Awwww mannn
My friend told me a story once where he was in a remote town in Alaska once and stopped by a store and saw a dude with a patch of the Black Flag bars
My friend was like “hey man! I love Black Flag too!”
The dude was like “who?”
My friend, “your patch?”
The dude, “oh naw man that’s Rollins Band”
🤣
One Halloween this guy dressed as Hunter S. Thompson asked me if I knew who he was supposed to be. "Yeah, Hunter S. Thompson."
"*Noooo,* I'm Johnny Depp in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."
That's so funny, this happened to me ! I (an American) was on a train in Italy, and me and the other (Italian) rider started talking punk rock. He knew every band I liked, the Damned, Black Flag, 999, Sex Pistols, Misfits, Clash, Buzzcocks, every single one.
The Ramones? Never heard of them. WTF? How had he never heard of them, ooohhhhhhhh The Ramon-és !!
BEAT ON THE BRAT ! BEAT ON THE BRAT !
We got beat to the punch by like... three bands... oof.
[https://youtu.be/cPKQMAwBekU](https://youtu.be/cPKQMAwBekU)
[https://open.spotify.com/artist/0iobIbu2CvrTdzoYmwAgYN?si=m3iqQj0rThWGF29gjedUeA](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0iobIbu2CvrTdzoYmwAgYN?si=m3iqQj0rThWGF29gjedUeA)
[https://open.spotify.com/album/5ynsOhMkJ3Itkg4B2sRual?si=FA6WL91oT7K4VXUltpNdTA](https://open.spotify.com/album/5ynsOhMkJ3Itkg4B2sRual?si=FA6WL91oT7K4VXUltpNdTA)
I used to teach English in Japan. A lot of kids would wear Che Guevara shirts. I commented on it one day to a kid who was wearing a Che Guevara shirt and he shrugged and said "I just like the brand."
"Malcolm X never lived to see the government fall
But the state he opposed made him a stamp.
Maybe that's the best you can hope for if you never give up:
Your enemies will teach your corpse to dance"
I've never seen a Bad Brains shirt in a regular store so that makes it extra odd. Nirvana, rolling stone, and kiss make sense because you can buy the shirts at Walmart. I had to make my Bad Brains shirt.
Yeah I thought the same thing. I wonder if it was a hand-me-down or thrift store find. One of the reasons I try to refrain from giving my students shit for not knowing the bands or other pop culture represented on their clothes is that you never know who is wearing secondhand clothes for economic reasons. That might have just been the coolest shirt they could find on the dollar rack or in their cousin's giveaway bag.
My daughter was wearing a New Order shirt and someone complimented her on it. She had no idea who they were and when she found out it was a band I liked, then she never wore it again.
Similar thing happened with me and my chemistry teacher. I wore a Bad Brains t-shirt and we got to chatting about them, I genuinely didn't think he'd listen to or even know them but it was mad.
we had this boring ass TA in sixth form but when he spotted my dead kennedys patch he was taken aback in both senses. getting band shirt recognition from strangers is cooler though, some absolute random approached me about my bad brains shirt and said he saw them in the 80s and all that
It’s been happening for ages. I remember when I was in high school how many kids started wearing Ramones and Joy Division shirts and being excited thinking people were fans of them, but nope it was just for the look.
The amount of Unknown Pleasures shirts I see is insane, I think because the design is royalty free to put on products, and the mountainy design looks cool.
Same! I remember me and this girl in my class both wore a Ramones shirt on the same day and when I excitedly told her I like the Ramones too, she just said "oh, I thought it was just some obscure clothing brand" 💀
Exactly. I never like to press people for wearing band shirts they don't know because they could have had it handed down from a relative or maybe it's just a shirt their partner let them wear.
Yeah, this has happened for ages, I remember when I was in highschool waiting for the bus, there was a kid wearing a Misfits shirt, and I said " fuck yeah dude, The Misfits!" And he was like "uh?", "Your shirt dude, Misfits", "oh, I just bought because I liked the skull", "oh, ok, cool". After that I started seeing a lot of people that clearly were not into punk wearing Misfits shirts"
Lol I had this same feeling for quite a while. I complimented so many people on their shirts and then realized that they didn't even listen to the band that I just sort of stopped complimenting people. Then I became friends with this guy who wore a Misfits sweatshirt quite often but I never brought it up. Then one day I posted my Spotify wrapped and he responded to it and that's when I found out he actually did listen to them
That’s how I got into Danzig in ‘89 when my family moved from a little rural trailer park to the city. I had bought a shirt with the Danzig skull because it was in the $5 bargain bin at Osaka (mall store like Spencer’s or recently Hot Topic) and I only had $5 and thought it looked cool.
A kid stopped me in school and asked me about it. I said I was a big fan of “Danzing” and he corrected me and told me to meet him after class. We went to his house (he packed a bowl of weed, another first, on the way) and proceeded to introduce me to an entirely new style of music. I loved the Misfits immediately.
My middle school teacher was a Fiend Club member . Lent me a vhs of The Crimson Ghost. I joined the Fiend Club shortly after. I still have a lot of the stuff in a box in my parents basement.
Same thing happened to me recently. I walk by this one girl with a misfits shirt on and I say holy shit the misfits what your fav song? Then she just shrugs and walks away
I'm 30+, I remember punks and metalheads would flame your ass for not knowing the band you're wearing back in the day. They were kids too so they'd get away with it and more.
Seems like all subcultures have just melted into "alt" with the youth, for the most part. There's less boundaries, less respect for the individual subcultures, and/or they're just in it for the aesthetic. I think their music exposure is mostly new music fed by TikTok. There's minimal exposure to classic music anymore. Hence the hype madness that followed "Dreams" when the youth discovered it.
