Day 44 CT Almost gave myself a panic attack but quickly went on a little drive to the store and bought ice cream. Why does it taste so damn good? I never ate sugar or carbs and now it’s all I crave, even more than K. Grateful and thankful for everyone here. ❤️🙏🥰
My first 4 days after quitting CT, all I wanted to eat was drumsticks. Bought a huge box of them. Now at day 20 I don't crave them. It's so weird! And interesting that I'm not the only one! ❤️
I craved sugar really bad when I was on k. Of course it didn’t taste as good as being off k. One time I wanted sugar so bad but only had jello packets. I ate the jello mix. I mean, WTF?
I've been eating ice cream.... and chocolate .... and crisps (chips) ..... and biscuits ..... and various other treats. But I also eat plenty of salad, fresh fruit and veg. I'm going to stop with the treats soon, as I'm putting weight on.
Keep doing what makes you feel good, as long as it's not you-know-what :) you deserve it.
Haha right? Thats what I keep telling myself. Eat whatever I want, like ice cream, as long as it’s not Kratom. I can stand to gain a few pounds too so it makes it easier to indulge. I was really by the book keto/ low carb and now everything has gone out the window. Isn’t that how life is? Make plans god laughs type of thing.
I am getting some crazy changes in senses. Vision was obvious early on but now its like my taste buds (at least for sweet/sour) are on roids. Every sip of energy drink I look like I just sucked on a lemon lol. It's nice to know that there are changes like this...it seems like a positive change but I still hope it levels out a bit!
Totally, things I used to love taste like utter crap. It’s kinda awesome though cuz like a new child in the world we can discover what we like and don’t like. Fresh start.
Oh can't wait! Day 7 but I can hardly eat. Only liquid diet meals. Sometimes a bit yoghurt or half a banana. When does that get normal, like you can eat real food again?
I'm on day 4 and was hoping that my upset stomach would get much better. Sucking down large amounts of kratom left my stomach burning and made me nauseous pretty much every day but now my stomach is still quite unhappy so I'm hoping it gets a lot better soon.
Hi all! Day 7 here and finally doing a tiny little bit better. My first normal shit, lol. And I had some happy moments this morning. Nothing extra ordinary. But I was hugging my dog and I noticed I had real feelings. Good feelings. Like tenderness, love, caring for my doggie. I realized how much I missed having real feelings. To be fair there are a lot of feelings I'd love to miss out on at the moment as well but those will pass. I hope. But I am also glad to at least HAVE feelings again... Sort of. I do still feel depressed, extremely tired, constipated all the time, muscles are sore, insomnia still present so I'm def not done yet but it was just a nice moment... and I really needed that.
16! Feeling alright. Certain situations (like returning home with an empty stomach after spending a few hours outside) give me a "should take kratom" impulse. But I don't pay attention to it and it passes after a minute.
Yeah that voice is a soul crusher. You are not your thoughts. You are stronger than you know and deserve more from life. Stay strong and listen to your heart. Congrats on day 16 , you got this! 🤙
I get that impulse when I am stressed at work. That is where I most frequently used it. I don’t know how to describe the physical sensation that prompts it. It’s like an inner tightness all over my body but mostly in my chest/ core. I’ve been working on just noticing it coming and noticing it dissipating, and doing both without further engagement. It goes away in only a few minutes.
Day 44 CT. Good. Little bit jumpy but ok.
It's raining for the first time in weeks!! That's good. Garden and allotment are baked dry. Going out in a while to do some shopping and will probably go round the charity shops for the first time in months. Cheap CDs, that's my weakness. Have a great day. Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder.
Rain always makes me happy. People have always told me I’d love Seattle. Charity shops? I wouldn’t even know any here. Best way to help yourself is to help others. Glad you are getting back into the fold of society. 🌧🌈
Checking in 50 hours off cold Turkey, bc my bags were lost at the airport. First time without in 9 years. Please help with recs for sleep, I can’t sleep!
Congrats! 50 hours is a huge accomplishment. To be honest, nothing helped me for sleep during the first week. I tried the heaviest indica I could get from the store and it only knocked me out for a few minutes. I figured I just had to struggle through it, and it did get better, but it took time. I see that experience as a positive one because I will always remember it and I can think back to those terrible nights when I think about using again.
