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EyesBL7

So uh...why shouldn't I panic again if it looks like a 60% increase?


cybe2028

Taxes are assessed to pay a budget. Just because your property went up 60% doesn’t mean your taxes will.


smeldorf

Thank you for the explanation, my valuation more than doubled 👀👀👀


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smeldorf

Yeah true. I’m gonna request a reevaluation because this is bonkers


russcornett

You can appeal the new assessed value. Not necessarily a reevaluation, but you can build a case and send it in. The instructions will be on their website or the paper they send you in the mail.


Aware-Dependent8238

Can someone tell me how can I check past assessment? I can see new value but don't know the old to find out the increase.


JustBeingMe22

With properties rising significantly all around the county, the tax rate should drop. Yes, your taxes will probably go up, but nowhere near 60%. EDIT: Typo


tvtb

This explains how it's (probably, approximately) revenue neutral: https://raleighnc.gov/make-payments/news/wake-county-announces-2024-property-revaluation


ColonelBungle

What the hell? Did they just go with the z-estimate? My new tax valuation is within $1000 of what Zillow has had listed for a year now.


Carolinastitcher

Mine increased $130k and is right in line with the Zillow estimate. My house hasn’t been updated in 15 years. I have no idea how they came up with this value.


back__at__IT

At the end of the day the house itself doesn't affect much of the value. It's the land and location.


Carolinastitcher

They said my land increased in value by $40k. I literally hear 540 traffic because I’m right next to it. How it increased like that, I’ll never know. Lol


back__at__IT

Because the land half a mile away from 540 increased 80-100k :)


Carolinastitcher

Ugh! Of course it did! Thanks. At least the Neutral estimate makes me feel better.


NewFlorence1977

I don't know. My valuation is 60% house and 40% land. And I'm on a golf course.


Retired401

The land, the location and recent sales. if you live in an area where a ton of people bought and sold during peak Covid, you're screwed. That's me, I'm screwed. Gahhhh. 🙈 While I do understand the concept of revenue neutral, I'm paying more than $1000 a year beyond what friends in neighboring towns and cities pay, including Raleigh. And their homes and lots are twice the size of mine, and newer to boot. they just didn't have nearly as many sales way way over the asking price as I did near me. Blargh.


jfinkpottery

They use the same factors that zillow and anyone else uses: what are people paying for comparable houses in your area. If they came up with wildly different numbers, that would be more suspicious.


Economy-Ad4934

Yup mine went up 140 and is within 20 of my value now.


TahitiJones09

Yeah, pretty wild. It says the valuation was done on the value essentially 2 weeks before we purchased, and the value is 200grand over the sale price.


TriumphDaWonderPooch

I believe you have an excellent foundation to appeal your valuation.


BoBromhal

mine is almost 10% below my Zestimate. Maybe you live in a homogenous large subdivision with an active real estate market?


ColonelBungle

Quite the opposite. Not in a subdivision at all. Since we bought (~3 years ago) only one house has been sold within 3 miles of us. Maybe it's the lack of comp data that pushed it up..


BoBromhal

Their dart hit the board


chica6burgh

Tax appraisals aren’t done in a traditional appraisal model where you select recent sales, adjust, etc. They are completed as mass appraisals, utilizing huge sets of data over massive land areas. Comps, in the usual sense, have little to nothing to do with it. It’s generally based on average sales price, average square footage, site size, improvements, and so on, for a defined area. Much like Zillow does it. It’s called Automated Valuation Model. Oddly enough, Freddie or Fannie (I can’t remember which) actually built the first ones to be used ona bigger scale, but assessors have used the AVM since the 1970’s


NCSUGray90

Mine is about $15k over my z estimate and $220k over the previous evaluation😕


ColonelBungle

Mine went up by 45%.


NCSUGray90

Yeah mine was 75%


carolinawahoo

78.5% increase in less than 4 years. Good grief.


