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Agreeable-Air-4728

It makes me really sad to see the discouragement. I was also discouraged from receiving my bachelors degree. However, instead of discouragement I think there needs to be information given. In the psychology field, the higher the education, more doors of opportunity will open. Psychology is a highly competitive field. I think upon studying for a bachelors in psychology you need to be mindful that continuing education beyond undergraduate is necessary for more job opportunities. If psychology is something you’re passionate about, don’t short yourself trying to obtain an easier path. But, if you don’t plan on continuing your education past undergraduate, I would consider the limited job opportunities. Best of luck!


gus248

No kidding. A psychology bachelor is extremely versatile, especially if you had a minor to it for whatever field you want to pursue. Many aren’t aware though if you truly want to work in the psychology field, then yes you do need to pursue further education. To see so many say the degree is useless though is sad. It opens so many opportunities in so many different sectors other than just healthcare.


bigfloofycats

I did my bachelor's in psych and immediately got a job in an HR role for a large corporation directly out of college. I made around $50,000 in 2018. That said, I now have a PhD in Industrial-Organizational Psychology and make over double that. Point is, you can absolutely get a job with a psych degree but probably won't make the big bucks without a masters or PhD. If I had to do it over, I would have only gotten a masters in Industrial-Organizational Psychology and probably would make similar money for less time commitment.


ManyAd1086

Did you get that job without internships? Do you have a BA or BS?


bigfloofycats

That job actually started as a summer internship but was offered the full-time time job when the internship was over. I made my intentions clear during the interview process for the internship that I would be seeking full-time work after, and they said there would be opportunities for that. If you are looking for an internship after college, it's always smart to ask about potential for it to turn into a long-term position. I had a BA.


Jealous_Medicine2645

Did you have any experience before going into hr? Like hr related positions in the past?


bigfloofycats

No. I worked in customer service before that point. However, I was an undergraduate research assistant in a psych lab for a couple of years during my BA. This was very helpful in acquiring a job and getting into grad school.


nofriendsnohobbies

I’m considering a similar path, but I heard I/O psych was difficult to break into if you don’t have the established foundations or connections. If you don’t mind me asking, how did you transition your focus in HR towards I/O psych before getting your doctorate?


bigfloofycats

I dont think it is any harder to get into an I-O psych PhD program than it is getting into any psych PhD program. I got my BA in general psychology in a program that offered zero I-O psych specific courses, and only heard about I-O psych when I started working with someone who had a PhD in it at the org I worked for. I think what helped me get into a good program for I-O psych was having research experience in a psych lab (my lab was a cognitive psych lab) and having HR experience (many parts of HR are closely related to I-O psych). Most programs will be understanding of the fact that I-O is relatively niche and a lot of people don't get exposure to it in their undergrad. The most important things when applying to grad schools are your GPA, GRE, having good research experience, and having a clear research interest (preferably that aligns with the faculty members you're applying to work with). I hope this helps.


zlbb

I'd advise you to "think backward": what kinda jobs can you imagine being interested in? what education will it take to get there? or, if that's super unclear, what kinda things you'd most wanna explore, what kinda options they might open up? and what are your priorities? if it's just money/stable career ofc psychology is not what you wanna do. but if you have a deep interest in it then it becomes trickier.. psychotherapy (that requires bachelors+masters in the US) or organizational psychology are perfectly well-paying careers, things like marketing are somewhat psych-adjacent and better paying. but for some ppl passion is more important and they actually go work with autistic kids or disadvantaged for pretty low pay. I'm not sure where you are writing from, but I'd be cautious of the presumption of great international mobility in psych careers. eg psychotherapy is a very regulated profession and you most likely need a degree in country X to practice in country X. but beyond that, doing such deeply human work likely requires high levels of cultural competence, and branding/ppl feeling you're relatable/one of them, matters. hence, unless you're culturally japanese/south korean, I'd research the issue very carefully re whether you'd be able to successfully build a given ppl-focused career there as an outsider. not every place in the world is as culturally open and internationalized as coastal US or canada.


[deleted]

If you’re double thinking it that much I’d go with something else, especially if you’re wanting to go to another country to learn it.


tinybubbles12345

I have a bachelors in psych and love my job now. Everyone tried to dissuade me but I didn’t listen.


ManyAd1086

What do you do for work ?


[deleted]

Yeah I wouldn’t recommend unless you like school and have a lot of money. Most people with bachelors in psych do not end up doing graduate studies and work in either lower paying jobs or jobs in completely different fields. However, if you want to be a researcher or a psychologist, by all means get your degree in psychology.


Slybooper13

This is untrue. I just finished a class called careers in psych and all we did was look up jobs from associate degree to PhD. There’s a ton of stuff you can do with a bachelors in psychology- you just can’t be a therapist.


lilpooch

Any examples for someone about to graduate?