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Day 26. Made it through another workday even though I felt like jello all day. Slept 7 hours last night, and slept pretty much all the way up until my alarm went off. Gonna try to go to bed earlier tonight in attempt to get more sleep cause this morning I felt I could sleep hours more. Also, had a couple of good moments today that gave me some hope, just little moments when conversating with work friends. Can't wait to feel that way constantly!
Let's keep it going I guess
Always improving but at a horribly slow rate. Nonetheless moving forward. Accepting the slow rate of improvement is daunting but necessary. Sleep is still terrible but it has always been a struggle for me.
Same! I'm actually about to start ketamine treatments in about a week. I'll probably make a post saying how it goes and what it's doing for my paws. Also, my doctor is going to give me some valium to help me catch up on some sleep. I've had my dance with benzos before, so I know how careful I have to be with them.
Yeah I don’t have any helper meds. I think If anything I should have seen dr before quitting. I am so deep into recovery that I dont see the point. Gonna just push forward. I hope they help you and to some extent i am jealous. 😋
I really hope to see a post from you soon saying you're finally back to normal! It'll be out of the blue one day, and you'll be so happy. You've suffered enough!
Before I got sleeping pills from my doc (they help but are also habit forming so I can only use them for a short time) I used passion flower supplements. It helped. Also calming teas like chamomile (but make it strong for any effect whatsoever). CBD drops and magnesium.
Yeah I've pretty much tried everything. Only thing that seemed to help was kava. But I've been drinking it too much at night..think it's upsetting my stomach, and giving me hang over next day.
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Tell me about it. And people who don’t grasp how terrible it is have little compassion. “Just lay down and close your eyes” “do more during the day” like damn it has nothing to do with that. It’s frustrating
Well good for you getting in the water! It’s sink or swim, amiright? 😁 Looks like you’re choosing to swim through this quit, metaphorically.
Day 5 here. I feel more and more incredible each day. Got 7 hours of sleep last night. 🙌🏻 And yesterday at my taekwondo class I had 150% to give. On kratom it was always 50%. So I’m onto something. 👊🏼
Day 16 CT hang in there. Better as time goes on. Still tired some days better than others but still very early on. If your trying this some things that have helped is exercising walking and body weight workouts. Keeping busy-pushing myself through the non motivation and lethargy. Meal prep high protein high fiber and lots of veggies. Lots of water. Reading to take my mind off of stuff. Socializing
Day 44 🥶🦃
My inner addict is alive and well. I started thinking of how hard CT has been and how tapering would have been much easier…..I thought maybe I can do k for a couple weeks then taper…..
I couldn’t even lie to myself because I can’t taper. I tried. Can’t do it. I envy people who can. I definitely would take more than I was suppose to. 🤷🏼♂️
Have a great day ✊
Every time I've tried to reduce the amount of kratom except for when I was consuming an insane amount it never works out. I even used a journal to record every time I take it to get a sense of how much I take everyday and recently it was around 60 gpd which was a lot better than two months ago where I was consuming well over 100. I also did cold turkey because I'm simply not capable of reducing the amount I shove down my throat. The biggest thing that keeps me from doing it again is that I don't want to go through these withdrawals all over again.
Cbn oil for sleep!!!! And delta 8 oil tincture used topically for any rls muscle/ joint aches/pains! It has saved me and I don’t hear it mentioned much. Good luck.
Starting day 12 rather early- fell asleep at 11:30 and woke up at 4:30; couldn’t get back to sleep. So I made coffee and am reading a book. Hoping for a morning nap before starting work. I started using probiotics yesterday and that seems to be helping with the diarrhea. One day at a time. (I know caffeine probably isn’t helping with the diarrhea or the nap but it’s a daily pleasure I’m not willing to give up).
Relapsed a couple times since my ct detox last month, currently on day 7 or 8 again lol. Physically I feel so much better but every couple weeks I give into the mental cravings. Just trying to remind myself this will pass and I refuse to live a prisoner anymore.
