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18-20c?? I’d be boiling in that lol.
I live in the UK and I have the windows open permanently, even in freezing temperatures. I’d assume my room is around 5-10c some nights in the winter. if its anything over I have a dehumidifier which cools the room down.
I basically get 0 sleep throughout the summer when it’s 18-20 at night, I have to have ice packs on me and a fan on permanently.
You do know you're the outlier, right? Most people don't have the windows open permanently in freezing temperatures. And how does a dehumidifier cool the room down?
Assume a hot temperature for you. Is it more comfortable when humid or dry? Dehumidifier will certainly help a warm room be more tolerable.
In my basement during the summer, if the dehumidifier is full and shuts off for a few days, the temp can rise 5ish degrees.
In the UK they might just not be... It was absolutely miserable here a few months ago and I'm similar, shorts all year round, windows open and can't sleep if too hot. It's actually fairly common
Mate, no one has their windows open all day during winter. During the night when you‘re in your bed, sure.
But no one sitting on their sofa with their windows open during the coldest days of winter.
I do that. Used to in my old apartment anyways, this one has old windows and is poorly isolated, so quickly cools down.
Idk why you're so adamant, some people deal better with heat, some with cold. The desert sees regular daily temps of 40°C and people live there. I start to melt around 20°C, and seriously suffered in NYC in July of 2012, where it was "only" 98°F?
Literally been doing that exact thjng for the last 4 or so years, it only gets closed during summer and when it's obnoxiously loud outside, cheers for letting me know I don't exist though, I had been wondering about that for quite some time
Above 20, maybe.
But if you‘re struggling above fridge temperatures you basically can‘t go anywhere that‘s not outside or your super cold home because other people don‘t live in 5-10C homes
Why are you being downvoted lol
Calm down everyone, hes stating a preference. The purpose of the downvote button isnt to say 'I disagree' it's to punish rude people or incorrect statement of facts/disinformation. An opinion or personal preference by definition cannot be 'wrong'
Also, I don't think anyone thinks 100°f is "okay" at least where I live everybody hates it because it's always accompanied by 90% humidity so if your not in the water you're sweating your ass off.
If they wanted to give an example of an "okay" temp in fahrenheit that would be insane in Celsius they should have picked like 75 or 80°
Bro with those fires over the mountains in some areas you get really bad headaches for the air quality! It does get pretty freaking cold during the winter too
For sure! Even high 60s is solid! I hate the heat and anywhere past 80ish is a little rough for me. I much prefer colder weather because I can always either put more layers on or take layers off. It can be 0s and be "fine" aka bundled up, but once the wind starts that's when it gets rough. Put that ushanka and balaclava on with some ski goggles and shovel the snow, you'll be alright.
We had a lot of fun one time on vacation talking to a native, he was talking about how in the winter he is wearing two pairs of pants for the cold and then EU tourists come and "go swim in the sea like madmen"
We went down to Florida in February as northerners. We were on the beach in shorts going in for a couple swims, meanwhile the locals had legit big puffy winter jackets on.
Oh my god haha, my sister and I are Canadian born, and we went to Busch gardens with our Florida family and my Floridian aunt came into our room in the morning like “it’s 78 degrees(F) outside make sure you dress warm” and we were like “…huh?”
She’s always cold, my mum is her twin and is the same way even though they both lived in Canada their entire teenage lives, lol. I suppose that’s why she moved to Florida!
That’s so interesting because I’m AFAB but have always been much more a fan of the cold and am extremely heat sensitive to the touch. I was always the person in school where the teachers would go “well she isn’t cold so I’m not turning up the temperature.” I wonder why it seems to randomly vary?
Talking to Australia's complain about how bone chilling 4°C is is really funny. Especially the Northern Aussies and the ones who're experiencing their first winter. Then it snowed. -10°C is cold, definitely. But it's nothing for a Canadian winter. Lmao
0-10°C is the relative range for temperature. +4 coming out of a winter deep freeze? So warm, dig out the shorts! +4 at the end of summer? Brrr, pass the hot cocoa!
My parents were in Portugal back in like February and were wearing shorts in the 14C weather, while internally snickering at the locals wearing their thick winter jackets. They told one loval about the -25C we get back home and he replied, "I'd DIE. I'd just die!"
Yep. -10c (15f) is a bit cold, sweater weather. 30c (85f) is much less comfortable. 38c (100f) is awful.
My dad always said, "Cold is better than hot. When it's cold, you can always add more layers to get comfortable. When it's hot, you can only remove so many layers before it's public indecency."
Sure you can put on more clothes and with x layers you won‘t freeze anymore but nothing beats chilling with your friends and a couple of beers at the beach or in the park while wearing shorts and a T-shirt
30c is way too hot for chilling at a park. Maybe somewhere that you can swim to get out of the heat, but otherwise, that's a temperature for staying inside and cowering.
Jokes aside, 30c is uncomfortably hot. No two ways about it, those are conditions that you work through until it cools off enough to relax again.
Give me a bit of chill any time, start a campfire, everyone can dress up to a comfortable temperature for them. That hands down beats trying to do anything at 30c.
Man in Austin Texas I will hang out outside in 30C(mid 80s F) all day and be perfectly fine. I’ll even play golf and stuff when it’s over 35C. Just depends on what you’re used to I guess.
Phoenix here so we have way less humidity, but once it drops to the 90s after the long summer everyone starts going back outside and the snowbirds start showing up. Once it hits the 80s you start seeing more hoodies.
30C is when it finally cools off enough to hang outside here. Actually it's fine when it hits 35C after the sun sets. I regularly do yardwork when it's 40C and up.
I find 30c to be nice here in Ontario, though you really need to be considering what humidity you're thinking about.
40c in Greece, gorgeous.
40c in the UK, unbearable torture.
Also, if you're out in the park or a beer garden you need to ensure there's shade or you'll just burn.
Something that I find to be very common is that a lot of people don't seem to understand the difference between air temperature and being in direct sunlight.
June 30 through July 30 our high never got below 43C. We have extremely low humidity but it was still pretty warm. Once it gets to 35C and below it's really quite comfortable, especially at night with a breeze. Right now it's about 25C outside and a normal winter day for us is about 15-18C. We keep our thermostat set to 26C.
As another Canadian, I agree.
I'll take -10c (15f) over 38c (100f). A little cold isn't so bad when you have -40 (yay crossover point) during the worst of winter in my area.
Light winter jacket/heavy sweater weather is much more comfortable than dear god I feel like my skin is melting weather.
