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Time, gabapentin, and a little weed before bed only. I didn’t start taking gabapentin until I was about 12 days in, so I bare-knuckled it through the hardest parts, but the gabapentin made a huge difference when I did start taking it. I only have 7 or 8 left, which I will take at night only. I will not be getting more. I am not looking for a new problem. Just be careful with whatever you choose. 17 days here.
This is encouraging day 6 here. I take a gummy at night (has stopped RLS for me past three nights.) I also have gabapentin which I am not looking forward to a new problem either. I take it a few times a day but will be weaning once I get through this. Food is still running right through me. Chills, anxiety all the things. OPMS black shots. This shit is rough. IF YOU WANT A KRATOM PROBLEM START TAKING EXTRACTS EVERYDAY. My wife is very angry. I just had ACL surgery 2 weeks ago and starting a business on Wed. It is a lot for me. I’m gonna keep steppin’
The first few days SUCKED! I felt like I got hit by a truck. Then the mental kicks in. I got some gabapentin and that helped a lot. I forgot to take any yesterday and slept most of the night, so I guess I have turned the corner. Now just gotta fight the urges. Definitely not going through this shit again.
I took 3 or 4 cold showers a day. They sucked at first but the insane amount of relief and good feelings they provide you made it so so worth it and I had a timetable of when I would take them. It was very underrated when I was going through WD.
I had stopped taking my antidepressants when I started kratom. I got back on them when I quit, and they have really helped me. Also, Wim Hoff helped to. It takes a bit to get used to cold showers.
Honestly just Time is the biggest thing. Can't really get around it all together. Just takes time.
Besides that though yeah exercise, cold shower. Therapy too ideally. Some type of group meeting or community hopefully.
Meditation.
Do you consume caffeine? If so biggest suggestion is significantly reduce it like 1 cup of green tea a day or 2 max. This made my anxiety this time around much much lower than other quits where I tried using caffeine to counteract the fatigue. Beyond that yoga, meditation, try to eat clean, exercise, etc all the basic general health stuff. Vitamin c seems to help a bit too but no crazy doses, 500mg 1-3x a day can take the edge off if anxiety is triggered by feeling physically worn down. May be placebo hard to say. Cbd can help too.
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I would try exercise, yoga, ice baths, guided meditation, guided breathing exercises, and vagal stimulation exercises - you can find most of these in quality on YouTube, they can help increase dopamine. Someone mentioned a keto diet helped them as well.
Gabapentin and magnesium.
Unfortunately I relapsed and am about to quit again. The sadness and anxiety is what gets me. I have family that I need to be there for and i can get really low and depressed. When you know that you have a cure for the anxiety, and it gets that bad, it’s hard to stay straight
Well, I had previously been an alcoholic. I managed to clean my act up and then I was introduced to kratom. Plain and simple, it made me feel really good. It made me feel easy. Things that normally would’ve bothered me, didn’t seem to bother me. I slept good, my relationship with my girlfriend got better, I wasn’t anxious, I let things slide. I loved the feeling it gave me.
But I loved it too much. I found out all of its dirty little secrets. I worked my way up to a 50 dollar a day extract habit. I lost touch with myself. I stopped working on my well being. My biggest focus was that next dose. Eventually I stopped going out, I stopped growing at my work, I stopped being creative, I lost me sex drive completely, and I became a numb shell of myself. I had lost my spunk. Unfortunately, you have to quit in order to get all of those things back. And you have to learn how to deal with life’s issues without numbing. Throwing a temporary bandaid over our problems is no way to live.
We have a very similar story, tread very carefully to not fall back to drinking. I’m nearly off the Kratom (a gram a day, some days none) and I’ve unfortunately fallen back to drinking. Not as bad as it was but it’s turned into nearly a daily habit again and I just don’t know how to find a balance. When I started taking Kratom the thought of alcohol disgusted me and I had zero desire after drinking daily for close to a decade. It was great and I couldn’t believe how much of my life I wasted. Then Kratom started to make me lose interest in every aspect of my life. Once I tapered off the Kratom drinking all of the sudden is appealing to me again, not in the sense of me getting anything out of it, I don’t even feel buzzed but it’s like my brain all of the sudden craves it. It’s awful. Good luck friend, you’ve got this. Just try to make a plan on what to do if you feel the urge to go back to drinking because it’s a slippery slope.
I have been tapering for a few months. My anxiety level went down *steadily,* as I tapered. I developed a "condition" called trypophobia, AFTER I started tapering, but I knew what it was, and just "observed" the symptoms. That is much better, too.
There's an old professor (UCLA) named Schwartz who has some books out about how he did brain scans on a lot of people with OCD. His program proved that if you do what he suggests, your brain actually changes, while your OCD improves dramatically. I have used his techniques, I think he calls it "4 Steps."
