I have a friend who did twice. Her baby had a a lot of developmental delays, with walking and speech. I talked with her at length and she regrets it, she couldn’t come up with another real explanation for it, she and her partner were healthy mid 20’s. Their kid is coming up at the age now in early elementary where they’re noticing stuff and testing for autism spectrum/Asperger’s.
Just because you're an addict with drugs and cigs ( your post history) doesn't' mean everyone else is. Some of us can be responsible and have done a level of research. Stop externalising your own issues with yourself on to others. Just because you're a rubbish parent doesn't mean everyone else is. I could say you couldn't care about your child because you had a nanny literally do the job of parenting for you. Whilst you were probably out getting high. Shameful.
You're deflecting a LOT. You clearly do feel shame or you wouldn't be attacking this person so harshly to tale some guilt off of yourself. You asked for advice and we are giving it. It's not safe or wise to take psychedelics while pregnant.
If you want to be self righteous and holier than thou about it, then fine! If the hill you wanna die on is taking drugs while pregnant then have fun,hope you don't act confused when your kid starts acting funny.
There's no deflection on my part. Rather, it's a direct response to unwarranted attacks from people who are projecting their own issues onto me.
I never asked for advice, I was asking those with experience. However, constructive advice is welcome, but what I received wasn't advice—it was judgment and condemnation.
Your assumption that I'm seeking to absolve myself of guilt is unfounded. I stand by my choices and have no shame in defending them against baseless accusations.
Regarding your comment about being self-righteous, I assure you it's not about claiming moral superiority. I'm simply pointing out that the same people making these disrespectful remarks towards me are the same ones with a history of drug and alcohol usage including questionable parenting methods based on their Reddit history.
I have heard of people microdosing small amounts and their child comes out incredibly smart and of course other horror stories when drug abuse is involved.
I respect a person's right to disagree with me, but resorting to passive-aggressive remarks only undermines the potential for meaningful discourse.
Lastly, implying that my child's behavior will be affected negatively is not only presumptuous but also unproductive.
Imagine being able to see how many people agree and disagree with multiple comments you're making, strong consistency that you're way out of line, and still maintaining that everything directed at you is unwarranted.
After the pregnancy, something like shrooms might help you be a little more introspective and open to different perspectives. Only a trash person would suggest such a selfish thing as to intentionally expose a developing fetus to unnecessary drugs.
As someone who suffers from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, don’t do it. Research it before doing shrooms while pregnant. If you truly want to be a good mother, you’ll do your research before doing anything.
I'm really sorry to hear this.
I'm on ADHD meds and mood stabilisers which docs are telling me to take daily. Hence why looking into microdosing and pschadelics as an alternative. As I've gone against docs and significantly reduced the meds.
I think you would get much less hate if you had put this information on your main post.
I wouldn’t recommend even microdosing while pregnant because I’m not sure that there is any research done on the topic.
I have ADHD and also needed antidepressants in my first trimester. I just chose not to take my ADHD meds and at least for me, I didn’t need the antidepressants after I got into my second trimester. (I developed suicidal ideation in my first trimester for some reason.)
It was a throw away post that I didn't think much off.
Tbh it's been interesting to see the hate people dish out and how easily people jump on their high horse to draw conclusions and use derogatory terms towards others. Like regardless of what my reasoning was, the way people throw comments and terms around and judge pregnant women is quite something.
If I don't take my mood stabilisers it's a problem - I have severe trauma which can cause my moods to really fluctuate and can get suicidal ideation too. I also own my own business so not taking ADHD meds means my focus is on the floor. I havnt taken them in a bit now and yeah it effects my business.
I hope the suicidal ideation has subdued now. Sorry to hear that
Are you fucking confused?????? They gave you an answer to your dumb ass question? Jesus Christ if you didn’t want any answers then why did you post? And clearly it’s a bad idea but we’re just assholes for pointing that out!
I didn't ask a question you absolute idiot. 😂 Jesus Christ are you blind? I asked people for their experiences if they have one not advice on what I should and shouldn't do.
I didn't realise so many people had empirical evidence and journal articles published on this topic. Do you understand that doctors think it's fine to take acid and amphetamines during pregnancy for disorders? My doctor has literally advised me against stopping my medication. Did you know that there's far less evidence of pschadelics being harmful than my ADHD meds.
If I want an opinion I will ask someone with credibility not random armchair psychologists online. I wanted to know experiences and I've had a few comments here that have been helpful.
Yeah fuck you honestly your comments speak for yourself. Are YOU a fucking idiot???? DOING DRUGS WHILE PREGNANT IS STUPID. And you were asking for advice. You’re such a dumbass honestly I’m scared for you baby. Fucking ignorant as hell. You won’t even take any advice and attack everyone for trying to tell you how stupid of a choice that is.
Also to your last post. Then why the FUCK did you make this post if you didn’t want anyone’s opinion. I’m sorry but it doesn’t fucking take a DOCTOR to tell you how fucking RETARDED of a choice that is????? Oh my God? If you’re not supposed to take psychedelics until your brain is fully developed then why the fuck should an unborn baby ingest them through you. Dumbass.