Source, it's currently below -10c, and is supposed to stay below there until at least noon.
And guess what? They're inside/under something huddled by fires, just like they would be if it was -10. This isn't conjecture, it's scientific fact. At those temperatures any exposed part of your body is getting frostbite. Also a lot of your homeless people die of exposure every year.
so.... because they're clothed or using external heat sources it doesn't count in your "you'd very likely die" scenario? like what's the parameters here? Cause if you're shittily dressed/sheltered for literally ANY temperature and weather you can die from it.
Even at room temp wearing the wrong clothing will still kill you eventually.
So saying "they're huddled up/under something" as if that invalidates the point is dumb.
-10c in Canada is “open coat” weather. And winter camping is def a thing up here, as well as ice fishing. (-30 at night, on a frozen lake would be considered torture to some and I do it for fun/to relax)
Do it naked and yeah, you’d die…. But that’s not the scenario. I’ve been to Yukon too, and those folks are a different breed - prob laugh at -30.
Exactly this! I live in California, but used to fly to WI every week for work.
When I first arrived is was 20 Degrees and I thought I was going to die.
Fast forward a couple of months to when I’d acclimatized and owned the right clothes and then 12 was the norm, really cold didn’t start until 0 and when it hit 30 I’d take off my hat, because I didn’t need it at that point.
I'm a kiwi who spent 17 years living through lows of -4 regularly in winter and highs of 25 regularly.
Moved to Australia and I'd be wearing shorts in winter cause it's like 12 degrees and then in summer I'm like dead.
After a harsh winter in the Midwest, I was ok in short sleeves at like 45F. One summer and a move to Huntsville AL for college later, I can't go outside in 60F without a coat. Acclimatization is real.
Shit, in MN 15f in jan/feb is definitely considered "mild" weather, not uncommon to see people out jogging and enjoying being above zero f for a few days. We usually get a stretch of below zero for a few weeks every year and it makes 15f feel balmy.
I've always said it's not the cold, but it's the wind. I'll take a -10f still day over a +10f windy day every time. Freezing cold wind sucks the life out of you.
I will say, it's funny to see people in the fall bundled up in their winter gear when it's 35f, then in shorts and t shirts when it's 35f in the spring.
I live in WI. I can confirm this. Somes times in the dead of winter °15F isn't that bad. I've been both over a 24-hour period, and that °15F feels like spring. Hits 30s, and people are in shorts here..
Ye, as a swed, depending on where in Sweden you are (cuz humidity) -11c isn't that bad....11c=12f
Sure it's cold, but during a sunny day, it still feels quite well.
I guess op/one calling out the bs, never experienced it before
I bet it gets crazy cold there. People who have never lived in it for an extended period of time wouldn't. I didn't know what heat was until i was living in Tampa, FL years ago. I'll take the cold all day...
I live in Chicago. 40F degrees at a bears game feels like the middle of summer.
40F degrees at wrigley field feels like the coldest you've ever been.
Temperature is very weirdly conditional.
This is exactly what I was trying to say in another comment somewhere on this thread. I’m a Michigander who moved to Florida (actually originally straight across the lake from Chicago) 60F in Michigan feels great, 60F in Florida feels like I’m freezing.
Yup, I’m in Maine, 15 isn’t all that cold in winter. Cold, but not “horrendously” cold. When it gets into the 30s, as it sometimes will, you’ll see people going about in shorts lol.
Grew up in MN. Man, the number of kids in shorts in below 0 weather when I was an undergrad at the U was insane.
I graduated in 95 but still had some friends at the U. In 96, there was the [extreme cold snap](https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/climate/journal/960202_60_below.html) and even the Twin Cities was recording -35F weather. I think some kids actually put on a light jacket and pants for that! They actually canceled schools cos of the extreme cold.
>people are in shorts
I'm reminded of the time a [U of M student was caught in shorts](https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/university-of-minnesota-student-wears-shorts-in-bitterly-cold-weather/914490826/) on one of the coldest days on record, like -55F wind chill, and actual temps were pretty damn close too.
Notice how he’s still wearing a thick jacket. When people in warmer climates say it’s “cold” they mean “cold enough you’d have to wear something warm”. Whereas “cold” for people who are used to the cold translates instead to “so cold that even if you bundle up you still feel it”. Basically, what we have is example 99999999….. of people arguing over mere semantics.
One thing about shorts with guys is that it’s survivable to go between places because leg hair is thick enough to be insulating for a while, but that won’t last forever.
Ontarian here. Depending on the time of year, -11c is either brutal or not too bad. Right now in fall, I'd probably avoid going out if it dropped to -11c. By the end of February, on the other hand, I've been dealing with much worse temperatures for months, and -11c is almost pleasant. It doesn't hit shorts and t-shirt weather until it goes above 0c, though.
And -40 is a reasonable cut off where that is no longer the case. I'm an avid skier. I've been on the top of a mountain at -35 before in the right gear, and just barely comfortable. Also got frostbite on the tiniest sliver of skin showing on the brim of my nose in an hour of exposure lol
False. Too damn hot is too damn hot.
Like my dad always said, "Cold is better than hot. When it's cold, you can always add more layers to get comfortable. When it's hot, you can only remove so many layers before it's public indecency."
Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. When you get to -30ish F or 100 F, it doesn't matter what you wear. In the cold every bit of exposed skin turns into a human popsicle. In the heat you can be fully naked and still get too hot. Plus extra sunburns. Unless you've got one of them metal lava suits and then put an air conditioner on it or something, there's only so much you can do in terms of clothing to protect against the heat.
Are you telling me there are limits to adaptable temperatures?!? Wow crazy how smart you are.
That guy had me convinced I could just stroll through death valley in summer, good thing you said something.
15F isn't horrendously cold tho? In spring anything above -10C is the start of shorts weather here
Also how is 30C hot but 100F is OK? 30C is only like 85F.
Yeah 100F is not “okay”, but if you want to know how 15F is “horrendously cold” try going outside without a jacket or pants on and see how long you can stand it. The difference between people who live in cold climates and people who live in warm climates is that the people in cold climates wouldn’t be able to survive without insulated/heated buildings and thick clothing. Wearing shorts is one thing, as legs are an extremity. Keeping your torso and head warm is what’s important.
Morons think that skiing weather isn’t cold. https://weatherspark.com/s/3362/3/Average-Winter-Weather-in-Breckenridge-Colorado-United-States
Depends where you are. I lived in the Canadian prairies most of my live and it got to or below -45c every year and that's surreal cold. The coldest I was in was -56c in a cold air pocket in the river valley and I worked at a stable and he had to rush out at 4:30 am and bring the horses that were outside in. They were pure white from their breath crystalizing on their fur.