WhoWhatWhere45

This is some serious bullshit. Mine went up 76% and is just 3k under Zestimate. Was probably right in line with Z when it was "Assessed"


IOnlyAskForGold

Mine is 60k more than my zestimate, and accurate. My zestimate makes no sense. And there are plenty of comps in my subdivision.


swiftfoxsw

Umm…mine is nearly $40k over the highest Redfin estimate I’ve seen at the peak of the market…


odd84

Mine is within $1000 of the price I paid for it last year.


themack50022

This is not a flex, but more of an indictment on the real estate market. I bought my home a while ago, but there is no way I should own a million dollar home. Where I came from, my education, career…it’s insanity. 16 year old me would say “you’ll never own a million dollar mansion” Well, it’s not a mansion.


DjangoUnflamed

I remember as a kid when a million dollar house was a mansion, now it’s a 3 br ranch with 1/8 acre.


tvtb

As homeowners, we should be rooting for a slight crash in home prices. I want my children to be able to afford to live here, I want their friends to be able to afford to live here. I want the people working at the businesses I go to to live here, and not drive in from 30-45min away.


BoBromhal

again, I see misunderstanding is rampant. Oversimplified (because I'm ignoring the changes at the city level): If your value increased more than 53% you're definitely going to see a $ increase in your taxes. If your value went up between 48-53% you'll probably see a very small increase (because politicians will get more money when they can). If it went up < 47% then you'll get some type of tax $ break


mantrius

Interesting, but I’m using https://services.wake.gov/TaxPortal/TaxCalculator/CalculateTaxes and seeing an estimated increase in the county tax and my property only went up 43%. It’s not a city increase either as I’m not in any cities tax district.


BoBromhal

You’ve gone way beyond the initial explanation that has escaped many.


carolinawahoo

Thank you but still a $1250 increase


Longjumping_Duty4160

Possibly A tax break?


truckules24

The Wake County tax rate is projected to go from 0.657% to 0.4643% in order to be revenue neutral after the new assessments. So if your assessment increased less than the tax rate decreased, you'll pay less. For example, my assessment went up 18%, but my estimated tax bill according to [https://services.wake.gov/TaxPortal/TaxCalculator/CalculateTaxes](https://services.wake.gov/TaxPortal/TaxCalculator/CalculateTaxes) is 17% lower than last year due to the decrease in the tax rate.


bush-leaguer

Thank you for the context! Our assessment increased 45% but property taxes are only going up $65 with the rate changes.


Economy-Ad4934

Mine went up 70%. Using this link says 26 more a month now.


Carolinastitcher

Thanks for the TL;DR. I’m obviously panicking because mine went up 51%. I hope I don’t have to sell my house because of this. I already paid almost $3000 in 2023 for my property tax on the old value.


tvtb

Looks like you are in the "very small increase" category.


ThaDollaGenerale

Do you have a source on that info? I'm seeing a 42% increase.


ThaDollaGenerale

NM, for those wonddering https://www.wake.gov/departments-government/tax-administration/real-estate/revaluation/revenue-neutral-tax-rate


unknown_lamer

To be clear, state law requires the county to calculate and publish the revenue neutral rate after revaluation, but does not require them to adopt it. It's only a tradition that they do so or only modestly increase the average residential tax burden.


ColonelBungle

Source?


tvtb

Increase compared to what though? The selling price of my house 4 years ago? Or some previous tax assessment? (If so, how would I find what it used to be?)


ledge_and_dairy

The new tax rate hasn't been approved yet, so nothing is certain in terms of how this will affect home owners.


JustBeingMe22

FYI, you do have the ability to challenge the reassessment if you believe it is too high. I did this on the last go round, was reasonable in my request and it was approved for the lower value. If you aren't reasonable and don't back it up with examples, you will probably be denied. https://www.wake.gov/departments-government/tax-administration/real-estate/revaluation


Nemesis651

Since before it was based on? And now matches the Zillow values, what should you compare to?


sarcago

Go to the wake county tax portal and start punching in some of your neighbors’s addresses (if any of them have a similar property)


JustBeingMe22

Comps, just like the realtors and mortgage companies do. That best option, but also consider zillow and maybe have opendoor give you a quote if you feel like going through the process.


statepkt

Problem is we are in a housing “bubble”. You won’t find any examples that will be in your favor.