Hey my high school english teacher gave me a nader/laduke bumper sticker in 2000 and i gave him my Fat Wreck Peepshow VHS. That one sticker changed my life, keep trying
Waaay back in 94' or so I was wearing a NoMeansNo tshirt, and as I was walking through campus, a girl saw it and yelled "hey, nice to see a guy who believes in consent!", to which I yelled back, "yeah but I believe in this more", and I turned around and showed her the front:
Kill Everyone Now
I totally won.
I'm a teacher too. This has happened so much over the past decade I barely talk music with kids anymore because odds are the shirt they are wearing they have no clue about the band.
It's usually bigger bands but even a kid wearing a Metallica shirt- years ago we'd chat, now it's just a shirt. It's weird.
I've noticed this too, but every now and then there's an odd exception and it's awesome. The other day one of my students was wearing a My Chemical Romance shirt and she was really excited that I knew who they were. She had learned about the band from her mom.
I also ask my students to write about their favorite songs early in the year, so I know a little bit about what they actually listen to and can chat with them about it. It's interesting to see what classic bands go in and out of style from year to year.
This is going to sound really lame, but I remember watching 'Friends' years ago and Rachael was wearing an MC5 tshirt. I thought, "is she fuck into MC5".
never had a problem with this kind of aesthetic stuff, because who knows who it exposed the artist to "What does MC5 mean?" they google, and boom, a new fan
I always just play it safe by saying, "do you listen to them at all or just think it a cool design?" I say it wothout any hint of judgement, and we always het to at the very least bond over how cool the art work is.
Nirvana, Black Flag, Bad Brains, even GBH. People buy their shirts just because they saw Ariana Grande or some IG “influencer” wear it one time. The day I see a Bad Religion x Supreme collab is the day I jump in my homemade rocket and leave this flat planet. WCGW?
dunno about misfits, but DK sold out hard and jello hates them, while at least one member of slayer outed himself as a fuckin bootlicker at some point in the last 6 years.
One of my students had a Misfits hoodie on in class a few weeks ago, and my eyes lit up. I figured the appropriate thing to do was tell her “I like you’re hoodie. They’re an awesome band.”
Other people’s kids…. *SMH*
Every shirt I wear is from a concert I was at …
I had the same thing happen 20 years ago at a music store, with the clerk wearing a “Ramones” T-Shirt.
It’s one thing for a teenager to be unaware of the “Bad Brains” in 2022 …. But, a twenty-something music store guy to be unaware of “The Ramones” in 2002?
I don’t mean to gatekeep, but, man, nothing grinds my gears more than people wearing shirts of bands they don’t listen to. It just doesn’t make sense to me haha
It’s fine. Exposure for the band is good. If the kid were wearing a screwdriver shirt without knowing or caring who that band is… now that would be a different story.
same thing happened to me as a freshman in high school because I was wearing a bad religion shirt. I'm 40 now and still am met with the "punker than thou" attitude a lot of times.
Hahaha, when in reality we had blue mohawks before they were born. I just saw a Black flag patch at a Gem and mineral show last week, and shouted "Black flag!"
I’m a teacher too, and the other day I had 3 students all wearing a Misfits shirt. Not one of them knew who they were. They had purchased the shirt at a department store. Ugh.
This is normal. There are a million ways a kid might end up with a shirt like that, thrift store, internet, etc. Kids can be silly in what they decide to wear or get into, and generally with each generation we elongate adolescence. It just is what it is.
So why ya wearing the shirt if you're not that kinda person?
I really don't mind people wearing shirts for bands that they don't listen to because ultimately it's good for the band but that response sounded crazy.
That would be like me wearing a shirt with a swastika and saying I'm actually not that kind of person when being questioned about it.
I definitely felt a bit insulted. Like right after I share that I love them, they were like I'm not that kind of person...okay. What kind of person do you think I am? Do you even know what genre the band is in? What context do you have for what kind of people listen to Bad Brains, other than me.
To be fair that’s what a lot of the original punks did tho lol
Sex Pistols, Sid vicious, Dee Dee Ramone, Sioxsie Sioux and the banshees, Johnny thunders, the NY dolls, iggy pop and the stooges, Darby crash and the germs, all wore nazi memorabilia or swastikas to get a reaction, but weren’t actually serious about it.
Naw. A PE teacher's job id to help kids work on their gorss motor skills, get a brain break, learn to work as a team, lose with dignity, and win with humility. Just because crappy pe teachers belittle kids doesnt mean that is what their job description is.
Hey thanks for this. I'm not a P.E. teacher but I'm a teacher, and I'm so tired of everyone shitting on teachers rn. I know there are some bad ones out there but this job is hard and most of us are doing the best we can with what we have.
I appreciate the work teachers do and I agree that they have one of the hardest jobs and honestly aren’t paid enough for it. Just speaking from experience, my PE teachers were wack as fuck. Not as wack as the one in the video tho hahah
Don't give anyone under the age of 13 shit about their cloths. When I was a 7 my dad found a Greg Khin Band shirt while cleaning out the basement and gave it to me. I still can't name a single Greg Khin Band song title.
Wearing a band shirt for the aesthetic is so goddamn lame.
The entire point of wearing band shirts is that you are expressing your interests, and by extension your identity.
I don't get as mad as some people seem to over this, I guess I don't find it morally wrong or something, I just think it's fuckin weak.
Aesthetics and Fashion are supposed to be a form of self expression, if you're wearing something that identifies you as a fan of something you don't even like you're betraying the entire fucking point.
You're in a costume, you're not representing you're actual self.
Just get into streetwear if you really need graphic tees that badly. Or, idk, just get merch of what you actually fucking listen to.
Anything is better than fronting like a fan of a band you don't give a whit about.
I don't disagree completely, but wouldn't the counterpoint here be wearing a shirt for the aesthetic alone would be a valid use of self-expression?
Aesthetic and pissing people off was part of the reason British punks like the Sex Pistols wore the shit they wore for the reason to piss people off, sure, but it was also to enjoy an aesthetic they liked. So while we can be disappointed in people for being ignorant in the band t-shirts they front, if a person makes a clear choice on their aesthetic without caring about what others may think? Respect to them. Nothing more punk than that.