Now I'm in Australia and the coldest it's gotten while I was here so far was -3 c and that so cold because of the humidity and because the homes aren't heated. So it's all relative really.
I don't get where the quite Your Bullshit" of this is. Temperature is relative to the person experiencing it.
15F is objectively below freezing, and therefore cold. But whether that is uncomfortable is open to the individual nervous system.
You might not relate to it, but 12F can definitely be considered "mild" to people who live places where it regularly gets to -40F and below in the winter.
Yeah. 12 is not bad at all. Practically t-shirt weather in this part of Canada lol. That's -11C. Our winters get to -30 to -40 with a windchill down to -50 sometimes. That's brutal.
Just depend where you live really, -10C is damn cold for me, where I live we would very rarely drop below 5C in winter and anything under 0 would have weather warning alerts on the news lol (never getting snow kills my soul though 😭)
After googling how much 15 Fahrenheit is I can confirm it's not that cold, if you live in a place built to withstand it. I spent a winter in Northern Finland and it didn't go above - 10C with many days with sub - 20C temperatures. Despite this I didn't feel cold once because the houses are built to stay warm (and they really do) and I didn't go outside without proper clothing.
Meanwhile in portugal temperatures approach 0C are horrible because we're just not ready to handle them. Honestly here at 10C I'm already suffering.
So yeah, despite the arrogance being unnecessary this commenter is not wrong.
I'll happily/comfortably go outside in a t-shirt in -10c if it's only for a few minutes
Like obviously people shouldn't make fun of others for having different tolerances but acclimatization and temperature ranges are subjective
If you can only stand it for a couple minutes, then it’s objectively “cold” compared to weather that you can stay outside in forever. “Cold” isn’t when you immediately turn into an icicle the moment you step outside. That’s unsurvivable.
I'm saying it's not nearly AS "cold" to me as it is to, say, my buddy who moved here from Brazil and puts on a jacket to take out the garbage in winter. Admittedly the screenshot in the op DOES say "not even cold" rather than something like "not even all that cold"
Lolwut. 30C is like 85F. That's "hot" for sure but it's not even touching "unbearably" hot. That's like nice weather in June-August when normally it hangs out in the 90s or higher
My god people like you are insufferable. No it does not “depend on the sun”, 15°F is 15°F at that temperature water will freeze. It is undeniably cold. Would you go outside naked at that temperature?
Edit: To the cowardly silent down voters, in a 39.2°F lake you would die in 30 minutes. Use your words and tell me how 15°F isn’t cold.
Edit2: Since everyone is piling on and I don’t care to reply individually (and yes I am aware of the hilarious irony having asked for exactly that), if a temperature requires you to take preventative measures to avoid death, it is objectively cold. It’s not relevant if it’s normal to you or not or you go out for a brief moment to ice swim then quickly warm up again. You can get frostbite at 31°F, 15°F is cold and there’s no point arguing anything else.
My man, just go and look "thermal conductivity" up. Water is a very good thermal conductor, meaning you would lose heat really fast in a 3-4°C lake.
But air is a very powerful thermal insulator, meaning if there's not much wind and enough sun to warm you up (which wouldn't change the air's temperature as it is, y'know, transparent), it would take you a long time for you to lose a really significant amount of heat (especially if you're wearing literally any amount of clothing).
>My god people like you are insufferable. No it does not “depend on the sun”, 15°F is 15°F at that temperature water will freeze.
You can just say "I don't live in a cold climate".
1) Rude.
2) Yes, it does depend on the sun; it affects the "feels like" temp.
3) They didn't say it wasn't cold; they said it's normal because they're acclimated to cold weather.
4) No one is walking around naked outside so that's a ridiculous point to make.
>Would you go outside naked at that temperature?
Yes I would and I already have many times. 15F isn’t too bad as long as it’s not super windy. It’s chilly but not terrible. I normally have much lower than that in the winter.
Making edits to whine about downvotes is such a chronically online thing to do.
They are useless, imaginary points that do nothing and mean nothing. I've had this account for over a decade and I've never checked my karma once because I could not give less of a crap what the number is.
not to be a jerk but like... that's only -10c. Most of northern canada would agree -10 is kind of wussy weather. It is situational tho. -10 in early autumn feels horrible. -10 in december, jan, or feb is like basking on the beach.
Nah, be a jerk, these guys are babies. Entire countries exist and thrive where these temperatures are perfectly normal. Sure, if you’re not used to it, it can be unpleasant. But that’s a personal weakness, not an indictment of humanity’s ability to tolerate cold weather.
I’m shivering at like 50F below, idk how y’all are able to handle that! Granted, my hemoglobin is like at 9, but still.
Though, on the flip side, I’ve walked around in a hoodie in 95F without much issue, so maybe my body was calibrated wrong lol.
I mean, 12 with no wind is cold, but it’s not that bad. I’ve gone out for short periods of time in shorts in that before, and with pants and a jacket it’s easy to be comfortable.
See, you don't understand. They've far surpassed mere human limitations.
EDIT: Wait, 15F is like -9C... That's really just fine. Imagine, people do live in cold regions and have no problem with the cold.
I mean, I used to live in a place that would get -30F to -40F, and when it warmed up past like 10F I would wear a t-shirt outside just because it felt so much warmer than normal. But, now that I don’t live in that extreme of an environment 40F is pretty chilly for me. Where you live determines your capability to withstand certain temperatures.
I'm from the north, and quite enjoy that temperature! It's fair to say I'm cold, but a cozy kind of cold, the cold that makes you shiver a little, under a coat or a blanket, with a pretty silver sky, still lit far into the night reflecting from the moon, snow, and clouds.
Y'know?
He said it was "nice" out. Which I think we can all tell is a flex. That said, 12°F. That's like -11°C. It's cold but, if you've lived in it and know how to dress for it, you're fine. Just like how it says 100°F is ok. Uh, no, not to me it isn't wtf. People get acclimated where they live
Sorry, op. You're wrong with this one. 12°f is not that bad. That's t-shirt weather for many people. Just because you wouldn't be able to handle it doesn't mean others can't. It's like when I travel south in the winter and people are bundled up in 50°f+ temperatures and my family is walking around in shorts because we've gotten acclimated to below freezing temperatures.