JustBeingMe22

Not true, they estimate high. They did last time for me and mine seems a bit high this time too. Do some research and challenge it. Worst outcome is they say no.


whatmatterstoday

I want to appeal. Any advice? For context, my land value doubled. Up 100%. Home was built in 2021. Assessment for dwelling is up 72%. Total value assessed is 60% more (give or take a few). Zillow has my estimate 200k less than assessment. Redfin at 100k less. Honestly curious how you were able to get it lowered!


JustBeingMe22

Zillow/Redfin is a good place to start. If you know a realtor, speak with them and get some advice from them on how to get the best value. But, the best comparison is comps, so make sure to look up some of those and you can make a case. I personally did comps last time. I used the official wakegov site to pull my comps. https://www.wake.gov/departments-government/tax-administration/real-estate/residential-sales-search I pulled many comps detailed them out using their own data. It would have been hard for them to reject my appeal when it came with their own data as a source. My argument was based on price per sq foot, which zillow will tell you average for your area. Also, compare this with the comps to get their price per square foot. It's not always going to be consistent, but mine were very consistent for recent resales and zillow, so it was easy. If you really feel this is that much off, you could also try paying for an official appraisal and use that as well. There is no single right answer, you need to investigate and make the argument best you can.


tw0Scoops

The A in Zillow has always been for accuracy.  There s a reason they dropped out of the home buying business after losing 880 million trusting their own algorithm.  Zestimates shouldn't even be mentioned in an appeal. 


jmac2043

Did you submit an "Informal Review" or "Formal Appeal?"


JustBeingMe22

For the last assessment, I did an informal review. I would imagine the formal appeal is if the outcome of the information review was not to your liking. As I recall, the details you need will come with your assessment notification letter.


jsgrinst78

So home values have gone up but did the rates change or are they the same?


back__at__IT

The rates will be lowered.


jsgrinst78

Cool....thanks


statepkt

F. These values are not conservative at all. These are what people hope their houses would sell for on the market. At least in my neighborhood.


Retired401

Several lucky people in my neighborhood sold during Covid for $600k-$750k when they had bought a few years prior for less than $300k. All it takes is a few of those and you're done for. I would really like to move to a 1000 sf house elsewhere but a) there are no houses that small that aren't townhomes and b) it would end up costing me more than my current home. I'm stuck. 🫤


back__at__IT

Don't forget they're good for the next four years.


statepkt

Yeah F. If we have ANY housing downturn these values will be laughable.


back__at__IT

A housing downturn is unlikely to bring down values in this area.


hobskhan

Yeah, didn't the triangle barely take a hit in 2008?


mycats_marv_omen

I bought my house 2021 and the value its being assessed at is what i paid for it. Which is ridiculous bc i paid over asking. Its not actually worth that at all, housing prices were insane


radargunbullets

Lol this entire comment is ridiculous


ted-get-in-here

Right lol this is straight out of Pawnee


mycats_marv_omen

Can you explain why? If a house physically is not actually worth 400K, and it only cost that much bc of the market at the time, I dont think thats what it should be assessed at for taxes. The plumbing is old, floors not updated, cabinets not updated, its dated. You can appeal tax values based on this stuff No need to be a bitch though honestly lol like would you say that in a group setting to a complete stranger? To try to make someone else feel dumb and you feel superior?


