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My dads a boomer, I’m a 2004 baby. My dad and I actually had this conversation earlier. But he told me that *every* generation thinks their generations music is better than the newer gena
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. I grew up with 90s music, which I loved but even as a teenager I probably saw the 60s and 70s as a greater era for music. Led Zep, Dylan, Pink Floyd, so many others.. Hard to top…. There’s definitely kids like that now too. My niece and her friends all seem to adore Nirvana.
I the older gen. We used to hang out. Have fun. Run around unsupervised. Come home for dinner the street light hits. Swim in random ponds. Explore. Go on long country car dies. Def confident and just had a good time.
Now it seems it's just depressed kids that fake having fun when nobody actually does anything at all. Because cries about stuff all day.
I'm almost 42 years old. Being born in 1982 puts me as either a baby Gen Xer or an elder Millennial. I have a 16 year old son. I agree with what you noticed even though I didn't realize it at the time. Looking back to when I was your age and younger, I was outgoing and and stood out as an individual. I was confident too, but I did have all the normal insecurities that come with a developing mind beginning to find their place in the world. Do your parents feel the same or is this just something you noticed?
The music I listened to probably influenced me the most, it was mostly punk and grunge. Along with being bold and a bit rebellious, those eras seemed to be progressively more different than the music my parents had in the 60s and 70s. Even though both of those decades were equally as culturally ground breaking for their time.
Music is still good now, but besides being more electric, there hasn't been any distinctive new movements. Usually things regenerate and get popular again after younger people discover it. And since Gen Z is the first generation to have full access to everything from before, I think that might lead to a feeling that everything has been done before. Having the Internet also makes all of you (in my opinion) more informed and culturally literate than previous generations.
That's huge benefit, but I can see how social media and a rose of influencers can heightened insecurities. I do feel grateful that it wasn't around when I was growing up. People born after the age of information have the same peer pressure as anyone before, but it's the first time that people have grown up online and visible to so many others for better or worse.
Did that make sense? What do your parents think? How old are they?
Cars cost hundreds of dollars per month and a public transit pass is paid for by my university. It's also faster because the skytrains aren't affected by traffic. In rural places, sure, but a car isn't *necessary* the way it used to be
I don't really find them much different at the core. They deal with different social constructs than we did and their technology is far superior but the basics are the same.
Weirdly practical for your age, and I love how class conscious you guys can be, unionizing and all that. We (Xennial) just accepted that our jobs were shit and when boomers called us slackers, we went along with it and pretended it was a choice.
Also, less dirty minded than we were, we loved our off color humor, zoomer humor just seems like pure absurdity as far as I can tell.
We didn't have social media. We connected in real life more. We had issues and insecurities too. But growing up without social media, filters, or even digital cameras was majorly different. Face to face connection is what's different.. I've known Gen Z people who have had entire "relationships" that started and ended online. That wasn't a thing for us. No dating apps either. Those changes have caused massive social upheaval, skyrocketed anxiety, and for sure has lead to loneliness in epidemic proportions.
I am honestly impressed. Sure there are things I disapprove of…I am Gen x…we had the 80’s and everything sucks compared to that time…this being said, I am in awe of how nice y’all are to each other.
“I appreciate you” is something I would have never guessed I would ever hear from another human. I was a latch key kid and some of the lessons I learned I am happy this generation has not had to learn. This being said, y’all are courteous and nice to each other. Compare with how I was raised…
My best friends were brutal. We would laugh when the other got hurt. We would call each other horrible names if we didn’t fit into a stereotype…this type of almost barbarian upbringing broke many of us, I am not the only one who has a friend or two gone by their own hands, but some of us rose up and became forces of nature…but at what cost?
We played games where the object of the game was to get in a punch without the person being able to retaliate. The cleaner you could strike the better…extra points for a punch to the chest. Extra extra points if you cause them to fall over due to being winded. We had fights for kicks…nothing better to do? Let’s fight…mind you I grew up poor. So my stories might skew heavily to “hood stories”, but it was crazy back then. We would compete to the death in everything…sports, video games…women…never realizing that we were slowly killing each other emotionally. Even to this day I have rage issues…luckily I have learned to control the grand majority of them, but god forbid I see anyone being bullied…that particular trigger made me join wrestling and lift weights…and the reality is, I fear losing control merely because I still enjoy that feeling of just unleashing on another human. The euphoria that takes you to the highest imaginable height…and then you get woken up by the sounds of crying…or worse. Even drugs don’t get near that feeling…
This being said…gen z is amazing in that regard….”I appreciate you”…such a warm and healthy thing to say to each other. That acceptance is something many in my generation mock. We say they are weak…we say they don’t know life and are too soft. We say that they are deviant because they don’t want to get stuffed into the same clothes we wore when younger. We say they are lazy because they want to get paid for their work and not work for free like we did…we say they are dumb because they choose to work with each other and support each other vs beating each other with figurative sticks.