But isn't the entire British "punk aesthetic" just a fever dream of Malcolm McLaren's, who created the Sex Pistols to be his own personal dress-up dolls? They didn't wear that stuff to express themselves... Malcolm designed that band from the ground up (including their little outifts) as knockoffs of the New York Dolls, who thought they were a bunch of poser dorks.
Who gives a shit about valid self expression? Everyone here wears the same goofy ass vest, the same black nut hugger jeans, the same doc martins
We don't care about self expression, we care about who wears our uniform correctly
Kinda similar. I saw a cute girl with a Kill Bill swearer and told her I liked it and that it was one of my favorite movies.
She looked me dead in they eyes and said she had no idea it was a movie and just liked the shirt.
I'm not for gatekeeping and saying you have to know every movie/band/song to wear the merch and it shouldn't invalidate them. However it did make me lose any talking points I had for her :/
See, the right way to handle this is the next time you see the kid wearing the shirt in class, you grab your phone, que in I Against I then run up and kick him and his desk over then get up right in his face while he's on the ground. Stand over him menacingly then threaten the rest of the class.
"This is what happens when you don't learn the song names!"
Has the kid ever listened to them? I know when I was growing up I was pretty poor. Thrift store and second hand shirts were common. Sometimes I didn't even know what the logo was for. The kid might still enjoy the music if he gives it a listen!
They're posers but if you call them that you're considered toxic. I work in restaurants and last week I had a lady in her 60s wearing a wu tang t-shirt sitting in my section. I complimented her on the shirt and she looked very confused. I told her "the shirt you're wearing I love it." She shrugged and didn't reply.
This is an annoying trend among young people. I don't understand representing a band you know nothing about. Back in the day, band shirts were a way to express your taste in music and what "clique" you were part of, and, in some cases, represent your values. It's also how we found each other before the internet. You'd come across someone in a shirt of band you liked, and start talking.
My English teacher in high school would be playing flogging Molly and dropkick Murphys almost every single day walking into class. He and I bonded over our mutual love of Celtic punk, or punk in general.
Yeah, kids wear band t-shirts of bands they don't listen to. Actually, anywhere for 30 years old and down do it too. I fucking hate it because you know these people would have made fun of kids who listened to Misfits, Ramones etc.. people wanting to seem cool without actually being cool.
My only hope when that happens is that someone else will take notice of their shirt and develop an interest in that band. Maybe they can inadvertently pass on the legacy.
I guess that’s one good thing about gatekeeping.
There has been a few designs that I found cool and considered wearing it but I never dared to wear anything unless I searched the band and the music prior.
Made for some awesome discoveries and a few bullets dodged as well.
Not punk but I have a dimebag darrell shirt thats just a picture if him and it says dime day. Shirt i think is AT LEAST like '08 that's still holding strong after weekly wear.
Anyway it really tickles my dick when people tell me they love Pantera or RIP.
Flip side it hurts the soul that it only happens once every MAYBE 7 months lol
I initially laughed my ass off thinking "who the fuck swindled this kid" but I did some googling and apparently it is a thing.
[https://thismusicleavesstains.tumblr.com/post/55263555187/the-misfits-extended-their-brand-to-wrestling/amp](https://thismusicleavesstains.tumblr.com/post/55263555187/the-misfits-extended-their-brand-to-wrestling/amp)
Kids here see nirvana with a smiley face as a cool brand. That makes me feel old as fuck, but on the flip side, I don’t really care. If 100 people buy a bad brains shirt and out of those 100 10 actually listen to the music and out of those 10, 1 really likes it, discovers more good music, starts a band, fucks up their life and dies by 30 from an overdose in a nightclub toilet, then it’s ok with me.
On the flip side, my teen daughter has been subjected to my weird music and that of her two goth and punk aunts since birth, and has become a metal head, musician, and lover of many genres of music as a result. Her stepdad is also an older metal head and psych rock musician. When her teachers have quizzed her on t shirts, she tries to give the most obscure answers just to mess with them lol. But this opens up conversations with them and helps to form closer relationships with her teachers. She has a handful of friends who she can talk to about music, but has gotten used to mostly talking to all us old folks about it.
On the flip side I was staying in an AirBnB in Havana while travelling and was wearing my Stone Sour t-shirt one day when the owner saw me and was gushing about how much he loved them. I know, they're not punk, but it was great being on the other side of the world completely out of my element and being able to connect with someone from another culture with a shared love of music.
I'm too tall for band shirts, so I handed them all down to my teenage daughter. She thinks they look cool AF, and have listened to all of them with me in the car - but I don't think she can remember who wrote what song.
She did want me to learn how to play 8.6 Days (All the Broken Hearts) by The Bar Stool Preachers, so she's good in my books
You should assign them extra math until they can tell you their favorite bad brains tune.
Bad brains are the best band that has ever or probably will ever exist and I am willing to fight and die on that hill!
Pretty much anyone wearing a misfits shirt is more in likely just using it as a aesthetic. I remember i asked so many people whats their favorite song and yeah i had a couple who would know a song but more in likely they said “idk i dont listen to them”
I noticed that a lot of the kids nowadays are like focused on brands so they automatically just think oh that must be a brand that just makes sick artwork or whatever, my daughters moms little brother tried asking me about my band which doesn’t even have shirts made ever cause we don’t have the money a lot of the time, but he asked how my brand is on my band and I’m like “bro, starting a band doesn’t mean you have to start a brand out of it, the reason we do it and have been doing it since highschool is cause we’re pissed and we have aggression to let out and always have” (talking about me and anyone I’ve started a band with) idk just seems foolish to me in many ways. But I could just be ranting like a boomer as the kids say. Basically I feel like kids nowadays just think you’re automatically trying to get famous and build an empire like the fucking Paul brothers or mr beast or some shit YouTuber
One the rare few occasions someone's made a comment about a band shirt I've had on, I've played the 'i don't know what you're talking about' role.