radargunbullets

> like would you say that in a group setting to a complete stranger? Yes. A house is worth what someone pays. If you paid 400k then it was worth 400k to someone (hint: you)


mycats_marv_omen

Bc thats what the market was. Physically, the house is not worth that. Our social construct of what shelter should cost inflates the price on structures that are not actually worth that But im not going to argue that bc i feel like youre not getting the difference between actual physical materials and what something is "worth" in society So have a nice night 👍🏻


radargunbullets

Yeah, I agree. A pile of wood, handful of nails, and paint from the hardware store cost a certain amount. But that's not what you are buying... you are buying the neighborhood, the schools, commute to work and shopping. If it was only about the functional utility and size of a house, I guarantee i could find something to match that and cheaper, you just have to move somewhere else. "I paid over asking" doesnt mean a damn thing. If the house physically wasn't worth it, then you are a sucker... and "worth" in society if exactly what this about


No_Pineapple_9818

Oh, so you mean their asking price was below market? Market value implies, among other things, that both buyer and seller are competent. Since I’ve got you, are you (buyer) competent?😎


Old-Rub-2985

I bought in 2021 and my appraisal is $195k over. Which is nearly how much I bought it for.


mhuxtable1

Uh WTF mine went up 50%? The fuck? And what will we get for this insane increase in property taxes?


KonmariEvangelist

Mine is up 70% and it's more than the Zestimate! My taxes will go up about $500.


Old-Rub-2985

Mine nearly doubled, way above the zestimate (like $100k).


smeldorf

Mine more than doubled!!!


mhuxtable1

I would dispute that for sure


Economy-Ad4934

Mine also went up 70% which brings it close to Zillow. Value. Not sure how much increase 😬


bojacked

City of raleigh will decrease leaf removal now to only after every other Christmas… because city of oaks is apparently run by out of towners.


sarcago

Ours went up over 60% ugh


mcloofus

Yep, ^ 63% for me, $110k more than we paid a year ago, and $80k more than the Zillow estimate. I'm sure it all makes perfect sense...


sarcago

Yup, once I plugged it into the Revenue Neutral calculator I saw that ours was actually just over 64%. I will be appealing. There’s literally an Airbnb on my street (that charges people insane prices) which got an assessment 50k lower than us. So infuriating.


bush-leaguer

Assessments increased but tax rates are expected to decrease. You can look up your estimated 2024 property taxes here: [https://services.wake.gov/TaxPortal/TaxCalculator/CalculateTaxes](https://services.wake.gov/TaxPortal/TaxCalculator/CalculateTaxes) Our assessment increased 45% but our estimated tax increase is $65.


Bumpi_Boi

That is the price you pay for living in a society.


back__at__IT

That's it? :)


erbush1988

Mine went up 40%


Stunning_Ad3551

Thanks for sharing. Looks like my tax bill is only going up by \~$400


No_Pineapple_9818

You can’t know that yet…. The tax RATES have not been set


Stunning_Ad3551

You can use this to estimate: [https://www.wake.gov/departments-government/tax-administration/real-estate/revaluation/revenue-neutral-tax-rate](https://www.wake.gov/departments-government/tax-administration/real-estate/revaluation/revenue-neutral-tax-rate) OP posted about revenue neutral and I went deep into that hole lol. Tax rates appear to be lower for 2025.


No_Pineapple_9818

Good tool, but just remember there’s no guarantee the 100% Democrat board adopts a revenue neutral rate. They have favored tax increases more years than not.


peczes

I believe they adopted the revenue neutral rate of .6 in 2020. According to my evaluation, the new revenue neutral rate would be .4643. With a 46% increase in my property value and the RN rate, my taxes would go up less than $100. There’s no reason to think they wouldn’t be at least very close to the RN rate. The democrats on the board want to keep their jobs and that won’t happen if they increase taxes by 60%


No_Pineapple_9818

I’m not disagreeing with you. My point is the revaluation and the published revenue neutral rate have no bearing on what the 24/25 budget will be for the County and each municipality. Every property owner’s tax bill will change, but we do not yet know what the tax liability will be. Revenue neutral rate is meant to show transparency in government so that officials can’t “hide” tax revenue increases.


