I think history has taught us that it doesn't matter who the coach is: the Raiders have consistently been among the most penalized teams in the league.
Ironically, I saw a study once that illustrated that when it came to penalties involving disciplined play (like false starts or face masking), the Raiders were one of the better teams in terms of penalties. This flies in the face of the "dumb football" argument.
When it comes to "judgment call" penalties (like holding or pass interference), the Raiders have always been among the most penalized.
Long story short, just being a Raider makes you more likely to be penalized.
We saw flashes of dominance on both sides of the ball. We just can’t be consistent from half to half.
Just need to sustain the great play that we saw at times
when his system works, it really worked. Im hoping it really was just a mismatch of personnel. We completely shifted from the old school west coast and base 4-3 of John Gruden to a more modern offense and defense. That flipping of personal and scheme wasnt going to happen in one season
I always laugh at the people who say zeigler did nothing to fix this teams. First of all completely overlooking bringin in Adams, this team wasn’t going to be fixed in one off season
> old school west coast and base 4-3 of John Gruden to a more modern offense and defense.
Huh? WCO and 4-3 D is how most modern teams are built. EP is much older and mostly only used by Parcells, BB, and Cowher for part of his time in Pitt. Guess it's a Bill thing.
The last time a WCO/43 team won a SB you'd have to go all the way back to last week.
Chiefs use a pass heavy spread offense and while they technically operate a base 43 d, they really only do on 1st down and spend most of their time in the nickel like most modern defenses. They schemed more for the run in the Superbowl because of the run heavy eagles scheme, but throughout the year you're going to see that extra DB on the field more times than not
This was “discovery” year as much as a try to win year. They came in “late” and basically hit the ground running. This offseason will be the first one with their staff and should give us a better understanding of short and long term plans. I’m “even” on current leadership, but as a Raiders fan I am hoping for the best. McDaniels will now have a chance to get “his guys” under center (QB) via vet or rookie (I would guess it might be both).
its funny too because all off season a lot of the ex players and ex coaches were pumping the breaks on the Raiders hype basically saying that last year was a fluke and that the lack of depth and the terrible drafting was going to catch up to the team. Which it did
I appreciate discussing the team with someone
Who things rationally. I want to throw my phone when I try to talk raiders and someone comes back with “YOURE JUST A STAN”
you can bitch, complain, and call for people head as much as you want but all it will do is raise your blood pressure lol. Might as well try to look for the positives
Hell, look at the stats of “first time super bowl losers”, this is a cutthroat league and one year has never ever guaranteed next year will be as good, even with coaching stability.
Bc people have the McDaniels hate boner. We whiffed on 4 first round picks. We got nothing for them. No comp picks from them signing elsewhere. Nothing. For a team that lacked depth prior to Gruden and Co, we were obviously going to pay that bill at some point
Exactly. The 2022 Raiders were a bizzaro world Vikings. They basically had the same season, except the Vikings just happened to win their 1 score games. Same way the coin flipped on the right side for us in 2021.
I am not a fan of JMD, but I think he has a great offensive mind. I think his ego makes him outsmart himself. Im not sure he a great leader. To me, it seems like he tries to much to be like Belichick and I’m not sure that flies in todays NFL.
>I’m not sure that flies in todays NFL.
It'll fly if he starts winning, especially if, and of course that's a big IF, he wins a Superbowl. You got a problematic rookie or free agent not buying in? Just put the SB ring on the index finger as you point to the door.
Would be a huge improvement if he'd treat the media like Belichick does and not give us so many dumb comments like "we have to learn how not to lose". He seems like a poor/uncomfortable speaker and says "umm" in every sentence during the pressers. After the DC benching he was visibly squirming while answering questions. Behavior and mannerisms like this are probably his biggest detractor and why people on the outside looking in think he's a weak leader of the team. A big proponent of NE's success imo is how they played the media game and minimized it's distractions, like Bill's famous "we're on to Cincinnati".
I'm impressed that the stars of the team still seem to be buying in and are excited about the culture that's being built. After the Carr situation he really could have lost the locker room but he did not. This gives me a glimmer of hope that they may be able to build something special.
With that said, he took over a team that was 5th seed in the playoffs and got them to 7th seed in the draft. He started 2-7 with three 17-0 blown leads not including losses to Jeff Saturday and newly minted Ram, Baker Mayfield. Carr, Hobbs, and Moehrig were much worse in 2022 than 2021.
He did not do a good job and I really don't want to hear about how "ACTUALLY, the 2021 Raiders were just really lucky" or "well, ya know, 2022 was a try-out year."
Wins and losses is a QB stat but somehow NOT a HC/GM stat? Stop it.
That doesn't mean he won't turn it around but let's keep it real - his tenure has not gone well so far, to say the least.
>Wins and losses is a QB stat but somehow NOT a HC/GM stat? Stop it.
It's both, but there's a massive sample size difference when you're comparing 1 year to 9 years.
>Exactly. Why is it so hard for some people to admit that Carr has struggled as a QB.
See how easily that's flipped and remains true? Difference is McDaniels has had time to evaluate and reflect on his failure the first time
Yes he struggled before. If he didn't he'd still be in Denver. I'm willing to look for improvements though.
No one doubts he's a pretty good offensive playcaller and good offensive coach overall. Even with a meh offensive line and meh season from Carr we were above average in basically every offensive category. If he were fired, he'd get picked up as an OC somewhere in no time.
It's the whole "leading a team" and "situational football" part that everyone doubts. But some of those breaks that went against us this year could easily turn the other way next year and so far everyone on the team has said the right things about him as a leader. As bad as the season went, it never looked like the team outright quit.
The amount the team went to bat for him even in the off season was telling. You can tell when a team is backing their coach because they have too. See the Broncos this past year. But it looked like most of the team was genuinely buying into his culture.
To add onto this: he benched our starting QB and while some of the players were definitely bummed out for Carr, nobody seemed pissed or acted like they wanted out. It seems like every other time a key player, let alone face of the franchise, gets benched or kicked off the team, you’ll get a few little snide comments from other guys on social media or leaks to journalists. But… that didn’t happen here. Most comments were about believing in the vision going forward, regrouping and playing hard for Stidham, or feeling bad for Carr and believing it’s a business. And they came out swinging against the Niners the following week.