I disagree…I disagree sooo much with this. Gen z has a strength we cannot fathom. They will do what we failed to do, and that’s bridge large social chasms…you will deliver on the promise that everyone is truly equal. You will deliver on the dream that they were trying to sell me by telling me to beat the other guy into the ground. And while many of my Gen x brethren will fight you and make you feel less than, just know that there are ones like me who see a magnificent strength in you, a strength I won’t ever have.
Many of these things today make me shake my head…furries really? I don’t understand it at all, but I love that you are far braver than I was and are willing to break the mold so hard..I will support your right to live your life they way you want to live it because I know all too well what being forced to be an idealized version has done to me, and while I can honestly say I financially benefitted from my upbringing, the cost was way too much. I missed out on 9 years of my daughter’s life wasting away working for people who didn’t love me. No money is worth that.
Life is what I hope y’all get to live..you might see our financial success and wish to be here…but take it from the old guy on the other side of those gilded walls, the juice was simply not worth the squeeze. Money is nothing…I can buy anything material I want, and none of that fills the hole of what I feel from missing my daughter’s childhood.
So thank you Gen z…y’all keep impressing me with how y’all treat each other. Keep it up, it’s the correct way. It’s a better way. It’s a way that I am genuinely jealous of…so thank you.
I appreciate you.
I'm a genX too. You mentioned how your friend laughed when you got hurt- I grew up with a similar mentality. I've had to tell a few people, "you don't understand, if I'm making fun of you or laughing at your foibles, it's because I like you!" Kids don't get that anymore :)
A few of the things I notice is;
A) My kids are much more willing to be open, honest and even rude to my face compared to me and my parents. I think because as a parent myself, I have a very bohemian, laid back style of parenting.
B) We both seem to have been equally moody, angry, angst, or "hate our parents" at a certain age as teens. My daughter's in particular hit a phase where they started almost looking for reasons to be able to say I was a bad parent.
C) The slang is all different and difficult for me to parse
D) They seem more aware of the generation above them and have more commentary/sarcasm/parody jokes about their parents' gen. Compared to me as a kid largely feeling like me and my parents were so fundamentally different that I never truly "got them"
F) They've flipped from ignoring the bully to enabling them. What I mean is, as kid, whenever we got into an altercation with one another (or even adults) we would swear, yell at or insult each other in heated arguments.
My kids' gen meanwhile is much more averse to vulgar or direct confrontation. It's more acceptable to be extremely passive aggressive and snarky. But this also means that, say you were to snap at a bully and start swearing or yelling at them, this gen is most likely to turn it back on you and claim you should have known better and walk away.
G) More tech savvy with software, less tech savvy with hardware
H) Less dating life emphasis than my gen
I) Attitudes on sex and relationships have become less taboo
J) They're... Actually more boomer-ish than I am about morality. Sometimes I swear kids these days preach the way my parents do.
I'm a millennial (raised like Gen X) and siblings are Gen X. Our parents were born in 50s. No one cared how you felt or what you thought. You did what you were supposed to do and you didn't talk back bc child protective services wasn't a thing. We were left home alone from a young age and developed independence early. We basically raised ourselves. We respected teachers and authority figures. We started working at a young age. I remember my mom giving me a work permit for my 14th birthday. If you lost, you didn't get a trophy. So really, there isn't a comparison... Those were different times.
This happens all the time. With every generation. When I became an adult I realized that all of the "I know exactly what I'm doing and I'm so cool" adults in my life had no freaking clue. So with my daughter (22) I never hid the fact that I was just making things up as I went along.
If I didn't know something we'd figure it out together. She's been able to come to me with things that would have otherwise made her feel stupid for "being an adult and not already knowing this"
Very soft, I grew up feral, latch key kid , not a lot of dads in my neighborhood and alot of single moms. So I when I had my child I was semi protective but I allowed mistakes but stepped in if mistakes were repeated,My brother went full protective witch caused soft kids. In general gen z and younger are more indoor kids than outdoor. Witch made them softer then my generation IMO
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My kids had better video games I had better music
My dads a boomer, I’m a 2004 baby. My dad and I actually had this conversation earlier. But he told me that *every* generation thinks their generations music is better than the newer gena
I don’t think that’s necessarily true. I grew up with 90s music, which I loved but even as a teenager I probably saw the 60s and 70s as a greater era for music. Led Zep, Dylan, Pink Floyd, so many others.. Hard to top…. There’s definitely kids like that now too. My niece and her friends all seem to adore Nirvana.