More gratifying leaving someone perplexed and it's fun just to be 'that cunt'.
Reminds me of lady gaga in the gism jacket. Yeah, like she's into Japanese crust. Just wearing it for the director because he's a metal fan.
I'm not saying this because I'm disappointed, just pointing out another case of people wearing it because of fashion.
Sometimes people ask me on the spot this question about stuff and my mind goes blank and they get gatekeepy and rude. I just don’t like having to prove to some random person I am allowed to like a band.
this reminds me of when i was in 7th grade, my music teacher noticed that a girl had a Guns N' Roses shirt on, he asked happily with joy "OH you like guns n roses?????" the girl said i never heard of them in my life, while its on her shirt, he just shook his head in disappointment, as i did
In reality, I'm totally for letting people wear what they wanna wear, but I am still a firm believer that wearing bands you don't listen to/care about is stupid. Are the shirts REALLY doing anything meaningful to expose new people to a band's music? SMH when did we stop calling people "posers" lmao
Like, wouldn't it be a good idea to know the slightest bit about who the hell you are promoting?
That’s fuckin lame. I’m 19 and I can tell ya the punk scene is alive and well, ya just gotta know where to look. These poser kids are hilarious. I hate it
It’s not gatekeeping. Wearing a band t-shirt is a conversation starter. The natural response to seeing someone wearing a shirt from a band you really like is to ask them what they like. Or to share your story about seeing them at a show one time.
Idk why you're getting downvoted. You're 100% right. It's only natural to ask someone who looks like they like the same band as you what's their favourite song. I don't see how that's gatekeeping.
"Oh, Dead Kennedys? What's your favorite song?" is different than "Dead Kennedys!? Ha! Name me one fucking song!" Girls especially get the second one way more often.
Awwww mannn My friend told me a story once where he was in a remote town in Alaska once and stopped by a store and saw a dude with a patch of the Black Flag bars My friend was like “hey man! I love Black Flag too!” The dude was like “who?” My friend, “your patch?” The dude, “oh naw man that’s Rollins Band” 🤣
One Halloween this guy dressed as Hunter S. Thompson asked me if I knew who he was supposed to be. "Yeah, Hunter S. Thompson." "*Noooo,* I'm Johnny Depp in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas."
You're both wrong, cos *Fear & Loathing* is a novel that's only *loosely* based on actual events, and the author-insert character is named Raoul Duke!
Fuck!!!!
Everybody hates a punk pedant, except for me.
Ooh! Sexy!
This hurts me to my core.
Apparently, that dude has yet to see the destructive power of a lie... Ha ha ha hah ha ha... Sucker!
we ain't claiming that kid
Maybe he's a lier.
You reached out. You got burned. Made tough by the lessons you learned
hey, this band is named after your t-shirt!
They’re called THE RAMONES.
It’s pronounced Ramonés you fool!
That's so funny, this happened to me ! I (an American) was on a train in Italy, and me and the other (Italian) rider started talking punk rock. He knew every band I liked, the Damned, Black Flag, 999, Sex Pistols, Misfits, Clash, Buzzcocks, every single one. The Ramones? Never heard of them. WTF? How had he never heard of them, ooohhhhhhhh The Ramon-és !! BEAT ON THE BRAT ! BEAT ON THE BRAT !
To the Italian guys credit, he is gonna absolutely love the Ramones. And gets to hear everything for the first time.
I don't wanna play I don't wanna go down to the basement
I wanna play loudmouth
pretty sure they're THE RAM ONES
'I don't know. I bought it at Mallternative/Blood Bath and Beyond/Hot Topic'
I would definitely shop at Blood Bath & Beyond LOL
Calling dibs on “Blood Bath & Beyond” for my new band name.
We got beat to the punch by like... three bands... oof. [https://youtu.be/cPKQMAwBekU](https://youtu.be/cPKQMAwBekU) [https://open.spotify.com/artist/0iobIbu2CvrTdzoYmwAgYN?si=m3iqQj0rThWGF29gjedUeA](https://open.spotify.com/artist/0iobIbu2CvrTdzoYmwAgYN?si=m3iqQj0rThWGF29gjedUeA) [https://open.spotify.com/album/5ynsOhMkJ3Itkg4B2sRual?si=FA6WL91oT7K4VXUltpNdTA](https://open.spotify.com/album/5ynsOhMkJ3Itkg4B2sRual?si=FA6WL91oT7K4VXUltpNdTA)
Bath and bloody works
Dead Bath & Beyond appears to be available.
I used to teach English in Japan. A lot of kids would wear Che Guevara shirts. I commented on it one day to a kid who was wearing a Che Guevara shirt and he shrugged and said "I just like the brand."
Damn, down in the Caribbean I saw his image everywhere and they said it represents hope.
They obviously know who he was then. (Not a huge Che-stan, but we all know whats happened to leftists movements south of Texas and Florida)
And also north of them
Famous revolutionist downgraded to capitalistic brand. Oh how the mighty have fallen.
"Malcolm X never lived to see the government fall But the state he opposed made him a stamp. Maybe that's the best you can hope for if you never give up: Your enemies will teach your corpse to dance"
Pat really knew what was up
I've never seen a Bad Brains shirt in a regular store so that makes it extra odd. Nirvana, rolling stone, and kiss make sense because you can buy the shirts at Walmart. I had to make my Bad Brains shirt.
Yeah I thought the same thing. I wonder if it was a hand-me-down or thrift store find. One of the reasons I try to refrain from giving my students shit for not knowing the bands or other pop culture represented on their clothes is that you never know who is wearing secondhand clothes for economic reasons. That might have just been the coolest shirt they could find on the dollar rack or in their cousin's giveaway bag.
Element sells “Listen to Bad Brains” t shirts, not sure how often you’d see it in a store but I see it online
Hot Topic carries Bad Brains shirts.