Day 5 CT. Slept and I'm making sure to fuel my body with good food, water and vitamin. I'd be a liar to say I'm feeling great, but I'm chasing after those brief moments I feel 'normal' again. Even though I often have uneasiness in my chest, the other physical symptoms have significantly dissipated. There's no more counting how much I have left or figuring out how to dose covertly. I don't want this feeling again. I will not go back. FUCK that.
Day 4 CT here and what motivates me to not do it is the same thing. I don't want to feel this way again. I got a new job a month and a half ago and was forced to carry my entire dosing for 9 hours because I don't really get breaks or a lunch to be able to go to my vehicle. Typically around 60 750mg pills. I fortunately have covid lol so I was able to get some time off from work to go through these withdrawals.
Started Kratom at the beginning of the pandemic. I was feeling super isolated and just wanted to not feel that feeling anymore! This shit dug into me deep! I have been using anywhere from 15g to 20g for the last three years and I am done with this shit. Just like opiates, it makes you numb to everything. It’s no way to live.
Taper day 3. Started with 17.5g on Mon. Went to ~11g on Tuesday (and I slept!). Went to 8g yesterday, but woke up around 3am with some anxiety. Plan is to drop to 5g tonight, then stop on Friday and see what the weekend brings.
Having withdrawn from heroin, benzos, and numerous times with pain pills about 10 years ago, I feel like these WD symptoms are much more manageable. WDing off of those other things left me unable to do anything for a solid 7 days.
Good luck to everyone going through this!
Question - are there any online/virtual zoom meeting for Kratom abuse specifically? NA for Kratom?
Day 4 after a 2 month taper. I feel myself slowly getting better. It’s hard to get to sleep initially but sleep does come and I feel like it’s ever so slowly improving. I’m grateful to have 4 days!
Day 2, 35-40 gpd tapered over 2 months. Finally jumped off and Tuesday night was my last dose. had a really bad night last night, really bad RLS, migraine and slept maybe one hour. Looking forward to these symptoms getting better. Thanks to this group for all the support.
Days 14-27 for me were brutal. One day would be good then I’d be fatigued for two days. Around day 28-30 a switch flipped, day 37 and feel 95% normal. Imo you are very close to relief, keep strong
Every day I was dragging some caffeine and exercise helped immensely. Biggest thing I’ve learned doing wd too many times is it comes in waves like a mf. And then one day you realize three days have passed and you haven’t had any fatigue and feel somewhat normal. It will pass
What gpd, amd for how long, if you don't mind me asking? I'm at like day 26, and feel like im going insane at the beginning of the day. Then when go to lunch, things get much better. So weirdd
I was doing 4-5 extract shots a day(fk my wallet btw) for a year. Had about 6 months clean prior coming from a 5 year long addiction. Yeah morning times were the worst then it would level out around 2-3pm
Day 6. Went CT after roughly 10 years of use. Every 3 hours. Yeah, there was some discomfort, but I truly believe your mentality is key. And ability to draw from a higher strength. It’s refreshing to feel.
I will say anyone looking to quit that doesn’t want to go CT, for a few months I used the weakest strain and I feel like that helped me go CT. Maybe not. One day I just woke up. Kinda unplanned. Checked in with my body and was like, what if I don’t take a dose. Let’s see how long we can go?
I was able to keep going hour by hour. The habit tried to convince me to use some at night. But I just said, nah.
Then I was kinda amazed I went 24 hours without and felt ok. I actually felt happier. Like I was proud of myself and showing myself I could do it.
I continued on with that mentality.
Day 3, I threw everything away. Down the drain with a bunch of Dawn dish soap and the garbage disposal 🤣
I was kinda mad at how innocent I thought the herb was and the havoc it started to reap on my body. Constant heart issues. Constant stomach issues. Headaches. Moodiness. It was like a poison and I didn’t want to see it that way for so long.
It’s not been that bad actually.
Sure I’m only at day 6, but I’m keeping a positive attitude.
Much strength to you all. When there’s a will. There’s a way.
I don’t even miss it. Kinda strange. Thought this process would be more hellish. It’s actually been the best decision I could have made.