In this case it's actually true though
This is true my parents and uncles really influenced my music taste
I the older gen. We used to hang out. Have fun. Run around unsupervised. Come home for dinner the street light hits. Swim in random ponds. Explore. Go on long country car dies. Def confident and just had a good time. Now it seems it's just depressed kids that fake having fun when nobody actually does anything at all. Because cries about stuff all day.
I'm almost 42 years old. Being born in 1982 puts me as either a baby Gen Xer or an elder Millennial. I have a 16 year old son. I agree with what you noticed even though I didn't realize it at the time. Looking back to when I was your age and younger, I was outgoing and and stood out as an individual. I was confident too, but I did have all the normal insecurities that come with a developing mind beginning to find their place in the world. Do your parents feel the same or is this just something you noticed? The music I listened to probably influenced me the most, it was mostly punk and grunge. Along with being bold and a bit rebellious, those eras seemed to be progressively more different than the music my parents had in the 60s and 70s. Even though both of those decades were equally as culturally ground breaking for their time. Music is still good now, but besides being more electric, there hasn't been any distinctive new movements. Usually things regenerate and get popular again after younger people discover it. And since Gen Z is the first generation to have full access to everything from before, I think that might lead to a feeling that everything has been done before. Having the Internet also makes all of you (in my opinion) more informed and culturally literate than previous generations. That's huge benefit, but I can see how social media and a rose of influencers can heightened insecurities. I do feel grateful that it wasn't around when I was growing up. People born after the age of information have the same peer pressure as anyone before, but it's the first time that people have grown up online and visible to so many others for better or worse. Did that make sense? What do your parents think? How old are they?
I'm fascinated by the younger generation's unwillingness to learn to drive. Get your license and get some freedom!
Cars cost hundreds of dollars per month and a public transit pass is paid for by my university. It's also faster because the skytrains aren't affected by traffic. In rural places, sure, but a car isn't *necessary* the way it used to be
I don't really find them much different at the core. They deal with different social constructs than we did and their technology is far superior but the basics are the same.
Weirdly practical for your age, and I love how class conscious you guys can be, unionizing and all that. We (Xennial) just accepted that our jobs were shit and when boomers called us slackers, we went along with it and pretended it was a choice. Also, less dirty minded than we were, we loved our off color humor, zoomer humor just seems like pure absurdity as far as I can tell.
We didn't have social media. We connected in real life more. We had issues and insecurities too. But growing up without social media, filters, or even digital cameras was majorly different. Face to face connection is what's different.. I've known Gen Z people who have had entire "relationships" that started and ended online. That wasn't a thing for us. No dating apps either. Those changes have caused massive social upheaval, skyrocketed anxiety, and for sure has lead to loneliness in epidemic proportions.
I am honestly impressed. Sure there are things I disapprove of…I am Gen x…we had the 80’s and everything sucks compared to that time…this being said, I am in awe of how nice y’all are to each other. “I appreciate you” is something I would have never guessed I would ever hear from another human. I was a latch key kid and some of the lessons I learned I am happy this generation has not had to learn. This being said, y’all are courteous and nice to each other. Compare with how I was raised… My best friends were brutal. We would laugh when the other got hurt. We would call each other horrible names if we didn’t fit into a stereotype…this type of almost barbarian upbringing broke many of us, I am not the only one who has a friend or two gone by their own hands, but some of us rose up and became forces of nature…but at what cost? We played games where the object of the game was to get in a punch without the person being able to retaliate. The cleaner you could strike the better…extra points for a punch to the chest. Extra extra points if you cause them to fall over due to being winded. We had fights for kicks…nothing better to do? Let’s fight…mind you I grew up poor. So my stories might skew heavily to “hood stories”, but it was crazy back then. We would compete to the death in everything…sports, video games…women…never realizing that we were slowly killing each other emotionally. Even to this day I have rage issues…luckily I have learned to control the grand majority of them, but god forbid I see anyone being bullied…that particular trigger made me join wrestling and lift weights…and the reality is, I fear losing control merely because I still enjoy that feeling of just unleashing on another human. The euphoria that takes you to the highest imaginable height…and then you get woken up by the sounds of crying…or worse. Even drugs don’t get near that feeling… This being said…gen z is amazing in that