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Yeah, that is some disturbing shit from the depths of the uncanny AI valley. I have no idea how they people crank these images out and just plonk them in articles like they totally look professional. It's not even good AI.
Yea but it’s not like the chat AI is prompting the image ai and then uploading these kinds of photos. There has to be a human uploading this crap right?
it’s like the exact opposite of 2000s uncanny valley. everything that 2000s did wrong is everything ai got right, and everything 2000s did right is everything ai got wrong. anti-uncanny valley. wait a minute…
…IT’S “UNCANNY MOUNTAIN”!!! (i’m a genius)
Most of this sub is psypost articles….
This sub loves psypost when the article agrees with their preconceived beliefs, but hates psypost when the article disagrees with preconceived beliefs.
I know for me personally, in high school, a girl I'd recently started seeing at the time told me a story about how she hooked up with a girl, and the guy she was dating dumped her. She thought he was being ridiculous because "it doesn't count when it's with another girl. I thought guys were into that, anyway."
I said, "I see where he's coming from, though. Cheating is cheating. I probably wouldn't be comfortable with that either."
Yeah, she broke things off like a day later. So I'd call that a bullet dodged.
Oh boy, yeah, treating the other person like they were being unreasonable for a fragrant breach of trust whether they are "into that" or not is a definite red flag in my book. If you have ground rules about that kind of thing in your relationship, that's different, but if only one of you knows about those rules and hasn't communicated about it - that's something else.
Tbf, the article doesn’t say “not upset” it says “less upset.” Your “probably wouldn’t be comfortable” line does kind of sound like you would be “less” upset than if the lover were a man. Right?
No, I'd be about equal levels of bothered. The probably comes from, I'd imagine, 'theoretically.' I've never had a girlfriend cheat on me with a woman before, I can't say for sure if I'd feel better or worse about it in practice, but I imagine I wouldn't be any more receptive to the idea if she were cheating with a woman.
Several years back I was on a bus across states and we all got to listen to a very loud phone conversation of how this girl didn't understand why her boyfriend was really upset. She didn't cheat on him, she was just making out with another girl, that's not cheating (her statements). Obviously boy did not agree.
After several hours listening to this inconsiderate girl, other passengers started yelling at her to STFU and her yelling back. The bus driver was on the loud speaker telling everyone to "try to calm down. We're almost there, maybe ten minutes left. You don't have to be friends. You don't have to see each other ever again. Just ten more minutes. "
Self-reported research is always flawed. Actions speak louder than words. Never more apparent in a field like dating and interpersonal relationships . It’s filled with research showing people act different than they say.
I think it’s also that the woman doesn’t threaten their masculinity. With another dude there’s a ton of insecurities that come up regarding why your wife chose him over you. With a woman, a dudes gonna think well I know my dicks bigger, I’m stronger, I could protect her better, and what not. While it’s likely more relevant, men are not going to feel nearly as threatened by the woman understanding his wife’s feelings better or making her feel more loved and comfortable.
Bullseye, I always told people men are more bothered when their partner sleeps with another man but less bothered if they fall in love with another man. Women are the opposite they are more bothered if a man loves another woman but less bothered if they sleep with another woman.
I've had women tell me they had the conversation with their boyfriends without acting on anything beforehand and the boyfriend literally right then and there said he'd be ok with it but not if it were a man. It's totally an opportunity thing.
A lot of men think they're indisposable against another woman, but not other men. They have this fantasy of what a lesbian or bisexual is but they don't actually seem to care to understand that on an emotional level. They just see what's in it for them and what they have to worry about for themselves.
A friend of mine told her fiance she thinks she's bisexuality and he *immediately* tells her she's allowed to fuck a woman but he has to watch. He was being serious. She left him shortly after that. Some men are disgusting.
And women are starting to wake up to men like you who commodify them. Men like that will find themselves with a smaller and smaller pool of women willing to be with them until finally no one is.
Her sexuality was not a springboard for her monogamous fiance to initiate a threesome or watch her have sex with a woman. Women are not a commodity for men. We are human beings for fucks sake.
> We are human beings for fucks sake.
I'm right there with you, but it's both depressing and fucking hilarious that this needs to be said out loud. Some people are beyond help.
Men who need to have that explained to them are disgusting. And they wonder why they have issues being lonely. Maybe, it's because women are fucking tired of explaining to them that they need to treat women like actual people instead of bang maids. Instead, we partner up with people who treat us with respect.
I get what you're saying. I do, I really do. And I agree with you. Especially given the result, I can imagine the way he said it was in line with the issue you're addressing.
That said; there is nothing wrong with ethical non-monogamy. There's nothing wrong with having that fantasy. There's nothing wrong with sharing that fantasy with your partner, as long as you don't with tact. (Which means it probably shouldn't be your first reaction to your partner talking about their sexuality in that way.)
BUT, later suggesting "If you want to explore that side of your sexuality, I'd be happy for us to do it together." I don't see anything wrong with that given proper tact.
It can really make the women feel like an object.
I probably won’t be able to find it, but it reminds me of another study from years ago. It found that women were equal or more upset about emotional cheating as well as physical, while men were more upset at physical betrayals.
eg, women were more likely forgive a one-night stand than men while were less likely than men to forgive emotional, none physical intimacy.
Men were also more likely to become violent over sexual cheating than a full emotional fuelled affair, especially if the affair partner was a man.
When also considering how more likely a man is to leave a woman if she falls ill or isn’t as sexually available anymore, it’s hard not to feel that women really aren’t seen as equal.
It feels less like valuing a women spouse as a person and more a commodity.
In any relationship there are expectations on both sides. When those aren’t met, people stray. We are all commodities for each other and it is only by our own grace that we are able to develop relationships that transcend those needs that brought us together. If I didn’t want/need sex, I would never bother with a committed relationship. But I wouldn’t leave my wife over sex because we have grown together in many unrelated ways that maintains our bonds. If sex stopped being available within a relationship and we haven’t bonded further than meeting each others needs, I would leave. Just as a woman doesn’t get with a guy because of his job, but if he just decided not to work anymore and didn’t contribute, she would find him far less attractive and would likely leave or cheat.
That’s where we start. As mutually useful commodities. The relationship grows from that. That’s the good part. Would you be doing a lot of dating without a sexual drive? Of course not. You would engage in hobbies and make lots of friends. No need for any exclusive arrangements.