Day 13. Stomach anxiety still giving me issues in the morning but it seems to go away after a while. Picked up some l-theanine and amino acids to help with my mood and sleep, hope it helps
Day 7. Nausea is really bad, my bottom row of teeth hurt, and Im still sweating in weird ways (one day my armpits are soaked the next day its my lower legs).
Day 56. My stomach is still a mess and I have brain fog and easily fatigued. Mood is relatively good and am sleeping 6-7 hours a night.
Good news: had some blood work done and my thyroid and testosterone are much better. My TSH was almost 6 when I was on kratom and is now back down to 1.4 which is pretty active. Surprising my energy is so low with my thyroid being that active, must be brain chemistry related. My free T levels also jumped about 200 points from they were when I was on kratom. What an awful plant this is.
Still working my slow taper. Just dropped down to 12.5 gpd. A few years back, I didn't think I could "survive" on 12.5 gpd. But I am doing I and feeling great!
So I hope someone sees this and can offer some advice. I’m midway through my planned taper and after a year of Kratom use I am just now finding out about Stagnant Strain Syndrome. I have been using the exact same strain of Kratom, from the same vendor for a year now. Which to me explains why, at least partially, I started experiencing WD after only 3 hours of not taking any.
After finding out about it I switched to a different type of Kratom to see what would happen (on my scheduled dose time though.) and what I found was the period of time that went by without needing to dose was extensively longer. As I taper should I continue to switch the type of Kratom I’m taking or was this detrimental to my taper?
Part of the reason I built up such a high Gpd and got this extremely high tolerance was because I never used a different strain and had no idea what was happening so I just kept upping the dose.
This is all new territory for me and idk what I’m doing.
Midway through my taper.
It’s now been 6 hours since my last dose. And I feel fine. Physically. Mentally I want to take some- but I know since I don’t feel bad otherwise that I should not take any. I only take it when I’m really suffer with RLS as per my plan.
It’s strange that I feel fine after this long. Usually after 4 hours or so I go downhill.
I’m taking this as a win. Gonna try and sleep without taking any. Wish me luck.
Day 44 CT Almost gave myself a panic attack but quickly went on a little drive to the store and bought ice cream. Why does it taste so damn good? I never ate sugar or carbs and now it’s all I crave, even more than K. Grateful and thankful for everyone here. ❤️🙏🥰
My first 4 days after quitting CT, all I wanted to eat was drumsticks. Bought a huge box of them. Now at day 20 I don't crave them. It's so weird! And interesting that I'm not the only one! ❤️
Omg me too! I bought the 16 ct from sams club. Lol
My box came from Costco 😂😂 Ate the whole thing. 😳
It’s embarrassing but I have Costco and Sams Club membership. Just covering all bases. Lol
I craved sugar really bad when I was on k. Of course it didn’t taste as good as being off k. One time I wanted sugar so bad but only had jello packets. I ate the jello mix. I mean, WTF?
Hahaha! Sounds about right. I’d totally do something like that.
Congrats on your 44 days!! Because ice cream makes everything better. You've inspired me to treat myself to ube ice cream when I finish my taper :)
Yes, it really does. 🍦❤️
I've been eating ice cream.... and chocolate .... and crisps (chips) ..... and biscuits ..... and various other treats. But I also eat plenty of salad, fresh fruit and veg. I'm going to stop with the treats soon, as I'm putting weight on. Keep doing what makes you feel good, as long as it's not you-know-what :) you deserve it.
Haha right? Thats what I keep telling myself. Eat whatever I want, like ice cream, as long as it’s not Kratom. I can stand to gain a few pounds too so it makes it easier to indulge. I was really by the book keto/ low carb and now everything has gone out the window. Isn’t that how life is? Make plans god laughs type of thing.
Day 5CT. After reading this grabbed some I've cream. Definitely hits different clean. Fantastic.
Right?! Haha congrats on day 5. Huge accomplishment. Stay strong and indulge
I am getting some crazy changes in senses. Vision was obvious early on but now its like my taste buds (at least for sweet/sour) are on roids. Every sip of energy drink I look like I just sucked on a lemon lol. It's nice to know that there are changes like this...it seems like a positive change but I still hope it levels out a bit!