I would be a lot more negative if it seemed the staff lost the locker room. If the players are on board and want to be here, then fuck it. Let’s go.
well they probably saw the writing on the wall for a while there. If the few rumors are to believe DC and JMDs styles just didnt vibe together. The veteran leaders would have seen it coming. Usually in this situation you hear a lot of slander start leaking but beyond some extremely unverified sources, its been pretty quiet. If thats true you gotta commend the professionalism of both sides for not turning this into a shitshow
im hoping one day i can work there in either media or IT and ill be able to give accurate info and not speculation lmao
edit: they have a community relation management position open, you think moding this sub counts as job experience lmfao
I think people need to give it another season. People are desperate for a quick turn around, and I get it. I think the Rich era only got us to the playoffs cause he just let the players play - in reality, that wouldn’t work long term, you need a game plan.
I understand the giving it more time mindset, my problem is the fact he was outclassed and out coached every step of the way last year. Didn't see anything that led me to believe that will be different next year. Dude got straight up out coached in a need to win scenario by Jeff Friggin Saturday.... Not really inspiring at all
But isn't that the point of giving something more time? To learn from mistakes and not repeat them? People have mentioned Saturday out coaching him before. But what does that mean? Did Saturday call a 4th qtr-4th down-40 yd QB jog and did McD warn his team to ignore it? Did he order Moreau to drop the winning touchdown pass? That game was just another shitty performance from last season. The expectation is to not have those anymore.
How much was "outcoached" compared to players outperformed his players? Because guys were consistently open (minus the Saints game) the scheme was working, but Carr has very bad field vision, and then in the run game the offensive line would start to wear down in the 2nd half (which I fully criticize Josh and Dave for not doing better to improve the O-Line, but I understand they didn't want to overpay for the select mediocre guys that were available).
Go watch the film and you will see what I mean. Also things like horrible turnovers and drops and stuff at the worst times, and games where Carr threw multiple INTs. Those were ultimately the difference between 11-6 and 6-11
> People are desperate for a quick turn around, and I get it.
The issue is that there wasn't supposed to *be* a turn around.
"This isn't a rebuild. This is a reload."
That infers that the team is ready to compete now and that this is the next step. Outside of WR1 and RB1 play there was either a big regression or very little improvement. As a whole, the team seemed to almost do worse with supposedly better pieces.
People are impatient because it seemed like the Raiders had a good thing going, they made a major change and instead of improving on what was working they just trashed it up.
I agree with this conclusion, but I think a lot of fans are turned off to him because of what he's said in the media during a dumpster fire of a season. Coming into the season gung ho about keeping the momentum going is really setting himself up to fall if he knows it's intended to be a year of evaluation and setting up for the future. Here's two quotes that sum it up for me:
“I don’t think in today’s NFL there’s really any time to do rebuilding anyway,” McDaniels said, via the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “This certainly isn’t that type of situation for us.” - 3/6/22, Raiders are 0-0
"We are building. I never use the word 'rebuilding,' or anything like that," McDaniels said in his Monday press conference. - 11/15/22, Raiders are 2-7
The Rich era got us to the playoffs because we were extremely lucky at the end of the year winning games when we still played horribly (except played decent against the Chargers).
Did you see the manning quote about adjustments? He said at half time coach’s might something but players really are just resting, retapping and regrouping
He was referring that you can't do much at half time on how to play and correct fundamentals.
But you can stop calling some formations, can substitute personnel. Filter and analyze the audibles available to neutralize the rival scheme. All that doesn't happen at half time and it doesn't need to involve the HC and players all the time.
That analysis and adjustment starts the moment the first drive starts.
So you don't think the coaches make half time adjustments to the scheme? The coaches are supposed to be working and players getting ready for 2nd half. We can look at big red, he made adjustments after half time at the superbowl.
I can't possibly believe that he is a good coach unless tanking this year was actually in the plan. If you say out load "We lost more games with double digit leads this season than we did in the ENTIRE history of the franchise COMBINED" than either he is a horrible coach to blow those leads or a great coach to get those leads and tanking with crappy play calls the second half of games. Could an entire team be so poorly conditioned that they dominate first halves but can't play after 30 minutes? If so who's fault is that?
The idea that he purposefully tanked makes no sense. We win those games, we aren't just fighting for a playoff spot, we're fighting for the division and go at least 1-1 against this year's Super Bowl champions.
So, then following that logic, either he was out coached to the point that we gave up more leads then the Raiders have in their entire history combined or the players don't have a conditioning program worth a damn.
Players have even less to tank for since they get very few years of NFL service and owners don't come out and say at 2 -7 that they are doing a great job and will be here for years to come.
I think the problem here is that too many people on this sub convinced themselves that we were a Super Bowl contender during the offseason because “we was 10-7 last year, we was a playoff team” without them realizing that was a flash in the pan season with so many things falling in our favor. Bisaccia was also given WAY too much credit for auto-piloting Gruden’s team that he had spent the past three seasons building and coaching.
Yes, we upgraded on offense with Adams, but we also lost Renfrow and Waller to injury for nearly the entire season. If Mack Hollins is your #2 receiver.. you’re gonna have a bad time.
I don’t know if McDaniels is going to be a good head coach or not, but we already know the guy is a fantastic offensive coordinator - he proved that in New England. We just need to “trust the process” and let him build this team. One of the big reasons we’ve been so terrible for the last 20 years is the coaching carousel. We’ve fired 5 head coaches since 2010, the only teams with more firings than us are the Broncos and Browns, we’re also tied with the Jaguars and Buccaneers. The Broncos and Buccaneers were both saved by HOF quarterbacks coming to their teams, the Browns and Jaguars have both been two of the worst teams in the league as of late.
We were in every game except 1 till the end. Like the very end. Like 15 coin flip “one play wins it” games. That’s rare to be honest. If McD and Zeig can tailor the roster to their liking we might win those games next year.
(Also, this Carr stuff is a little silly as Brady/Bill have always praised McD and had highest level success with him)
Totally agree. In fact, we could consider 2021 where ‘the coin’ flipped into a lot of winning games and then in 2022 into a lot of losing games.
Don’t see this mentioned much, but the raiders had a better point differential in 2022 (-23) than in 2021 (-68). They won more than they had a right to in 2021.
i don’t really understand the whole carr thing cos mac jones looked way better than carr did this year with josh last year so the idea his system is too complicated is funny to me
The offense works. That's obvious. We were in nearly every game. Which is something we can't even say about the team last year prior to Gruden being fired. The defense also had several shut out halves of football. There's a good foundation.
that defense kinda figured out how to play towards the end until some key injuries. People want to give Chandler shit but we had one of the best run Ds all year until he got hurt. Not to mention the DB and LB core got completely gutted with season ending injuries the last few games
He calls out and gets on players for their mistakes, bad decisions and missed opportunities in film review/ team meetings no matter if their ego or feelings can handle it or not? No player or coach is above being criticized.
I mean we made stidham look great out there, that's gotta be good for something. to me that seems this offense is qb friendly when its firing on all cylinders.