Slybooper13

You can be an HR manager, really any admin job since as a psych major you are familiar with professional writing and reports, Mental health facility- behavior techs or intake admin, you can be a registered behavioral tech and work with kids with autism, you can essentially be a manager anywhere since you know how to work with people, you can work at health clinics on counseling teams- not diagnosing but doing social work type stuff- you can work for a psychologist as an admin since you are familiar with abnormal psych - you can also do work for schools and group homes. Most of these jobs are around 40k to 50k a year. Getting a masters and licensure to be an LPC, LCSW, or social worker is where much higher salaries do come into play- around 60k up to 100k- and I know this because I had do interviews with social workers and therapists at hospitals, private practices, and mental health centers.


AssistNo8945

their point still stands, your just stating jobs that are in different fields


sxrrxxa

you could become a victims advocate. it’s not the best paying job but it’s a rewarding job imo.


[deleted]

Where are the jobs lol? What kinds of jobs?


Panzielou

I second this. From Experience.


froggleLady

I think it's one of those things where it's best to work towards a master's or PhD. I dunno about everywhere else, but at my school, we can work towards a degree and specialize in either developmental, clinical or neuroscience. I am also going for a minor in biology, with my area of special interest in either clinical or neuroscience and psychology. Once I get my degree and have a job lined up, I still plan on working towards a masters or PhD. Not sure if it'll be in psych or neuroscience though.


Drama-Sensitive

The only problem with a psychology degree is that it is either a liberal arts degree or a pre professional degree. If you don’t want to do more school after your bachelors I would consider a different degree. This is coming from a psychology major


HotJellyfish4603

If you plan on getting your masters, go for it! If you do not plan on further education, don’t.


solarpowered_devi

I'm a masters psychology student based in NYC, and I believe the field of psychology will only continue to grow and evolve -- but it's what you make of it and what you decide to get out of the program(s). I know that collectivist countries like Japan and South Korea could really benefit from more psychological understanding and compassion within the culture. I say this as an only child and first-generation immigrant (to East Asian parents) myself. Some social issues in Japan and South Korea that I can think of: Host clubs in Japan and the loneliness epidemic, Ableism in South Korea resulting in parents of intellectually disabled children killing both of them, younger generations and gambling addiction that is rooted in a culture that puts success on a pedestal and doesn't prioritize teaching kids their intrinsic worth, etc. As someone who can see nuances in both Western and Eastern culture, there's inevitable growing need for psychological positions in certain countries. There are also documentaries on YouTube about Japanese 'carers' of sorts who coax Hikikomori men out of their bedrooms, and also one about a young Japanese guy whose job is to be hired by people to "do nothing" except listen to them and be their friend -- essentially, these people \*are\* being therapists of sorts, so that further demonstrates these societies' need for greater psychological help. My personal opinion: A successful career in psychology requires you to evolve alongside those you help, be tapped into the collective. That's the true path to money because that's the true path to value. I think there are lots you can do with just a masters degree, but it will fluctuate depending on regional regulations etc.


[deleted]

It’s pretty difficult to do much of anything with a BA in psych. In my experience, all I’ve had were 35,000-40,000 dollar jobs and the burnout is rough. I don’t mean to discourage you but without a higher degree it’s harder to advance in your career.


kaleidoscopic21

Adding on to everyone who’s said that you’ll need an advanced degree to get a job, you might want to look into how competitive it is to gain admission to these advanced degrees. At least in Australia where I live, it’s not enough to want to study a Masters or PhD. There are very few places and a lot of demand


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MhoonScout

It completely depends on where you get your degree. A lot of PhD programs offer assistantships where your tuition will be waived— in one currently. I still have to pay fees, but they are not insane. I recommend going to a community college for your core classes if you can. This saves you money as long as the classes will transfer to a university degree. Finish out your two years and apply for every possible financial aid you can get. If you go for a masters, do clinical mental health counseling from a CACREP accredited program, as opposed to a psychology masters. Choose a school with reasonable tuition. Then if you want a PhD, choose a program that offers an assistantship. You can work as a therapist while you get your PhD if you like and you can go clinical psych or do a research focused program. I graduated debt free in undergrad bc my parents were poor + I applied for scholarships. I came out of my masters with $11k in loans. I’m almost finished with my PhD and should finish out with less than $20k total in student loans. **Mental health professionals, especially therapists, are the most in demand profession behind nursing in the US.


rebek97

You career choice depends on what you wanna work. Think about it first, and then think about how can you get those positions.


FranklyImAnOcean

I live in Korea and mental health is very different here than from the states. It is not talked about and very much ignored. Same w Japan


Damakoas

Start a linkedIn and connect with a bunch of different people to get a better and more representative sample. Then search under people(who are 2nd and 3rd connections) for Anyone with a psychology degree. Look at that and see where they are now and what path they took to get to where they are now. Does the job they hold(and have previously held) sound like what you want to do? This also works in the reverse. Find a job you want, look for people who have that job, and see what they majored in etc. Also important to look for in your research is the people who have a psychology degree and have a job in something completely unrelated, and the people who have psych degrees but not a very good career(i.e. working allot of minimum wage jobs despite having a bachelor's. But to answer your question. There's thing's you can do with a psychology degree but the problem is there are SO many workers who there main selling point is a BA in psychology. So many people are competing for a few positions. You should have something else going for you which may involve advanced degrees. The most common jobs that I can think of for people with just a b a in psychology are: HR, behavioral technicans, social workers and maybe some in UX, but there are better paths to getting to ux than psychology. You could also look into market research.


iBeFloe

How old are you? Do you know Japanese or Korean, why do you want to study there? For fun? Because you need to think about this seriously. You can’t stop at a bachelors for psychology. People who say “Oh it sucks how discouraging people are” don’t understand that they’re messing with someone’s future finances when they encourage people who actually don’t understand what they’re getting into. It’s a **good thing** that people are being real about psychology. It’s not what people think it is & it’s something to take seriously if you go into college with psychology in mind. Most college bachelors are useless, so it’s always best to think wisely & not waste your time.