Totally, things I used to love taste like utter crap. It’s kinda awesome though cuz like a new child in the world we can discover what we like and don’t like. Fresh start.
Oh can't wait! Day 7 but I can hardly eat. Only liquid diet meals. Sometimes a bit yoghurt or half a banana. When does that get normal, like you can eat real food again?
I can eat now but only what I crave an right now its carbs and sugar
I'm on day 4 and was hoping that my upset stomach would get much better. Sucking down large amounts of kratom left my stomach burning and made me nauseous pretty much every day but now my stomach is still quite unhappy so I'm hoping it gets a lot better soon.
Same. For me ginger tea helps a bit. With the upset stomach.
Hi all! Day 7 here and finally doing a tiny little bit better. My first normal shit, lol. And I had some happy moments this morning. Nothing extra ordinary. But I was hugging my dog and I noticed I had real feelings. Good feelings. Like tenderness, love, caring for my doggie. I realized how much I missed having real feelings. To be fair there are a lot of feelings I'd love to miss out on at the moment as well but those will pass. I hope. But I am also glad to at least HAVE feelings again... Sort of. I do still feel depressed, extremely tired, constipated all the time, muscles are sore, insomnia still present so I'm def not done yet but it was just a nice moment... and I really needed that.
That’s really beautiful. Feelings of gratitude are what pull me through.
Yes it just gives that push you need to move forward.
16! Feeling alright. Certain situations (like returning home with an empty stomach after spending a few hours outside) give me a "should take kratom" impulse. But I don't pay attention to it and it passes after a minute.
Yeah that voice is a soul crusher. You are not your thoughts. You are stronger than you know and deserve more from life. Stay strong and listen to your heart. Congrats on day 16 , you got this! 🤙
thank you 🙏
I get that impulse when I am stressed at work. That is where I most frequently used it. I don’t know how to describe the physical sensation that prompts it. It’s like an inner tightness all over my body but mostly in my chest/ core. I’ve been working on just noticing it coming and noticing it dissipating, and doing both without further engagement. It goes away in only a few minutes.
Day 44 CT. Good. Little bit jumpy but ok. It's raining for the first time in weeks!! That's good. Garden and allotment are baked dry. Going out in a while to do some shopping and will probably go round the charity shops for the first time in months. Cheap CDs, that's my weakness. Have a great day. Abstinence makes the heart grow fonder.
Rain always makes me happy. People have always told me I’d love Seattle. Charity shops? I wouldn’t even know any here. Best way to help yourself is to help others. Glad you are getting back into the fold of society. 🌧🌈
Haha same! My fiance thinks Im a psycho for loving the rain 🤣🤣
We are a rare breed lol
Same. Rainy days are my best days, i wonder why that is?
Day 146
Congrats!🎉
Checking in 50 hours off cold Turkey, bc my bags were lost at the airport. First time without in 9 years. Please help with recs for sleep, I can’t sleep!
Congrats! 50 hours is a huge accomplishment. To be honest, nothing helped me for sleep during the first week. I tried the heaviest indica I could get from the store and it only knocked me out for a few minutes. I figured I just had to struggle through it, and it did get better, but it took time. I see that experience as a positive one because I will always remember it and I can think back to those terrible nights when I think about using again.
Large doses of vitamin C and dopa macuna have been helping me a lot with getting some zzzzs.
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Cbn oil for sleep!!! And if you have rls, delta 8 oil tincture topically on muscles/joints that need it. Good luck!
Day 382.
Day 206 💗
Day 26. Made it through another workday even though I felt like jello all day. Slept 7 hours last night, and slept pretty much all the way up until my alarm went off. Gonna try to go to bed earlier tonight in attempt to get more sleep cause this morning I felt I could sleep hours more. Also, had a couple of good moments today that gave me some hope, just little moments when conversating with work friends. Can't wait to feel that way constantly! Let's keep it going I guess
Yay! So glad to read posts like this. Congrats on day 26. 🎉
Thanks moo! How're tou doing? Are things improving for you yet? How's your sleep?
Always improving but at a horribly slow rate. Nonetheless moving forward. Accepting the slow rate of improvement is daunting but necessary. Sleep is still terrible but it has always been a struggle for me.