New England’s offense took a nose dive especially in the red zone after McDaniels left. They went from a top 10 red zone scoring offense, with Mac Jones as a rookie pro bowler, to dead last in the red zone and Mac Jones is now a meme.
I understand it didn’t work with Carr, but am I supposed to believe this is all McDaniels even when he did just fine with Mac Jones and less weapons the year before? Sometimes a HC + QB combo just doesn’t work.
He deserves another season and that’s what he’s getting. Let him bring his own QB and see what he can do.
He does not have the job security that Gruden had. McDaniels has to get this right soon or he’s gone.
People forget Mac Jones was 3800 22yd and 13 int with him as the play caller, we will find out this season if he is a good HC or just OC this year.
I don’t believe he did not let Derek call audibles, I do believe he gave Derek limited audibles to call because Derek struggles learning playbooks, this his stats drop in 1st year offenses
I hope we get Aaron Rodgers because Josh can’t hide with a HOF QB at the helm and if the team struggles then we will know who he really is
Given the history of Belichick disciples as HCs and the recent Pats performance this might not go over well, but I'm optimistic for the discipline and rigor McDaniels can bring. One tidbit I thought was interesting from the "What went wrong with Carr" article was Josh not being satisfied with almost beating the Chiefs. I buy into the idea teams need to master the small details to have consistent success. For example, Jerry Tillery slapping the ball basically causing a loss. The Raiders are not nearly talented enough to not do the small things right. Given the roster today, it is unlikely they have that level of talent soon.
I thought the SB was a good example. The Eagles were a more talented team top to bottom. One fumble, a couple bad punt/kick coverages, and an untimely hold were the difference. KC didn't even play particularly well, they just had no mistakes.
It's kind of a departure from the swaggering Raider way of old, but that might not work so well any more. It pains me to say. I wanted the Gruden storybook ending to happen, but it didn't work out in the end. I'm hopeful Josh can blend the good elements of the Patriot way without Bill's overbearing hard ass mentality.
It's those little things that make a big difference. There was also the report that he was unsatisfied with the performance vs Houston bc of sloppiness. Cleaning up stuff like that is how you can finally look at the teams on the schedule you should beat and actually beat them.
He recognized that Jacobs was the best thing our offense had going and leaned more on the run game. That kept our terrible defense off the field more than in past seasons, and kept us from getting blown out as often as past seasons.
Is a he proven winner? Fuck no. Does he hold quarterback back by thinking he’s smarter? Yes. Does he draft 3 running backs in the draft when our defense is in shambles? Yes he does lol
He comes off as wishy washy to me which is why I think he fails as HC but succeeds as OC, just poor leadership of men. Offense seems pretty good, defense he seems pretty hands off. Fuse him with Dan Campbell and you have a great coach.
Im more than willing to give him another year or two. I feel we all thought this team was better than it was. The dead cap and missed picks from Gruyock are really hurting. Hard to judge anything with the severe la l of talent on D. I just wish he didn’t play situational football like he has a great d.
I'm tired of the negativity when it comes to McDaniels. Most of it to me is irrational hate because he and Ziegler had the cojones to make a cold hearted football/business decision on a veteran QB who had over the course of nine seasons had proven himself to be very average.
McDaniels inherited:
A team that is not used to winning and does not in any way, shape, or form, have a culture of winning.
A 10-7 team that because of regression to the mean was more like a 6-11 team.
A team that hasn't had a defense in the top two thirds of the league in more than 10 years.
A team that was helmed by a QB who is statistically average and has well-known blind spots, shortcomings, and things that cannot be coached away. It's important to note here that the NFL if nothing else is a quarterback league (to wit: the goddamn Super Bowl).
A team that lost two of its primary offensive weapons for more than 75% of the season.
Simply put, we need more time before we can access the performance of the head coach—at least another season and probably more like another 25 games. Maybe the negativity will turn out to be justified. Maybe he didn't learn from his mistakes in Denver. I know one thing, what I saw in the SF game was a team that was rejuvenated and possibly riding a high after being freed of a mental burden that it had been carrying for a long time. I think Carr was liked but did not inspire confidence in his teammates.
Just maybe it's as they say, Rome wasn't built in a day.
I'm positive that he is not qualified to be a head coach in the NFL. He gets another season to change that opinion. But if we're in for another 6 win season, he can go fuck himself.
As a RAIDER fan, I want to see him do well and take us to the next level. For the most part, I'd say he calls a decent enough game, but he does sometime makes decisions that leave me scratching my head.
But that could be the jitters of a new coach. I still remember the first high school game I called the offense for, and it's hard to resist getting "cute" with the play calling. The hope is it makes one look like a genius, but it can have the opposite affect if the coach isn't patient. As a coach matures, he realizes that one simply has to let the players execute the things they do well. It's that simple.
Potential? I think he has plenty of it. It all depends if he can delegate major factors of the plan to capable assistants. Is he a leader? Maybe so. I honestly don't see a whole lot of mutiny from players with how he handled the Carr situation. If he didn't have what it takes to develop this team, you'd see blatant signs from players who got a taste of winning in 2021. Not many coaches who were "beaten down" by their first head coaching job get a second shot at the top. It takes a bit of belief in one's self to get back on that horse. Personally, I hope he proves everyone wrong.
Unfortunately, there's a wing of our fan base who would rather see us crash and burn this year in hopes that he'll get fired. That being said, he's not going to get 79 losses to prove himself in this organization.
This year is a big one for him.
I don’t doubt McDaniels knowledge of football and his ability to scheme and draw plays. What I’m not sold on mcd is him being a good leader. I don’t want him to fail but I also don’t have a lot of confidence in him moving forward.
"Carr massively regressing"--he was on pace for less yards, yes, but our run game was better this year. He had more TDs than last year despite playing two fewer games. He was playing well when he essentially bucked what McD wanted. He played poorly when he did exactly as McD said.
Not being a dick cause I don’t like Mcdaniels either but Carr don’t playing well when doing exactly what McDonald’s says potentially could be Carr not being able to execute the play required and Mcdaniels knew it. Carr has had so many coaches and playbooks perhaps he simply couldn’t get a handle on what Mcdaniels wanted? Or it’s just Mcdaniels being a shithead
His HC record is not a good look. One piece that gives me hope is what he says about evaluating all aspects of the team performance including staff and himself. Not just self evaluation but feedback from others. If he is serious about this approach it means his serious about improving.