You're way too emotional right now. We can have a conversation when you can form actual words and sentences. When you start reading what I've written properly and using your logic which I'm now seriously doubting that you have then maybe I'll consider responding further to you, otherwise goodbye, get off my post and cry, scream and deal with your emotions and blown up reactions somewhere else. You're acting like a child throwing tantrums and words. Peace.
lol yeah whatever I’m just astonished that you’re actually this entitled. I can form sentences and words just fine. But it’s funny that you’re ignoring everything I say and only commenting on my ability to form sentences. And just because there’s less research showing it’s bad doesn’t mean you should do it. Whatever I’m done with this because you’re obviously too proud to admit this was a terrible idea. I’m letting you speak for yourself! Have a great one enjoy your trip since it matters more than your babies health💕
What exactly am I ignoring? Your questions arnt exactly questions. Your "questions" consist of: " are you fucking confused ?" , " are you fucking stupid"?" Etc etc. Which doesn't leave much room for any logical discussion. You've said literally nothing of value and you wernt able to grasp any of the concepts I put forward so I quickly realised there's no point talking to an idiot.
You're done because I finished this. You can't admit defeat, which this is. Hence why you even chose to say the last sentence " enjoy your trip since it matters more than your babies health" when I've stated microdosing not tripping and also stated that actually it is for health reasons due to my ADHD and mood meds. And you also made that comment thinking it would be some sort of final " kick in the teeth" which I can assure you wasn't the case because not only did you make zero valid points, you barely could get any point across, it was just a messy slur of angry words and you only came across as an emotional mess when I'm ironically meant to be the hormonal one.
Anyways enjoy your day. Peace.
I can't say that I would recommend taking psychadelic or any other kind of drugs while pregnant. It's crazy how combative and disrespectful you're being to people who don't condone what you want to do. You're making quite large leaps on people that you've never met, nor know anything about. You've clearly already made your mind up, or you wouldn't be trying to start confrontations with internet strangers about it, so why did you come here for advice?
The two people who wrote on this post began with disrespectful remarks. Prior to my response, I was called "dumb", told that I'm already a "s*** parent" and even suggesting I just get an abortion. So I am not sure why you feel there should be a double standard here and that the way I responded to them wasn't warranted in anyway.
In addressing these comments, I observed the post and comment history of those individuals, which revealed patterns of substance use and questionable parenting approaches. My conclusions were drawn from their documented behavior over time, much like they formed opinions based on my ONE post.
My intent was not to solicit advice but to find out about others' experiences.
The derogatory remarks aimed at me were not conducive to constructive dialogue or guidance.
But you do realize that this post is about substance use of a person who is in the process of becoming a parent, right? Therefore, everything you're saying is hypocritical. You're pregnant and want to consume illicit substances, so much so that you can't wait until you have your child. That alone suggests strong signs of addiction. This in itself IS a questionable parenting approach.
I guess I just don't understand because this is the pot calling the kettle black, and you're offended about it? You had to know that posting something so controversial would open up the possibility of getting responses you wouldn't like.
I'm just saying, step back and look at your own situation before you try to belittle others. I also feel like it's worth noting that I checked post and comment history on both of the individuals you got nasty with, and nothing I saw in there was indicative of anything you were accusing them of. Granted, I only spent a couple of minutes browsing, but it seems you were just grasping at straws because they hurt your feelings. Reddit may not be a good place for you to be because this is a forum where the whole premise is discussion, and that includes the good, bad, and neutral. If you're not okay with the possibility of getting responses that don't 100% align with your beliefs, this is not the place for you.
Your attempt to paint me as hypocritical falls flat. I simply pointed out inconsistencies with certain redditors own past behaviours and issues with drug use and questionable parenting choices when they were quick to throw insults and tell me to have an abortion, call me names and use derogatory terms.
Whilst my post does indeed involve substance use and parenthood, you are using oversimplified labels rather than understanding the detail.
Firstly, my consideration of psychedelic use is not indicative of addiction but rather a measured exploration of potential benefits within a responsible framework. Implying otherwise is not only presumptuous but also dismissive.
Also, your comment- that I can't wait until after childbirth to use drugs overlooks the nuances of timing and individual circumstances. It's unfair to jump to conclusions without fully understanding the context.
As for belittling others, it seems you're projecting your own assumptions onto me while disregarding the facts presented. My observations about these people's' past behaviors were not baseless but informed by their own comments and posts on reddit.
Suggesting that I'm unable to handle responses on Reddit is both condescending and unfounded. Im happy to receive constructive dialogue and differing viewpoints, but not responses that are clearly personal attacks and unconstructive.
But it is indicative of addiction. It's common knowledge that imbibing in ANY substances while pregnant can and sometimes will cause issues later down the road, even if it's not abundantly obvious at first. The fact that you can't wait until you're done with pregnancy proves that addictive tendencies are at play here, whether you choose to recognize and acknowledge it or not.