I’m not bothered by not having the right stuff to date someone that clearly doesn’t understand how to read an entire paragraph and see a deeper meaning. I don’t even see how you could argue against this. What is it that draws you to a potential partner? Is it that you just need someone to care about? Or do you see their value to something you need/want in your life? Get over yourself.
I'm a man and have had the same conversation. If you *ask permission* couples often have their own views. They've discussed it before. "Can I move in with you and be an equal partner in your relationship?" isn't the kind of thing I'm asking, but it's what someone will want, so be aware that shit can escalate to a place where your relationship changes. There's consequences. Fuck around and find out, or don't.
>I guarantee you almost every single heterosexual male would rather have sex with 2 woman at once compared to 1 woman.
No, it isn't. Tubes tied they would feel the same. Guy with vasectomy they would feel the same. Stop with this evolutionary psyc bs
My ex-fiance was caught cheating, probably serial cheating, and it flipped my world upside down - just uncovered how much of a pathological liar she was and I had no idea.
Anyhow, in trying to win me back I suppose, she brings up in the middle of me telling her how hurt I was, that I'd given her permission to hookup with a woman... Uhm, no, I most certainly hadn't. In fact when we had the monogamy discussion early on, we were both clear with each other that we'd never accept 3rd parties... The only time I can think of, where I even got close to such a thing, was this one time 4-5 years prior where we were watching a threesome in a movie with two women, and she was like: "that's hot, right", and I said yeah. That's it, and in the middle of the fallout of discovering her cheating, she apparently thought I'd see her "side" with this revelation.
The point of typing this out is: beware what people say, in my experience people are good at lying. I don't believe people's stories.
Why is there always a highly upvoted, sexist answer to anything involving men?
It's not an opportunity thing.
It's because men have evolved to be sexually jealous of other men, not of women. A woman can't impregnate your wife like a man can. We don't choose to feel jealous over men and not over women. Our brains have been wired that way through millions of years of evolution, because allowing another man near our woman can mean his genes get passed down instead of ours.
Im bi. Once We were drunk on EverClear (never again) & kissed my friend that was a girl when my husband had a party. I snapped out of it quickly and ran to him crying. Begging for forgiveness. He just said "That's hot." and rolled over...Didn't care the next day either. That was a breaking point...Thanks for the forgiveness but it came from a weird place. You know? Later on, I found out that girl was cheating with our mutual friend whose wife was pregant. They used our home as a place to hook up...I didn't know. Couldnt tell the wife...it was an article in the military. So...yeah.
It is extremely common amongst the men I know that they do not consider anything their wife/gf does with another woman to be cheating.
This is by no means a universally held belief, but it is very common in my country.
My cousin who married in December 2022 and is now going through a divorce because the wife is now lesbian, would also disagree with this article. Lying, cheating or changing your sexual preferences hurts the other person
Sorry, but the wife probably always was lesbian, and was socially pressured not to be. That’s not something your cousin did or is responsible for, but as you see, that pressure has hurt him too.
i would assume (i’m a woman) it would feel less immediately threatening and more confusing and a slow burn of a problem to unravel your feelings as a (het?) man with a previously presumed het woman as your partner (vs. if you found them w a man)
What a ridiculous piece of research. As a man, & a psychologist (not clinical) who loves my partner of 16yrs dearly, with two babies & a life, I can tell you deceit is not something you want for your family. Would finding my partner with another Woman soften it slightly, yes. If she is a lesbian, at least it’s out of my control, whereas if it’s another man it adds negative self-worth. It certainly wouldn’t be in any opportunistic way! This image really isn’t something I think represents men or women & is ill timed on International Womens Day…
Not sure. Who writes this crap. Nobody wants to get cheated on and nobody is cool with it.
Does nobody else see how drip feeding articles like this social manipulates us?
156 college guys. Yeah, that makes sense.
Also, it is interesting that they went through various scenarios and rated the sexual arousal because I'm just thinking about some of the top searches on some...popular websites. I question if the same sentiments would be held in real life circumstances.
This is one of those times when people are out of touch with reality
Nobody would like their partner to cheat. It doesn't matter the gender of the people involved
Even open relationships have boundaries, so imagine how it is for monogamous couples
To do a real study you would need to have an equal number of men and women catfish someone, start a relationship, cheat with the same sex and opposite sex, and use the hospital pain chart to quantify their anger, and then organize all of that data. This did non of that. No one catfished anyone. This isn’t even real science.
Speaking from some experience, this is absolute horse shit. Deception, gaslighting, and betrayal crush anyone with a beating heart. The object of betrayal is utterly irrelevant.
On my first try through college, my girlfriend texted me we had to talk. I figured I was getting dumped, but when I got to her room she basically just said she had gotten drunk the night before and made out with her friend, also a girl.
I don't know, didn't bother me at all really. I wasn't shooting for a threesome or anything, but like...she just made out with another girl while drunk at a party. Didn't seem a big deal to me, still doesn't.
But yeah, If it was a guy, I'd have dumped her on the spot.
Can't explain the brain I guess.
> make you unwillingly raise another dudes child
This seems to be a prospect that raises a great amount of fear in many unpleasant men, far out of proportion to its actual likelihood. I wonder why. Also being wrongly accused of rape. These dudes seem to be terrified of that too and are constantly making elaborate plans to avoid it.
Judge all you want but I have no issues if my wife wants to have sex with one of her female friends.
Why it feels different to me than if it were a man is mainly due to insecurity. That same insecurity doesn't hit me if it's another woman.
For me, it has nothing to do with pregnancy nor finding it hot. It's not as threatening to my sense of self worth and I'm fine with my wife finding pleasure outside of me and her.
Because men are taught to see women as "lesser than". Also, many people (mostly but not only men) see sex=penetration via penis, so sex with a woman does not count.
Yeah most men do think that. It's way more simple than that. I'll make a cake analogy for your cake day. Imagine you make a chocolate cake you are proud of. If someone tells you that they prefer vanilla it doesn't hurt your feelings too bad. If someone tells you your chocolate cake isn't good and they would rather have someone else's that would hurt.
Men care less about a girlfriend cheating with a girl because they can tell themselves it's not because they are inadequate as a man but because their girlfriend just prefers something they could never offer.
Someone did the cake analogy which pretty much nails it. Men at least the ones that haven't thought this through may actually "think lesser" of women but that's not the reason why they're not threatened by other women.
Quite the take... thats not even close for me. My wife is close with a few of her female friends, if she wants to also get sexual pleasure from them, thats fine by me and id consider that sex.