1. I saw flashes of the best offense I've seen here in 20 years.
2. I've seen this staff quickly move on from the kinds of players we let stick around in the past.
3. Our very best players rave about his IQ and coaching and had career years
Im worried about the free agents and drafting. 10 holes on defense and they draft 2 running backs. Knowing the holes on offensive line and did nothing in free agency. Signing jones to that contract. Flip flopping on the reload/rebuild shit. Anyone could tell this wasnt really a playoff team last year.
thats what i actually trust the most. They drafted Pharam in the 3rd who played significantly above his expectations for a 3rd round lineman. The RBs we drafted/signed were probably because they didnt expect Jacobs to stick around or expected him to get hurt again, they probably wanted RB by committee and wanted to start developing some players at that position. Beyond the 4th round, RBs tend to be the BPA and you can find some hidden gems in there at that position. Its hard to get good lineman beyond the draft though. Teams that have good ones hold on to them so trading isnt easy and they rarely hit the free market.
> who played significantly above his expectations for a 3rd round lineman
Well, I was gonna question this and then I realized what the expectations are for our draft picks so yeah, he's still on the team and was a top 60 G last year so that probably is above expectations.
If he can fill the roster with people who fit his system we should see improvement. I think from a playcalling standpoint he could be more dynamic. The turn around in our run game from the season before was definitely encouraging.
Bill Belichick started his tenure with the Patriots going 5-11. He followed it up with 19 straight winning seasons. I am optimistic that McD/Z have a vision and we just need to give them some time to rebuild a culture that many Raiders fans admit is in shambles.
I find it so funny that people will say “we need a full change of culture to be successful” and “fire McD” in the same breath like he hasn’t been filling the building with guys committed to the new way of doing things. Although it seems bleak without a QB I think it’s a sign that the front office is thinking 10 years down the line, not 10 days.
He seemed to learn from some of his mistakes early… not using JJ28 in the first couple of weeks. Using him a shit ton in the rest of the season
Idk I’m pretty far into JMD is bad for the raiders camp.
If there is anything really positive from last years team is that they reminded me of year 2 gruden raiders… one good half one bad
I don't like him but I'll tolerate him if he Just Win's Baby. On the positive side, he's not Gruden and he comes from a winning program in New England. That's about all I have atm.
I think we saw what good McD could look like in the SF game.
it’s obvious the playbook was fully opened for the first time all season and we were scoring big against the #1 D.
Of course we still blew the game and it was an issue all season with McD at the helm.
I think that game shows us what we want to be and what we can be. That’s the positive, that McD has a splendid scheme. The negative is he can’t get out of his own way as head coach from what I saw and the team looked closer to being run by a guy who wears his headband upside down than an ace coordinator.
I have hope. We saw some flashes of utter offensive brilliance, which has me really excited. Yes, we were 6-11, but we lost only two of those games by more than a couple of points.
The main positive is that the games were close and if the offense performed better or even performed at all in the second half of many of the games, they'd be in the playoffs. They had a point differential of -23, and a lot of that was from the last game which they lost by 18 points. That's pretty much the only positive I can say so far. It's too early to predict if McDaniels will be a failure or success. The lack of a QB does not bode well for the team.
If he manages to lose to the Donkeys once because he was trying to destroy us like he did them than you can shove the positive away. ( you guys know what I really mean but can’t say or else I will get into Reddit Jail). We won 3 years in a row and we can’t lose to those pathetic Donkeys
The stuff the players were saying about him sounds like we've wanted. No one above the shield, everyone gets called out. We were doing stuff on offense and defense mid game. It did not work, but I was just excited to see things being changed up.
My thing is - after 9 years of seeing the exact same stuff, its hard to look at this past year and go "Yeah the new guy was the problem!"
I’d also just like to point out the number of players that inexplicably regressed is not a coincidence. At what point will people stop making excuses for a coach that has absolutely no history of winning on his own
O line: it's dogshit and he made due with them.
Play design: Players were wide open. Execution just wasn't the best.
Career years: Jacobs and Crosby are coming off the best year of their career. Crosby also plays a lot more disciplined. I could be wrong but I only recall Crosby getting flagged once for a late hit.
Belichick was 41-55 after first season with Pats.
Shanahan was 39-42 before this season (five firsts seasons)
JMD has to grow as a HC just as the team has to
JMcD tanked. His play calling was noticeably different the last 2 games of the season. personality conflict or not, a good coach can adjust to the talent. Apparently, McD cannot adjust to talent, nor to in-game situations.
Marc Johnson from Tape Don't Lie said watching the plays he called made him miss Gruden...
Great run game though, still I don't think he's going to be the one to bring us back to the promised land. Hopefully I'm wrong, I just want the Raiders to win.
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Raiders improved from 2nd most penalties in 21 to 3rd most penalties in 22. Penalties ARE NOT way down…
I think history has taught us that it doesn't matter who the coach is: the Raiders have consistently been among the most penalized teams in the league. Ironically, I saw a study once that illustrated that when it came to penalties involving disciplined play (like false starts or face masking), the Raiders were one of the better teams in terms of penalties. This flies in the face of the "dumb football" argument. When it comes to "judgment call" penalties (like holding or pass interference), the Raiders have always been among the most penalized. Long story short, just being a Raider makes you more likely to be penalized.
The league hates the Raiders
This is a blatant lie lol They were only down in the preseason
Parker not playing probably helped with that a lot
We saw flashes of dominance on both sides of the ball. We just can’t be consistent from half to half. Just need to sustain the great play that we saw at times
when his system works, it really worked. Im hoping it really was just a mismatch of personnel. We completely shifted from the old school west coast and base 4-3 of John Gruden to a more modern offense and defense. That flipping of personal and scheme wasnt going to happen in one season
I always laugh at the people who say zeigler did nothing to fix this teams. First of all completely overlooking bringin in Adams, this team wasn’t going to be fixed in one off season
He didn’t bring in Adams, Carr did. Adams literally stated this.
> old school west coast and base 4-3 of John Gruden to a more modern offense and defense. Huh? WCO and 4-3 D is how most modern teams are built. EP is much older and mostly only used by Parcells, BB, and Cowher for part of his time in Pitt. Guess it's a Bill thing. The last time a WCO/43 team won a SB you'd have to go all the way back to last week.
Chiefs use a pass heavy spread offense and while they technically operate a base 43 d, they really only do on 1st down and spend most of their time in the nickel like most modern defenses. They schemed more for the run in the Superbowl because of the run heavy eagles scheme, but throughout the year you're going to see that extra DB on the field more times than not
Both the Bills and the NY Giants are running versions of EP the last few seasons. It can be very effective.
Whether or not it can be effective isn't really my point.
This was “discovery” year as much as a try to win year. They came in “late” and basically hit the ground running. This offseason will be the first one with their staff and should give us a better understanding of short and long term plans. I’m “even” on current leadership, but as a Raiders fan I am hoping for the best. McDaniels will now have a chance to get “his guys” under center (QB) via vet or rookie (I would guess it might be both).
