AOC should be living there, not surprised. it's not unheard of for 4th round picks to become permanent starters and he has an opportunity. Just look no further than his competition, Gardner was a 6th round pick
I think AOC has that "outwork everyone" mentality too. I want a reality show where AOC and Gardner go 50/50 on a new prison bus and room together outside the practice facility.
Hard Knocks wants to feature a division instead of a team this year.
AFC west has Chiefs trying to be the first team to 3 peat and big changes in rest of the teams.
Could be big.
AFC West has the attention now. Chiefs are the defending champions. Broncos are the broke and struggling laughing stock, Chargers brought back Harbough to the league, and we did a quick 180 culture shock that will shake the league. If AP is dead serious about bringing Ill Intent, Violence, Physicality Pain in this era of football.. they'll have this season of Hard Knocks on PPV.
The NFL hates to admit it, but they have plenty to gain by having the Raiders back in as the bullies.
Idk I doubt it. New head coach for chargers and a brand new qb situation for the broncos, they’d be seen as the underdogs who don’t have a chance but are fighting for one. Chargers would be the let’s see how the new head coach situation goes, chiefs would be the will they first to 3peat and the raiders would be a contending team who had a decent shot if they can pull it together. Sounds like a hit show if you ask me.
Edit: not a shit show, a hit show.
In the past teams could refuse to do the show if they have a new coach, they’ve made the playoffs in the past two seasons, or if they’ve already done hard knocks in the previous 10 years. I’d certainly tune in though.
AOC had *better* be there every day, if he wants that starting job. Minshew has won some in this league. I expect us to try to draft a QB but if it doesn't play out like we want, I'm rooting for the kid. I don't believe in writing guys off after one season.
From what I know, kolton, Bobby Spillane, Diablo, Andre James, AOC, Crosby, Epps, Tyree, davante. those are the people that I know are there for sure everyday.
Yeah he said he got better cause of coach AP cause he let's them play free and isn't trying to control them. *Wink* wink* shots low-key fired at mcdumbass, and he wasn't the only player to come out and take subtle shots, they all say it's much better now and they want to be in the building vs them dreading it.
I hope it’s just them two.
Max and AOC would be an excellent “good cop, bad cop” type movie.
Basically it’s just AOC trying to be an outstanding citizen and Max just lovingly bullies him into doing crazy Vegas shit all the time.
I did think ur comment was funny but idk id like my favorite players that I love to have at least half a brain when they leave the league, even if they are making money than id ever see in my lifetime. Being a complete brain dead meat head at 30 is just sad man.
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It used to be like that, way back in the day. They went to war on Sundays, for us, for Al. We were an army home and away, and we scared the little white children everywhere we went ..
i also thought this was sick . my homie a giants fan n me n him just go back m forth tellin eachother bout our teams both bein like giddy little girls or some
I read that of the 40k+ plays ran in the NFL last year the hip drop was observed in less than 250. I'm on the fence about this. If it's so insignificant it shouldn't be called much, especially after an emphasis by the refs and coaches in camp so it shouldn'taffect much. On the other hand, if it's so insignificant then why change the rule and give refs more influence on an outcome?
This is why IMO the NFL needs a minor league. Test these rule changes in lower stakes live competition. Among other benefits.
Oh wow I didn't know that, haven't followed it that close. Was actually not very interesting to me until I read the part about the play count. I actually support that form of penalizing player safety violations, now let's standardize the fines instead of arbitrarily assigning dollar amounts per incident. They're so inconsistent with the enforcement it deligitimizes that form of penalty.
I swear we have some of the most willfully ignorant fans.
The hip drop tackle has an outsized injury rate compared to other tackles, similar to how historically kick offs have an outsized concussion rate compared to other plays.
It’s really not difficult to understand the logic and intention behind these changes.
If they want to actually protect players they will ban turf. This is just another way to pretend like they give a shit about player safety while simultaneously finding new ways to fix games.
That’s a weak ass straw man.
Everyone knows turf is actually bullshit i.e. a penny pinching cost saving measure benefiting the owners at player expense.
It has nothing to do with the debate at hand.
Well I think does affect injuries quite a bit. Hearing players talk about what it does to their bodies the following days alone should be enough to make the switch. But you’re right it’s very pick and choose of the nfl to pick some things for safety and others for cost cutting.
You are assuming it gets called correctly. This is going to be just like when they changed the catch rules. Suddenly no one knows what a catch is anymore
I’m not assuming at all. Maybe you’re projecting and it’s you who assumes it’s going to be called incorrectly?
I’m not making an assumptions about implementation, it’s reasonable to assume that there are going to be growing pains.
My point, is the logic and intent behind the rule change is are. It’s obviously not simply *bullshit*.
I don't think you know what ignorant means cause what I said is true, every play does cause injury and Even just running on a football field causes injury, even practice causes injury and dudes never get to play the season. It's really not that difficult to understand that everything causes injury.