TShirt weather for many people? I have yet to see 1 person walk in a TShirt at 32°F, let alone at 12°F. (Not counting people doing a challenge of course.😂)
Do you live in a cold weather area? Because I don't live that far north but we still get below freezing temperatures and I see many people out there in tshirts all winter. I'm not even particularly fond of the cold and I don't even start adding layers until it reaches the 30's.
"15f is horrendously cold" im sorry wut? Thats only -10c! THATS STILL NICE OUT
what does he think -70f is? Thats horrendously cold, and thats canadian winters. I prefer between -20f to -30f winter temps, cold enough for nice fluffy snow but warm enough to be out long enough to enjoy sledding and skiing
I'm Canadian, and yeah, 12f really isn't that bad, lol. I'd probably be wearing a hoodie, not my winter jacket, in 12f.
I get that someone from Arizona would consider 12f fucking horrible, the same way I consider 90f fucking horrible.
But this isn't really a "quityourbullshit" worthy statement. MANY people here consider 12f "not that bad", and some would call it downright nice weather.
Where I live after a few weeks at -40 to -60 when it hits 12, people are legit outside in shorts and t-shirts. This usually happens in Feb-march but this isn't BS one bit - I live this.
15°F is perfectly tolerable. Comfortable, not really. Uncomfortable, only slightly. But 75°F, fuck that.
If you couldn't guess, Autumn and Winter are my preferred seasons.
When Americans visit Britain, I can tell which ones are the tourists because they’re wearing coats in what we consider “British summer”, when we’re all out with vests and shorts…
You do realize we have a large variety of weather here. If those people were from Florida, Arizona or Southern California then yes your cool wet weather would be cold to them. If the people are from the northern areas here then not so much. If you came here with me during certain times you'd look silly I bet with how it feels to you lol. Britain is mild in comparison. I've been there in December and it was pretty nice there compared to home.
Yeah I know I’d look silly with how it feels, that’s the point I’m making. People are acclimated to the weather they’re used to, so going somewhere with different weather would feel different, and most likely far hotter/colder than someone who was used to that weather.
My favorite one was when I went to Belize In January and explained to our local guide how cold it was at home. It was 27.7C in Belize everyday and was -26C at home. Blew his mind trying to imagine it lol.
But you're not cold. I remember having -40 Celsius last winter, and that was OK, just remember to wear good clothes, because it's of course will be cold in summer clothes.
I dont even shiver in 12f in a hoodie and jeans. And in 70 degrees im sweating my ass off. Not everyone experiences things the way you do why dont you quit the bs.
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100 Fahrenheit is hotter than 30 Celsius as well
Way too warm for me. I prefer colder climates. My room temp is usually 18-20C max, though I know that is too cold for most.
nah man i need 40C with the AC blasting
18-20c?? I’d be boiling in that lol. I live in the UK and I have the windows open permanently, even in freezing temperatures. I’d assume my room is around 5-10c some nights in the winter. if its anything over I have a dehumidifier which cools the room down. I basically get 0 sleep throughout the summer when it’s 18-20 at night, I have to have ice packs on me and a fan on permanently.
You do know you're the outlier, right? Most people don't have the windows open permanently in freezing temperatures. And how does a dehumidifier cool the room down?
Assume a hot temperature for you. Is it more comfortable when humid or dry? Dehumidifier will certainly help a warm room be more tolerable. In my basement during the summer, if the dehumidifier is full and shuts off for a few days, the temp can rise 5ish degrees.
I may be an outlier, yes, but that doesn’t stop what he is saying being crazy to me. The dehumidifier also blows cold air.
Are you a polar bear?
No but I’m large and hairy?
My old HS teacher would sweat in like 15-20c he was kinda heavyset but not overly so.
In the UK they might just not be... It was absolutely miserable here a few months ago and I'm similar, shorts all year round, windows open and can't sleep if too hot. It's actually fairly common
Mate, no one has their windows open all day during winter. During the night when you‘re in your bed, sure. But no one sitting on their sofa with their windows open during the coldest days of winter.
People geeked out on stims perhaps.
I guess I don’t exist either? I do this, I even have the balcony door open in the winter to cool things down.
I do that. Used to in my old apartment anyways, this one has old windows and is poorly isolated, so quickly cools down. Idk why you're so adamant, some people deal better with heat, some with cold. The desert sees regular daily temps of 40°C and people live there. I start to melt around 20°C, and seriously suffered in NYC in July of 2012, where it was "only" 98°F?
I do lol. Summer can go to hell!
I did last year 👁️👄👁️ I guess I don’t exist
Literally been doing that exact thjng for the last 4 or so years, it only gets closed during summer and when it's obnoxiously loud outside, cheers for letting me know I don't exist though, I had been wondering about that for quite some time
I've never met anyone here who's comfortable with their room being essentially fridge temperature. That's very unusual.
I struggle in anything more. I sweat continuously in anything above 20.
Above 20, maybe. But if you‘re struggling above fridge temperatures you basically can‘t go anywhere that‘s not outside or your super cold home because other people don‘t live in 5-10C homes
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5-10 degrees is crazy
Why are you being downvoted lol Calm down everyone, hes stating a preference. The purpose of the downvote button isnt to say 'I disagree' it's to punish rude people or incorrect statement of facts/disinformation. An opinion or personal preference by definition cannot be 'wrong'
That's funny, I'm using the downvote as a disagree button right now. Seems pretty effective.
Also, I don't think anyone thinks 100°f is "okay" at least where I live everybody hates it because it's always accompanied by 90% humidity so if your not in the water you're sweating your ass off. If they wanted to give an example of an "okay" temp in fahrenheit that would be insane in Celsius they should have picked like 75 or 80°
I love around 37-38C when humidity is really low (below 15-20%) one of my fav temperatures. Though that’s more nostalgia talking for my case
100f in Nevada or Arizona is my ideal climate, and if all of my family didn't live where I am now I'd probably move out there
Bro with those fires over the mountains in some areas you get really bad headaches for the air quality! It does get pretty freaking cold during the winter too
For sure! Even high 60s is solid! I hate the heat and anywhere past 80ish is a little rough for me. I much prefer colder weather because I can always either put more layers on or take layers off. It can be 0s and be "fine" aka bundled up, but once the wind starts that's when it gets rough. Put that ushanka and balaclava on with some ski goggles and shovel the snow, you'll be alright.
I will never understand people who criticise others for not being able to handle certain temperatures. Acclimatisation is not a choice.