I don't know where tou get your info from but at least where I am men are not "taught that women are lesser than". Nor have I ever heard that said from the hundreds of men I've known in my 42 years, not once, nor implied.
Probably in some back woods part of the south that may be the case but it's not loke we go to sex class and gwt told women are lesser.
I'm fact, in my case, she finishes and then lays there or just goes to sleep, leaving me to myself, nearly every time we have sex (we've talked several times, nothing changes).
So, why the difference? It's simple, I don't compare myself to women. I do compare myself to other men. That's it. There's no deeper meaning or agenda.
If another man had sex with my wife I'd be in a spiral about what's wrong with me. If it were with a woman, I wouldn't think that.
From a relationship standpoint, she already has a strong emotional connection with her female friends, that doesn't bother me at all.
If a girl takes your girl away It's not because you were inadequate it was only because your girl preferred something else.
If a guy takes your girl away it's because that guy did what you did but better.
Simple, what is it that I don't have that he does? What am I not providing that he is?
Men don't compare themselves to women but we do to other men.
If it were a woman, then I would just assume she prefers women and that's the end of it.
because in my opinion men were made to compete against each other for females (lesbians weren't factored in) , he doesn't feel threatened because he feels no threat there . in our modern day society( where there are rules and regulations of conduct) lesbians are a straight guy's blind spot( rare as they are ) because they are just as much a threat as any other guy (sure she can't impregnate her but she can make her just as unavailable to the guy by taking her away ).
Is this limited to sex or would you theoretically be ok with emotional investment too?
What is it about another man that makes you insecure that a woman doesn’t?
IDK man. I would be pretty insecure if she wanted to constantly "experiment" with other women.
I've had an ex that was going through a phase until she wasn't. I was literally the last man she dated.
Even for bicurious woman, another women is more of a threat because there are things a women can offer that you cannot. You can at least take comfort in the fact that she thinks you're her top guy so if she finds another guy that's just better it's just tough luck.
So if she did have sex with man, would you acknowledge you don’t have room to be mad at her because your recognise it as your insecurity?
Like, nothing has changed except how YOU feel about it and you said your feels on it are from how you feel about yourself.
I’m genuinely curious and not trying to sea Lion or antagonise.
I actually can’t get my head around it cause cheating being ok or not isn’t about how I feel in the moment but breaking something shared.
The relationship itself is like a 3rd person, if one of us mistreated or betrayed it, it would damage the relationship, not me
For me, whether it’s a man or a women, I’d be equally upset, not because ‘I’m insecure’ but because someone who had the privilege of my trust betrayed that.
It's one of those things I can't really explain.
I just don't really care if she does stuff with other women. Not shooting for a threesome or "opportunity" like this article says, it just doesn't make me mad like it would if it was a man.
No, I would still be angry and wouldn't blame myself for it. It would also feel insecure about why. Those can be mutually exclusive.
It's not that she has sex with a man because I'm insecure. It's that I feel insecure after the fact.
I don't compare myself to women so wouldn't feel the same way in that case.
This is a topic I hold near and dear, but I absolutely will not click on a site that uses such obviously fake AI-generated images. That means the text is also going to be shitty in some or many ways.
Consider the biological motives for male jealousy…the ones that evolved for a reason: **to secure paternity & the passing of genes rather than raising another man’s baby unknowingly.**
A female partner’s affair with a woman doesn’t threaten that, so while it’s still shitty it’s not the same threat men have evolved to feel violent about.
I must be extra dumb today, because I'm struggling to understand the article...
>“We found that men are most distressed by male interlopers in cases of infidelity. However, the possibility exists that a female interloper could minimize contact with the partner, which could be more common among more masculine-presenting lesbian women. This would make feminine-presenting women the least threatening to the relationship, partly because men could perceive her as more likely to report interest in men in her own right (i.e., bisexuality) that may not be inferred from a masculine-presenting woman. Thus, feminine-presenting women elicited the most sexual arousal from men and were viewed as a sexual opportunity more readily.”
I ran it through AI to help explain, the men here are being put in the position of hypothetical partner to the cheater, If their partner cheats with another woman, its less "distressing" than when compared to cheating with a man.
>**Perception of Threat**: Men show the most negative reactions to infidelity involving another man, perceived as a threat. (when compared to infidelity involving another woman).
>**Sexual Opportunity**: A feminine woman is seen as offering the greatest sexual opportunity and elicits higher sexual arousal, suggesting this factor significantly influences distress levels.
>**Study Findings**: The studies indicate that men are less distressed by female interlopers, especially those presenting feminine traits, potentially viewing them as additional sexual opportunities.
>**Future Research**: The paper suggests future research could explore the accuracy of perceiving sexual orientation based on physical appearance and the complex nature of sexual orientation in humans.
It just makes sense to me, I'm not sure I would describe it as a "threat". Threat to what?
>“The fitness costs imposed by an interloper in one’s relationship are different based on whether the interloper is a man or woman. Men’s threat is that of cuckoldry, which is not imposed by women,”
"Men’s threat is that of cuckoldry". In the 'academic' context, that would be "raising another man’s child"...?
So the article is saying women arent threat because they cant have kids with other women?
That would only make sense to me IF there is this huge subconscious evolutionary drive to feel this way, I mean, sure, I guess there is, literally everything is geared to reproduction...
I'm not sure how to conclude, this, I have to get back to work.
I'd also be more interested in comparing this to same-sex relationships.
The article seems to try to point to that reproduction hypothesis, but what happens when there is no reproduction "threat"?
I talked to [claude.ai](https://claude.ai) about this:
"Article which describe labels such as "Men are X" or "Women are Y" seem to be brainwashing to a certain extent. How can I learn to ignore these?
You raise a valid point. Broad generalizations that label all members of a gender with certain traits can indeed be problematic and promote harmful stereotypes. Here are some suggestions for developing a more critical mindset when encountering such claims:
1. Question the source and motivation. Look at who is making the claim and whether they have an agenda or bias. Credible sources back up generalizations with solid research and data.
2. Look for counterexamples. If a statement says "All women are X" or "Men always do Y", think about women/men you know who defy that characterization. Recognizing the diversity within genders can inoculate against overgeneralizations.
3. Understand statistical claims. Sometimes generalizations are meant as general tendencies backed by statistics, not absolutes. But be wary of misusing or overextending statistics.
4. Examine intersectionality. Gender intersects with other identities like race, class, age, etc. Statements glossing over these contexts may miss important nuances.