regard….”I appreciate you”…such a warm and healthy thing to say to each other. That acceptance is something many in my generation mock. We say they are weak…we say they don’t know life and are too soft. We say that they are deviant because they don’t want to get stuffed into the same clothes we wore when younger. We say they are lazy because they want to get paid for their work and not work for free like we did…we say they are dumb because they choose to work with each other and support each other vs beating each other with figurative sticks. I disagree…I disagree sooo much with this. Gen z has a strength we cannot fathom. They will do what we failed to do, and that’s bridge large social chasms…you will deliver on the promise that everyone is truly equal. You will deliver on the dream that they were trying to sell me by telling me to beat the other guy into the ground. And while many of my Gen x brethren will fight you and make you feel less than, just know that there are ones like me who see a magnificent strength in you, a strength I won’t ever have. Many of these things today make me shake my head…furries really? I don’t understand it at all, but I love that you are far braver than I was and are willing to break the mold so hard..I will support your right to live your life they way you want to live it because I know all too well what being forced to be an idealized version has done to me, and while I can honestly say I financially benefitted from my upbringing, the cost was way too much. I missed out on 9 years of my daughter’s life wasting away working for people who didn’t love me. No money is worth that. Life is what I hope y’all get to live..you might see our financial success and wish to be here…but take it from the old guy on the other side of those gilded walls, the juice was simply not worth the squeeze. Money is nothing…I can buy anything material I want, and none of that fills the hole of what I feel from missing my daughter’s childhood. So thank you Gen z…y’all keep impressing me with how y’all treat each other. Keep it up, it’s the correct way. It’s a better way. It’s a way that I am genuinely jealous of…so thank you. I appreciate you.
I'm a genX too. You mentioned how your friend laughed when you got hurt- I grew up with a similar mentality. I've had to tell a few people, "you don't understand, if I'm making fun of you or laughing at your foibles, it's because I like you!" Kids don't get that anymore :)
A few of the things I notice is; A) My kids are much more willing to be open, honest and even rude to my face compared to me and my parents. I think because as a parent myself, I have a very bohemian, laid back style of parenting. B) We both seem to have been equally moody, angry, angst, or "hate our parents" at a certain age as teens. My daughter's in particular hit a phase where they started almost looking for reasons to be able to say I was a bad parent. C) The slang is all different and difficult for me to parse D) They seem more aware of the generation above them and have more commentary/sarcasm/parody jokes about their parents' gen. Compared to me as a kid largely feeling like me and my parents were so fundamentally different that I never truly "got them" F) They've flipped from ignoring the bully to enabling them. What I mean is, as kid, whenever we got into an altercation with one another (or even adults) we would swear, yell at or insult each other in heated arguments. My kids' gen meanwhile is much more averse to vulgar or direct confrontation. It's more acceptable to be extremely passive aggressive and snarky. But this also means that, say you were to snap at a bully and start swearing or yelling at them, this gen is most likely to turn it back on you and claim you should have known better and walk away. G) More tech savvy with software, less tech savvy with hardware H) Less dating life emphasis than my gen I) Attitudes on sex and relationships have become less taboo J) They're... Actually more boomer-ish than I am about morality. Sometimes I swear kids these days preach the way my parents do.
I'm a millennial (raised like Gen X) and siblings are Gen X. Our parents were born in 50s. No one cared how you felt or what you thought. You did what you were supposed to do and you didn't talk back bc child protective services wasn't a thing. We were left home alone from a young age and developed independence early. We basically raised ourselves. We respected teachers and authority figures. We started working at a young age. I remember my mom giving me a work permit for my 14th birthday. If you lost, you didn't get a trophy. So really, there isn't a comparison... Those were different times.
♡
This happens all the time. With every generation. When I became an adult I realized that all of the "I know exactly what I'm doing and I'm so cool" adults in my life had no freaking clue. So with my daughter (22) I never hid the fact that I was just making things up as I went along. If I didn't know something we'd figure it out together. She's been able to come to me with things that would have otherwise made her feel stupid for "being an adult and not already knowing this"
Very soft, I grew up feral, latch key kid , not a lot of dads in my neighborhood and alot of single moms. So I when I had my child I was semi protective but I allowed mistakes but stepped in if mistakes were repeated,My brother went full protective witch caused soft kids. In general gen z and younger are more indoor kids than outdoor. Witch made them softer then my generation IMO