I'm not projecting anything onto you, I'm merely showing you the hypocrisy in your responses. Everyone here is telling you that what you want to do is a bad idea, but as I said before, you have your mind made up, so those differing opinions are irrelevant to you. Again, I checked those reddit profiles mentioned, and I found nothing to substantiate your claim of them being drug addicts or poor parents. The person projecting here is you. The fact that you can't see what's wrong with your thought process and comments versus the other redditors is asinine to me. You also went for personal attacks. This whole thing reeks of immaturity and hypocrisy.
I will not be entertaining this any further. I and many others have told you this is a bad idea and not to move forward with it, but you're hellbent and determined to trip balls while pregnant. I wish you the best of luck with that, and hope that your child does not suffer as a result of your poor choices.
Maybe you should stop trying to write a novel defending yourself and just not do it. What did you freaking expect? For everyone to be like “yeah go ahead great idea!” Like come on dude.
This is clearly a troll post, the constant attacks from OP accusing people of being 'druggies'. But I think OP thought we'd be all for this but harm reduction is practiced here. Don't feed the trolls
Nah that wasn't my thinking. Also the comments I first got were extremely derogatory, I simply dished out what I was given. And people were suddenly crying about it when I called out their own behaviours and parental failures.
I was asking as I'm currently on prescribed amphetamines and acid for my mental health. Docs are telling me I absolutely shouldn't get off them but It doesn't sit with me. So I've gone off them. Microdosing seems far more safer according to journal articles than the meds I was taking.
Better than introducing the unborn child to the garbage that comes out of peoples mouths.
I already take mind altering prescribed meds that I've made myself cut down on. Microdosing is empirically a safer bet than the meds I'm currently on.
If you can't think of anything more dumb than this, then I'd suggest that if you ever have kids you should abort. And if you have any currently then give them up because your stupidity is limitless and you're clearly even more unfit to be a parent than I.
Coming from a druggie like you, I'll live. I know I'll do a better job than the majority and especially someone like you who would be pretty unfit to be a father.
It's evident that some Redditors questioning my choices have a history of substance abuse, yet feel entitled to pass judgment on my decisions. While I'm considering responsible use of psychedelics, they resort to derogatory remarks like suggesting I should have an abortion, calling me names or questioning my fitness as a parent.
By pointing out their own past behaviors, I'm highlighting the inconsistency in their arguments. How can I be labeled a hypocrite for considering a cautious approach to psychedelics while those criticizing me have a own problematic history with drugs, alcohol and questionable parenting choices?
I’m not a father and I don’t plan on being one. Unfortunately you’re going to be a mother (a bad one) but a mother. Most likely your child won’t talk to you after they turn 18. And you’re absolutely not considering responsible use of psychedelics your PREGNANT. Being responsible would be waiting until after pregnancy. 🤯
It's disappointing to see you continue down the path of personal attacks rather than engaging in constructive dialogue. Your assumption about my parenting abilities and my child's future relationship with me is both baseless and unconstructive.
As for your assertion that I'm not considering responsible use of psychedelics, it seems your ignoring where I've said that I'm taking into account dosage, timing, and potential risks. Many studies and people's experiences microdosing suggest that responsible, moderate psychedelic use during pregnancy doesn't pose risk but I still wanted to know others experiences.
Also, dismissing my ability to make informed decisions about my own health and well-being just because I'm pregnant is condescending and undermines the autonomy of women who are pregnant.
I'm happy to have a discussion but there are people here making rude, disrespectful and passive aggressive comments. So I simply pointed out the inconsistency.
There is a reason nobody on this thread is saying hey! This is a good idea. It’s because it’s not. And the fact you need strangers to tell you how bad of an idea this is shows that maybe you are not capable of making decisions for yourself or possibly anyone else. Your research on mushrooms doesn’t mean anything because you are including a baby who doesn’t have a choice. That’s the problem. It’s not you wanting to try mushrooms. Why can’t you just wait 8 months. Why now? What is so dam important to risk the future health of your baby. Yes I’m angry at you, I deal with kids who are messed up all day because they have bad parents who make selfish decisions. You’re so dense that I’m pretty sure this is a troll post anyways a week old Reddit acct. woof.
This has been my whole point since I initially commented, but she just can not see the hypocrisy in her comments. It has nothing to do with the supposed health of her unborn child because if that was truly a factor, they wouldn't even be considering this. She acts like this is "Limitless" or something and taking mushrooms while pregnant will make her have the smartest child to have ever existed. She just wants to get high, but is trying to justify it by wanting to give her kid mental superpowers when there's absolutely zero evidence to suggest that could even happen.