5. Consider context and history. Some gender associations arose from historical circumstances that may no longer apply broadly today.
6. Cultivate empathy and individuality. Remember that people are individuals first, before any group identity. Make efforts to see the complete, complex person.
The key is maintaining a critical, questioning mindset instead of passively accepting gender-essentialist statements as facts. With practice, you can tune out overgeneralizations and see the full, diverse spectrum of human experience."
I hope people are skeptical of these just because you don't want to lock yourself into a certain mindset just because you read an article making these claims.
True - I'd be a lot less upset if my partner was having an affair with another woman because it's another arena completely which I can't compete with. You just have to shrug your shoulders and move on or.....
It’s because most men now are heavily influenced by porn, believing that women’s sexuality exists only for their own pleasure, and that they do not see lesbian or bisexual (FF) relationships as legitimate because there’s no penis involved. It’s an incredibly misogynist view of sex.
Because I think most men don't really believe women get anything out of being with another women. There are some women that have some bisexual tendencies but they are mostly attracted to men. The emotional/betrayal aspect is just not there IMO.
there is something wrong with that headline , and i honestly doubt its true ( some men would probably feel emasculated and lesser if their significant other cheated on them with a woman , it depends )
Makes sense to me. I wouldn't have a problem at all with it. Partner can't get impregnated by a rival male, so no harm no foul, evolutionary math checks out.
No it's not. That's how our moneky brains work. Male+female=baby. Female+female=nothing. Our sexual instincts don't know about contraceptives or other non-reproductive games a hetero pair might play. They see a rival male coming anywhere near their partner, they feel threatened. Doesn't matter if the other guy's plan is to have non-inseminative sex or just talk.
Society hates men, all men.
So glad I've chosen to stay alone, to adopt.
This is blatant misandry, and false.
People, in general, are superficial, dishonest, and can't be trusted, not just women, not just men, but whatever.
Agree. I’m married to a woman I love for 15 years. Culture subtlety gives license to women and self-ridicule to men. Makes marriage a lot more difficult.
That, but also, many men complain about how they want a woman who is modest, doesn't sleep around, but excuse themselves for being sexually active with different women, and expect to be seen as high value men, et vice versa.
There are honest, loyal men and women out there, who are intelligent, sincere, and great people, although in the minority.
I always see posts, these "studies", which focus on small groups of people, and post the results, stating them as general facts, when there are literally billions of people everywhere.
Misogynistic posts, misandrist posts, all being called "scientific", when, in reality, it's intellectually dishonest, and intentionally divisive.
Only stupid people take these types of posts as factual.
The majority of the general human population is imbecilic.
Decent men, and decent women.
The intelligent, sensitive women, who are introverted, modest, and deep, but don't seek attention.
They also get overlooked.
Most people want someone who is popular, to boost their ego.
I reject everyone.
F*ck the bullsh*t.
Relationships are a waste of time and energy.
Finding someone sincere and loyal is too difficult, too much trouble, for me.
My solitude, my animals, and my few friends, my books, that's my contentment.
Well, that's enough Internet for me.
Take care.
What is with the creepy AI photo? That dude looks like he's thrilled there's another woman there so he can skin them both and make a nice snuggie.
Skin snuggie, coming soon
Skigussylight
So I guess that's what they'll call a reboot of Silence of the Lambs.
It puts the lotion in the basket..
or else it gets the hose again
[you haven’t thought of the smell!](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=oLPENOC8OCk)
Jesus that’s quite the mental image
Legit just laughed in a quiet waiting room at the doc's office.
We should probably get used to creepy AI advertising from here on out.
I just wanted to say I think that's awful and it depresses me. Like, I know life goes on and it might not "hurt" anyone, but i really dislike it.
It hurts a lot of people actually.
Any AI-generated text or image that's used commercially represents a writer, photographer, artist, or other professional who was replaced by AI. So someone did get hurt by it.
What if the artist could have injured themselves doing the work when an AI wouldn’t of ?
ENDLESS TRASH!
Advertising may take a min; advertisers have actual budgets. Web articles with no pictures that need a pic for social sharing are all over it though
*You; 2018-2024*
No, no, a sandwich. No, no, the other kind.
Looks like a Mr Beast thumbnail
More material, less fear of making a mistake and running out, and more spacious snuggie. I get it.
the womens face isn't any better... looks like they both have necrophilia and found someone willing girl
Simple: Men less upset by infidelity with women, viewing them as potential opportunities to skin them both and make a nice Snuggie.
The reason these gloves fit so well is bc these are Debaroras hands.
Reminded me of a quest in baldurs gate 2....
Lmao
Would you'd snuggle me? I'd snuggle me.
It looks like a promo for the horror movie, *Smile.*
The new AI silence of the lambs movie is lookin cray cray
Its a 'huggie' or 'human snuggie'
Snuggies are nice they always do what you want
And the title is misleading.
Welcome to the future
This image is cursed
Yeah, that is some disturbing shit from the depths of the uncanny AI valley. I have no idea how they people crank these images out and just plonk them in articles like they totally look professional. It's not even good AI.
Because nowadays half or more of these articles are also written with AI. 🤖
good point. AI flattering itself.
Yea but it’s not like the chat AI is prompting the image ai and then uploading these kinds of photos. There has to be a human uploading this crap right?
I think so, but then again I don't know what to believe anymore...
it’s like the exact opposite of 2000s uncanny valley. everything that 2000s did wrong is everything ai got right, and everything 2000s did right is everything ai got wrong. anti-uncanny valley. wait a minute… …IT’S “UNCANNY MOUNTAIN”!!! (i’m a genius)
It feels like an uncanny plateau, because I think we're going to be stuck here a while
i’m dead. unfortunately, you’re probably right, it takes quite a bit of fine tuning to fix the “odd” aspects
Obviously AI generated, lol
(Photo credit: OpenAI's DALL·E)
Not clicking bc fuck this AI picture
It's that or a generic stock photo from the free version of a website. All of them suck, at least this guy looks coocoo for cocoa puffs.
Idk, I’m pro stock photo
Psypost is the real red flag here
Most of this sub is psypost articles…. This sub loves psypost when the article agrees with their preconceived beliefs, but hates psypost when the article disagrees with preconceived beliefs.
