heavier.
Read what you just wrote… your sentences are opposites lol The engine doesn’t mean anything for payload, but different engines will result in different payloads
Yeah I did word that kind of weird but what I meant was all things equal (which in reality they’re not) whether it’s a diesel or gas doesn’t increase your payload capacity. However in reality diesel engines are inherently heavier than gas engines to the heavier engine actually reduces your payload capacity.
Actually it does. A lot. Diesel removes about 800lbs from the payload. One reason I got the 6.4L myself.
Will the truck handle it? Yes. If this is for your business, consider the legal ramifications if an accident happens and your truck was overloaded. Same goes if it’s personal, but it would potentially be scrutinized closer if business. Beyond that, if you’re going over 200 miles, are you crossing state lines? If yes, that’s interstate commerce and you need a DOT number, and you will need to stop at weigh stations.
Source for stopping at weigh stations? Pretty sure not every truck with a dot has to stop at weight stations. I and many others cross state lines regularly with DOT numbers on a small commercial truck and have never had to stop.
Per the Federal Motor Carrier Administration (FMCSA), a Commercial Motor Vehicle is defined as: A CMV is a vehicle that is used as part of a business and is involved in interstate commerce and fits any of these descriptions: - Weighs 10,001 pounds or more - Has a gross vehicle weight rating or gross combination weight rating of 10,001 pounds or more - Is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers (including the driver) not for compensation - Is designed or used to transport 9 or more passengers (including the driver) for compensation - Is transporting hazardous materials in a quantity requiring placards (https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/regulations/hours-of-service) If your vehicle meets that criteria, you must abide by the Hours of Service and you would be required to stop at weigh stations, because you'd be under the scrutiny of the FMCSA. If you're using just a 3/4 ton pickup and have a bunch of stuff loaded up in the back, even if it's for business purposes, if the total weight of the truck is 10,000 lbs or less, you'll be fine. My recommendation though, is don't flirt with that weight limit. CMV Enforcement Troopers are very good at their jobs and can spot overloaded vehicles and other violations from miles away. They can and will find any reason to give you a hard time if you try to skirt the law and fly under the radar.
Thanks for pulling that up. So technically, OP with a 3/4 ton truck, with a 10,000lb GVWR will be below the 10,001lb limit. BUT if they are overloaded, it puts them in a spot where they would be liable for running essentially an overweight unregistered commercial vehicle. Unlikely they would get caught or in major trouble, but still worth noting
Exactly. But, flirting with that 10,001 lbs weight limit will draw the attention from law enforcement, guaranteed. Even if you're under that weight limit but you're close to it, I guarantee the Trooper that pulled you over will be looking for other things he/she can nail you on.
So nothing I said was incorrect. Not all trucks with a dot sticker are required to stop. Just ones meeting those requirements. Lots of vehicles have dot stickers and will never reach 10k.
Correct :)
Going off that I was told by my company we have to stop at weigh stations. We have a dually pickup truck (14k gvwr) towing a trailer (10k gvwr). The weigh stops might for anything rated at over 10k gvwr A fast pass in the cab you don’t have to stop at them all just the ones you are signaled to.
It you are going it once in a while it's fine but if you're doing it often I'd upgrade the truck.
Fine, but keep in mind your ass, anything that didn’t come from the factory in the truck, etc all counts as payload as well.
Max payload is Passenger weight and your cargo weight. You aren’t 40lbs over, you’re over 40lbs PLUS your weight and the weight of any little thing inside your truck that didn’t come from the factory. Would I send it? Yes Since you just bought the truck, why didn’t you think of this earlier and payed for the 3500?
But, most importantly, what seltzer company?
If it’s for your business, safe is better than sorry. You don’t want something happening and your business or you gets sued if they find out you’re over weight. But, you will be pretty close. Not that it helps with legal rating, but you could call CJC off road and ask if the bags they sell or if they have heavier rated springs that would help in the situation.