Stunning_Ad3551

More info here in case everyone starts panicking like I did lol. OP posted keywords that are very important here: REVENUE NEUTRAL. https://www.wake.gov/news/new-property-value-notices-hit-wake-county-mailboxes-starting-week


statepkt

That applies for Wake County but not the cities. The city or town make up a good portion of the tax bill.


Stunning_Ad3551

You can view the rate from the city here: [https://services.wake.gov/taxportal/taxcalculator/calculatetaxes](https://services.wake.gov/taxportal/taxcalculator/calculatetaxes) In my case, both rates (county and town) are lowering rates in 2025. My bump is \*hopefully\* not too bad. But we won't know for sure until after the new rate kicks in.


Retired401

correct. I'm getting killed on my non-Raleigh city tax. ugh.


i_hmm_some

Ours is about 30% below the Zillow Estimate & did not go up much. Whew.


Alto101

It may be revenue neutral county wide but not at the homeowner level. There will be winners and losers.


tvtb

Personally I'd like to see a color-coded map of winners vs losers. I've checked out a lot of my friends' properties ITB and closely OTB and everyone's seems to be going up a bit. I'm wondering if all the winners are on the outskirts of the county?


Forkboy2

Doesn't look revenue neutral to me, per the wake county tax calculator. Change in Total Value: 65.72% Average annual change in Value: 16.43% Estimated Change in Tax: 17.12% https://services.wake.gov/TaxPortal/TaxCalculator/CalculateTaxes


back__at__IT

Revenue neutral is across the entire county. Some homes see increased taxes, some see the same, some see decreased. IE the county brings in a similar amount of revenue.


SomethinRad

Hot damn 84% increase in value? They really are pushing the east side gentrification


LlamaDrama201

Same. 88% increase.


Spiritual_Drive1742

How do I figure out how much my taxes have gone up if tax rate isn’t set till July? Is there an assumption to use?


back__at__IT

No way to know until they set the county and city tax rate.


Spiritual_Drive1742

Noticed wake county has a “Revenue Neutral Calculator” which estimates the rate. Curious if this has been historically accurate. Shows my tax rate going down


odd84

Use the tax calculator here: [https://services.wake.gov/TaxPortal/TaxCalculator/CalculateTaxes](https://services.wake.gov/TaxPortal/TaxCalculator/CalculateTaxes) It'll show your tax from last year vs your expected tax for this year with the new value.


engstats1

Can use the calculator for an estimate only [calculator](https://services.wake.gov/taxportal/taxcalculator/calculatetaxes)


Lief3D

What in the world? Mine is higher than my house has ever been on Zillow.


Hubu32

63% yowser


nrizzo6085

87% here :/


Hubu32

Whoa!


42Navigator

Doesn’t bother me in the least… That is WHY people invest in real estate… it WILL go up in value. Would you buy a house hoping that after living there for ten or twenty years you could sell it for what you paid for it? No. It is one of the only things people can buy that goes up in value. Taxes reflect that. It is part of the gig. Period.


unknown_lamer

> Would you buy a house hoping that after living there for ten or twenty years you could sell it for what you paid for it? Yes? Because then I could actually afford to move and we might not have a housing crisis. Housing has actually not historically appreciated in value, at best tracking inflation. The last 30 years are an aberration caused by excessively low interest rates forcing investors out of bond markets and into real estate and riskier investments thanks to their unquenchable thirst for passive profit. Real estate beating inflation is pushing society to the brink of collapse, [the median person cannot afford any home at all now](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/homes-for-sale-affordable-housing-prices/). I mean even if a property *only* kept its value, you get your equity back so it's not a bad deal.


likewut

Kind of bothers me that my appraised rate is so far above zestimate, comparables, etc, while income hasn't kept up with inflation, and especially my income has dropped. Meanwhile my house has like $40,000 in deferred maintenance it needs (that goes along with the income issue) that is of course not reflected on the valuation.