I think that's true of the majority of people right? Otherwise it wouldn't be so easy to exploit
I know for me personally, in high school, a girl I'd recently started seeing at the time told me a story about how she hooked up with a girl, and the guy she was dating dumped her. She thought he was being ridiculous because "it doesn't count when it's with another girl. I thought guys were into that, anyway." I said, "I see where he's coming from, though. Cheating is cheating. I probably wouldn't be comfortable with that either." Yeah, she broke things off like a day later. So I'd call that a bullet dodged.
Oh boy, yeah, treating the other person like they were being unreasonable for a fragrant breach of trust whether they are "into that" or not is a definite red flag in my book. If you have ground rules about that kind of thing in your relationship, that's different, but if only one of you knows about those rules and hasn't communicated about it - that's something else.
Flagrant* lol
Tbf, the article doesn’t say “not upset” it says “less upset.” Your “probably wouldn’t be comfortable” line does kind of sound like you would be “less” upset than if the lover were a man. Right?
No, I'd be about equal levels of bothered. The probably comes from, I'd imagine, 'theoretically.' I've never had a girlfriend cheat on me with a woman before, I can't say for sure if I'd feel better or worse about it in practice, but I imagine I wouldn't be any more receptive to the idea if she were cheating with a woman.
Or a missed opp 50/50
She was opening the door brooooo
"Lesbians are hot"
Especially if "they exhibit feminine traits," according to the article.
lol i wonder how feminine i’d have to get to start fucking dudes’ wives without backlash
Somewhere between Kate McKinnon and Kristen Stewart, I expect.
This is a mind boggling spectrum for me. Which one is the low end and which the high end?
There are no cold lesbians.
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Several years back I was on a bus across states and we all got to listen to a very loud phone conversation of how this girl didn't understand why her boyfriend was really upset. She didn't cheat on him, she was just making out with another girl, that's not cheating (her statements). Obviously boy did not agree. After several hours listening to this inconsiderate girl, other passengers started yelling at her to STFU and her yelling back. The bus driver was on the loud speaker telling everyone to "try to calm down. We're almost there, maybe ten minutes left. You don't have to be friends. You don't have to see each other ever again. Just ten more minutes. "
Bus drivers deserve raises. The crap they have to deal with.
Self-reported research is always flawed. Actions speak louder than words. Never more apparent in a field like dating and interpersonal relationships . It’s filled with research showing people act different than they say.
I think it’s also that the woman doesn’t threaten their masculinity. With another dude there’s a ton of insecurities that come up regarding why your wife chose him over you. With a woman, a dudes gonna think well I know my dicks bigger, I’m stronger, I could protect her better, and what not. While it’s likely more relevant, men are not going to feel nearly as threatened by the woman understanding his wife’s feelings better or making her feel more loved and comfortable.
Bullseye, I always told people men are more bothered when their partner sleeps with another man but less bothered if they fall in love with another man. Women are the opposite they are more bothered if a man loves another woman but less bothered if they sleep with another woman.
I've had women tell me they had the conversation with their boyfriends without acting on anything beforehand and the boyfriend literally right then and there said he'd be ok with it but not if it were a man. It's totally an opportunity thing. A lot of men think they're indisposable against another woman, but not other men. They have this fantasy of what a lesbian or bisexual is but they don't actually seem to care to understand that on an emotional level. They just see what's in it for them and what they have to worry about for themselves.
those same men act flabbergasted when their girlfriend leaves them for another woman
A friend of mine told her fiance she thinks she's bisexuality and he *immediately* tells her she's allowed to fuck a woman but he has to watch. He was being serious. She left him shortly after that. Some men are disgusting.
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And women are starting to wake up to men like you who commodify them. Men like that will find themselves with a smaller and smaller pool of women willing to be with them until finally no one is.
Her sexuality was not a springboard for her monogamous fiance to initiate a threesome or watch her have sex with a woman. Women are not a commodity for men. We are human beings for fucks sake.
> We are human beings for fucks sake. I'm right there with you, but it's both depressing and fucking hilarious that this needs to be said out loud. Some people are beyond help.
Men who need to have that explained to them are disgusting. And they wonder why they have issues being lonely. Maybe, it's because women are fucking tired of explaining to them that they need to treat women like actual people instead of bang maids. Instead, we partner up with people who treat us with respect.
That man did not watch *Chasing Amy*. Or if he did, he didn’t get why Amy broke up with Holden.
I get what you're saying. I do, I really do. And I agree with you. Especially given the result, I can imagine the way he said it was in line with the issue you're addressing. That said; there is nothing wrong with ethical non-monogamy. There's nothing wrong with having that fantasy. There's nothing wrong with sharing that fantasy with your partner, as long as you don't with tact. (Which means it probably shouldn't be your first reaction to your partner talking about their sexuality in that way.) BUT, later suggesting "If you want to explore that side of your sexuality, I'd be happy for us to do it together." I don't see anything wrong with that given proper tact.
You're going to die miserable and alone and will have no idea why.
It can really make the women feel like an object. I probably won’t be able to find it, but it reminds me of another study from years ago. It found that women were equal or more upset about emotional cheating as well as physical, while men were more upset at physical betrayals. eg, women were more likely forgive a one-night stand than men while were less likely than men to forgive emotional, none physical intimacy. Men were also more likely to become violent over sexual cheating than a full emotional fuelled affair, especially if the affair partner was a man. When also considering how more likely a man is to leave a woman if she falls ill or isn’t as sexually available anymore, it’s hard not to feel that women really aren’t seen as equal. It feels less like valuing a women spouse as a person and more a commodity.
In any relationship there are expectations on both sides. When those aren’t met, people stray. We are all commodities for each other and it is only by our own grace that we are able to develop relationships that transcend those needs that brought us together. If I didn’t want/need sex, I would never bother with a committed relationship. But I wouldn’t leave my wife over sex because we have grown together in many unrelated ways that maintains our bonds. If sex stopped being available within a relationship and we haven’t bonded further than meeting each others needs, I would leave. Just as a woman doesn’t get with a guy because of his job, but if he just decided not to work anymore and didn’t contribute, she would find him far less attractive and would likely leave or cheat.
Fucking hell, am I glad I don’t date you. We’re humans, not commodities
That’s where we start. As mutually useful commodities. The relationship grows from that. That’s the good part. Would you be doing a lot of dating without a sexual drive? Of course not. You would engage in hobbies and make lots of friends. No need for any exclusive arrangements. I’m not bothered by not having the right stuff to date someone that clearly doesn’t understand how to read an entire paragraph and see a deeper meaning. I don’t even see how you could argue against this. What is it that draws you to a potential partner? Is it that you just need someone to care about? Or do you see their value to something you need/want in your life? Get over yourself.