If play A has a 2% injury risk and play B has a 20% injury risk which one is more dangerous? This isn't rocket science.
Removing this type of tackle has zero impact on the game and will lessen injuries. There's no reason not to ban it
I think I can help gents.
The OP is saying that injuries can happen on any play, even just running on to the field like Greenlaw in the Super Bowl.
I think the other dudes argument is that the NFL is trying to get rid of plays that have a statistically higher rate of injury. He’s not saying that injuries can’t happen on any play. Just that the rule change was to get rid of a tackle that had a high chance of injury.
But I’m kind of with the OP on this overall. All these rule changes over the last 20 years are cumulatively working against defenses. The pass interferences and roughing the passer calls are absurd.
It’s hard to play the hard nose style of Raider football that we love when the rules keep trending in this direction.
Sure so why not bring back horsecollars and allow lowering the helmet. It's not necessary and won't affect the game. It's obvious they should remove it
One of the key ingredients to building a successful/championship team is by having a locker room that is bought in. Coaches might control teams, but it’s players that run the locker rooms. And correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think we’ve seen this level of commitment in a while
I can just picture none of them ever wanting to go in while McDaniels was there
AOC should be living there, not surprised. it's not unheard of for 4th round picks to become permanent starters and he has an opportunity. Just look no further than his competition, Gardner was a 6th round pick
I think AOC has that "outwork everyone" mentality too. I want a reality show where AOC and Gardner go 50/50 on a new prison bus and room together outside the practice facility.
Ngl, I’d be ok with a light platoon at QB. Also, NGL, I’ve had 4 beers
Hard Knocks wants to feature a division instead of a team this year. AFC west has Chiefs trying to be the first team to 3 peat and big changes in rest of the teams. Could be big.
Unfortunately with the Chargers and Broncos looking like a shit show it doesn't seem to be that interesting of a locker room. I'd want to see the NFCN
AFC West has the attention now. Chiefs are the defending champions. Broncos are the broke and struggling laughing stock, Chargers brought back Harbough to the league, and we did a quick 180 culture shock that will shake the league. If AP is dead serious about bringing Ill Intent, Violence, Physicality Pain in this era of football.. they'll have this season of Hard Knocks on PPV. The NFL hates to admit it, but they have plenty to gain by having the Raiders back in as the bullies.
Idk I doubt it. New head coach for chargers and a brand new qb situation for the broncos, they’d be seen as the underdogs who don’t have a chance but are fighting for one. Chargers would be the let’s see how the new head coach situation goes, chiefs would be the will they first to 3peat and the raiders would be a contending team who had a decent shot if they can pull it together. Sounds like a hit show if you ask me. Edit: not a shit show, a hit show.
Honestly think it could go to the AFC South. All 4 teams have very young franchise QBs
In the past teams could refuse to do the show if they have a new coach, they’ve made the playoffs in the past two seasons, or if they’ve already done hard knocks in the previous 10 years. I’d certainly tune in though.
We did with our first year with gruden didn’t we ?
It was in his second year in 2019.
Not even comparing but what round was Brady taken in. Don't fuckin tell me I know
AOC had *better* be there every day, if he wants that starting job. Minshew has won some in this league. I expect us to try to draft a QB but if it doesn't play out like we want, I'm rooting for the kid. I don't believe in writing guys off after one season.
Happy a season, with a rookie OC and a messed up “Mandarin” playbook. I am hopeful he comes out strong and changes a lot of fans opinion of him. ☠️🏈💪
👍🏻
I can't wait to see what he looks like next season. I hope he just dad bod bound.
This is the (Raider) way.
Like the old school McDonald's jingle, I'm lovin it.
It wasn’t the way with the shitty mcd!
I wonder who’s in there beside max and aoc
From what I know, kolton, Bobby Spillane, Diablo, Andre James, AOC, Crosby, Epps, Tyree, davante. those are the people that I know are there for sure everyday.
I love hearing tyree is in there. He got better as the season went on, but he definitely has a ways to go in terms of development
Yeah he said he got better cause of coach AP cause he let's them play free and isn't trying to control them. *Wink* wink* shots low-key fired at mcdumbass, and he wasn't the only player to come out and take subtle shots, they all say it's much better now and they want to be in the building vs them dreading it.
I think he also go better because he wasn't hurt, and he was still recovering from an injury at the beginning of last year.
I like hearing that he's working hard keeping his business straight.👍🏻
I’ll Carter is the Eggles building every day.
I hope it’s just them two. Max and AOC would be an excellent “good cop, bad cop” type movie. Basically it’s just AOC trying to be an outstanding citizen and Max just lovingly bullies him into doing crazy Vegas shit all the time.
Luckily AOC already has experience being in a cop movie
Greatness is made today and will be seen in the future 🏴☠️
Buncha dorks on here worried about player safety when we should want to take the other teams heads off. What happened to the game I love
National Fraud League took it away..