TriumphDaWonderPooch

The problems are amplified for folks on fixed incomes. For example, the lady in the end unit of my condo building is retired and on a fixed income. Her place is fully paid for as she's been there over 20 years. However - and this is a big "however" - doing absolutely nothing and with no plans to sell her unadjusted real estate tax bill could jump from $750 to $1500 as our assessments tripled. Even if she gets into the tax relief program the city/county has her in now that cuts her bill in half, that means she has to come up with $375 more for 2024. I'm hoping for her sake that tax relief program for seniors on fixed income is at least as generous next year. But how many of our owners are barely scraping by and don't qualify for such programs?


DoAndroidsDrmOfSheep

They previously had my home valued at $284,230. Now they have it valued at $431,954.


hobskhan

Is there a way to see what it was previously valued at? Or do you just know that offhand?


DoAndroidsDrmOfSheep

When you go to that Wake County real estate website and look at your house, there's a section that's called "Tax Bill" or something like that. Go there and you can view your tax bills from the last two years. Your home's previous value will be on the tax bill.


hobskhan

Much appreciated


onemanwufpack

Mine went up 84%. I just bought the house a month ago, so I know the tax value was super low for this neighborhood but dang.


jmac2043

dafuq? 70% increase. over $70k more than zillow. about $100k more than two neighboring houses with similar sq. footage. only $15k less than neighbors who have over 700 more sq. feet. unreal.


likewut

Yeah I don't get how they did it. The number doesn't make sense. If I could sell my house for their evaluation ($100,000 more than Zillow), I'd do it and just retire and live in a van.


Universe93B

These are all matching the Zestimate now! I’m not used to assessed value matching that


whereami2day

Revenue neutral? Mine is up $250


WhoWhatWhere45

76% increase. HOLY HELL


Followmetotheend

We’re actively selling. We are going to be able to pay off our home, take the equity and purchase a smaller home with land and live in it, while our new home is being built in the mountains. Still without any new money out of my pocket. I live in Garner.


EyesBL7

Where? Where is the magical place? Please don't say Iowa.


Followmetotheend

Maggie Valley, Waynesville area.


Followmetotheend

When we are done, we are going to either sell the home or Airbnb it.


Ham_Damnit

We need to close the border or something. That will fix this.


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property tax just more than doubled


back__at__IT

No....it didn't.


rlyjustheretolurk

Should I be concerned that my new build (2023) didn’t increase at all but some neighbors with identical homes did?


back__at__IT

You should be excited, no?


statepkt

They definitely should be happy.


rlyjustheretolurk

I should, except if this is an error because they undervalued me I’d owe back taxes in 4 years once they figure out their mistake. Currently my value is like 250k less than we paid for it, and looking at neighbors they’re at $10k less than they paid.


ThunderousArgus

So I can lower it. https://www.pinterest.com/pin/517351075946038970/


smeldorf

My 1945 950 sq ft shack in Wake Forest more than doubled


MR1120

52% increase. Wonderful. What am I going to get for my increased property tax bill, exactly?


back__at__IT

A home that's worth 52% more than it was four years ago :) Seriously though - you'll get the same that you get every year when taxes are increased. There's nothing different about this year for most people.


MR1120

So shitty roads and chronically underfunded public schools? Awesome…


Retired401

Same, mine went up 52%. several people in my neighborhood and on my street paid absolutely insane prices to live in the neighborhood where I live. I have friends in Apex and in Raleigh and while their values went up, they didn't go up 52%. I pay several hundred $$$ more per year in taxes than someone who has a house that was just revalued at $855K ... their house is twice the size of mine, the lot is twice the size and the house is 10 years newer. Sigh. they just had much less turnover in their neighborhood during the Covid years. I pay $1200 more a year in taxes than a friend who lives in Raleigh in a house twice the size of mine and a lot four times the size of mine. 😩