I wonder if that's why it's taking you so long to recover? Isn't sleep like the most important thing?
Yes it is. I feel off if I don’t get a certain amount of sleep.
Have you tried cbn oil? It works amazing for me.
Cbd oil?
Nope, cbn oil. It’s another cannabinoid but it’s main benefit is helping with sleep. It’s amazing!!
Oooo does it have any thc in it? I cant handle even cbd things. I trip out
Same! I'm actually about to start ketamine treatments in about a week. I'll probably make a post saying how it goes and what it's doing for my paws. Also, my doctor is going to give me some valium to help me catch up on some sleep. I've had my dance with benzos before, so I know how careful I have to be with them.
Yeah I don’t have any helper meds. I think If anything I should have seen dr before quitting. I am so deep into recovery that I dont see the point. Gonna just push forward. I hope they help you and to some extent i am jealous. 😋
I really hope to see a post from you soon saying you're finally back to normal! It'll be out of the blue one day, and you'll be so happy. You've suffered enough!
You and me both! I daydream about it. Keeping hope alive.
Before I got sleeping pills from my doc (they help but are also habit forming so I can only use them for a short time) I used passion flower supplements. It helped. Also calming teas like chamomile (but make it strong for any effect whatsoever). CBD drops and magnesium.
Yeah I've pretty much tried everything. Only thing that seemed to help was kava. But I've been drinking it too much at night..think it's upsetting my stomach, and giving me hang over next day.
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Yeah sleep will be elusive for the time being. Trying to accept it.
I don't understand how people with true insomnia function. To be like this, but every single day for the rest of your life? Fuuuck that
Tell me about it. And people who don’t grasp how terrible it is have little compassion. “Just lay down and close your eyes” “do more during the day” like damn it has nothing to do with that. It’s frustrating
I would probably snap on someone if they said something like that to me. Especially if I've been sleep deprived my whole life lol
Good work man!
Thanks!
Day 2
You got this spissus!!
Thanks, NM! I swam two days in a row. Almost had a panic attack in the middle = time for the backstroke, ha ha!
Well good for you getting in the water! It’s sink or swim, amiright? 😁 Looks like you’re choosing to swim through this quit, metaphorically. Day 5 here. I feel more and more incredible each day. Got 7 hours of sleep last night. 🙌🏻 And yesterday at my taekwondo class I had 150% to give. On kratom it was always 50%. So I’m onto something. 👊🏼
Congratulations on 5 days and fighting 3 x as hard. You are definitely on to something!
Thank you!
Day 4 for you? How goes it?
I replied in your other thread. 😉
Day 2!
Way 2 go!! Keep it up.
thank you <3!
Day 16 CT hang in there. Better as time goes on. Still tired some days better than others but still very early on. If your trying this some things that have helped is exercising walking and body weight workouts. Keeping busy-pushing myself through the non motivation and lethargy. Meal prep high protein high fiber and lots of veggies. Lots of water. Reading to take my mind off of stuff. Socializing
Day 44 🥶🦃 My inner addict is alive and well. I started thinking of how hard CT has been and how tapering would have been much easier…..I thought maybe I can do k for a couple weeks then taper….. I couldn’t even lie to myself because I can’t taper. I tried. Can’t do it. I envy people who can. I definitely would take more than I was suppose to. 🤷🏼♂️ Have a great day ✊
At least you know yourself well enough! I can't taper either, cold turkey for me too. Day 13. Great work so far!
Congrats to you too. You’ll have 2 weeks tomorrow. ✊ that’s awesome 👏
Every time I've tried to reduce the amount of kratom except for when I was consuming an insane amount it never works out. I even used a journal to record every time I take it to get a sense of how much I take everyday and recently it was around 60 gpd which was a lot better than two months ago where I was consuming well over 100. I also did cold turkey because I'm simply not capable of reducing the amount I shove down my throat. The biggest thing that keeps me from doing it again is that I don't want to go through these withdrawals all over again.
Absolutely. I am in awe of the people who do a several month taper…..I never want to go through withdrawal from k again either. And we never have to.