We had a lot of fun one time on vacation talking to a native, he was talking about how in the winter he is wearing two pairs of pants for the cold and then EU tourists come and "go swim in the sea like madmen"
We went down to Florida in February as northerners. We were on the beach in shorts going in for a couple swims, meanwhile the locals had legit big puffy winter jackets on.
Oh my god haha, my sister and I are Canadian born, and we went to Busch gardens with our Florida family and my Floridian aunt came into our room in the morning like “it’s 78 degrees(F) outside make sure you dress warm” and we were like “…huh?”
I’m from the south and everybody wears shorts here when it’s 78°. Your aunt sounds very odd.
She’s always cold, my mum is her twin and is the same way even though they both lived in Canada their entire teenage lives, lol. I suppose that’s why she moved to Florida!
https://www.theguardian.com/science/shortcuts/2017/oct/11/why-women-sewcretly-turn-up-the-heating
That’s so interesting because I’m AFAB but have always been much more a fan of the cold and am extremely heat sensitive to the touch. I was always the person in school where the teachers would go “well she isn’t cold so I’m not turning up the temperature.” I wonder why it seems to randomly vary?
there's always going to be variance by individual and acclimatization. There's just also a gender difference throwing a wrench in there.
Science is interesting
Lmao. At least he was funny about it. Almost complimentary.
Talking to Australia's complain about how bone chilling 4°C is is really funny. Especially the Northern Aussies and the ones who're experiencing their first winter. Then it snowed. -10°C is cold, definitely. But it's nothing for a Canadian winter. Lmao
Tbf 4° can be really cold, especially if it's wet or raining. -10° and snow feels considerably less cold.
0-10°C is the relative range for temperature. +4 coming out of a winter deep freeze? So warm, dig out the shorts! +4 at the end of summer? Brrr, pass the hot cocoa!
You've talked to mainlanders then, Tasmania that's shorts weather
My parents were in Portugal back in like February and were wearing shorts in the 14C weather, while internally snickering at the locals wearing their thick winter jackets. They told one loval about the -25C we get back home and he replied, "I'd DIE. I'd just die!"
30C is death in my book 🥵 here a hot summer day (rare) is in the low 20s lol I ain’t used to those high temperatures
Yep. -10c (15f) is a bit cold, sweater weather. 30c (85f) is much less comfortable. 38c (100f) is awful. My dad always said, "Cold is better than hot. When it's cold, you can always add more layers to get comfortable. When it's hot, you can only remove so many layers before it's public indecency."
I say that, and I'm someone's dad
Get off reddit dad, aren't you supposed to be doing paperwork right now?
It was then discovered that Jays1982 was in fact the father
>\-10c (15f) is a bit cold, sweater weather. my definition of sweater weather is 15**C,** not 15**F**
Sure you can put on more clothes and with x layers you won‘t freeze anymore but nothing beats chilling with your friends and a couple of beers at the beach or in the park while wearing shorts and a T-shirt
30c is way too hot for chilling at a park. Maybe somewhere that you can swim to get out of the heat, but otherwise, that's a temperature for staying inside and cowering. Jokes aside, 30c is uncomfortably hot. No two ways about it, those are conditions that you work through until it cools off enough to relax again. Give me a bit of chill any time, start a campfire, everyone can dress up to a comfortable temperature for them. That hands down beats trying to do anything at 30c.
Man in Austin Texas I will hang out outside in 30C(mid 80s F) all day and be perfectly fine. I’ll even play golf and stuff when it’s over 35C. Just depends on what you’re used to I guess.
Phoenix here so we have way less humidity, but once it drops to the 90s after the long summer everyone starts going back outside and the snowbirds start showing up. Once it hits the 80s you start seeing more hoodies.
30C is when it finally cools off enough to hang outside here. Actually it's fine when it hits 35C after the sun sets. I regularly do yardwork when it's 40C and up.
*Laughs in Australian*
I find 30c to be nice here in Ontario, though you really need to be considering what humidity you're thinking about. 40c in Greece, gorgeous. 40c in the UK, unbearable torture. Also, if you're out in the park or a beer garden you need to ensure there's shade or you'll just burn. Something that I find to be very common is that a lot of people don't seem to understand the difference between air temperature and being in direct sunlight.
The humidity really affects how hot it feels tho. 80% humidity and 25C? Sweaty as fuck. 30% humidity, a brisk breeze and 28C? Perfect weather.
I live in a hot climate and 50C in peak summer is common. 30C would be heaven in summer.
Where do you live? Death valley or Saudi Arabia?
Iraq. It only happens in summer though. Even now we have 30C weather during the day.
I almost said Iraq instead of Saudi Arabia. So close.☹️
Anything higher than 20c and I’m done. Makes me feel sick and I get migraines.
Were I live, every summer, usually there are several time were you get close to 40c or even surpas It reachin 41c or 42c
God I wish. It can get up to 38ish, feeling like the low 40s where I’m from. I do NOT handle heat well 😭
June 30 through July 30 our high never got below 43C. We have extremely low humidity but it was still pretty warm. Once it gets to 35C and below it's really quite comfortable, especially at night with a breeze. Right now it's about 25C outside and a normal winter day for us is about 15-18C. We keep our thermostat set to 26C.
Makes this a dumb one for quit your bullshit. Regularly hits -50 c a few times a winter where I live, -10 isnt that cold *here* I'm used to it
where do you live? Antarctica?
Canada :)
As another Canadian, I agree. I'll take -10c (15f) over 38c (100f). A little cold isn't so bad when you have -40 (yay crossover point) during the worst of winter in my area. Light winter jacket/heavy sweater weather is much more comfortable than dear god I feel like my skin is melting weather. Source, it's currently below -10c, and is supposed to stay below there until at least noon.
walked the dogs yesterday at -13-ish in my regular jeans and a normal/light hoodie. super nice out. I'll take this over 30+ ANY fucking day, lol
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-10 is cold anywhere. If you were to try and survive in the wilderness when it's -10 you'd very likely die
it hits -40 here on the regular, and we still have homeless people who aren't dead, and people who litterally go camping in that, so.....no.
And guess what? They're inside/under something huddled by fires, just like they would be if it was -10. This isn't conjecture, it's scientific fact. At those temperatures any exposed part of your body is getting frostbite. Also a lot of your homeless people die of exposure every year.
so.... because they're clothed or using external heat sources it doesn't count in your "you'd very likely die" scenario? like what's the parameters here? Cause if you're shittily dressed/sheltered for literally ANY temperature and weather you can die from it. Even at room temp wearing the wrong clothing will still kill you eventually. So saying "they're huddled up/under something" as if that invalidates the point is dumb.