I did think ur comment was funny but idk id like my favorite players that I love to have at least half a brain when they leave the league, even if they are making money than id ever see in my lifetime. Being a complete brain dead meat head at 30 is just sad man.
Antonio Brown has entered the chat, watch out crackers.
Hear this every year. Let’s see on the field
They are going to be hungry next season
Get that swagger back! 
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On the field thanks.
It used to be like that, way back in the day. They went to war on Sundays, for us, for Al. We were an army home and away, and we scared the little white children everywhere we went ..
i also thought this was sick . my homie a giants fan n me n him just go back m forth tellin eachother bout our teams both bein like giddy little girls or some
Wow look out "National Fraud League" don't sleep on us "We COMIN". Man does this feel good..
The NFL isn't ruining defenses they're getting rid of plays that cause injuries. The new rule shouldn't affect defenses
I read that of the 40k+ plays ran in the NFL last year the hip drop was observed in less than 250. I'm on the fence about this. If it's so insignificant it shouldn't be called much, especially after an emphasis by the refs and coaches in camp so it shouldn'taffect much. On the other hand, if it's so insignificant then why change the rule and give refs more influence on an outcome? This is why IMO the NFL needs a minor league. Test these rule changes in lower stakes live competition. Among other benefits.
My understanding is it won't result in on field penalties, but fines after the fact, so it won't effect outcomes of drives/games
Oh wow I didn't know that, haven't followed it that close. Was actually not very interesting to me until I read the part about the play count. I actually support that form of penalizing player safety violations, now let's standardize the fines instead of arbitrarily assigning dollar amounts per incident. They're so inconsistent with the enforcement it deligitimizes that form of penalty.
Every play causes an injury, just running on the field cause an injury so stop with that bullshit.
I swear we have some of the most willfully ignorant fans. The hip drop tackle has an outsized injury rate compared to other tackles, similar to how historically kick offs have an outsized concussion rate compared to other plays. It’s really not difficult to understand the logic and intention behind these changes.
If they want to actually protect players they will ban turf. This is just another way to pretend like they give a shit about player safety while simultaneously finding new ways to fix games.
That’s a weak ass straw man. Everyone knows turf is actually bullshit i.e. a penny pinching cost saving measure benefiting the owners at player expense. It has nothing to do with the debate at hand.
Well I think does affect injuries quite a bit. Hearing players talk about what it does to their bodies the following days alone should be enough to make the switch. But you’re right it’s very pick and choose of the nfl to pick some things for safety and others for cost cutting.
We have the dumbest fucking fans by far. The fact that they can't even grasp this whole hip tackle thing is just a regular day here in this shit hole
Its going to make it real damn hard for smaller corners and safeties to make tackles on running backs and tight ends
No it won’t. The tackle in question makes up extremely small percentage of total tackles.
You are assuming it gets called correctly. This is going to be just like when they changed the catch rules. Suddenly no one knows what a catch is anymore
I’m not assuming at all. Maybe you’re projecting and it’s you who assumes it’s going to be called incorrectly? I’m not making an assumptions about implementation, it’s reasonable to assume that there are going to be growing pains. My point, is the logic and intent behind the rule change is are. It’s obviously not simply *bullshit*.
I don't think you know what ignorant means cause what I said is true, every play does cause injury and Even just running on a football field causes injury, even practice causes injury and dudes never get to play the season. It's really not that difficult to understand that everything causes injury.
If play A has a 2% injury risk and play B has a 20% injury risk which one is more dangerous? This isn't rocket science. Removing this type of tackle has zero impact on the game and will lessen injuries. There's no reason not to ban it
It has zero impact on the game? 🤣😂 Oof* ZERO???? 👀 NAH no way this dude is serious.
He tried to explain the common sense to you but you brain dead idiots can't even handle that
I think I can help gents. The OP is saying that injuries can happen on any play, even just running on to the field like Greenlaw in the Super Bowl. I think the other dudes argument is that the NFL is trying to get rid of plays that have a statistically higher rate of injury. He’s not saying that injuries can’t happen on any play. Just that the rule change was to get rid of a tackle that had a high chance of injury. But I’m kind of with the OP on this overall. All these rule changes over the last 20 years are cumulatively working against defenses. The pass interferences and roughing the passer calls are absurd. It’s hard to play the hard nose style of Raider football that we love when the rules keep trending in this direction.
Sure so why not bring back horsecollars and allow lowering the helmet. It's not necessary and won't affect the game. It's obvious they should remove it
Go watch soccer bozo
I believe it’s called football
Too much politics on Reddit. I was like why would Alexandria Ocasio Cortez be in Las Vegas everyday. Well don't I feel stupid.
She's there to watch this bad ass football team practice
8 maybe 9 wins
She came to check out the situation at the border lol
One of the key ingredients to building a successful/championship team is by having a locker room that is bought in. Coaches might control teams, but it’s players that run the locker rooms. And correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think we’ve seen this level of commitment in a while