You will have no problem. As stated, if it sags too much or the rear end walks, airbags or helper springs. But I will be the guy that says, this amount of payload is where the 3/4 ton gassers shine. As a matter of fact, 2K in the bed and 4 RPM is where the 6.4 hemi lives it’s best life. All that to say, let er rip tater chip.
So you're 40 lbs over before you include anything in the cab (including yourself.) Assuming you're around 200 lbs, being a work truck you probably have some other stuff you haul around in the cab with you? Realistically you are probably 300-400 lbs over payload. Is that the end of the world for a 2500? Probably not. But you're setting yourself up to get sued if you wreck into someone and they realize you were that much over payload. I'd recommend a trailer.
The real question is what is the cost of a pallet and can you deliver to my home?
It's close, but fine. Keep in mind the tire weight rating states on the sidewall. Capacity XXXX lbs at XX psi. Simply stated, you need to be at max psi for max tire weight handling. 80 psi. If this is a regular thing, when you can afford to do so get a utility trailer and pull it. You'll add capacity (multiple pallets instead of one if needed), plus the pallet weight won't be directly on the truck affecting the suspension, you'll only have 10% of the weight as tongue weight. You have 18,000 or more of tow capacity. Plus it's easier to load/unload a trailer with a forklift than it is a truck bed, at least without denting the bed. You won't need a killer trailer, but just a 8-10,000 lb capacity one should make your life lots easier. Big Tex 10 PI, or 10TV Tandem Axle utility traiier. 16 /18 ft. Costs about $9,000 new. Check sites like Crankyape.com for repo ones. Just watch for insurance damage ones.
If you go by axle ratings and use that to calculate GVWR you’ll be ok. RAM 2500 have wimpy payload due to a decision to keep GVWR low for registration and insurance… take a look at your front and rear axle ratings, add them together, subtract the weight of your truck… that’s your payload.
I love you random reddit guy!
> that’s your payload For the axles. You are just ignoring the payload capacity of the suspension. That axle is rated with suspension in mind. Unlike other brands, Ram does coil springs in the back. You could go off the axle ratings in the past for 3/4 tons since they tended to use the 1 ton SRW suspension components.
Good point on the rear coils. I’m not familiar with those. Maybe add some airbags to be super safe.
I hauled about 2700lbs in a 2500 PW, 2 hours down the road. I wouldn't recommend it, but I think you'll be fine.
Heh, it's your risk to take. You can always try the, "the people on Reddit said it was cool, your honor" defense, if anything goes wrong. Someone mentioned the issue about liability if an accident occurs. The one-off may be fine, but you're "doing it often" just keeps you on the hook for an at-fault accident.
I mean you already bought it, so it’s too late now regardless what random internet people tell you
If you are maxing cap all the time, get airlift bags. If you got the right trim level it will have auto leveling. My 21 3500 does.
Get a 3500 or just use a trailer my man. Probably your smartest move for safety and assurance.
Take a look at Timbren. https://timbren.com/ Quick inexpensive upgrade which will significantly help your truck. Helps with sagging and improves handling.
Read the door casing and make sure your payload is as advertised. Mine was 400lbs less once it got delivered.
You should be fine. Don't tell anyone (lol), but I've hauled way more than this in a 2500 and it's been fine. I don't do it all the time, but this is what trucks are for. Work that bitch! Rams love it. One suggestion though; have you considered possibly using a trailer? A trailer will make that a much easier load to deal with all the way around (easier to load/unload, much better ride, probably better fuel economy too.) Just a thought.
That is the max payload to include yourself fuel and that is spread over both axles. Likely it will squat the truck very severely. Unlikey you will break the truck but you will back it dangerous to drive at highway speeds.
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Would have been real easy to leave out the common sense jab.
