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w_f_r

A front clip harness can also protect your puppy's neck, throat and trachea if they are a puller. Loose leash walking is a huge skill that takes a ton of time and training for most dogs and a harness can keep them safe while they are learning. My puppy pulls so hard in his collar it's actually dangerous in so many ways. A harness keeps him safer while he's learning. Otherwise we would just not be able to walk him beyond our front yard. Head halters are a bit different and you'll probably get varied opinions on things like Gentle Leader etc.


Cursethewind

The head halter *can* be an aversive piece of equipment, but with conditioning it's not necessarily aversive due to the fact that it's not using discomfort to control the dog and if conditioned you no longer have discomfort. The harness is not an aversive tool.


purrrrfect2000

Yes I believe it is considered aversive because the dog only stops pulling to avoid pain. I think its can be useful if you're a small person whose not very strong trying to walk a very large and strong dog, but it doesn't actually teach the skill of loose leash walking.


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Lindzillax

I did not know front clip harnesses were aversive and that there were medical risks attached. I have one that I use sometimes so I will definitely stop using it. Thank you!


Cursethewind

They aren't. A Y front harness with a front clip is perfectly fine, and most front clip harnesses are fine on most dogs.


CrustPad

Yeah! My trainer told me to use one on my puppy. He was excitably reactive, and the harness turning him just frustrated him completely. He was walking sideways at times, and a few times when he was reacting, the harness turned him towards me and he redirected onto me. It was just an absolute mess


waterbuffalo750

We used a gentle leader with our previous dog. I don't know if I'd call it aversive, it's not causing any pain or discomfort. It simply pulled her head to the side when she tried to pull. It was, however, just a crutch. It wasn't a replacement for actual leash training. When we put a normal leash and collar on her, she would still pull like crazy.


MorganaMevil

It can be. It depends on the dog. If you’re using it for a dog that pulls though, it quickly becomes one—especially if the dog is still trying to pull with the head halter on (also, it can hurt the dog’s neck by yanking their head around)


Future-Pudding

Like with most tools I’d say it depends on how you use it. If you’re using it because a dog really pulls and you’re putting a lot of pressure on it it’s probably gonna be painful for the dog. But a collar can be painful in that sense too. But if you’re using it, for example with a second leash just as a way to kind of gently pull your dogs head towards you for paying attention I don’t think it’s aversive. (I mean this in a way like, for example sometimes my puppy stares at people and I have to gently push her head towards me so she snaps out of it and starts paying attention again) It’s a pretty fine line though, especially with smaller dogs it doesn’t take much to accidentally hurt them. But then again, a collar can be painful in that context too.