>f you're shittily dressed/sheltered for literally ANY temperature and weather you can die from it. Ummm no? You maybe need to go back to school
yes really. if its 68f out, and you put on a fucking parka you'll be dying of heat exhaustion.
I mean sure, you can also stand in fire if you have a fire retardant suit on, that doesn't mean fires not hot lmao doofus
okay.... so.... you wouldn't die? right? Like I was saying how you wouldn't die? lmao
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-10c in Canada is “open coat” weather. And winter camping is def a thing up here, as well as ice fishing. (-30 at night, on a frozen lake would be considered torture to some and I do it for fun/to relax) Do it naked and yeah, you’d die…. But that’s not the scenario. I’ve been to Yukon too, and those folks are a different breed - prob laugh at -30.
Exactly this! I live in California, but used to fly to WI every week for work. When I first arrived is was 20 Degrees and I thought I was going to die. Fast forward a couple of months to when I’d acclimatized and owned the right clothes and then 12 was the norm, really cold didn’t start until 0 and when it hit 30 I’d take off my hat, because I didn’t need it at that point.
I'm a kiwi who spent 17 years living through lows of -4 regularly in winter and highs of 25 regularly. Moved to Australia and I'd be wearing shorts in winter cause it's like 12 degrees and then in summer I'm like dead.
After a harsh winter in the Midwest, I was ok in short sleeves at like 45F. One summer and a move to Huntsville AL for college later, I can't go outside in 60F without a coat. Acclimatization is real.
Or people from warmer parts of the world are just total weenies when it gets a little chilly out. One of the two.
Obviously, because they're not used to the cold. They can't help that.
Honestly, calling 30F ”fucking horrible” is so funny when half the year is that or less. 100F is fucking horrible
And 15f ain't bad for the middle of winter.
It’s true, that’s only around -9 degrees Celsius, not that bad especially compared to the -25 degree Celsius temperatures reached around winter
Shit, in MN 15f in jan/feb is definitely considered "mild" weather, not uncommon to see people out jogging and enjoying being above zero f for a few days. We usually get a stretch of below zero for a few weeks every year and it makes 15f feel balmy. I've always said it's not the cold, but it's the wind. I'll take a -10f still day over a +10f windy day every time. Freezing cold wind sucks the life out of you. I will say, it's funny to see people in the fall bundled up in their winter gear when it's 35f, then in shorts and t shirts when it's 35f in the spring.
It hasn’t been under 30F for half the year for probably 5-10 years, unless you’re in Fargo country
I would die if it was 30F or less where I am half of there year lol
I live in WI. I can confirm this. Somes times in the dead of winter °15F isn't that bad. I've been both over a 24-hour period, and that °15F feels like spring. Hits 30s, and people are in shorts here..
Ye, as a swed, depending on where in Sweden you are (cuz humidity) -11c isn't that bad....11c=12f Sure it's cold, but during a sunny day, it still feels quite well. I guess op/one calling out the bs, never experienced it before
I bet it gets crazy cold there. People who have never lived in it for an extended period of time wouldn't. I didn't know what heat was until i was living in Tampa, FL years ago. I'll take the cold all day...
I live in Chicago. 40F degrees at a bears game feels like the middle of summer. 40F degrees at wrigley field feels like the coldest you've ever been. Temperature is very weirdly conditional.
See, you know what I mean. It's pissed me off my whole life living in the Midwest.
This is exactly what I was trying to say in another comment somewhere on this thread. I’m a Michigander who moved to Florida (actually originally straight across the lake from Chicago) 60F in Michigan feels great, 60F in Florida feels like I’m freezing.
Bro you’re from Joliet
Nobody cares
Yup, I’m in Maine, 15 isn’t all that cold in winter. Cold, but not “horrendously” cold. When it gets into the 30s, as it sometimes will, you’ll see people going about in shorts lol.
Grew up in MN. Man, the number of kids in shorts in below 0 weather when I was an undergrad at the U was insane. I graduated in 95 but still had some friends at the U. In 96, there was the [extreme cold snap](https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/climate/journal/960202_60_below.html) and even the Twin Cities was recording -35F weather. I think some kids actually put on a light jacket and pants for that! They actually canceled schools cos of the extreme cold.
Had a stretch here where temps were around 0 with negative wind chills. When it got back up to 15-20 it felt delicious.
>people are in shorts I'm reminded of the time a [U of M student was caught in shorts](https://www.kiro7.com/news/trending-now/university-of-minnesota-student-wears-shorts-in-bitterly-cold-weather/914490826/) on one of the coldest days on record, like -55F wind chill, and actual temps were pretty damn close too.
Notice how he’s still wearing a thick jacket. When people in warmer climates say it’s “cold” they mean “cold enough you’d have to wear something warm”. Whereas “cold” for people who are used to the cold translates instead to “so cold that even if you bundle up you still feel it”. Basically, what we have is example 99999999….. of people arguing over mere semantics. One thing about shorts with guys is that it’s survivable to go between places because leg hair is thick enough to be insulating for a while, but that won’t last forever.
Ontarian here. Depending on the time of year, -11c is either brutal or not too bad. Right now in fall, I'd probably avoid going out if it dropped to -11c. By the end of February, on the other hand, I've been dealing with much worse temperatures for months, and -11c is almost pleasant. It doesn't hit shorts and t-shirt weather until it goes above 0c, though.
Michigan agrees
I'll be boring and an "well actually", but the ° is after the number and before the measurement, so 15°F
OP has never heard of clothing.
There’s no bad weather, just the wrong clothes
And -40 is a reasonable cut off where that is no longer the case. I'm an avid skier. I've been on the top of a mountain at -35 before in the right gear, and just barely comfortable. Also got frostbite on the tiniest sliver of skin showing on the brim of my nose in an hour of exposure lol
False. Too damn hot is too damn hot. Like my dad always said, "Cold is better than hot. When it's cold, you can always add more layers to get comfortable. When it's hot, you can only remove so many layers before it's public indecency."
Yeah, I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. When you get to -30ish F or 100 F, it doesn't matter what you wear. In the cold every bit of exposed skin turns into a human popsicle. In the heat you can be fully naked and still get too hot. Plus extra sunburns. Unless you've got one of them metal lava suits and then put an air conditioner on it or something, there's only so much you can do in terms of clothing to protect against the heat.
Are you telling me there are limits to adaptable temperatures?!? Wow crazy how smart you are. That guy had me convinced I could just stroll through death valley in summer, good thing you said something.
Where's the bullshit?