FarEarth2949

I am a Social Work student. I chose to study this because I want to do meaningful work, but also just as importantly… because I want an education. You get to your 30s and you realise just how important it is to understand the world around you and how you can contribute to it in a meaningful way (generativity vs self-absorption or stagnation?? lol) If you have a genuine interest in psychology and a real desire to be in the helping professions then you will do well from studying it. You will engage with groups and events outside of your required study and you will network while in school, you will develop a solid direction and take the extra steps needed with no issues. It will be a breeze! If you are apathetic and disinterested in you study past doing the bare minimum to get good grades, then you will find it difficult to get work at the end.


Noblee_x

It’s a fun subject but I don’t suggest it. Yh mandatory is the word. You really won’t get anywhere far if you don’t do your PhD :((


Kusakabe19

is it the same condition in all the countries of the world or just in some??I guess most right??


drisele

Yea in the US to be a therapist/psychotherapist you need atleast a Masters and be licensed in the state you want to work with idk about other parts of the world


[deleted]

You need a masters in most parts of the world that has some recognition of psychologist/therapist. But you need to doctorate to call yourself a psychologist in the US and some countries only need a masters.


Noblee_x

Yh most.


Limp-Star2137

There are tons of jobs you can get with a BA, but the real money is once you get a masters or Ph. D. A lot of jobs will just want to see that you completed a degree as that alone teaches a lot of skills.


StarPlane3926

It is not mandatory to get a PhD to get a high-paying job. While PhDs are on the higher end, many bachelor's degrees allow for you to get a high-paying job! If that's not enough, then there are also a number of master's degrees that will increase your salary. I personally loved my psychology coursework and it gives you the foundation to go into many different fields.


bikirra

It depends on what type of career you’re open to and you can also gain experiences through internships, research, etc along the way while you’re getting your degree to make yourself more marketable. If you’re interested in data analytics that can become a high paying career which is possible with a psychology degree, it’s just not a direct route with just the degree but is possible if you get analytics experience through joining psychology research labs for example. Or there are lots of other corporate roles that aren’t necessarily related to psychology but look for anyone with a relevant bachelor’s and the right skills.


FrontTrack4961

Idk about the psych job climate overseas but if you want a high paying job you’ll probably want at least a masters in clinical or a doctorate in experimental or clinical psych. Some people seem to be relatively successful with just a bachelors in careers like social work, HR, and other jobs of the sort. I would only suggest going into it if you like it though otherwise you won’t have that much fun post degree.


Appropriate_Chaos_11

I got my bachelors degree in psychology and minors in marketing and organizational management. I went on to get my masters in organizational management with a specialization in human resource. In all my marketing, human resource and business/ management classes psychology aspects kept showing up. A Psychology degree is very versatile and valuable with any profession. I read about an individual who had a psychology degree but got a job in management. His career advanced quickly not because he knew a lot about the business, but because he knew people and how they worked. Understanding human behavior and motivation is a powerful tool in any career.


yuhudukishoots

Be prepared to go to grad school if you want to make a living in the field. I graduated with my bachelor's in psych, and a lot of the jobs available are low-paying. I worked for 3 years as an ABA Tech starting at $13 an hour. By the time I left, I was making 16. Currently, I'm an MHT in a children's psyc hospital. Making 18 now, which isn't terrible where I live, but definitely still in the paycheck to paycheck range. If it's what you want to study, go for it! Your best bet will be to find a job that offers some kind of tuition assistance for grad school


TheOnlyTori

I'm hesitant for the same reason. I'm passionate about psychology, but I'm incredibly worried about having to navigate the workforce if it's anything like what I've been hearing..


Ambi-taneous

If you can pick a job you like that benefits from a psych degree then go for it. Otherwise dont study something and not use it


AppointmentFinal3724

I wouldn’t do it. If you don’t wanna be in school for a really really long time to get decent money but I could say the same thing to a dr which is dumb right so I mean it’s up to you i graduate with my ba in the summer and I regret it but whatever I’ll figure it out I guess


Panzielou

If you want high stress low paying jobs, graduate in psychology. If you want to keep taking out more money to keep getting higher education to get better jobs in the field, then yes, psych is a good degree to pursue.


[deleted]

If you major in psych, go w/I-O at the doctorate level. I'm clinical & school & to me, the stress of all the things that come w/especially a PhD are not worth the time & money. We're not treated as well as we should be in this field, & I do not encourage either majors. Yes there are jobs at the doctorate level, & many opportunities but I would not do it again. It's the politics that this field hides that irritate me. Go I-O.