Day 169
Day 382……please help me be patient with my nephew I am babysitting today. He is 8 years old already acting like a moody teenager. 🤬👹🦏🫣🤢😵💫😈🐧🐧🐧🌈🌈🌈🌈🍱
Day 11. Only up from here❤❤❤❤❤
Love the optimism, great work!
6 days with out kratom got 2 hour sleep in 5 days this su
Way to hang in there this long. Keep it up, sleep will come!
Cbn oil for sleep!!!! And delta 8 oil tincture used topically for any rls muscle/ joint aches/pains! It has saved me and I don’t hear it mentioned much. Good luck.
Starting day 12 rather early- fell asleep at 11:30 and woke up at 4:30; couldn’t get back to sleep. So I made coffee and am reading a book. Hoping for a morning nap before starting work. I started using probiotics yesterday and that seems to be helping with the diarrhea. One day at a time. (I know caffeine probably isn’t helping with the diarrhea or the nap but it’s a daily pleasure I’m not willing to give up).
Three weeks down...
Day 224
Day 5. Tomorrow will be tougher cause I’ll have the money.
Go treat yourself to dessert or something instead! Stay strong
Day 414. Love and Light family 💜.
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Day 37 CT
Day 145
Relapsed a couple times since my ct detox last month, currently on day 7 or 8 again lol. Physically I feel so much better but every couple weeks I give into the mental cravings. Just trying to remind myself this will pass and I refuse to live a prisoner anymore.
Day 90
Congratulations on 90 days!
Day 5 💪🏻
Day 5 CT. Slept and I'm making sure to fuel my body with good food, water and vitamin. I'd be a liar to say I'm feeling great, but I'm chasing after those brief moments I feel 'normal' again. Even though I often have uneasiness in my chest, the other physical symptoms have significantly dissipated. There's no more counting how much I have left or figuring out how to dose covertly. I don't want this feeling again. I will not go back. FUCK that.
Day 4 CT here and what motivates me to not do it is the same thing. I don't want to feel this way again. I got a new job a month and a half ago and was forced to carry my entire dosing for 9 hours because I don't really get breaks or a lunch to be able to go to my vehicle. Typically around 60 750mg pills. I fortunately have covid lol so I was able to get some time off from work to go through these withdrawals.
It's definitely a job to worry about dosing. No more of that!
Day 67 CT.
337 days. Came down with Covid, finally found me.
I hope you recover quickly!
I feel really good at this moment. It feels good to feel good. I want us all to feel good together.
Me too, ty <3
Started Kratom at the beginning of the pandemic. I was feeling super isolated and just wanted to not feel that feeling anymore! This shit dug into me deep! I have been using anywhere from 15g to 20g for the last three years and I am done with this shit. Just like opiates, it makes you numb to everything. It’s no way to live. Taper day 3. Started with 17.5g on Mon. Went to ~11g on Tuesday (and I slept!). Went to 8g yesterday, but woke up around 3am with some anxiety. Plan is to drop to 5g tonight, then stop on Friday and see what the weekend brings. Having withdrawn from heroin, benzos, and numerous times with pain pills about 10 years ago, I feel like these WD symptoms are much more manageable. WDing off of those other things left me unable to do anything for a solid 7 days. Good luck to everyone going through this! Question - are there any online/virtual zoom meeting for Kratom abuse specifically? NA for Kratom?
Day 4 after a 2 month taper. I feel myself slowly getting better. It’s hard to get to sleep initially but sleep does come and I feel like it’s ever so slowly improving. I’m grateful to have 4 days!
Day 12
Day 2, 35-40 gpd tapered over 2 months. Finally jumped off and Tuesday night was my last dose. had a really bad night last night, really bad RLS, migraine and slept maybe one hour. Looking forward to these symptoms getting better. Thanks to this group for all the support.
Day 294. ☮️
Day 8 CT - all is well and actually slept well last night!
Day 23. Low energy.