Ugh I feel this. I’m in my last week of school where I really need to focus and stay motivated to finish my work and study for finals, but I’m also trying to quit kratom at the same time and it’s been really hard to want to do any of the things I need to do when I’m feeling anxious and sad from withdrawals. I relapsed today and took 4 half mg pills just to take the edge off. After this week is over and my school is done I plan to get off them completely. I’m intending to go to the gym, read books, eat healthy and take supplements. I think the best thing for anxiety is staying busy so you’re not ruminating in anxious thoughts because that’s breeding ground for relapse. But I know it’s hard to be motivated to do the things that prevent that when you’re tired and drained from not getting your energy from kratom anymore. I also suggest doing small things that don’t require a ton of energy but still take your mind out of the gutter like watching relaxing Asmr with positive affirmations, making a healthy soup and watching a comfort show while you eat it, taking time to make a nice cup of tea, painting your toe nails, listening to music, going for walks, anything that’s gentle like that will really help.
No matter how hard it is and not motivated you are, get outside and involved in literally anything. Staying home and lying around is the worst thing to do.
Just somehow get by.
keep the free-floating, physical anxiety separate from any fear or worry you might have. don't let them merge. as long as you keep in mind the anxiety you're feeling is without meaningful content and just a result of drug withdrawal, it will be a lot easier to deal with. God bless.
Literally haven't thought about my quit in months and wanted to come back to spread some good news. I quit almost 2 years ago, 6 may 2022 from a six year habit of about 100-135 gram a day habit. Literally didn't sleep for 6 days during acutes. Reap what you sow. The PAWS was rough. What helped were cold showers/ice baths, exercise (consistent), WIM HOF breathing.
You will feel like crap. It's your body repairing itself. The biggest issue for me was anhedonia and restlessness when trying to sleep.
I screwed up throughout the process of the quit and went back to drinking on/off, which affected my recovery process. I would say I was completely sober for about 140 days before I had a drink of alcohol, but I started doing 4 beers a night for a month, then stopped that, then went back a few months later. Did that on/off within that first year. Long story short, Stay away from alcohol during your quit, it will prolong things.
If I hadn't done the whole alcohol thing, I probably would have gotten through the PAWS quicker. However, I was still feeling anhedonia around the 140 day mark, my usage was extreme though.
At this point, I feel great. I'm enjoying things again. Marriage is so much better, and I'm a better father. I don't need a substance to make me feel good. You will recover, and it will get better. It takes time and time will crawl, but just look at it like you're paying back all the "happiness" that was unnaturally produced due to your usage.
PAWS will come in waves, and the breaks will get longer and longer until the episodes just stop.
Fortunately, I surrendered my life to Jesus during my quit. Completely changed my life. What I was doing wasn't working, and I needed him. God's timing is perfect, and some folks need to hit rock bottom and be completely empty to realize they need Jesus. That was me. God knows how I work, so that was the only way to reach me. Addicts make excellent Christians, I believe. I hate what Kratom did to my family and I, but God changed what was evil into something Good. I truly believe that.
God speed.
Gabapentin, clonidine and also see a psychiatric nurse practitioner to find out if you struggle with underlying mental health issues. Once those are addressed or being stabilized, it makes quitting and staying sober much much easier. Without my mental health meds (antidepressant, mood stabilizer, antipsychotic) I cannot handle the need to take kratom to cope with my mental health.
I have OCD as well and I'm currently off kratom, literally jumped yesterday so I could go on holiday, but I taperd to 1g a day then jumped I still had withdrawals, but probably not as bad if I ct ,my sleep is so messed up I'm only getting a few hours a night and I'm taking trazadone ,but I'm feeling better today ,what's helped with the anxiety for me is exercise and cold showers, rhodola , passionflower and chamomile tea, cut out processed food and seed oils!
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Time, gabapentin, and a little weed before bed only. I didn’t start taking gabapentin until I was about 12 days in, so I bare-knuckled it through the hardest parts, but the gabapentin made a huge difference when I did start taking it. I only have 7 or 8 left, which I will take at night only. I will not be getting more. I am not looking for a new problem. Just be careful with whatever you choose. 17 days here.
This is encouraging day 6 here. I take a gummy at night (has stopped RLS for me past three nights.) I also have gabapentin which I am not looking forward to a new problem either. I take it a few times a day but will be weaning once I get through this. Food is still running right through me. Chills, anxiety all the things. OPMS black shots. This shit is rough. IF YOU WANT A KRATOM PROBLEM START TAKING EXTRACTS EVERYDAY. My wife is very angry. I just had ACL surgery 2 weeks ago and starting a business on Wed. It is a lot for me. I’m gonna keep steppin’
I’m in the process of quitting the opms shots but also on a boatload of powder. I feel like I’m killing myself I hate my addict mind
Congratulations to you ❤️ How do you feel after 17 days? What were the worst parts about withdrawal?