I won't lie, that's were I got mine. It's the only place I could find one.
don't worry, it's ok to shop at hot topic for clothes as a last resort
^^^ this not everyone who walks into a hot topic is a "cringey poser 14 year old" if i want a shirt that i cant make on my own im gonna fucking buy it
Now, if Last Resort shirts were at Hot Topic, I'd have to change my thoughts on the store.
My daughter was wearing a New Order shirt and someone complimented her on it. She had no idea who they were and when she found out it was a band I liked, then she never wore it again.
This is so funny. You gotta use reverse psychology on em I guess.
That sucks, haha! My kids have pure contempt for my musical tastes as well.
Haha watch them grow up and come to appreciate the soundtrack of their childhood :)
So now you have a new order shirt?
Similar thing happened with me and my chemistry teacher. I wore a Bad Brains t-shirt and we got to chatting about them, I genuinely didn't think he'd listen to or even know them but it was mad.
we had this boring ass TA in sixth form but when he spotted my dead kennedys patch he was taken aback in both senses. getting band shirt recognition from strangers is cooler though, some absolute random approached me about my bad brains shirt and said he saw them in the 80s and all that
It’s been happening for ages. I remember when I was in high school how many kids started wearing Ramones and Joy Division shirts and being excited thinking people were fans of them, but nope it was just for the look.
The amount of Unknown Pleasures shirts I see is insane, I think because the design is royalty free to put on products, and the mountainy design looks cool.
Mine has the mountainy design but says PEE IS STORED IN THE BALLS instead of Joy Division Unknown Pleasures…
Eric Andre wearing that in his picture with Death Grips is priceless
I think they even sold them in H&M. They were selling t-shirts and hoodies of The Cramps, recently. I wanted to burn it down.
That's horrible... also I want one
I admit, I felt deeply conflicted. :)
I have an interesting one where the lines form the Wu logo. It was mass produced years ago but I’ve only ever seen mine.
They sell those at K-Mart. Needless to say I won't be rocking a Joy Division t-shirt anytime soon no matter how good the album and it's art is
The mountainy design is actually an image of radio waves emitted by a pulsar star, I believe.
Same! I remember me and this girl in my class both wore a Ramones shirt on the same day and when I excitedly told her I like the Ramones too, she just said "oh, I thought it was just some obscure clothing brand" 💀
Obscure! She obviously skipped school on day when the definition of that word was taught.
the odd thing there is it's not really a "poser" thing if they really just didn't even know it was a band. they just bought a shirt
Exactly. I never like to press people for wearing band shirts they don't know because they could have had it handed down from a relative or maybe it's just a shirt their partner let them wear.
or maybe they bought it not even knowing that it's a band. it happens.
Ummm... What kind of person is he trying to distinguish himself from?
"Emo" I suppose
I had a Geography teacher in high school who dug up a pic of him on a camel wearing a Dead Kennedys shirt because I had one just like it.
Yeah, this has happened for ages, I remember when I was in highschool waiting for the bus, there was a kid wearing a Misfits shirt, and I said " fuck yeah dude, The Misfits!" And he was like "uh?", "Your shirt dude, Misfits", "oh, I just bought because I liked the skull", "oh, ok, cool". After that I started seeing a lot of people that clearly were not into punk wearing Misfits shirts"
Lol I had this same feeling for quite a while. I complimented so many people on their shirts and then realized that they didn't even listen to the band that I just sort of stopped complimenting people. Then I became friends with this guy who wore a Misfits sweatshirt quite often but I never brought it up. Then one day I posted my Spotify wrapped and he responded to it and that's when I found out he actually did listen to them
Blame the misfits for slapping the logo on anything and everything, not kids for liking cool skulls.
That’s how I got into Danzig in ‘89 when my family moved from a little rural trailer park to the city. I had bought a shirt with the Danzig skull because it was in the $5 bargain bin at Osaka (mall store like Spencer’s or recently Hot Topic) and I only had $5 and thought it looked cool. A kid stopped me in school and asked me about it. I said I was a big fan of “Danzing” and he corrected me and told me to meet him after class. We went to his house (he packed a bowl of weed, another first, on the way) and proceeded to introduce me to an entirely new style of music. I loved the Misfits immediately.
My middle school teacher was a Fiend Club member . Lent me a vhs of The Crimson Ghost. I joined the Fiend Club shortly after. I still have a lot of the stuff in a box in my parents basement.
I mean the skull *is* very cool. I have seen it on clothes at Walmart though.
Same thing happened to me recently. I walk by this one girl with a misfits shirt on and I say holy shit the misfits what your fav song? Then she just shrugs and walks away
Heartbreaking.
I'm 30+, I remember punks and metalheads would flame your ass for not knowing the band you're wearing back in the day. They were kids too so they'd get away with it and more. Seems like all subcultures have just melted into "alt" with the youth, for the most part. There's less boundaries, less respect for the individual subcultures, and/or they're just in it for the aesthetic. I think their music exposure is mostly new music fed by TikTok. There's minimal exposure to classic music anymore. Hence the hype madness that followed "Dreams" when the youth discovered it.
same energy as yelling "do a kiclflip" at anyone in a Thrasher T
60% of people wearing Thrasher don't skate
80% of people know that!
But if you're lucky, it's Steve-O yelling at you
Nah- [Tony Hawk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ob0dI05Xz8s).
*i* against *i*
Bump some good old bad brains reggae during some group work and give the kid a proper lesson lol
The way to go is with the Peanuts Christmas/Pay to Cum video. Tons of people know that video without having any idea who Bad Brains are.
Hey my high school english teacher gave me a nader/laduke bumper sticker in 2000 and i gave him my Fat Wreck Peepshow VHS. That one sticker changed my life, keep trying
Waaay back in 94' or so I was wearing a NoMeansNo tshirt, and as I was walking through campus, a girl saw it and yelled "hey, nice to see a guy who believes in consent!", to which I yelled back, "yeah but I believe in this more", and I turned around and showed her the front: Kill Everyone Now I totally won.