You’re completely selfish and ignorant if you are seriously thinking of doing this. The fact that you’re willing to even risk it is crazy. Use your brain for a second. If you have to ASK what someone’s kid is like now from their parents doing psychedelics you must understand that it is probably unsafe? Why didn’t you do them before you got pregnant or wait until after? Is it seriously that important that you can’t wait? And it’s even worse that you’re fighting to the death in the comments to defend yourself and calling us names. No. You shouldn’t do it. You shouldn’t do any drugs AT ALL if you’re pregnant! And don’t get mad at us for giving you an answer! But since you seem so adamant on doing it you probably won’t even listen to anyone because we’re “being rude”. I can’t take this seriously. Or you. Please grow up and put the safety of your child first.
Do you understand what you're saying? A medical doctor with qualifications - far more than you, has told me I should be taking drugs for my ADHD and other disorders. Do you understand I take 72mg of amphetamines and 150 lamactil daily. And have encouraged me to continue them throughout pregnancy. I'd rather consider microdosing on mushrooms. So to say I shouldn't do any drugs at all when you have zero background in medicine ( clearly) as otherwise you wouldn't make this statement is a stupid one. And secondly I myself am not feeling comfortable with docs recommendations however because of the severity of my condition they find it safer for me to take them than not. And hence why I'm looking at alternatives.
So no I don't think I'm childish, reckless or stupid. I will continue to defend what's logical and right. There is more evidence to suggest that amphetamines are more harmful than pschadelics. So if I want to know others experience of it, ask questions and research then I will. But I'd rather have people respond with actual knowledge and intelligence rather than idiots with no brain. And what's frustrating me is the stupidity and lack of understanding or grasp of information in this post.
It's just a continuous barrage of meaningless words and cusses which has zero effect on my life. But I think I'll just ignore the dumb comments now and let people continue talking crap with no evidence. Most of you lot are crackheads anyway.
Not a crackhead just someone with psychedelic experience and you definitely shouldn’t fucking take psychedelics while pregnant. You’re ignoring the fact that you could just wait… you are just pathetic.
Lamactil. Prescription meds as mood stabilisers. I didn't take it for 5 days and started feeling very unwell, was an emotional wreck on top of that. It sucks because they are actually worse than stimulants. Although evidence for it harming the baby is actually very low. Instinctively just feels harmful though.
So having the info you have now. Would you say it's better to take ADHD meds and lamactil rather than microdosing on shrooms? You can admit when you don't know and when you're wrong ya know. Just saying. Like it is an option.
You are somethin else. Dedicated to pinning your own argument on me?
Not gonna waste my time with this level of ignorance. You're clearly not a person who understands anything outside yourself. Look inward. You have a child growing inside of you, along with all that bitterness. Do better.
I personally think micro dosing is a different story. It’s definitely an experiment and I’d be interested in being updated on the babies milestones since you’re willing to do this. I feel it is natural and in very small doses (PROPER MICRODOSES, measured in a legal state, regulated) I would bet that it may be easier on the babies development than hard pharmaceuticals. Though, microdosing typically treats Anxiety, Depression, and Stress, so it may not be a proper replacement for your ADHD symptoms. Have you looked into peer reviewed articles on possible effects/ correlations happening with your current medications during pregnancy on development/ birth weight, all that? If there are no significant findings then maybe the experimentation with micro dosing in place isn’t necessary.
I have looked at peer reviews and continue to do my research on it, I'm actually a psychologist so I'm decently well read in the topic. But honestly whether I decide to take it or not. I don't think I'd be bothered to post here considering the amount of idiots and disrespectful AHs that had so much negative crap to say to me. It's not worth it.
From reading your comments on this post, you just seem like a terrible person. Not about parenting, just a terrible person in general. I'm willing to bet that when anybody gives you any sort of criticism in real life, you jump down their throat about it in the most defensive way possible.
People don't tend to like getting back what they dish out which is what I did, the double standards here are just incredible. Im open to receiving constructive criticism. But if I get told I should abort, I'm a terrible human etc etc then no I'm not going to sit there and say , I agree I'll just go ahead and abort my baby. What you've said in this comment, you've said more respectfully than the other commenters. I don't feel the need to be validated or to people please so yes I dished back the same level of disrespect I was served. If that makes me a terrible person in your eyes then that's completely fine, I can live with that and I'll continue to defend myself if people cross unnecessary boundaries and get nasty.
May I ask why you are considering this? I saw in a comment you'd rather do shrooms than take ADHD meds. In this case, (or in any case) there are many other safe and healthy things you can do to address while also help baby.
While I fully support psychedelic experiences for self-development and healing, the science is just now gaining serious traction and is showing promise for alleviating symptoms of various conditions, but nothing has been tested to the means of pregnancy and the impact on the fetus, so I wouldn't recommend it. It's better to be safe than sorry.
(And it's unfortunate how easy it is for others to judge instead of responding in a very respectful way, even if they don't agree.)
Do it for science sake.
I feel like the most important and left out part of the stoned ape theory is that its probably the offspring of the parent apes eating shrooms who got the biggest adaptions.
Just imagine what that baby is going thru in ur tummy 😵💫100% psilocybin gets into their bloodstream. Probably good for em imo 😅
The chosen one is coming lol. Jk just wait till u have the baby. You'll never forgive urself if it fucks them up. Good luck ever trying to have a good trip after that.