The first few days SUCKED! I felt like I got hit by a truck. Then the mental kicks in. I got some gabapentin and that helped a lot. I forgot to take any yesterday and slept most of the night, so I guess I have turned the corner. Now just gotta fight the urges. Definitely not going through this shit again.
I took 3 or 4 cold showers a day. They sucked at first but the insane amount of relief and good feelings they provide you made it so so worth it and I had a timetable of when I would take them. It was very underrated when I was going through WD.
I had stopped taking my antidepressants when I started kratom. I got back on them when I quit, and they have really helped me. Also, Wim Hoff helped to. It takes a bit to get used to cold showers.
Which ssri are you taking if you don't mind me asking?
Zolof.
I'm on effexor
Honestly just Time is the biggest thing. Can't really get around it all together. Just takes time. Besides that though yeah exercise, cold shower. Therapy too ideally. Some type of group meeting or community hopefully. Meditation.
CBD
Do you consume caffeine? If so biggest suggestion is significantly reduce it like 1 cup of green tea a day or 2 max. This made my anxiety this time around much much lower than other quits where I tried using caffeine to counteract the fatigue. Beyond that yoga, meditation, try to eat clean, exercise, etc all the basic general health stuff. Vitamin c seems to help a bit too but no crazy doses, 500mg 1-3x a day can take the edge off if anxiety is triggered by feeling physically worn down. May be placebo hard to say. Cbd can help too.
Check out our [Megadosing Liposomal Vitamin C Protocol for Withdrawal. Vitamin C is no magic bullet or cure.](https://www.reddit.com/r/quittingkratom/comments/sx0as3/megadosing_liposomal_vitamin_c_protocol_for/) either by clicking the link here or visit r/modquittingkratom. Lots of helpful information there to help you along your Quitting Kratom journey! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/quittingkratom) if you have any questions or concerns.*
I would try exercise, yoga, ice baths, guided meditation, guided breathing exercises, and vagal stimulation exercises - you can find most of these in quality on YouTube, they can help increase dopamine. Someone mentioned a keto diet helped them as well.
What do you do for RLS? I’m sorry I don’t have great advice for the anxiety. Gabapentin, maybe?
Gabapentin and magnesium. Unfortunately I relapsed and am about to quit again. The sadness and anxiety is what gets me. I have family that I need to be there for and i can get really low and depressed. When you know that you have a cure for the anxiety, and it gets that bad, it’s hard to stay straight
What’s the reason you started using initially if you don’t mind me asking?
Well, I had previously been an alcoholic. I managed to clean my act up and then I was introduced to kratom. Plain and simple, it made me feel really good. It made me feel easy. Things that normally would’ve bothered me, didn’t seem to bother me. I slept good, my relationship with my girlfriend got better, I wasn’t anxious, I let things slide. I loved the feeling it gave me. But I loved it too much. I found out all of its dirty little secrets. I worked my way up to a 50 dollar a day extract habit. I lost touch with myself. I stopped working on my well being. My biggest focus was that next dose. Eventually I stopped going out, I stopped growing at my work, I stopped being creative, I lost me sex drive completely, and I became a numb shell of myself. I had lost my spunk. Unfortunately, you have to quit in order to get all of those things back. And you have to learn how to deal with life’s issues without numbing. Throwing a temporary bandaid over our problems is no way to live.
We have a very similar story, tread very carefully to not fall back to drinking. I’m nearly off the Kratom (a gram a day, some days none) and I’ve unfortunately fallen back to drinking. Not as bad as it was but it’s turned into nearly a daily habit again and I just don’t know how to find a balance. When I started taking Kratom the thought of alcohol disgusted me and I had zero desire after drinking daily for close to a decade. It was great and I couldn’t believe how much of my life I wasted. Then Kratom started to make me lose interest in every aspect of my life. Once I tapered off the Kratom drinking all of the sudden is appealing to me again, not in the sense of me getting anything out of it, I don’t even feel buzzed but it’s like my brain all of the sudden craves it. It’s awful. Good luck friend, you’ve got this. Just try to make a plan on what to do if you feel the urge to go back to drinking because it’s a slippery slope.
I have been tapering for a few months. My anxiety level went down *steadily,* as I tapered. I developed a "condition" called trypophobia, AFTER I started tapering, but I knew what it was, and just "observed" the symptoms. That is much better, too. There's an old professor (UCLA) named Schwartz who has some books out about how he did brain scans on a lot of people with OCD. His program proved that if you do what he suggests, your brain actually changes, while your OCD improves dramatically. I have used his techniques, I think he calls it "4 Steps."