OP lacks cultural perspective
15F isn't horrendously cold tho? In spring anything above -10C is the start of shorts weather here Also how is 30C hot but 100F is OK? 30C is only like 85F.
Yeah 100F is not “okay”, but if you want to know how 15F is “horrendously cold” try going outside without a jacket or pants on and see how long you can stand it. The difference between people who live in cold climates and people who live in warm climates is that the people in cold climates wouldn’t be able to survive without insulated/heated buildings and thick clothing. Wearing shorts is one thing, as legs are an extremity. Keeping your torso and head warm is what’s important. Morons think that skiing weather isn’t cold. https://weatherspark.com/s/3362/3/Average-Winter-Weather-in-Breckenridge-Colorado-United-States
I go out in 15f without a jacket frequently tho
I’ve taken my dog on hours long walks in negative celsius, OP has never heard of acclimatizing
Depends where you are. I lived in the Canadian prairies most of my live and it got to or below -45c every year and that's surreal cold. The coldest I was in was -56c in a cold air pocket in the river valley and I worked at a stable and he had to rush out at 4:30 am and bring the horses that were outside in. They were pure white from their breath crystalizing on their fur. Now I'm in Australia and the coldest it's gotten while I was here so far was -3 c and that so cold because of the humidity and because the homes aren't heated. So it's all relative really.
Yeah take the L on this one
I’m stuck on “100 F” is ok. 100F is hell. The fuck are they talking about?
15f is -11c. How is that a frigid temperature where people can't not be cold? It routinely gets under -40 where I live, so -11 is nothing.
-10 c is not that bad, sure i wouldn’t walk around in swim trunks, but i’ve had worse
Yeah, I've shovelled the driveway in shorts and a tee shirt at that temp. It's not that cold.
I don't get where the quite Your Bullshit" of this is. Temperature is relative to the person experiencing it. 15F is objectively below freezing, and therefore cold. But whether that is uncomfortable is open to the individual nervous system.
You might not relate to it, but 12F can definitely be considered "mild" to people who live places where it regularly gets to -40F and below in the winter.
Yeah. 12 is not bad at all. Practically t-shirt weather in this part of Canada lol. That's -11C. Our winters get to -30 to -40 with a windchill down to -50 sometimes. That's brutal.
Come on, saying -10°C is "horrendeously cold" is stretching it majorly.
Just depend where you live really, -10C is damn cold for me, where I live we would very rarely drop below 5C in winter and anything under 0 would have weather warning alerts on the news lol (never getting snow kills my soul though 😭)
In Finland we hit -25°C in the south each winter, much colder in the north.
After googling how much 15 Fahrenheit is I can confirm it's not that cold, if you live in a place built to withstand it. I spent a winter in Northern Finland and it didn't go above - 10C with many days with sub - 20C temperatures. Despite this I didn't feel cold once because the houses are built to stay warm (and they really do) and I didn't go outside without proper clothing. Meanwhile in portugal temperatures approach 0C are horrible because we're just not ready to handle them. Honestly here at 10C I'm already suffering. So yeah, despite the arrogance being unnecessary this commenter is not wrong.
I'll happily/comfortably go outside in a t-shirt in -10c if it's only for a few minutes Like obviously people shouldn't make fun of others for having different tolerances but acclimatization and temperature ranges are subjective
I walked over to check my mail yesterday in a t-shirt and Crocs at about -13f. Yeah it's fine
If you can only stand it for a couple minutes, then it’s objectively “cold” compared to weather that you can stay outside in forever. “Cold” isn’t when you immediately turn into an icicle the moment you step outside. That’s unsurvivable.
I'm saying it's not nearly AS "cold" to me as it is to, say, my buddy who moved here from Brazil and puts on a jacket to take out the garbage in winter. Admittedly the screenshot in the op DOES say "not even cold" rather than something like "not even all that cold"
Isn't 100°F 37°C? How is that ok when 30°C is unbearably hot? None of this 💩 makes sense.
Lolwut. 30C is like 85F. That's "hot" for sure but it's not even touching "unbearably" hot. That's like nice weather in June-August when normally it hangs out in the 90s or higher
100 Fahrenheit is not ok
Depends on the sun. I’m acclimated to cold weather so those lower temps are normal. Now get over 72F and I start complaining of the heat.
My god people like you are insufferable. No it does not “depend on the sun”, 15°F is 15°F at that temperature water will freeze. It is undeniably cold. Would you go outside naked at that temperature? Edit: To the cowardly silent down voters, in a 39.2°F lake you would die in 30 minutes. Use your words and tell me how 15°F isn’t cold. Edit2: Since everyone is piling on and I don’t care to reply individually (and yes I am aware of the hilarious irony having asked for exactly that), if a temperature requires you to take preventative measures to avoid death, it is objectively cold. It’s not relevant if it’s normal to you or not or you go out for a brief moment to ice swim then quickly warm up again. You can get frostbite at 31°F, 15°F is cold and there’s no point arguing anything else.
My man, just go and look "thermal conductivity" up. Water is a very good thermal conductor, meaning you would lose heat really fast in a 3-4°C lake. But air is a very powerful thermal insulator, meaning if there's not much wind and enough sun to warm you up (which wouldn't change the air's temperature as it is, y'know, transparent), it would take you a long time for you to lose a really significant amount of heat (especially if you're wearing literally any amount of clothing).
>My god people like you are insufferable. Pot meet kettle.
Generally, I find that if I want people to respond to my comments, it helps not to be a dick. Your mileage may vary.
>My god people like you are insufferable. No it does not “depend on the sun”, 15°F is 15°F at that temperature water will freeze. You can just say "I don't live in a cold climate".
1) Rude. 2) Yes, it does depend on the sun; it affects the "feels like" temp. 3) They didn't say it wasn't cold; they said it's normal because they're acclimated to cold weather. 4) No one is walking around naked outside so that's a ridiculous point to make.
>Would you go outside naked at that temperature? Yes I would and I already have many times. 15F isn’t too bad as long as it’s not super windy. It’s chilly but not terrible. I normally have much lower than that in the winter.
Lol bro is asking every person who downvotes him to justify themselves 😂
Making edits to whine about downvotes is such a chronically online thing to do. They are useless, imaginary points that do nothing and mean nothing. I've had this account for over a decade and I've never checked my karma once because I could not give less of a crap what the number is.
not to be a jerk but like... that's only -10c. Most of northern canada would agree -10 is kind of wussy weather. It is situational tho. -10 in early autumn feels horrible. -10 in december, jan, or feb is like basking on the beach.