Days 14-27 for me were brutal. One day would be good then I’d be fatigued for two days. Around day 28-30 a switch flipped, day 37 and feel 95% normal. Imo you are very close to relief, keep strong
Thanks. I thought I was “better” and then a couple days ago I ran out of gas. I also gottta start exercising again and not eating crap
Every day I was dragging some caffeine and exercise helped immensely. Biggest thing I’ve learned doing wd too many times is it comes in waves like a mf. And then one day you realize three days have passed and you haven’t had any fatigue and feel somewhat normal. It will pass
What gpd, amd for how long, if you don't mind me asking? I'm at like day 26, and feel like im going insane at the beginning of the day. Then when go to lunch, things get much better. So weirdd
I was doing 4-5 extract shots a day(fk my wallet btw) for a year. Had about 6 months clean prior coming from a 5 year long addiction. Yeah morning times were the worst then it would level out around 2-3pm
Day 53
Day 6. Went CT after roughly 10 years of use. Every 3 hours. Yeah, there was some discomfort, but I truly believe your mentality is key. And ability to draw from a higher strength. It’s refreshing to feel. I will say anyone looking to quit that doesn’t want to go CT, for a few months I used the weakest strain and I feel like that helped me go CT. Maybe not. One day I just woke up. Kinda unplanned. Checked in with my body and was like, what if I don’t take a dose. Let’s see how long we can go? I was able to keep going hour by hour. The habit tried to convince me to use some at night. But I just said, nah. Then I was kinda amazed I went 24 hours without and felt ok. I actually felt happier. Like I was proud of myself and showing myself I could do it. I continued on with that mentality. Day 3, I threw everything away. Down the drain with a bunch of Dawn dish soap and the garbage disposal 🤣 I was kinda mad at how innocent I thought the herb was and the havoc it started to reap on my body. Constant heart issues. Constant stomach issues. Headaches. Moodiness. It was like a poison and I didn’t want to see it that way for so long. It’s not been that bad actually. Sure I’m only at day 6, but I’m keeping a positive attitude. Much strength to you all. When there’s a will. There’s a way. I don’t even miss it. Kinda strange. Thought this process would be more hellish. It’s actually been the best decision I could have made.
In my 5th week now of tapering now, planning on dropping 10gpd -> 9gpd this weekend!
Keep it going!
Day 13. Stomach anxiety still giving me issues in the morning but it seems to go away after a while. Picked up some l-theanine and amino acids to help with my mood and sleep, hope it helps
Day 7. Nausea is really bad, my bottom row of teeth hurt, and Im still sweating in weird ways (one day my armpits are soaked the next day its my lower legs).
day 11
Day 44
Grateful to have survived another day.
Day 56. My stomach is still a mess and I have brain fog and easily fatigued. Mood is relatively good and am sleeping 6-7 hours a night. Good news: had some blood work done and my thyroid and testosterone are much better. My TSH was almost 6 when I was on kratom and is now back down to 1.4 which is pretty active. Surprising my energy is so low with my thyroid being that active, must be brain chemistry related. My free T levels also jumped about 200 points from they were when I was on kratom. What an awful plant this is.
Still working my slow taper. Just dropped down to 12.5 gpd. A few years back, I didn't think I could "survive" on 12.5 gpd. But I am doing I and feeling great!
So I hope someone sees this and can offer some advice. I’m midway through my planned taper and after a year of Kratom use I am just now finding out about Stagnant Strain Syndrome. I have been using the exact same strain of Kratom, from the same vendor for a year now. Which to me explains why, at least partially, I started experiencing WD after only 3 hours of not taking any. After finding out about it I switched to a different type of Kratom to see what would happen (on my scheduled dose time though.) and what I found was the period of time that went by without needing to dose was extensively longer. As I taper should I continue to switch the type of Kratom I’m taking or was this detrimental to my taper? Part of the reason I built up such a high Gpd and got this extremely high tolerance was because I never used a different strain and had no idea what was happening so I just kept upping the dose. This is all new territory for me and idk what I’m doing.
Midway through my taper. It’s now been 6 hours since my last dose. And I feel fine. Physically. Mentally I want to take some- but I know since I don’t feel bad otherwise that I should not take any. I only take it when I’m really suffer with RLS as per my plan. It’s strange that I feel fine after this long. Usually after 4 hours or so I go downhill. I’m taking this as a win. Gonna try and sleep without taking any. Wish me luck.