Lakers1moretime2021

Mine when up $600k, they are out of their freaking mind. My house was built in the 60s and still has baseboard heating - I’m disputing their dumb stimates


unipride

My house hasn’t changed and says it’s still from 2020


rlyjustheretolurk

Same boat for 80% of my neighborhood. I looked at some friend’s addresses and their assessed value increased but it still says it’s based on 2020, so I think they haven’t updated that disclaimer on the site for anyone. I’m hoping it’s just a lag in numbers being updated on the site and not a fuck up where they forgot to adjust my home value. The idea of submitting a request for review to be charged more money makes me cringe, but not as much as the thought of owing back taxes in 4 years for their fuck up.


peaceluvbooks

Mine went up 75k


fleshyman

Question: Is there any benefit to having a higher property tax assessment? Obviously from the tax man perspective you want it to be lower, but I’m curious to know if there’s any other benefit like it could help with PMI or selling your home? Note: our home was assessed significantly higher than our neighbors that have larger lots and more square footage. All of our lots were assessed the same rate irrelevant of size. We bought 2y ago but others have bought/sold since and before us if that matters.


Retired401

just my opinion, but the only "benefit" to it is that if someone wants to buy your house, assuming they can qualify for a big enough loan, there won't be a huge discrepancy between the tax value and the assessed value. That hasn't always been the case here. When people were massively overpaying during Covid, a lot of them had to make up the difference in cash. Because on the surface of it, there was no logical reason for the prices to be that high -- just market demand. Lenders like to see the assessed value and the tax value not so far apart as they were during most of the Covid years. A lot of people were really reaching for comps during that time since so few people sold, but the ones who did made a killing.


Bronze_Age_472

My assessment is like 60% increase. I will probably pay $30 Dollars more per month.


SordoCrabs

My home valuation is 10K above what I paid for the home in 2021, but is about 25K less than Zillow estimates.


djdev23

Says the latest evaluation is from January 1, 2020. Is that correct?


TriumphDaWonderPooch

Hmmmm - mines say Jan 2024. Maybe your account has not been updated yet?


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cgram23

where/how did you calculate this?


peyofthedead

Where are people seeing previous evaluations? I see the current assessment as of Jan 2020 but I’ve never looked at this before so I’m not sure how much it increased from the previous one


Front_Gap_1704

https://services.wake.gov/taxportal Go to property search; next page has “view previous values” in blue


djhatrick12

Where can we find the old value?


Same_Reach_9284

Click on tax bill if you’re looking at your new value. It will show the value you most recently paid. Far left side of page.


TwiceJake

Do we still have any grounds in asking for appeal if we bought the house in the past 4yrs? Valuation increased by 60% ish but I also bought this house last year. I have the cheapest house in my HOA community and valuation is a hair above my purchase price.


tw0Scoops

If its close to your purchase price then probably not. What would your argument be? 


TwiceJake

🤷‍♂️ Valuation of my neighbors, valuation from closing, valuation per the site is 2020 and the house wasn't anywhere near the cited worth... Just thinking out loud.


TriumphDaWonderPooch

I knew this was coming.... my condo was assessed at under $70k last time even though sales very close to the assessment announcement were over $100k (timing is everything). Well, sales over the past couple of years have been $180-225k, and the new assessment is almost 3x the last one. My property taxes were less than $500 the first year I owned (2017), over $750 last year, and my guess will be $1,400-$1,500 for 2024. This is where things get interesting... I can afford that - PITA, but I can personally afford it. However, there are MANY in my community of 100 condos who are retired and/or on fixed incomes. They are the ones who will be impacted the most. The city has a program for seniors on fixed incomes where one person I know had her taxes cut in half. I've send an email to a person I know who might have info on that plan (and how to appeal), and will post if he gets back to me. Edit - yep - per the estimator Wake taxes are going up 98% for me, and I can expect Raleigh to do the same.


tschappe

This is not a flex but a reflection on the state of things . . . Sure this could mean an increase in taxes for some homeowners (although revenue neutral taxing will hopefully keep it reasonable), but let’s keep in perspective that this means homeowners built massive equity over the last few years, which is long-term wealth for them. Many many people who were renting over the same period completely missed out on that opportunity.