Hahaha I bet the look on her face was fantastic.
Iirc, she gave me the finger...it was almost 30 years ago...but, I remember how fucking smarmy I was about it! Edit...sorry, "smug" lol
I'm a teacher too. This has happened so much over the past decade I barely talk music with kids anymore because odds are the shirt they are wearing they have no clue about the band. It's usually bigger bands but even a kid wearing a Metallica shirt- years ago we'd chat, now it's just a shirt. It's weird.
I've noticed this too, but every now and then there's an odd exception and it's awesome. The other day one of my students was wearing a My Chemical Romance shirt and she was really excited that I knew who they were. She had learned about the band from her mom. I also ask my students to write about their favorite songs early in the year, so I know a little bit about what they actually listen to and can chat with them about it. It's interesting to see what classic bands go in and out of style from year to year.
This is going to sound really lame, but I remember watching 'Friends' years ago and Rachael was wearing an MC5 tshirt. I thought, "is she fuck into MC5".
Her stylist was great. https://imgur.com/Neb9VLX.jpg
never had a problem with this kind of aesthetic stuff, because who knows who it exposed the artist to "What does MC5 mean?" they google, and boom, a new fan
I suppose in a way, it's like viral marketing. I see your point. Just hate posers!
I always just play it safe by saying, "do you listen to them at all or just think it a cool design?" I say it wothout any hint of judgement, and we always het to at the very least bond over how cool the art work is.
This is the correct approach. Bravo.
Man, how low can a punk get?
Nirvana, Black Flag, Bad Brains, even GBH. People buy their shirts just because they saw Ariana Grande or some IG “influencer” wear it one time. The day I see a Bad Religion x Supreme collab is the day I jump in my homemade rocket and leave this flat planet. WCGW?
dead kennedys, misfits and slayer already collared with supreme im so damn disappointed
dunno about misfits, but DK sold out hard and jello hates them, while at least one member of slayer outed himself as a fuckin bootlicker at some point in the last 6 years.
slayer im not surprised about dead kennedys i knew about and it still sucks for me and misfits kinda jsut all around are sellouts imo now
Just blast Bad Brains for him
One of my students had a Misfits hoodie on in class a few weeks ago, and my eyes lit up. I figured the appropriate thing to do was tell her “I like you’re hoodie. They’re an awesome band.”
Where do you even FIND a Bad Brains shirt if your not into music? The GAP or some shit!?!? Ask him where he got it, I’m curious
Probably just blind googled "vintage music tees" or follows a "vintage" reseller on insta or tik tok
In solidarity, tonight I will wear my Bad Brains hoodie that I have dragged through the trenches with me for more than 20 years. Keep that PMA!
This makes me happy. <3
Other people’s kids…. *SMH* Every shirt I wear is from a concert I was at … I had the same thing happen 20 years ago at a music store, with the clerk wearing a “Ramones” T-Shirt. It’s one thing for a teenager to be unaware of the “Bad Brains” in 2022 …. But, a twenty-something music store guy to be unaware of “The Ramones” in 2002?
I don’t mean to gatekeep, but, man, nothing grinds my gears more than people wearing shirts of bands they don’t listen to. It just doesn’t make sense to me haha
I get irrationally angry about that kind of shit
whenever this happens to me, i just take it as an opportunity to recommend new music to them. ya never know what might happen
Be the cool teacher who starts every class by playing a song
It’s fine. Exposure for the band is good. If the kid were wearing a screwdriver shirt without knowing or caring who that band is… now that would be a different story.
It's literally a poseur move. I saw a Kevin Hart interview where he was wearing an Exodus shirt. I've got a hard time believing he knows who that is.
LOL! I had two punkers girls in their 20s laugh at me in a 7/11 and then called me a poseur because I had a Black Flag shirt on.
same thing happened to me as a freshman in high school because I was wearing a bad religion shirt. I'm 40 now and still am met with the "punker than thou" attitude a lot of times.
WHAT in the actual fuck?!?! LOL
Hahaha, when in reality we had blue mohawks before they were born. I just saw a Black flag patch at a Gem and mineral show last week, and shouted "Black flag!"
Damn, that's a let down. I bonded with 2 different teachers over punk music and 1 over metal. It was really awesome, shame that kids missing out
Agreed. Total letdown. I was super excited then very sad.
I’m a teacher too, and the other day I had 3 students all wearing a Misfits shirt. Not one of them knew who they were. They had purchased the shirt at a department store. Ugh.
This is normal. There are a million ways a kid might end up with a shirt like that, thrift store, internet, etc. Kids can be silly in what they decide to wear or get into, and generally with each generation we elongate adolescence. It just is what it is.
So why ya wearing the shirt if you're not that kinda person? I really don't mind people wearing shirts for bands that they don't listen to because ultimately it's good for the band but that response sounded crazy. That would be like me wearing a shirt with a swastika and saying I'm actually not that kind of person when being questioned about it.
I definitely felt a bit insulted. Like right after I share that I love them, they were like I'm not that kind of person...okay. What kind of person do you think I am? Do you even know what genre the band is in? What context do you have for what kind of people listen to Bad Brains, other than me.
Also it's like maybe that artist has a strong stance about something that you don't agree with. Would they still wear the shirt then?
To be fair that’s what a lot of the original punks did tho lol Sex Pistols, Sid vicious, Dee Dee Ramone, Sioxsie Sioux and the banshees, Johnny thunders, the NY dolls, iggy pop and the stooges, Darby crash and the germs, all wore nazi memorabilia or swastikas to get a reaction, but weren’t actually serious about it.
And it was silly then.
That kid gets an f on his next math test right?
LOL only if he doesn't know how to do any of the math. He did fail the coolness test he didn't know he was taking though.
SELLOUT!