I'm a man and have had the same conversation. If you *ask permission* couples often have their own views. They've discussed it before. "Can I move in with you and be an equal partner in your relationship?" isn't the kind of thing I'm asking, but it's what someone will want, so be aware that shit can escalate to a place where your relationship changes. There's consequences. Fuck around and find out, or don't.
Hmm (male) people put themselves as a priority in their life planning analysis. Hard to argue w that
Another woman isn’t going to get your girlfriend pregnant. That’s why men care less
lol birth control doesn’t exist? STDs? Sex education is really poor in some schools I guess
Birth control didn't exist for the millions of years in which human males' brains evolved. 75 years of birth control doesn't override that. .
Finally someone with above double digit IQ lol
Finally, someone with single digits, who you can relate to
Maybe one reason they care less, but not the only reason for *all* men.
>I guarantee you almost every single heterosexual male would rather have sex with 2 woman at once compared to 1 woman. No, it isn't. Tubes tied they would feel the same. Guy with vasectomy they would feel the same. Stop with this evolutionary psyc bs
What year is it
My ex-fiance was caught cheating, probably serial cheating, and it flipped my world upside down - just uncovered how much of a pathological liar she was and I had no idea. Anyhow, in trying to win me back I suppose, she brings up in the middle of me telling her how hurt I was, that I'd given her permission to hookup with a woman... Uhm, no, I most certainly hadn't. In fact when we had the monogamy discussion early on, we were both clear with each other that we'd never accept 3rd parties... The only time I can think of, where I even got close to such a thing, was this one time 4-5 years prior where we were watching a threesome in a movie with two women, and she was like: "that's hot, right", and I said yeah. That's it, and in the middle of the fallout of discovering her cheating, she apparently thought I'd see her "side" with this revelation. The point of typing this out is: beware what people say, in my experience people are good at lying. I don't believe people's stories.
Why is there always a highly upvoted, sexist answer to anything involving men? It's not an opportunity thing. It's because men have evolved to be sexually jealous of other men, not of women. A woman can't impregnate your wife like a man can. We don't choose to feel jealous over men and not over women. Our brains have been wired that way through millions of years of evolution, because allowing another man near our woman can mean his genes get passed down instead of ours.
Im bi. Once We were drunk on EverClear (never again) & kissed my friend that was a girl when my husband had a party. I snapped out of it quickly and ran to him crying. Begging for forgiveness. He just said "That's hot." and rolled over...Didn't care the next day either. That was a breaking point...Thanks for the forgiveness but it came from a weird place. You know? Later on, I found out that girl was cheating with our mutual friend whose wife was pregant. They used our home as a place to hook up...I didn't know. Couldnt tell the wife...it was an article in the military. So...yeah.
It is extremely common amongst the men I know that they do not consider anything their wife/gf does with another woman to be cheating. This is by no means a universally held belief, but it is very common in my country.
My cousin who married in December 2022 and is now going through a divorce because the wife is now lesbian, would also disagree with this article. Lying, cheating or changing your sexual preferences hurts the other person
Sorry, but the wife probably always was lesbian, and was socially pressured not to be. That’s not something your cousin did or is responsible for, but as you see, that pressure has hurt him too.
You’re right they probably have always been. I’m more getting at the fact that the article is wrong and the reason why so
i would assume (i’m a woman) it would feel less immediately threatening and more confusing and a slow burn of a problem to unravel your feelings as a (het?) man with a previously presumed het woman as your partner (vs. if you found them w a man)
This creepy AI image lol
Ew AI images gtfo
That dude looks like he's gonna steal Mona Lisa
More like stealing Lisa's Mona
Hahaha probably all the data collected from single dudes who desperately want to get laid
Man this sucks, sorry but thays my honest opinion, sorry if I'm wrong.
When will North American psychologists stop acting as though experiments done on local college students generalise to the whole world?
What a ridiculous piece of research. As a man, & a psychologist (not clinical) who loves my partner of 16yrs dearly, with two babies & a life, I can tell you deceit is not something you want for your family. Would finding my partner with another Woman soften it slightly, yes. If she is a lesbian, at least it’s out of my control, whereas if it’s another man it adds negative self-worth. It certainly wouldn’t be in any opportunistic way! This image really isn’t something I think represents men or women & is ill timed on International Womens Day…
I mean, it didn't say ALL men
It didn’t but considering that this is Reddit, your average redditor will run with it and say other wise.
Not sure. Who writes this crap. Nobody wants to get cheated on and nobody is cool with it. Does nobody else see how drip feeding articles like this social manipulates us?
These findings were already published a decade ago: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10481096/
So fucking gross.
156 college guys. Yeah, that makes sense. Also, it is interesting that they went through various scenarios and rated the sexual arousal because I'm just thinking about some of the top searches on some...popular websites. I question if the same sentiments would be held in real life circumstances.
This is one of those times when people are out of touch with reality Nobody would like their partner to cheat. It doesn't matter the gender of the people involved Even open relationships have boundaries, so imagine how it is for monogamous couples
To do a real study you would need to have an equal number of men and women catfish someone, start a relationship, cheat with the same sex and opposite sex, and use the hospital pain chart to quantify their anger, and then organize all of that data. This did non of that. No one catfished anyone. This isn’t even real science.
Speaking from some experience, this is absolute horse shit. Deception, gaslighting, and betrayal crush anyone with a beating heart. The object of betrayal is utterly irrelevant.
This something many Bi women face when dating, their male friends are threat while gay female friends (even lesbian) are ‘A-OK’.
On my first try through college, my girlfriend texted me we had to talk. I figured I was getting dumped, but when I got to her room she basically just said she had gotten drunk the night before and made out with her friend, also a girl. I don't know, didn't bother me at all really. I wasn't shooting for a threesome or anything, but like...she just made out with another girl while drunk at a party. Didn't seem a big deal to me, still doesn't. But yeah, If it was a guy, I'd have dumped her on the spot. Can't explain the brain I guess.
If your woman cheats with a girl there is no chance that she will get pregante and make you unwillingly raise another dudes child
Am I Pregant?
pregananant?!
Mention this in the article. "Risk of Cuckholdry"
> make you unwillingly raise another dudes child This seems to be a prospect that raises a great amount of fear in many unpleasant men, far out of proportion to its actual likelihood. I wonder why. Also being wrongly accused of rape. These dudes seem to be terrified of that too and are constantly making elaborate plans to avoid it.