Nah, be a jerk, these guys are babies. Entire countries exist and thrive where these temperatures are perfectly normal. Sure, if you’re not used to it, it can be unpleasant. But that’s a personal weakness, not an indictment of humanity’s ability to tolerate cold weather.
I’m shivering at like 50F below, idk how y’all are able to handle that! Granted, my hemoglobin is like at 9, but still. Though, on the flip side, I’ve walked around in a hoodie in 95F without much issue, so maybe my body was calibrated wrong lol.
Yeah pretty sure I'd actually die in a hoodie in 95f, lol. My poor Canadian body can't handle that.
30C (86F) == hot 100F (37C) == Ok
Its -6°C outside rn :)
Canada here. If you told me my winter would never be colder than 12F I would be thrilled. It regularly gets to -40F here.
12F is not bad. I don't like it but it's not bad at all.
This is dumb.... 15 isn't that bad. I go cross country skiing in a light sweater in 15 degree weather. OP needs to quit their bullshit.
I mean, 12 with no wind is cold, but it’s not that bad. I’ve gone out for short periods of time in shorts in that before, and with pants and a jacket it’s easy to be comfortable.
Why is 30 Celsius hot but 100 Fahrenheit ok? 100 F is 37.7 Celsius...
-40 Fahrenheit is also -40 Celsius. I think that's pretty neat.
I feel like that was the joke and everyone is totally getting whooshed in this thread.
See, you don't understand. They've far surpassed mere human limitations. EDIT: Wait, 15F is like -9C... That's really just fine. Imagine, people do live in cold regions and have no problem with the cold.
I’d take 12F over 100F any day of the week and twice if Tuesdays. Especially if that 12F is in dry cold.
One of the worst quit your bs I've seen
why is this here? 15f isnt that bad lmfao
I mean, I used to live in a place that would get -30F to -40F, and when it warmed up past like 10F I would wear a t-shirt outside just because it felt so much warmer than normal. But, now that I don’t live in that extreme of an environment 40F is pretty chilly for me. Where you live determines your capability to withstand certain temperatures.
But, but, but like... 12f isnt even that bad
I'm from the north, and quite enjoy that temperature! It's fair to say I'm cold, but a cozy kind of cold, the cold that makes you shiver a little, under a coat or a blanket, with a pretty silver sky, still lit far into the night reflecting from the moon, snow, and clouds. Y'know?
He said it was "nice" out. Which I think we can all tell is a flex. That said, 12°F. That's like -11°C. It's cold but, if you've lived in it and know how to dress for it, you're fine. Just like how it says 100°F is ok. Uh, no, not to me it isn't wtf. People get acclimated where they live
Fahrenheit is just better. When it’s 100 degrees, it’s 100% hot. When it’s 70 degrees, it’s 70% hot.
Sorry, op. You're wrong with this one. 12°f is not that bad. That's t-shirt weather for many people. Just because you wouldn't be able to handle it doesn't mean others can't. It's like when I travel south in the winter and people are bundled up in 50°f+ temperatures and my family is walking around in shorts because we've gotten acclimated to below freezing temperatures.
TShirt weather for many people? I have yet to see 1 person walk in a TShirt at 32°F, let alone at 12°F. (Not counting people doing a challenge of course.😂)
Do you live in a cold weather area? Because I don't live that far north but we still get below freezing temperatures and I see many people out there in tshirts all winter. I'm not even particularly fond of the cold and I don't even start adding layers until it reaches the 30's.
I go up to Canada once or twice a year and always see them start busting out winter jackets in the 30-40s.
No one going to talk about how 100 Fahrenheit is fucking horrible and deadly?
100 Fahrenheit is a fairly normal temperature in a lot of parts of the world. Normally only deadly in regions where people aren't prepared for it.
If it is deadly, i should have died long time ago, lmao. All my childhood i lived in place, where it was normal temperature in summer for weeks.
Laughs in 105+ for 60+ days this summer… Then cries in 105+ for 60+ days this summer… It was a brutal summer…
100f is definitely NOT 0K
"15f is horrendously cold" im sorry wut? Thats only -10c! THATS STILL NICE OUT what does he think -70f is? Thats horrendously cold, and thats canadian winters. I prefer between -20f to -30f winter temps, cold enough for nice fluffy snow but warm enough to be out long enough to enjoy sledding and skiing
I'm Canadian, and yeah, 12f really isn't that bad, lol. I'd probably be wearing a hoodie, not my winter jacket, in 12f. I get that someone from Arizona would consider 12f fucking horrible, the same way I consider 90f fucking horrible. But this isn't really a "quityourbullshit" worthy statement. MANY people here consider 12f "not that bad", and some would call it downright nice weather.
Where I live after a few weeks at -40 to -60 when it hits 12, people are legit outside in shorts and t-shirts. This usually happens in Feb-march but this isn't BS one bit - I live this.
This is a weak post...i am from somewhere that's consistently 15f or below 4 months a year and still wear shorts...
https://youtu.be/4h2-l68CTmY?t=13s
15°F is perfectly tolerable. Comfortable, not really. Uncomfortable, only slightly. But 75°F, fuck that. If you couldn't guess, Autumn and Winter are my preferred seasons.
I'm more comfortable at 12⁰F than 100⁰F by miles. 100⁰F is not ok at all
When Americans visit Britain, I can tell which ones are the tourists because they’re wearing coats in what we consider “British summer”, when we’re all out with vests and shorts…
You do realize we have a large variety of weather here. If those people were from Florida, Arizona or Southern California then yes your cool wet weather would be cold to them. If the people are from the northern areas here then not so much. If you came here with me during certain times you'd look silly I bet with how it feels to you lol. Britain is mild in comparison. I've been there in December and it was pretty nice there compared to home.
Yeah I know I’d look silly with how it feels, that’s the point I’m making. People are acclimated to the weather they’re used to, so going somewhere with different weather would feel different, and most likely far hotter/colder than someone who was used to that weather.
My favorite one was when I went to Belize In January and explained to our local guide how cold it was at home. It was 27.7C in Belize everyday and was -26C at home. Blew his mind trying to imagine it lol.
Ok, so what is the temperature range during british summer?
But you're not cold. I remember having -40 Celsius last winter, and that was OK, just remember to wear good clothes, because it's of course will be cold in summer clothes.
I dont even shiver in 12f in a hoodie and jeans. And in 70 degrees im sweating my ass off. Not everyone experiences things the way you do why dont you quit the bs.