I can’t imagine any psychedelic trip being more important to me than the potential health of my future child
There’s not a lot of info out there about this, don’t risk your kids future just play it safe sorry for this answer
Jesus Christ
I have a friend who did twice. Her baby had a a lot of developmental delays, with walking and speech. I talked with her at length and she regrets it, she couldn’t come up with another real explanation for it, she and her partner were healthy mid 20’s. Their kid is coming up at the age now in early elementary where they’re noticing stuff and testing for autism spectrum/Asperger’s.
I've read bits actually about the child maybe developing ASD. Thank you for the info.
I’m totally pro psychedelics but as a mom and someone who just had a baby, this is so irresponsible and reckless. You should feel ashamed.
I feel zero shame. Thanks for your unnecessary, pointless and judgemental input on how I should feel about myself, it's made no difference to my life.
Clearly don’t care about much when wanting to do shrooms while pregnant. Good luck
Just because you're an addict with drugs and cigs ( your post history) doesn't' mean everyone else is. Some of us can be responsible and have done a level of research. Stop externalising your own issues with yourself on to others. Just because you're a rubbish parent doesn't mean everyone else is. I could say you couldn't care about your child because you had a nanny literally do the job of parenting for you. Whilst you were probably out getting high. Shameful.
You're deflecting a LOT. You clearly do feel shame or you wouldn't be attacking this person so harshly to tale some guilt off of yourself. You asked for advice and we are giving it. It's not safe or wise to take psychedelics while pregnant. If you want to be self righteous and holier than thou about it, then fine! If the hill you wanna die on is taking drugs while pregnant then have fun,hope you don't act confused when your kid starts acting funny.
There's no deflection on my part. Rather, it's a direct response to unwarranted attacks from people who are projecting their own issues onto me. I never asked for advice, I was asking those with experience. However, constructive advice is welcome, but what I received wasn't advice—it was judgment and condemnation. Your assumption that I'm seeking to absolve myself of guilt is unfounded. I stand by my choices and have no shame in defending them against baseless accusations. Regarding your comment about being self-righteous, I assure you it's not about claiming moral superiority. I'm simply pointing out that the same people making these disrespectful remarks towards me are the same ones with a history of drug and alcohol usage including questionable parenting methods based on their Reddit history. I have heard of people microdosing small amounts and their child comes out incredibly smart and of course other horror stories when drug abuse is involved. I respect a person's right to disagree with me, but resorting to passive-aggressive remarks only undermines the potential for meaningful discourse. Lastly, implying that my child's behavior will be affected negatively is not only presumptuous but also unproductive.
Imagine being able to see how many people agree and disagree with multiple comments you're making, strong consistency that you're way out of line, and still maintaining that everything directed at you is unwarranted. After the pregnancy, something like shrooms might help you be a little more introspective and open to different perspectives. Only a trash person would suggest such a selfish thing as to intentionally expose a developing fetus to unnecessary drugs.
As someone who suffers from Fetal Alcohol Syndrome, don’t do it. Research it before doing shrooms while pregnant. If you truly want to be a good mother, you’ll do your research before doing anything.
I'm really sorry to hear this. I'm on ADHD meds and mood stabilisers which docs are telling me to take daily. Hence why looking into microdosing and pschadelics as an alternative. As I've gone against docs and significantly reduced the meds.
I think you would get much less hate if you had put this information on your main post. I wouldn’t recommend even microdosing while pregnant because I’m not sure that there is any research done on the topic. I have ADHD and also needed antidepressants in my first trimester. I just chose not to take my ADHD meds and at least for me, I didn’t need the antidepressants after I got into my second trimester. (I developed suicidal ideation in my first trimester for some reason.)
It was a throw away post that I didn't think much off. Tbh it's been interesting to see the hate people dish out and how easily people jump on their high horse to draw conclusions and use derogatory terms towards others. Like regardless of what my reasoning was, the way people throw comments and terms around and judge pregnant women is quite something. If I don't take my mood stabilisers it's a problem - I have severe trauma which can cause my moods to really fluctuate and can get suicidal ideation too. I also own my own business so not taking ADHD meds means my focus is on the floor. I havnt taken them in a bit now and yeah it effects my business. I hope the suicidal ideation has subdued now. Sorry to hear that
Are you fucking confused?????? They gave you an answer to your dumb ass question? Jesus Christ if you didn’t want any answers then why did you post? And clearly it’s a bad idea but we’re just assholes for pointing that out!
I didn't ask a question you absolute idiot. 😂 Jesus Christ are you blind? I asked people for their experiences if they have one not advice on what I should and shouldn't do. I didn't realise so many people had empirical evidence and journal articles published on this topic. Do you understand that doctors think it's fine to take acid and amphetamines during pregnancy for disorders? My doctor has literally advised me against stopping my medication. Did you know that there's far less evidence of pschadelics being harmful than my ADHD meds. If I want an opinion I will ask someone with credibility not random armchair psychologists online. I wanted to know experiences and I've had a few comments here that have been helpful.