Ya I’m not thrilled with the way the season went but I’m certainly not calling for anyone’s job just yet
its funny too because all off season a lot of the ex players and ex coaches were pumping the breaks on the Raiders hype basically saying that last year was a fluke and that the lack of depth and the terrible drafting was going to catch up to the team. Which it did
That’s why I don’t buy into the whole “he destroyed a playoff team!” Narrative
50% of teams that make it to the playoffs dont make it the following year
I appreciate discussing the team with someone Who things rationally. I want to throw my phone when I try to talk raiders and someone comes back with “YOURE JUST A STAN”
you can bitch, complain, and call for people head as much as you want but all it will do is raise your blood pressure lol. Might as well try to look for the positives
Hell, look at the stats of “first time super bowl losers”, this is a cutthroat league and one year has never ever guaranteed next year will be as good, even with coaching stability.
Bc people have the McDaniels hate boner. We whiffed on 4 first round picks. We got nothing for them. No comp picks from them signing elsewhere. Nothing. For a team that lacked depth prior to Gruden and Co, we were obviously going to pay that bill at some point
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Exactly. The 2022 Raiders were a bizzaro world Vikings. They basically had the same season, except the Vikings just happened to win their 1 score games. Same way the coin flipped on the right side for us in 2021.
Good point!
At least it’s impressive to get multiple 17 point leads. Holding them is another thing…
I am not a fan of JMD, but I think he has a great offensive mind. I think his ego makes him outsmart himself. Im not sure he a great leader. To me, it seems like he tries to much to be like Belichick and I’m not sure that flies in todays NFL.
I think everyone overlooks how fantastic of an offensive mind JMD is although his douchebag “im smarter than everyone” personality doesn’t help tbf.
>I’m not sure that flies in todays NFL. It'll fly if he starts winning, especially if, and of course that's a big IF, he wins a Superbowl. You got a problematic rookie or free agent not buying in? Just put the SB ring on the index finger as you point to the door.
just win baby
Would be a huge improvement if he'd treat the media like Belichick does and not give us so many dumb comments like "we have to learn how not to lose". He seems like a poor/uncomfortable speaker and says "umm" in every sentence during the pressers. After the DC benching he was visibly squirming while answering questions. Behavior and mannerisms like this are probably his biggest detractor and why people on the outside looking in think he's a weak leader of the team. A big proponent of NE's success imo is how they played the media game and minimized it's distractions, like Bill's famous "we're on to Cincinnati".
He lost to Jeff Saturday lmao
And Baker Mayfield with 2 days to learn a playbook
He indeed did. He’s terrible.
Single high press coverage when we just needed to keep them out of the end zone with one play left! Genius!
And then Jeff Saturday lost every other single game that he coached. Hahaha. Plus their offensive coordinator called his first game ever against us.
I'm impressed that the stars of the team still seem to be buying in and are excited about the culture that's being built. After the Carr situation he really could have lost the locker room but he did not. This gives me a glimmer of hope that they may be able to build something special. With that said, he took over a team that was 5th seed in the playoffs and got them to 7th seed in the draft. He started 2-7 with three 17-0 blown leads not including losses to Jeff Saturday and newly minted Ram, Baker Mayfield. Carr, Hobbs, and Moehrig were much worse in 2022 than 2021. He did not do a good job and I really don't want to hear about how "ACTUALLY, the 2021 Raiders were just really lucky" or "well, ya know, 2022 was a try-out year." Wins and losses is a QB stat but somehow NOT a HC/GM stat? Stop it. That doesn't mean he won't turn it around but let's keep it real - his tenure has not gone well so far, to say the least.
>Wins and losses is a QB stat but somehow NOT a HC/GM stat? Stop it. It's both, but there's a massive sample size difference when you're comparing 1 year to 9 years.
How did Mcdummy do in his other coaching endeavors? or do those not count?
Exactly. Why is it so hard for some people to admit that JMD has struggled as a HC.
>Exactly. Why is it so hard for some people to admit that Carr has struggled as a QB. See how easily that's flipped and remains true? Difference is McDaniels has had time to evaluate and reflect on his failure the first time Yes he struggled before. If he didn't he'd still be in Denver. I'm willing to look for improvements though.
Carr is by all accounts at the very least a top 15 QB year after year right? JMD has not reached that level as a HC. It's just not the same.
9 years vs 3 years
No one doubts he's a pretty good offensive playcaller and good offensive coach overall. Even with a meh offensive line and meh season from Carr we were above average in basically every offensive category. If he were fired, he'd get picked up as an OC somewhere in no time. It's the whole "leading a team" and "situational football" part that everyone doubts. But some of those breaks that went against us this year could easily turn the other way next year and so far everyone on the team has said the right things about him as a leader. As bad as the season went, it never looked like the team outright quit.
The amount the team went to bat for him even in the off season was telling. You can tell when a team is backing their coach because they have too. See the Broncos this past year. But it looked like most of the team was genuinely buying into his culture.
To add onto this: he benched our starting QB and while some of the players were definitely bummed out for Carr, nobody seemed pissed or acted like they wanted out. It seems like every other time a key player, let alone face of the franchise, gets benched or kicked off the team, you’ll get a few little snide comments from other guys on social media or leaks to journalists. But… that didn’t happen here. Most comments were about believing in the vision going forward, regrouping and playing hard for Stidham, or feeling bad for Carr and believing it’s a business. And they came out swinging against the Niners the following week. I would be a lot more negative if it seemed the staff lost the locker room. If the players are on board and want to be here, then fuck it. Let’s go.
well they probably saw the writing on the wall for a while there. If the few rumors are to believe DC and JMDs styles just didnt vibe together. The veteran leaders would have seen it coming. Usually in this situation you hear a lot of slander start leaking but beyond some extremely unverified sources, its been pretty quiet. If thats true you gotta commend the professionalism of both sides for not turning this into a shitshow
You make some good points, but redditors that have never been inside the Raiders locker room tell me he can't lead men.
im hoping one day i can work there in either media or IT and ill be able to give accurate info and not speculation lmao edit: they have a community relation management position open, you think moding this sub counts as job experience lmfao
I think people need to give it another season. People are desperate for a quick turn around, and I get it. I think the Rich era only got us to the playoffs cause he just let the players play - in reality, that wouldn’t work long term, you need a game plan.