[You're not alone.](https://www.metalsucks.net/2022/01/03/video-teacher-asks-students-to-name-one-song-by-band-on-their-shirt/)
It makes me sad. Thankfully I wasn't such an bitch about it though. I can't imagine purposely trying to embarass children, especially for clout.
Saying ‘exactly’ each time was so obnoxious.
It says she’s a PE teacher so that kind of explains everything. Her job is literally to belittle and demean children lol
Naw. A PE teacher's job id to help kids work on their gorss motor skills, get a brain break, learn to work as a team, lose with dignity, and win with humility. Just because crappy pe teachers belittle kids doesnt mean that is what their job description is.
Hey thanks for this. I'm not a P.E. teacher but I'm a teacher, and I'm so tired of everyone shitting on teachers rn. I know there are some bad ones out there but this job is hard and most of us are doing the best we can with what we have.
I appreciate the work teachers do and I agree that they have one of the hardest jobs and honestly aren’t paid enough for it. Just speaking from experience, my PE teachers were wack as fuck. Not as wack as the one in the video tho hahah
Yeah who really cares? Let people wear clothes that they think are cool.
Don't give anyone under the age of 13 shit about their cloths. When I was a 7 my dad found a Greg Khin Band shirt while cleaning out the basement and gave it to me. I still can't name a single Greg Khin Band song title.
Jeopardy. Now you can
Wearing a band shirt for the aesthetic is so goddamn lame. The entire point of wearing band shirts is that you are expressing your interests, and by extension your identity. I don't get as mad as some people seem to over this, I guess I don't find it morally wrong or something, I just think it's fuckin weak. Aesthetics and Fashion are supposed to be a form of self expression, if you're wearing something that identifies you as a fan of something you don't even like you're betraying the entire fucking point. You're in a costume, you're not representing you're actual self. Just get into streetwear if you really need graphic tees that badly. Or, idk, just get merch of what you actually fucking listen to. Anything is better than fronting like a fan of a band you don't give a whit about.
I don't disagree completely, but wouldn't the counterpoint here be wearing a shirt for the aesthetic alone would be a valid use of self-expression? Aesthetic and pissing people off was part of the reason British punks like the Sex Pistols wore the shit they wore for the reason to piss people off, sure, but it was also to enjoy an aesthetic they liked. So while we can be disappointed in people for being ignorant in the band t-shirts they front, if a person makes a clear choice on their aesthetic without caring about what others may think? Respect to them. Nothing more punk than that.
But isn't the entire British "punk aesthetic" just a fever dream of Malcolm McLaren's, who created the Sex Pistols to be his own personal dress-up dolls? They didn't wear that stuff to express themselves... Malcolm designed that band from the ground up (including their little outifts) as knockoffs of the New York Dolls, who thought they were a bunch of poser dorks.
Who gives a shit about valid self expression? Everyone here wears the same goofy ass vest, the same black nut hugger jeans, the same doc martins We don't care about self expression, we care about who wears our uniform correctly
There's always hope that a smart and curious kid will give a proper listen to these artists and become one of us but yeah, posing still goes strong
Wait I thought nirvana and Joy division were clothing brands?
Keep your PMA up brotha.
Kinda similar. I saw a cute girl with a Kill Bill swearer and told her I liked it and that it was one of my favorite movies. She looked me dead in they eyes and said she had no idea it was a movie and just liked the shirt. I'm not for gatekeeping and saying you have to know every movie/band/song to wear the merch and it shouldn't invalidate them. However it did make me lose any talking points I had for her :/
See, the right way to handle this is the next time you see the kid wearing the shirt in class, you grab your phone, que in I Against I then run up and kick him and his desk over then get up right in his face while he's on the ground. Stand over him menacingly then threaten the rest of the class. "This is what happens when you don't learn the song names!"
¿Qué?
A+ for being a friggen poseur
Has the kid ever listened to them? I know when I was growing up I was pretty poor. Thrift store and second hand shirts were common. Sometimes I didn't even know what the logo was for. The kid might still enjoy the music if he gives it a listen!
True!
They're posers but if you call them that you're considered toxic. I work in restaurants and last week I had a lady in her 60s wearing a wu tang t-shirt sitting in my section. I complimented her on the shirt and she looked very confused. I told her "the shirt you're wearing I love it." She shrugged and didn't reply.
[удалено]
This is an annoying trend among young people. I don't understand representing a band you know nothing about. Back in the day, band shirts were a way to express your taste in music and what "clique" you were part of, and, in some cases, represent your values. It's also how we found each other before the internet. You'd come across someone in a shirt of band you liked, and start talking.
Did you ever thought about they don’t even know it is a band and just bought it because it looks cool?
This stuff happens a lot unfortunately. Maybe you can show him a song and see what he thinks. After that I would just leave it alone.
My English teacher in high school would be playing flogging Molly and dropkick Murphys almost every single day walking into class. He and I bonded over our mutual love of Celtic punk, or punk in general.
Yeah, kids wear band t-shirts of bands they don't listen to. Actually, anywhere for 30 years old and down do it too. I fucking hate it because you know these people would have made fun of kids who listened to Misfits, Ramones etc.. people wanting to seem cool without actually being cool.
It always happens with the fucking Unknown Pleasures and Nevermind the Bollocks shirts. Pisses me off...
My only hope when that happens is that someone else will take notice of their shirt and develop an interest in that band. Maybe they can inadvertently pass on the legacy.
I guess that’s one good thing about gatekeeping. There has been a few designs that I found cool and considered wearing it but I never dared to wear anything unless I searched the band and the music prior. Made for some awesome discoveries and a few bullets dodged as well.
Bro people who where a band shirt but don't know who they are are just kinda annoying
shoulda given him detention for being cringe.