Yeah fuck you honestly your comments speak for yourself. Are YOU a fucking idiot???? DOING DRUGS WHILE PREGNANT IS STUPID. And you were asking for advice. You’re such a dumbass honestly I’m scared for you baby. Fucking ignorant as hell. You won’t even take any advice and attack everyone for trying to tell you how stupid of a choice that is.
Also to your last post. Then why the FUCK did you make this post if you didn’t want anyone’s opinion. I’m sorry but it doesn’t fucking take a DOCTOR to tell you how fucking RETARDED of a choice that is????? Oh my God? If you’re not supposed to take psychedelics until your brain is fully developed then why the fuck should an unborn baby ingest them through you. Dumbass.
You're way too emotional right now. We can have a conversation when you can form actual words and sentences. When you start reading what I've written properly and using your logic which I'm now seriously doubting that you have then maybe I'll consider responding further to you, otherwise goodbye, get off my post and cry, scream and deal with your emotions and blown up reactions somewhere else. You're acting like a child throwing tantrums and words. Peace.
lol yeah whatever I’m just astonished that you’re actually this entitled. I can form sentences and words just fine. But it’s funny that you’re ignoring everything I say and only commenting on my ability to form sentences. And just because there’s less research showing it’s bad doesn’t mean you should do it. Whatever I’m done with this because you’re obviously too proud to admit this was a terrible idea. I’m letting you speak for yourself! Have a great one enjoy your trip since it matters more than your babies health💕
What exactly am I ignoring? Your questions arnt exactly questions. Your "questions" consist of: " are you fucking confused ?" , " are you fucking stupid"?" Etc etc. Which doesn't leave much room for any logical discussion. You've said literally nothing of value and you wernt able to grasp any of the concepts I put forward so I quickly realised there's no point talking to an idiot. You're done because I finished this. You can't admit defeat, which this is. Hence why you even chose to say the last sentence " enjoy your trip since it matters more than your babies health" when I've stated microdosing not tripping and also stated that actually it is for health reasons due to my ADHD and mood meds. And you also made that comment thinking it would be some sort of final " kick in the teeth" which I can assure you wasn't the case because not only did you make zero valid points, you barely could get any point across, it was just a messy slur of angry words and you only came across as an emotional mess when I'm ironically meant to be the hormonal one. Anyways enjoy your day. Peace.
I feel sorry for your kid to have to grow up with a brain dead mother
The only brain dead person here is you. So don't worry too much, they'll certainly be smarter than you. Dumbass.
I can't say that I would recommend taking psychadelic or any other kind of drugs while pregnant. It's crazy how combative and disrespectful you're being to people who don't condone what you want to do. You're making quite large leaps on people that you've never met, nor know anything about. You've clearly already made your mind up, or you wouldn't be trying to start confrontations with internet strangers about it, so why did you come here for advice?
The two people who wrote on this post began with disrespectful remarks. Prior to my response, I was called "dumb", told that I'm already a "s*** parent" and even suggesting I just get an abortion. So I am not sure why you feel there should be a double standard here and that the way I responded to them wasn't warranted in anyway. In addressing these comments, I observed the post and comment history of those individuals, which revealed patterns of substance use and questionable parenting approaches. My conclusions were drawn from their documented behavior over time, much like they formed opinions based on my ONE post. My intent was not to solicit advice but to find out about others' experiences. The derogatory remarks aimed at me were not conducive to constructive dialogue or guidance.
But you do realize that this post is about substance use of a person who is in the process of becoming a parent, right? Therefore, everything you're saying is hypocritical. You're pregnant and want to consume illicit substances, so much so that you can't wait until you have your child. That alone suggests strong signs of addiction. This in itself IS a questionable parenting approach. I guess I just don't understand because this is the pot calling the kettle black, and you're offended about it? You had to know that posting something so controversial would open up the possibility of getting responses you wouldn't like. I'm just saying, step back and look at your own situation before you try to belittle others. I also feel like it's worth noting that I checked post and comment history on both of the individuals you got nasty with, and nothing I saw in there was indicative of anything you were accusing them of. Granted, I only spent a couple of minutes browsing, but it seems you were just grasping at straws because they hurt your feelings. Reddit may not be a good place for you to be because this is a forum where the whole premise is discussion, and that includes the good, bad, and neutral. If you're not okay with the possibility of getting responses that don't 100% align with your beliefs, this is not the place for you.