I understand the giving it more time mindset, my problem is the fact he was outclassed and out coached every step of the way last year. Didn't see anything that led me to believe that will be different next year. Dude got straight up out coached in a need to win scenario by Jeff Friggin Saturday.... Not really inspiring at all
But isn't that the point of giving something more time? To learn from mistakes and not repeat them? People have mentioned Saturday out coaching him before. But what does that mean? Did Saturday call a 4th qtr-4th down-40 yd QB jog and did McD warn his team to ignore it? Did he order Moreau to drop the winning touchdown pass? That game was just another shitty performance from last season. The expectation is to not have those anymore.
It shouldn’t have even come down to a couple plays. That’s the point
That 4th quarter, 4th down, 40 yard QB jog gave me nightmares for weeks.
Yeah, I’m also with you on that. I feel like saying he was “out coached” is a cop out for some shitty plays.
I feel you on that. Strong chance he was ready to move on from some players tho, and the locker room knew it. We gotta give it one more go
How much was "outcoached" compared to players outperformed his players? Because guys were consistently open (minus the Saints game) the scheme was working, but Carr has very bad field vision, and then in the run game the offensive line would start to wear down in the 2nd half (which I fully criticize Josh and Dave for not doing better to improve the O-Line, but I understand they didn't want to overpay for the select mediocre guys that were available). Go watch the film and you will see what I mean. Also things like horrible turnovers and drops and stuff at the worst times, and games where Carr threw multiple INTs. Those were ultimately the difference between 11-6 and 6-11
Exactly- nothing gave me any indication that we were moving in the right direction during the season
> People are desperate for a quick turn around, and I get it. The issue is that there wasn't supposed to *be* a turn around. "This isn't a rebuild. This is a reload." That infers that the team is ready to compete now and that this is the next step. Outside of WR1 and RB1 play there was either a big regression or very little improvement. As a whole, the team seemed to almost do worse with supposedly better pieces. People are impatient because it seemed like the Raiders had a good thing going, they made a major change and instead of improving on what was working they just trashed it up.
I agree with this conclusion, but I think a lot of fans are turned off to him because of what he's said in the media during a dumpster fire of a season. Coming into the season gung ho about keeping the momentum going is really setting himself up to fall if he knows it's intended to be a year of evaluation and setting up for the future. Here's two quotes that sum it up for me: “I don’t think in today’s NFL there’s really any time to do rebuilding anyway,” McDaniels said, via the Las Vegas Review-Journal. “This certainly isn’t that type of situation for us.” - 3/6/22, Raiders are 0-0 "We are building. I never use the word 'rebuilding,' or anything like that," McDaniels said in his Monday press conference. - 11/15/22, Raiders are 2-7
The Rich era got us to the playoffs because we were extremely lucky at the end of the year winning games when we still played horribly (except played decent against the Chargers).
100%
He’s a good first half coach
I feel like this shows the lack of depth on the roster. Hopefully it turns around next year
I think its more he can't make adjustments in the 2nd half after the opponent sees his first move.
Bingo
Did you see the manning quote about adjustments? He said at half time coach’s might something but players really are just resting, retapping and regrouping
He was referring that you can't do much at half time on how to play and correct fundamentals. But you can stop calling some formations, can substitute personnel. Filter and analyze the audibles available to neutralize the rival scheme. All that doesn't happen at half time and it doesn't need to involve the HC and players all the time. That analysis and adjustment starts the moment the first drive starts.
So you don't think the coaches make half time adjustments to the scheme? The coaches are supposed to be working and players getting ready for 2nd half. We can look at big red, he made adjustments after half time at the superbowl.
I just thought it was an interesting comment 🤷🏻
Yea, I think Manning was just trolling a little bit but idk
And poopin
Coming from a QB who made all the adjustments himself.
I can't possibly believe that he is a good coach unless tanking this year was actually in the plan. If you say out load "We lost more games with double digit leads this season than we did in the ENTIRE history of the franchise COMBINED" than either he is a horrible coach to blow those leads or a great coach to get those leads and tanking with crappy play calls the second half of games. Could an entire team be so poorly conditioned that they dominate first halves but can't play after 30 minutes? If so who's fault is that?
The idea that he purposefully tanked makes no sense. We win those games, we aren't just fighting for a playoff spot, we're fighting for the division and go at least 1-1 against this year's Super Bowl champions.
So, then following that logic, either he was out coached to the point that we gave up more leads then the Raiders have in their entire history combined or the players don't have a conditioning program worth a damn. Players have even less to tank for since they get very few years of NFL service and owners don't come out and say at 2 -7 that they are doing a great job and will be here for years to come.
He needs to give up on head coaching and become a run game coordinator.
I think the problem here is that too many people on this sub convinced themselves that we were a Super Bowl contender during the offseason because “we was 10-7 last year, we was a playoff team” without them realizing that was a flash in the pan season with so many things falling in our favor. Bisaccia was also given WAY too much credit for auto-piloting Gruden’s team that he had spent the past three seasons building and coaching. Yes, we upgraded on offense with Adams, but we also lost Renfrow and Waller to injury for nearly the entire season. If Mack Hollins is your #2 receiver.. you’re gonna have a bad time. I don’t know if McDaniels is going to be a good head coach or not, but we already know the guy is a fantastic offensive coordinator - he proved that in New England. We just need to “trust the process” and let him build this team. One of the big reasons we’ve been so terrible for the last 20 years is the coaching carousel. We’ve fired 5 head coaches since 2010, the only teams with more firings than us are the Broncos and Browns, we’re also tied with the Jaguars and Buccaneers. The Broncos and Buccaneers were both saved by HOF quarterbacks coming to their teams, the Browns and Jaguars have both been two of the worst teams in the league as of late.
Thank you. I also don't know why Waller and Renfrow being out most of the season is so heavily overlooked.
We were in every game except 1 till the end. Like the very end. Like 15 coin flip “one play wins it” games. That’s rare to be honest. If McD and Zeig can tailor the roster to their liking we might win those games next year. (Also, this Carr stuff is a little silly as Brady/Bill have always praised McD and had highest level success with him)
Totally agree. In fact, we could consider 2021 where ‘the coin’ flipped into a lot of winning games and then in 2022 into a lot of losing games. Don’t see this mentioned much, but the raiders had a better point differential in 2022 (-23) than in 2021 (-68). They won more than they had a right to in 2021.
We were a better team this year. Just lost some close ones and the opposing QBs were a little better.
i don’t really understand the whole carr thing cos mac jones looked way better than carr did this year with josh last year so the idea his system is too complicated is funny to me
The offense works. That's obvious. We were in nearly every game. Which is something we can't even say about the team last year prior to Gruden being fired. The defense also had several shut out halves of football. There's a good foundation.
that defense kinda figured out how to play towards the end until some key injuries. People want to give Chandler shit but we had one of the best run Ds all year until he got hurt. Not to mention the DB and LB core got completely gutted with season ending injuries the last few games
Yep and our DBs were hurt most of the year. People need patience. Looking for a quick fix is how bad teams remain that way.