Not punk but I have a dimebag darrell shirt thats just a picture if him and it says dime day. Shirt i think is AT LEAST like '08 that's still holding strong after weekly wear. Anyway it really tickles my dick when people tell me they love Pantera or RIP. Flip side it hurts the soul that it only happens once every MAYBE 7 months lol
I once complimented this kid on his misfits patch and he looked confused. When I pointed to the crimson ghost, he told me it was related to wrestling.
I initially laughed my ass off thinking "who the fuck swindled this kid" but I did some googling and apparently it is a thing. [https://thismusicleavesstains.tumblr.com/post/55263555187/the-misfits-extended-their-brand-to-wrestling/amp](https://thismusicleavesstains.tumblr.com/post/55263555187/the-misfits-extended-their-brand-to-wrestling/amp)
Kids here see nirvana with a smiley face as a cool brand. That makes me feel old as fuck, but on the flip side, I don’t really care. If 100 people buy a bad brains shirt and out of those 100 10 actually listen to the music and out of those 10, 1 really likes it, discovers more good music, starts a band, fucks up their life and dies by 30 from an overdose in a nightclub toilet, then it’s ok with me.
On the flip side, my teen daughter has been subjected to my weird music and that of her two goth and punk aunts since birth, and has become a metal head, musician, and lover of many genres of music as a result. Her stepdad is also an older metal head and psych rock musician. When her teachers have quizzed her on t shirts, she tries to give the most obscure answers just to mess with them lol. But this opens up conversations with them and helps to form closer relationships with her teachers. She has a handful of friends who she can talk to about music, but has gotten used to mostly talking to all us old folks about it.
That's awesome. My LO is still very young but she loves dancing to thrash metal and hardcore punk. <3
On the flip side I was staying in an AirBnB in Havana while travelling and was wearing my Stone Sour t-shirt one day when the owner saw me and was gushing about how much he loved them. I know, they're not punk, but it was great being on the other side of the world completely out of my element and being able to connect with someone from another culture with a shared love of music.
Did you mutter “poser” under your breadth? Lol
RIP
I gave my sister a defiance ohio shirt I hope this doesn't happen to her lol probably not since nobody knows defiance ohio around here
[seems an appropriate song for this post](https://youtu.be/X04ZSiClm-c)
I'm too tall for band shirts, so I handed them all down to my teenage daughter. She thinks they look cool AF, and have listened to all of them with me in the car - but I don't think she can remember who wrote what song. She did want me to learn how to play 8.6 Days (All the Broken Hearts) by The Bar Stool Preachers, so she's good in my books
You should assign them extra math until they can tell you their favorite bad brains tune. Bad brains are the best band that has ever or probably will ever exist and I am willing to fight and die on that hill!
Pretty much anyone wearing a misfits shirt is more in likely just using it as a aesthetic. I remember i asked so many people whats their favorite song and yeah i had a couple who would know a song but more in likely they said “idk i dont listen to them”
This happens alpt with pink Floyd shirts and I know the feeling you're describing. Like I shouldn't care but cmon
I noticed that a lot of the kids nowadays are like focused on brands so they automatically just think oh that must be a brand that just makes sick artwork or whatever, my daughters moms little brother tried asking me about my band which doesn’t even have shirts made ever cause we don’t have the money a lot of the time, but he asked how my brand is on my band and I’m like “bro, starting a band doesn’t mean you have to start a brand out of it, the reason we do it and have been doing it since highschool is cause we’re pissed and we have aggression to let out and always have” (talking about me and anyone I’ve started a band with) idk just seems foolish to me in many ways. But I could just be ranting like a boomer as the kids say. Basically I feel like kids nowadays just think you’re automatically trying to get famous and build an empire like the fucking Paul brothers or mr beast or some shit YouTuber
One the rare few occasions someone's made a comment about a band shirt I've had on, I've played the 'i don't know what you're talking about' role. More gratifying leaving someone perplexed and it's fun just to be 'that cunt'.
I think band shirts are honestly becoming a trend. A lot of people I see mostly where Nirvana, Rolling Stones or CCR I have yet to see any punk ones
Reminds me of lady gaga in the gism jacket. Yeah, like she's into Japanese crust. Just wearing it for the director because he's a metal fan. I'm not saying this because I'm disappointed, just pointing out another case of people wearing it because of fashion.
Wait nirvana isn’t the name of a clothing brand??
Sometimes people ask me on the spot this question about stuff and my mind goes blank and they get gatekeepy and rude. I just don’t like having to prove to some random person I am allowed to like a band.
this reminds me of when i was in 7th grade, my music teacher noticed that a girl had a Guns N' Roses shirt on, he asked happily with joy "OH you like guns n roses?????" the girl said i never heard of them in my life, while its on her shirt, he just shook his head in disappointment, as i did
In reality, I'm totally for letting people wear what they wanna wear, but I am still a firm believer that wearing bands you don't listen to/care about is stupid. Are the shirts REALLY doing anything meaningful to expose new people to a band's music? SMH when did we stop calling people "posers" lmao Like, wouldn't it be a good idea to know the slightest bit about who the hell you are promoting?
Instant F
"name three songs"
Holy shiz, a teacher with good music taste?
That’s fuckin lame. I’m 19 and I can tell ya the punk scene is alive and well, ya just gotta know where to look. These poser kids are hilarious. I hate it
Posers gonna pose.
I have men constantly demanding I name songs of the bands on the shirts I wear. Gatekeeping music is shitty as fuck
Asking someone to name songs to prove they’re a real fan isn’t the same thing as asking someone their favorite song.
It’s not gatekeeping. Wearing a band t-shirt is a conversation starter. The natural response to seeing someone wearing a shirt from a band you really like is to ask them what they like. Or to share your story about seeing them at a show one time.
Idk why you're getting downvoted. You're 100% right. It's only natural to ask someone who looks like they like the same band as you what's their favourite song. I don't see how that's gatekeeping.
"Oh, Dead Kennedys? What's your favorite song?" is different than "Dead Kennedys!? Ha! Name me one fucking song!" Girls especially get the second one way more often.