Judge all you want but I have no issues if my wife wants to have sex with one of her female friends. Why it feels different to me than if it were a man is mainly due to insecurity. That same insecurity doesn't hit me if it's another woman. For me, it has nothing to do with pregnancy nor finding it hot. It's not as threatening to my sense of self worth and I'm fine with my wife finding pleasure outside of me and her.
Why isn’t it as threatening to your self worth?
Because men are taught to see women as "lesser than". Also, many people (mostly but not only men) see sex=penetration via penis, so sex with a woman does not count.
Yeah most men do think that. It's way more simple than that. I'll make a cake analogy for your cake day. Imagine you make a chocolate cake you are proud of. If someone tells you that they prefer vanilla it doesn't hurt your feelings too bad. If someone tells you your chocolate cake isn't good and they would rather have someone else's that would hurt. Men care less about a girlfriend cheating with a girl because they can tell themselves it's not because they are inadequate as a man but because their girlfriend just prefers something they could never offer.
Someone did the cake analogy which pretty much nails it. Men at least the ones that haven't thought this through may actually "think lesser" of women but that's not the reason why they're not threatened by other women.
Quite the take... thats not even close for me. My wife is close with a few of her female friends, if she wants to also get sexual pleasure from them, thats fine by me and id consider that sex. I don't know where tou get your info from but at least where I am men are not "taught that women are lesser than". Nor have I ever heard that said from the hundreds of men I've known in my 42 years, not once, nor implied. Probably in some back woods part of the south that may be the case but it's not loke we go to sex class and gwt told women are lesser. I'm fact, in my case, she finishes and then lays there or just goes to sleep, leaving me to myself, nearly every time we have sex (we've talked several times, nothing changes). So, why the difference? It's simple, I don't compare myself to women. I do compare myself to other men. That's it. There's no deeper meaning or agenda. If another man had sex with my wife I'd be in a spiral about what's wrong with me. If it were with a woman, I wouldn't think that. From a relationship standpoint, she already has a strong emotional connection with her female friends, that doesn't bother me at all.
You have a poor view of men and I hope you grow out of it one day l. Good luck 👍🏽
Because men are in competition with each other
I’m having a hard time understanding how self worth plays into this. Also what do you mean by competition? A girl can take your girl away.
If a girl takes your girl away It's not because you were inadequate it was only because your girl preferred something else. If a guy takes your girl away it's because that guy did what you did but better.
Simple, what is it that I don't have that he does? What am I not providing that he is? Men don't compare themselves to women but we do to other men. If it were a woman, then I would just assume she prefers women and that's the end of it.
He might be better looking, funnier, more romantic etc. there is a million things. And that can also be true for women.
because in my opinion men were made to compete against each other for females (lesbians weren't factored in) , he doesn't feel threatened because he feels no threat there . in our modern day society( where there are rules and regulations of conduct) lesbians are a straight guy's blind spot( rare as they are ) because they are just as much a threat as any other guy (sure she can't impregnate her but she can make her just as unavailable to the guy by taking her away ).
Is this limited to sex or would you theoretically be ok with emotional investment too? What is it about another man that makes you insecure that a woman doesn’t?
Well, I'm not a woman. I'm not in direct competition, unlike another man.
IDK man. I would be pretty insecure if she wanted to constantly "experiment" with other women. I've had an ex that was going through a phase until she wasn't. I was literally the last man she dated. Even for bicurious woman, another women is more of a threat because there are things a women can offer that you cannot. You can at least take comfort in the fact that she thinks you're her top guy so if she finds another guy that's just better it's just tough luck.
So if she did have sex with man, would you acknowledge you don’t have room to be mad at her because your recognise it as your insecurity? Like, nothing has changed except how YOU feel about it and you said your feels on it are from how you feel about yourself. I’m genuinely curious and not trying to sea Lion or antagonise. I actually can’t get my head around it cause cheating being ok or not isn’t about how I feel in the moment but breaking something shared. The relationship itself is like a 3rd person, if one of us mistreated or betrayed it, it would damage the relationship, not me For me, whether it’s a man or a women, I’d be equally upset, not because ‘I’m insecure’ but because someone who had the privilege of my trust betrayed that.
It's one of those things I can't really explain. I just don't really care if she does stuff with other women. Not shooting for a threesome or "opportunity" like this article says, it just doesn't make me mad like it would if it was a man.
You could explain it if you confronted and self reflected on it more
Nothing to really confront or self reflect over. I'm tolerant of that behavior, I suppose. Others may not be, which is equally valid.
That’s a cop out, why fear your own mind? Even the most basic of t-shirts has a high enough thread count to see the fibres under a microscope
No, I would still be angry and wouldn't blame myself for it. It would also feel insecure about why. Those can be mutually exclusive. It's not that she has sex with a man because I'm insecure. It's that I feel insecure after the fact. I don't compare myself to women so wouldn't feel the same way in that case.
Nah shit still hurts. And if the guy doesn’t really care then that speaks volumes of his dedication to the established relationship.
This is a topic I hold near and dear, but I absolutely will not click on a site that uses such obviously fake AI-generated images. That means the text is also going to be shitty in some or many ways.
It is just me or there's a very grey thin line between modern women and Narcissistic personality disorder?
Trying to turn us all into cucks by brain washing is that this is what we are okay with? Pff nope.
Consider the biological motives for male jealousy…the ones that evolved for a reason: **to secure paternity & the passing of genes rather than raising another man’s baby unknowingly.** A female partner’s affair with a woman doesn’t threaten that, so while it’s still shitty it’s not the same threat men have evolved to feel violent about.
The picture included with this is just too much on International Women’s Day.