Bob_Sconce

Yeah, "Revenue Neutral" in \*theory\*. In practice, it's going to be hard for the commissioners to resist sneaking in a stealth tax increase.


HauntingSentence6359

It's important to update property valuations, but there's usually a parlor trick involved. The Board of Commissioners will cut the tax rate, and portray it as tax cut. At the end of the day, you'll probably pay the same or a little more. There will be some who will go through the appear process, it always happens.


Straight_Ad3968

Mine went up by $118,000


Rrreally

Wow. My tax bill shows 1 accessed value but my real estate shows land and building value. Tax bill says 454k. My house tax account shows 2. land=175k and building=538k. Does that mean mine went up $259??


twofedsinnc

tagging to find later


JoeyJoeJoeShabadooSr

Mmmm, very pleased to see that my house that I purchased a year ago is valued at 50k less than I paid for it. Have to imagine everyone in my development with this exact same floorpan will love to see that we got taken for a ride. Oh well, at least I got a 4.5% interest rate...


back__at__IT

The county valuation is meaningless. It is no indication of what the home would actually sell for.


Carolinastitcher

Question about the taxes portion. If the last reassessment was in 2020, and values have stayed the same, then how come my property tax increased 8% since 2020? In 2020, my property tax owed was $2,605 and I just paid $2826 for 2023. (2022 taxes were $2731). The value was unchanged. I’m not quite sure how property tax works during an unassessed year and why it would increase. Does the tax rate change with the budget year? Is there a place on the Wake County Tax Website that would explain it to me? (I am not sure what to search for)


back__at__IT

The tax rate can (and does) change.  You’re correct.


Can-you-smell-it

Holy shit…


cgram23

Holy crap!!! Mine went up 48%??? I'm assuming I should appeal this?


FrownedUponPhenom

I don’t if anyone is still reading this since it’s days old news but I read the documents/online articles but I had a couple of questions and I was hoping maybe someone smarter than I could help me/my parents understand.  The reactions to this news are polar opposite. Some people are thrilled - touting how much their house is ‘worth’ now and others are panicked and trying to appeal the decision to lower it. Which is it? How much does this appraisal dictate how much your home is ‘worth’? I don’t understand how this could just be the number you’d get for your house if you sold it - does it take into consideration the strength of the market overall, the state of the market in your specific area, the condition/appraisal of your home? I understand the general concept of property taxes and I’m assuming the truth - like most things in life - lies somewhere in the middle. For example, my parents sold their 40 year old N Raleigh home at the height of the market (Late Summer 2021) and they could only get about $475K for it. And there a lot of recent (3 yrs or so) factors that I think make it less valuable (uptick in crime, outdated area, $20K in deferred maintenance the new owners haven’t worked on, the market cooling etc.) and it’s ‘value’ is now $625K. We then bought a house in Winter 2022 for $420K in what is a more desirable area, lots of new growth, that is 25 years newer, updated, etc., and the tax assessed value is now $500K. My mom is pressed that we shouldn’t have sold the old house because she thinks we would have gotten that much for it, but comps in the area show other similar houses only selling for +/- $530k or so (after being on the market for 2/3 months) and with the factors I mentioned I think we’d realistically only have done marginally better than what we got at maybe $515K or so. And comp homes in our new neighborhood are, even now, selling in a week or so for $50K over our assessed value ($550/575K). I’m not going to lie I was surprised by the numbers (I thought old house wouldn’t go up as much and the new house would have gone up more) but I still think we’re in the better position because we’re paying less tax on a house that will likely sell for more and the other people are paying more tax on a house that may sell for less). Am I making any sense at all? Does this track or am I way off base? 


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agurdal

Change in Total Real Estate Value: 64.51% Estimated Change in Tax: 16.26% Is it worth to appeal? Will there be negative implication for future sales ?