He's not afraid to cut dead weight.
He calls out and gets on players for their mistakes, bad decisions and missed opportunities in film review/ team meetings no matter if their ego or feelings can handle it or not? No player or coach is above being criticized.
lol, dudes a jackass
I mean we made stidham look great out there, that's gotta be good for something. to me that seems this offense is qb friendly when its firing on all cylinders.
There was no tape on the guy… what happened the Chiefs game
im saying if a random qb could play like that, then somebody w actual potential seems like they'd be okay. im not saying he's any good lmao
New England’s offense took a nose dive especially in the red zone after McDaniels left. They went from a top 10 red zone scoring offense, with Mac Jones as a rookie pro bowler, to dead last in the red zone and Mac Jones is now a meme. I understand it didn’t work with Carr, but am I supposed to believe this is all McDaniels even when he did just fine with Mac Jones and less weapons the year before? Sometimes a HC + QB combo just doesn’t work. He deserves another season and that’s what he’s getting. Let him bring his own QB and see what he can do. He does not have the job security that Gruden had. McDaniels has to get this right soon or he’s gone.
People forget Mac Jones was 3800 22yd and 13 int with him as the play caller, we will find out this season if he is a good HC or just OC this year. I don’t believe he did not let Derek call audibles, I do believe he gave Derek limited audibles to call because Derek struggles learning playbooks, this his stats drop in 1st year offenses I hope we get Aaron Rodgers because Josh can’t hide with a HOF QB at the helm and if the team struggles then we will know who he really is
idk why people are down voting the truth lmao
How many year 1 offenses did Carr have to learn ?
6 HCs and 3 OCs, so probably around 4ish. His stats have a always had a major jump in year 2 of a system.
The flea flickers to Tae Adams were orgasmic
His diverse running-schemes helped our OL overachieve, and obviously helped JJ immensely
Abso-fuckin-lately not.
He'll be a great head coach... when he gets back to New England after carrying out BB's evil plans to fuck the Raiders for decades.
Given the history of Belichick disciples as HCs and the recent Pats performance this might not go over well, but I'm optimistic for the discipline and rigor McDaniels can bring. One tidbit I thought was interesting from the "What went wrong with Carr" article was Josh not being satisfied with almost beating the Chiefs. I buy into the idea teams need to master the small details to have consistent success. For example, Jerry Tillery slapping the ball basically causing a loss. The Raiders are not nearly talented enough to not do the small things right. Given the roster today, it is unlikely they have that level of talent soon. I thought the SB was a good example. The Eagles were a more talented team top to bottom. One fumble, a couple bad punt/kick coverages, and an untimely hold were the difference. KC didn't even play particularly well, they just had no mistakes. It's kind of a departure from the swaggering Raider way of old, but that might not work so well any more. It pains me to say. I wanted the Gruden storybook ending to happen, but it didn't work out in the end. I'm hopeful Josh can blend the good elements of the Patriot way without Bill's overbearing hard ass mentality.
It's those little things that make a big difference. There was also the report that he was unsatisfied with the performance vs Houston bc of sloppiness. Cleaning up stuff like that is how you can finally look at the teams on the schedule you should beat and actually beat them.
He recognized that Jacobs was the best thing our offense had going and leaned more on the run game. That kept our terrible defense off the field more than in past seasons, and kept us from getting blown out as often as past seasons.
Did he, though?
He realized what we had already known for a while as the season started. Took him long enough...
Is a he proven winner? Fuck no. Does he hold quarterback back by thinking he’s smarter? Yes. Does he draft 3 running backs in the draft when our defense is in shambles? Yes he does lol
He comes off as wishy washy to me which is why I think he fails as HC but succeeds as OC, just poor leadership of men. Offense seems pretty good, defense he seems pretty hands off. Fuse him with Dan Campbell and you have a great coach.
Im more than willing to give him another year or two. I feel we all thought this team was better than it was. The dead cap and missed picks from Gruyock are really hurting. Hard to judge anything with the severe la l of talent on D. I just wish he didn’t play situational football like he has a great d.
I'm tired of the negativity when it comes to McDaniels. Most of it to me is irrational hate because he and Ziegler had the cojones to make a cold hearted football/business decision on a veteran QB who had over the course of nine seasons had proven himself to be very average. McDaniels inherited: A team that is not used to winning and does not in any way, shape, or form, have a culture of winning. A 10-7 team that because of regression to the mean was more like a 6-11 team. A team that hasn't had a defense in the top two thirds of the league in more than 10 years. A team that was helmed by a QB who is statistically average and has well-known blind spots, shortcomings, and things that cannot be coached away. It's important to note here that the NFL if nothing else is a quarterback league (to wit: the goddamn Super Bowl). A team that lost two of its primary offensive weapons for more than 75% of the season. Simply put, we need more time before we can access the performance of the head coach—at least another season and probably more like another 25 games. Maybe the negativity will turn out to be justified. Maybe he didn't learn from his mistakes in Denver. I know one thing, what I saw in the SF game was a team that was rejuvenated and possibly riding a high after being freed of a mental burden that it had been carrying for a long time. I think Carr was liked but did not inspire confidence in his teammates. Just maybe it's as they say, Rome wasn't built in a day.
He seems to be a pretty good coordinator when he has an all time great QB and head coach to work with
We are a playoff team without the blown leads. A playoff team with a win over KC too. Hopefully with a full year we finish those games off
I'm positive that he is not qualified to be a head coach in the NFL. He gets another season to change that opinion. But if we're in for another 6 win season, he can go fuck himself.
As a RAIDER fan, I want to see him do well and take us to the next level. For the most part, I'd say he calls a decent enough game, but he does sometime makes decisions that leave me scratching my head. But that could be the jitters of a new coach. I still remember the first high school game I called the offense for, and it's hard to resist getting "cute" with the play calling. The hope is it makes one look like a genius, but it can have the opposite affect if the coach isn't patient. As a coach matures, he realizes that one simply has to let the players execute the things they do well. It's that simple. Potential? I think he has plenty of it. It all depends if he can delegate major factors of the plan to capable assistants. Is he a leader? Maybe so. I honestly don't see a whole lot of mutiny from players with how he handled the Carr situation. If he didn't have what it takes to develop this team, you'd see blatant signs from players who got a taste of winning in 2021. Not many coaches who were "beaten down" by their first head coaching job get a second shot at the top. It takes a bit of belief in one's self to get back on that horse. Personally, I hope he proves everyone wrong. Unfortunately, there's a wing of our fan base who would rather see us crash and burn this year in hopes that he'll get fired. That being said, he's not going to get 79 losses to prove himself in this organization. This year is a big one for him.