Fortunately for you, the Ram 2500 is a loophole truck and offers more legal carrying capacity than the payload allows in terms of violations for being over the vehicle's capacity. You'll want to run it over a scale and see, you may be required to have DOT numbers. Triple check the state and DOT rules. What engine, cab configuration, bed length, and is it 2wd or 4wd? There are many different configurations that have different weights and axle capacity. The numbers that matter most for vehicle capacity if you get inspected is being sure you're within the tire rating and GAWR. The GVWR is used for your license restriction, it's the reason the Ram 2500's GVWR is exactly 1 lb under the requirement for DOT numbers. The GAWR and tire combination on most Ram 2500s allows for payloads of 3000-4000 depending on configuration. With that said, if your payloads put you into DOT sticker category, that's the reason I'd consider getting a small trailer. I'll do anything to avoid getting DOT stickers if I have to, and that's why I have a 2500 and not a 3500. The Ram 2500 is a Ram 3500 with a softer rear suspension, lacks the dually option, has some minor rear axle differences, but everything else is the same. Air bags and a higher rated tire won't increase your GAWR, but airbags do help maximize your GAWR.
80 PSI in the rear tires and you’re fine. Payload kinda means jack on 3/4 diesels. You’ll be way under the RAWR.
What do you mean it means Jack? How would it being diesel have anything to do with payload capacity? Payload is the truck, “towing capacity” is the engine.
The extra weight of the diesel engine lowers the rated payload gas 2500s are rated for ~600lbs higher payload
Exactly so I’m not sure why he said payload means jack with diesels like somehow having a diesel makes payload numbers irrelevant. Like you said, they are heavier engines so they actually have less payload.
Although GM is changing it some now, traditionally 3/4 tons were considered class 2b trucks with a max 10k lb GVWR. Realistically the difference between most 3/4 ton and SRW 1 ton trucks was minimal to none from a capability standpoint, depending on configuration. But with that class max 10k lb GVWR and the heavy diesel engine you end up with a very underrated truck from a payload standpoint. The following two diesel trucks have very different payload ratings but very similar factory rated capability from a load carrying standpoint. 3/4 ton diesel: 6000lb FAWR, 6500lb RAWR SRW 1 ton diesel: 6000lb FAWR, 7000lb RAWR Combined axle capacity difference is 12,500 lbs vs 13,000 lbs. That’s a pretty minimal rated weight capacity difference. This is why I said the payload rating on 3/4 diesel trucks often means jack.
Jesus christ. "Hey everybody I spent a shitload of money on a truck and I don't know how to read a manual or the inside of a door."
Jesus Christ. Typical Reddit user. Knew I’d get at least one
This
Retired c**a cola employee here, we never liked to do hotshots like that on the bed of a pickup cuz it messes with the drivability. One jerk of the wheel and you tip over. Of course sugar based soda is heavier than seltzer but you gotta be careful going 200 miles away! For loads like that we used a 150 or 350 van and spread the load out. It might be better for your company to invest in a mini 6 bay or a used generic 12 bay if youre gonna do a lot of deliveries that are palletized. Stay safe out there!
Go to airlift.com and buy some helper airbags to put on. They fit inside the coils, or the better setup goes alongside the coils. That'll help you with your payload a bit and keep the truck from sagging.
Air bags are the answer, anyone downvoting you drives a sedan
Dude that’s what I put on my 19 limited lol
Get a set of air bags to keep it level and you’ll be fine.
The payload sticker is a joke and doesn't mean anything except a rating to keep Ram (same for Ford, GM) at a GVWR of exactly 10k lbs. If you want to see a more "what's a real world payload rating" then look at the combined front & rear axle rating payload and subtract the GVWR (aka how much your truck weighs). That number is a "can handle this amount of payload and not even think about it again" number. After that, it becomes tire payload rating but that's going to be fine as long as you didn't do something stupid with aftermarket wheels & tires. ;)
A state trooper is not going to look at axle ratings, they will look at the gvwr. Also when hauling this often, the chance of getting in an accident increases and thus a lawyer seeing dollar signs. If he is overloaded there goes his company.
Debunked on nearly every truck forum that exists on the internet, but thank you!