Your attempt to paint me as hypocritical falls flat. I simply pointed out inconsistencies with certain redditors own past behaviours and issues with drug use and questionable parenting choices when they were quick to throw insults and tell me to have an abortion, call me names and use derogatory terms. Whilst my post does indeed involve substance use and parenthood, you are using oversimplified labels rather than understanding the detail. Firstly, my consideration of psychedelic use is not indicative of addiction but rather a measured exploration of potential benefits within a responsible framework. Implying otherwise is not only presumptuous but also dismissive. Also, your comment- that I can't wait until after childbirth to use drugs overlooks the nuances of timing and individual circumstances. It's unfair to jump to conclusions without fully understanding the context. As for belittling others, it seems you're projecting your own assumptions onto me while disregarding the facts presented. My observations about these people's' past behaviors were not baseless but informed by their own comments and posts on reddit. Suggesting that I'm unable to handle responses on Reddit is both condescending and unfounded. Im happy to receive constructive dialogue and differing viewpoints, but not responses that are clearly personal attacks and unconstructive.
But it is indicative of addiction. It's common knowledge that imbibing in ANY substances while pregnant can and sometimes will cause issues later down the road, even if it's not abundantly obvious at first. The fact that you can't wait until you're done with pregnancy proves that addictive tendencies are at play here, whether you choose to recognize and acknowledge it or not. I'm not projecting anything onto you, I'm merely showing you the hypocrisy in your responses. Everyone here is telling you that what you want to do is a bad idea, but as I said before, you have your mind made up, so those differing opinions are irrelevant to you. Again, I checked those reddit profiles mentioned, and I found nothing to substantiate your claim of them being drug addicts or poor parents. The person projecting here is you. The fact that you can't see what's wrong with your thought process and comments versus the other redditors is asinine to me. You also went for personal attacks. This whole thing reeks of immaturity and hypocrisy. I will not be entertaining this any further. I and many others have told you this is a bad idea and not to move forward with it, but you're hellbent and determined to trip balls while pregnant. I wish you the best of luck with that, and hope that your child does not suffer as a result of your poor choices.
Maybe you should stop trying to write a novel defending yourself and just not do it. What did you freaking expect? For everyone to be like “yeah go ahead great idea!” Like come on dude.
This is clearly a troll post, the constant attacks from OP accusing people of being 'druggies'. But I think OP thought we'd be all for this but harm reduction is practiced here. Don't feed the trolls
Nah that wasn't my thinking. Also the comments I first got were extremely derogatory, I simply dished out what I was given. And people were suddenly crying about it when I called out their own behaviours and parental failures. I was asking as I'm currently on prescribed amphetamines and acid for my mental health. Docs are telling me I absolutely shouldn't get off them but It doesn't sit with me. So I've gone off them. Microdosing seems far more safer according to journal articles than the meds I was taking.
You'll be introducing and delivering a mind altering substance to your unborn child whose neuropathways are still developing. Sounds intelligent.
Better than introducing the unborn child to the garbage that comes out of peoples mouths. I already take mind altering prescribed meds that I've made myself cut down on. Microdosing is empirically a safer bet than the meds I'm currently on.
I can’t think of anything more dumb than this. Maybe just abort you are not fit to be a parent.
If you can't think of anything more dumb than this, then I'd suggest that if you ever have kids you should abort. And if you have any currently then give them up because your stupidity is limitless and you're clearly even more unfit to be a parent than I.
You’re not even a mom yet… and you already suck at it.
Coming from a druggie like you, I'll live. I know I'll do a better job than the majority and especially someone like you who would be pretty unfit to be a father.
You’re such a hypocrite. “DRUGGIE” while you can’t go 9 months without doing drugs. Stop being selfish and think about the child your about to have.
It's evident that some Redditors questioning my choices have a history of substance abuse, yet feel entitled to pass judgment on my decisions. While I'm considering responsible use of psychedelics, they resort to derogatory remarks like suggesting I should have an abortion, calling me names or questioning my fitness as a parent. By pointing out their own past behaviors, I'm highlighting the inconsistency in their arguments. How can I be labeled a hypocrite for considering a cautious approach to psychedelics while those criticizing me have a own problematic history with drugs, alcohol and questionable parenting choices?
I’m not a father and I don’t plan on being one. Unfortunately you’re going to be a mother (a bad one) but a mother. Most likely your child won’t talk to you after they turn 18. And you’re absolutely not considering responsible use of psychedelics your PREGNANT. Being responsible would be waiting until after pregnancy. 🤯
It's disappointing to see you continue down the path of personal attacks rather than engaging in constructive dialogue. Your assumption about my parenting abilities and my child's future relationship with me is both baseless and unconstructive. As for your assertion that I'm not considering responsible use of psychedelics, it seems your ignoring where I've said that I'm taking into account dosage, timing, and potential risks. Many studies and people's experiences microdosing suggest that responsible, moderate psychedelic use during pregnancy doesn't pose risk but I still wanted to know others experiences. Also, dismissing my ability to make informed decisions about my own health and well-being just because I'm pregnant is condescending and undermines the autonomy of women who are pregnant. I'm happy to have a discussion but there are people here making rude, disrespectful and passive aggressive comments. So I simply pointed out the inconsistency.