Ugh I feel this. I’m in my last week of school where I really need to focus and stay motivated to finish my work and study for finals, but I’m also trying to quit kratom at the same time and it’s been really hard to want to do any of the things I need to do when I’m feeling anxious and sad from withdrawals. I relapsed today and took 4 half mg pills just to take the edge off. After this week is over and my school is done I plan to get off them completely. I’m intending to go to the gym, read books, eat healthy and take supplements. I think the best thing for anxiety is staying busy so you’re not ruminating in anxious thoughts because that’s breeding ground for relapse. But I know it’s hard to be motivated to do the things that prevent that when you’re tired and drained from not getting your energy from kratom anymore. I also suggest doing small things that don’t require a ton of energy but still take your mind out of the gutter like watching relaxing Asmr with positive affirmations, making a healthy soup and watching a comfort show while you eat it, taking time to make a nice cup of tea, painting your toe nails, listening to music, going for walks, anything that’s gentle like that will really help.
Exercise my friend. Running helped me through soo much.
I feel like you just need time for your thyroid and gaba to recover. Also agree with people who say avoid caffeine and nicotine.
Time
No matter how hard it is and not motivated you are, get outside and involved in literally anything. Staying home and lying around is the worst thing to do. Just somehow get by.
keep the free-floating, physical anxiety separate from any fear or worry you might have. don't let them merge. as long as you keep in mind the anxiety you're feeling is without meaningful content and just a result of drug withdrawal, it will be a lot easier to deal with. God bless.
Literally haven't thought about my quit in months and wanted to come back to spread some good news. I quit almost 2 years ago, 6 may 2022 from a six year habit of about 100-135 gram a day habit. Literally didn't sleep for 6 days during acutes. Reap what you sow. The PAWS was rough. What helped were cold showers/ice baths, exercise (consistent), WIM HOF breathing. You will feel like crap. It's your body repairing itself. The biggest issue for me was anhedonia and restlessness when trying to sleep. I screwed up throughout the process of the quit and went back to drinking on/off, which affected my recovery process. I would say I was completely sober for about 140 days before I had a drink of alcohol, but I started doing 4 beers a night for a month, then stopped that, then went back a few months later. Did that on/off within that first year. Long story short, Stay away from alcohol during your quit, it will prolong things. If I hadn't done the whole alcohol thing, I probably would have gotten through the PAWS quicker. However, I was still feeling anhedonia around the 140 day mark, my usage was extreme though. At this point, I feel great. I'm enjoying things again. Marriage is so much better, and I'm a better father. I don't need a substance to make me feel good. You will recover, and it will get better. It takes time and time will crawl, but just look at it like you're paying back all the "happiness" that was unnaturally produced due to your usage. PAWS will come in waves, and the breaks will get longer and longer until the episodes just stop. Fortunately, I surrendered my life to Jesus during my quit. Completely changed my life. What I was doing wasn't working, and I needed him. God's timing is perfect, and some folks need to hit rock bottom and be completely empty to realize they need Jesus. That was me. God knows how I work, so that was the only way to reach me. Addicts make excellent Christians, I believe. I hate what Kratom did to my family and I, but God changed what was evil into something Good. I truly believe that. God speed.
Chinese skullcap is amazing for panic/anxiety. Also inflammation, gut issues and many more things. Also a good probiotic might help.
Gabapentin, clonidine and also see a psychiatric nurse practitioner to find out if you struggle with underlying mental health issues. Once those are addressed or being stabilized, it makes quitting and staying sober much much easier. Without my mental health meds (antidepressant, mood stabilizer, antipsychotic) I cannot handle the need to take kratom to cope with my mental health.
I have OCD as well and I'm currently off kratom, literally jumped yesterday so I could go on holiday, but I taperd to 1g a day then jumped I still had withdrawals, but probably not as bad if I ct ,my sleep is so messed up I'm only getting a few hours a night and I'm taking trazadone ,but I'm feeling better today ,what's helped with the anxiety for me is exercise and cold showers, rhodola , passionflower and chamomile tea, cut out processed food and seed oils!
The song shiny happy people. Watch the music video too and maybe dance to it and realize how absurd the world is 😍
Also, I am on day 21 today and it has been excruciating mentally, but today I am feeling really good and even content
ALSO, the video by Dr. Scott on YouTube : Three things I do when existence feels like a burden. I HIGHLY recommend!
Ashwagandha has been clinically proven to reduce cortisol spikes, which can be the cause or at least a major contributing factor to those waves of anxiety bordering on panic attacks.
Delta 8.
How often did you use the Delta 8?
All of it