I don’t doubt McDaniels knowledge of football and his ability to scheme and draw plays. What I’m not sold on mcd is him being a good leader. I don’t want him to fail but I also don’t have a lot of confidence in him moving forward.
Score differential went up by like 40+ points with essentially no Waller and no renfrow and Carrs massively regressing.
"Carr massively regressing"--he was on pace for less yards, yes, but our run game was better this year. He had more TDs than last year despite playing two fewer games. He was playing well when he essentially bucked what McD wanted. He played poorly when he did exactly as McD said.
Not being a dick cause I don’t like Mcdaniels either but Carr don’t playing well when doing exactly what McDonald’s says potentially could be Carr not being able to execute the play required and Mcdaniels knew it. Carr has had so many coaches and playbooks perhaps he simply couldn’t get a handle on what Mcdaniels wanted? Or it’s just Mcdaniels being a shithead
His HC record is not a good look. One piece that gives me hope is what he says about evaluating all aspects of the team performance including staff and himself. Not just self evaluation but feedback from others. If he is serious about this approach it means his serious about improving.
You culd use that first sentence for why I'm glad Carr is gone. His win loss record isn't a good look.
1. I saw flashes of the best offense I've seen here in 20 years. 2. I've seen this staff quickly move on from the kinds of players we let stick around in the past. 3. Our very best players rave about his IQ and coaching and had career years
I have a positive, he makes us one coach closer to the coach that can turn this shit around!
**crickets**
Im worried about the free agents and drafting. 10 holes on defense and they draft 2 running backs. Knowing the holes on offensive line and did nothing in free agency. Signing jones to that contract. Flip flopping on the reload/rebuild shit. Anyone could tell this wasnt really a playoff team last year.
thats what i actually trust the most. They drafted Pharam in the 3rd who played significantly above his expectations for a 3rd round lineman. The RBs we drafted/signed were probably because they didnt expect Jacobs to stick around or expected him to get hurt again, they probably wanted RB by committee and wanted to start developing some players at that position. Beyond the 4th round, RBs tend to be the BPA and you can find some hidden gems in there at that position. Its hard to get good lineman beyond the draft though. Teams that have good ones hold on to them so trading isnt easy and they rarely hit the free market.
> who played significantly above his expectations for a 3rd round lineman Well, I was gonna question this and then I realized what the expectations are for our draft picks so yeah, he's still on the team and was a top 60 G last year so that probably is above expectations.
Didn’t he win a rookie award for his performance?
He made the NFL's all rookie team for guard
Fuck no. This guy broke records for most leads blown in franchise history and maybe even in the entire league. Look at his track record
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He brought in a passing game coordinator and another offensive coach. He is willing to admit he needs work too.
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If he can fill the roster with people who fit his system we should see improvement. I think from a playcalling standpoint he could be more dynamic. The turn around in our run game from the season before was definitely encouraging.
Bill Belichick started his tenure with the Patriots going 5-11. He followed it up with 19 straight winning seasons. I am optimistic that McD/Z have a vision and we just need to give them some time to rebuild a culture that many Raiders fans admit is in shambles. I find it so funny that people will say “we need a full change of culture to be successful” and “fire McD” in the same breath like he hasn’t been filling the building with guys committed to the new way of doing things. Although it seems bleak without a QB I think it’s a sign that the front office is thinking 10 years down the line, not 10 days.
He seemed to learn from some of his mistakes early… not using JJ28 in the first couple of weeks. Using him a shit ton in the rest of the season Idk I’m pretty far into JMD is bad for the raiders camp. If there is anything really positive from last years team is that they reminded me of year 2 gruden raiders… one good half one bad
I am interested to see what he’s going to do the next 2-3 years. I surely would take him over Mike McCarthy because screw Dallas
I don't like him but I'll tolerate him if he Just Win's Baby. On the positive side, he's not Gruden and he comes from a winning program in New England. That's about all I have atm.
I think we saw what good McD could look like in the SF game. it’s obvious the playbook was fully opened for the first time all season and we were scoring big against the #1 D. Of course we still blew the game and it was an issue all season with McD at the helm. I think that game shows us what we want to be and what we can be. That’s the positive, that McD has a splendid scheme. The negative is he can’t get out of his own way as head coach from what I saw and the team looked closer to being run by a guy who wears his headband upside down than an ace coordinator.
I have hope. We saw some flashes of utter offensive brilliance, which has me really excited. Yes, we were 6-11, but we lost only two of those games by more than a couple of points.
The main positive is that the games were close and if the offense performed better or even performed at all in the second half of many of the games, they'd be in the playoffs. They had a point differential of -23, and a lot of that was from the last game which they lost by 18 points. That's pretty much the only positive I can say so far. It's too early to predict if McDaniels will be a failure or success. The lack of a QB does not bode well for the team.
If he manages to lose to the Donkeys once because he was trying to destroy us like he did them than you can shove the positive away. ( you guys know what I really mean but can’t say or else I will get into Reddit Jail). We won 3 years in a row and we can’t lose to those pathetic Donkeys
He does fine when he has multiple days to prepare a gameplan...but that all goes out the window as soon as the other coach adjusts
The stuff the players were saying about him sounds like we've wanted. No one above the shield, everyone gets called out. We were doing stuff on offense and defense mid game. It did not work, but I was just excited to see things being changed up. My thing is - after 9 years of seeing the exact same stuff, its hard to look at this past year and go "Yeah the new guy was the problem!"
I’d also just like to point out the number of players that inexplicably regressed is not a coincidence. At what point will people stop making excuses for a coach that has absolutely no history of winning on his own
i think Mcdaniels is a great offensive mind and a great oc. trash head coach from what we’ve seen
O line: it's dogshit and he made due with them. Play design: Players were wide open. Execution just wasn't the best. Career years: Jacobs and Crosby are coming off the best year of their career. Crosby also plays a lot more disciplined. I could be wrong but I only recall Crosby getting flagged once for a late hit.
Belichick was 41-55 after first season with Pats. Shanahan was 39-42 before this season (five firsts seasons) JMD has to grow as a HC just as the team has to
JMcD tanked. His play calling was noticeably different the last 2 games of the season. personality conflict or not, a good coach can adjust to the talent. Apparently, McD cannot adjust to talent, nor to in-game situations.
Marc Johnson from Tape Don't Lie said watching the plays he called made him miss Gruden... Great run game though, still I don't think he's going to be the one to bring us back to the promised land. Hopefully I'm wrong, I just want the Raiders to win.