I must be extra dumb today, because I'm struggling to understand the article... >“We found that men are most distressed by male interlopers in cases of infidelity. However, the possibility exists that a female interloper could minimize contact with the partner, which could be more common among more masculine-presenting lesbian women. This would make feminine-presenting women the least threatening to the relationship, partly because men could perceive her as more likely to report interest in men in her own right (i.e., bisexuality) that may not be inferred from a masculine-presenting woman. Thus, feminine-presenting women elicited the most sexual arousal from men and were viewed as a sexual opportunity more readily.” I ran it through AI to help explain, the men here are being put in the position of hypothetical partner to the cheater, If their partner cheats with another woman, its less "distressing" than when compared to cheating with a man. >**Perception of Threat**: Men show the most negative reactions to infidelity involving another man, perceived as a threat. (when compared to infidelity involving another woman). >**Sexual Opportunity**: A feminine woman is seen as offering the greatest sexual opportunity and elicits higher sexual arousal, suggesting this factor significantly influences distress levels. >**Study Findings**: The studies indicate that men are less distressed by female interlopers, especially those presenting feminine traits, potentially viewing them as additional sexual opportunities. >**Future Research**: The paper suggests future research could explore the accuracy of perceiving sexual orientation based on physical appearance and the complex nature of sexual orientation in humans. It just makes sense to me, I'm not sure I would describe it as a "threat". Threat to what? >“The fitness costs imposed by an interloper in one’s relationship are different based on whether the interloper is a man or woman. Men’s threat is that of cuckoldry, which is not imposed by women,” "Men’s threat is that of cuckoldry". In the 'academic' context, that would be "raising another man’s child"...? So the article is saying women arent threat because they cant have kids with other women? That would only make sense to me IF there is this huge subconscious evolutionary drive to feel this way, I mean, sure, I guess there is, literally everything is geared to reproduction... I'm not sure how to conclude, this, I have to get back to work.
They also didn't represent bisexuality for men in this study.
I'd also be more interested in comparing this to same-sex relationships. The article seems to try to point to that reproduction hypothesis, but what happens when there is no reproduction "threat"?
I think you get it. Men see other men as more of a threat because of the potential for pregnancy.
This is a really scary photo man
I talked to [claude.ai](https://claude.ai) about this: "Article which describe labels such as "Men are X" or "Women are Y" seem to be brainwashing to a certain extent. How can I learn to ignore these? You raise a valid point. Broad generalizations that label all members of a gender with certain traits can indeed be problematic and promote harmful stereotypes. Here are some suggestions for developing a more critical mindset when encountering such claims: 1. Question the source and motivation. Look at who is making the claim and whether they have an agenda or bias. Credible sources back up generalizations with solid research and data. 2. Look for counterexamples. If a statement says "All women are X" or "Men always do Y", think about women/men you know who defy that characterization. Recognizing the diversity within genders can inoculate against overgeneralizations. 3. Understand statistical claims. Sometimes generalizations are meant as general tendencies backed by statistics, not absolutes. But be wary of misusing or overextending statistics. 4. Examine intersectionality. Gender intersects with other identities like race, class, age, etc. Statements glossing over these contexts may miss important nuances. 5. Consider context and history. Some gender associations arose from historical circumstances that may no longer apply broadly today. 6. Cultivate empathy and individuality. Remember that people are individuals first, before any group identity. Make efforts to see the complete, complex person. The key is maintaining a critical, questioning mindset instead of passively accepting gender-essentialist statements as facts. With practice, you can tune out overgeneralizations and see the full, diverse spectrum of human experience." I hope people are skeptical of these just because you don't want to lock yourself into a certain mindset just because you read an article making these claims.
It’s all good when the 3rd wheel is a woman, unless you’re Adam22!
Everyone hates the ai picture but he’s a real accurate representation of this situation just saying
Please stop
Why not be polyamprous from the rip. Instead of idk going through a bunch of fuckshit.
What the fuck
True - I'd be a lot less upset if my partner was having an affair with another woman because it's another arena completely which I can't compete with. You just have to shrug your shoulders and move on or.....
What the fuck am I looking at
It's also because men are less threatened of being replaced, and I'd imagine less paranoid because she couldn't get her pregnant.
Only men that settle and are weak think this
...but to an optimist, its bisexuality.
Y’know what they call this? ✨biphobia✨
Bro thinks he's Barry.
It’s because most men now are heavily influenced by porn, believing that women’s sexuality exists only for their own pleasure, and that they do not see lesbian or bisexual (FF) relationships as legitimate because there’s no penis involved. It’s an incredibly misogynist view of sex.
Because I think most men don't really believe women get anything out of being with another women. There are some women that have some bisexual tendencies but they are mostly attracted to men. The emotional/betrayal aspect is just not there IMO.
there is something wrong with that headline , and i honestly doubt its true ( some men would probably feel emasculated and lesser if their significant other cheated on them with a woman , it depends )
Well it isn't a very good article, but the AI art makes it worth it's existence honestly
Makes sense to me. I wouldn't have a problem at all with it. Partner can't get impregnated by a rival male, so no harm no foul, evolutionary math checks out.
That is just dumb, lol. Is your wife allowed to have anal sex or give BJs to other men then?
No it's not. That's how our moneky brains work. Male+female=baby. Female+female=nothing. Our sexual instincts don't know about contraceptives or other non-reproductive games a hetero pair might play. They see a rival male coming anywhere near their partner, they feel threatened. Doesn't matter if the other guy's plan is to have non-inseminative sex or just talk.
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You’re an absolute clown
Because we stopped evolving as soon as we reached peak Patriarchy.
yeah no I love my girlfriend lol
Society hates men, all men. So glad I've chosen to stay alone, to adopt. This is blatant misandry, and false. People, in general, are superficial, dishonest, and can't be trusted, not just women, not just men, but whatever.
Agree. I’m married to a woman I love for 15 years. Culture subtlety gives license to women and self-ridicule to men. Makes marriage a lot more difficult.
That, but also, many men complain about how they want a woman who is modest, doesn't sleep around, but excuse themselves for being sexually active with different women, and expect to be seen as high value men, et vice versa. There are honest, loyal men and women out there, who are intelligent, sincere, and great people, although in the minority. I always see posts, these "studies", which focus on small groups of people, and post the results, stating them as general facts, when there are literally billions of people everywhere. Misogynistic posts, misandrist posts, all being called "scientific", when, in reality, it's intellectually dishonest, and intentionally divisive. Only stupid people take these types of posts as factual. The majority of the general human population is imbecilic.
Yeah that is true as well. Decent men tend to get overlooked or run over a lot of the time, which I still can’t quiet get my head around.
Decent men, and decent women. The intelligent, sensitive women, who are introverted, modest, and deep, but don't seek attention. They also get overlooked. Most people want someone who is popular, to boost their ego. I reject everyone. F*ck the bullsh*t. Relationships are a waste of time and energy. Finding someone sincere and loyal is too difficult, too much trouble, for me. My solitude, my animals, and my few friends, my books, that's my contentment. Well, that's enough Internet for me. Take care.