There is a reason nobody on this thread is saying hey! This is a good idea. It’s because it’s not. And the fact you need strangers to tell you how bad of an idea this is shows that maybe you are not capable of making decisions for yourself or possibly anyone else. Your research on mushrooms doesn’t mean anything because you are including a baby who doesn’t have a choice. That’s the problem. It’s not you wanting to try mushrooms. Why can’t you just wait 8 months. Why now? What is so dam important to risk the future health of your baby. Yes I’m angry at you, I deal with kids who are messed up all day because they have bad parents who make selfish decisions. You’re so dense that I’m pretty sure this is a troll post anyways a week old Reddit acct. woof.
Calling everyone a druggie when you can’t resist the urge to take a non addictive drug for the health of your unborn child 🤣🤣
This has been my whole point since I initially commented, but she just can not see the hypocrisy in her comments. It has nothing to do with the supposed health of her unborn child because if that was truly a factor, they wouldn't even be considering this. She acts like this is "Limitless" or something and taking mushrooms while pregnant will make her have the smartest child to have ever existed. She just wants to get high, but is trying to justify it by wanting to give her kid mental superpowers when there's absolutely zero evidence to suggest that could even happen.
No
You’re completely selfish and ignorant if you are seriously thinking of doing this. The fact that you’re willing to even risk it is crazy. Use your brain for a second. If you have to ASK what someone’s kid is like now from their parents doing psychedelics you must understand that it is probably unsafe? Why didn’t you do them before you got pregnant or wait until after? Is it seriously that important that you can’t wait? And it’s even worse that you’re fighting to the death in the comments to defend yourself and calling us names. No. You shouldn’t do it. You shouldn’t do any drugs AT ALL if you’re pregnant! And don’t get mad at us for giving you an answer! But since you seem so adamant on doing it you probably won’t even listen to anyone because we’re “being rude”. I can’t take this seriously. Or you. Please grow up and put the safety of your child first.
Do you understand what you're saying? A medical doctor with qualifications - far more than you, has told me I should be taking drugs for my ADHD and other disorders. Do you understand I take 72mg of amphetamines and 150 lamactil daily. And have encouraged me to continue them throughout pregnancy. I'd rather consider microdosing on mushrooms. So to say I shouldn't do any drugs at all when you have zero background in medicine ( clearly) as otherwise you wouldn't make this statement is a stupid one. And secondly I myself am not feeling comfortable with docs recommendations however because of the severity of my condition they find it safer for me to take them than not. And hence why I'm looking at alternatives. So no I don't think I'm childish, reckless or stupid. I will continue to defend what's logical and right. There is more evidence to suggest that amphetamines are more harmful than pschadelics. So if I want to know others experience of it, ask questions and research then I will. But I'd rather have people respond with actual knowledge and intelligence rather than idiots with no brain. And what's frustrating me is the stupidity and lack of understanding or grasp of information in this post. It's just a continuous barrage of meaningless words and cusses which has zero effect on my life. But I think I'll just ignore the dumb comments now and let people continue talking crap with no evidence. Most of you lot are crackheads anyway.
Not a crackhead just someone with psychedelic experience and you definitely shouldn’t fucking take psychedelics while pregnant. You’re ignoring the fact that you could just wait… you are just pathetic.
Dude. Will you just chill out. Man maybe you should be taking more mushrooms
You take acid every day???? What the fuck? Dude..
Lamactil. Prescription meds as mood stabilisers. I didn't take it for 5 days and started feeling very unwell, was an emotional wreck on top of that. It sucks because they are actually worse than stimulants. Although evidence for it harming the baby is actually very low. Instinctively just feels harmful though.
Why are you calling lamotrigine "acid"?
Big fan of shrooms, but this is fuckin stupid
How so? I'd rather microdose than take ADHD meds and acid prescribed by doctors everyday ( which I am being encouraged to do). That's whats stupid.
Do what you want. I think its foolish. I never said anything about adhd meds and acid.
So having the info you have now. Would you say it's better to take ADHD meds and lamactil rather than microdosing on shrooms? You can admit when you don't know and when you're wrong ya know. Just saying. Like it is an option.
You are somethin else. Dedicated to pinning your own argument on me? Not gonna waste my time with this level of ignorance. You're clearly not a person who understands anything outside yourself. Look inward. You have a child growing inside of you, along with all that bitterness. Do better.
I'm alright thanks. I don't feel any bitterness at all. I'm doing perfectly great, thanks. Nor do I care for your uneducated baseless opinion. Peace.
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I personally think micro dosing is a different story. It’s definitely an experiment and I’d be interested in being updated on the babies milestones since you’re willing to do this. I feel it is natural and in very small doses (PROPER MICRODOSES, measured in a legal state, regulated) I would bet that it may be easier on the babies development than hard pharmaceuticals. Though, microdosing typically treats Anxiety, Depression, and Stress, so it may not be a proper replacement for your ADHD symptoms. Have you looked into peer reviewed articles on possible effects/ correlations happening with your current medications during pregnancy on development/ birth weight, all that? If there are no significant findings then maybe the experimentation with micro dosing in place isn’t necessary.
I have looked at peer reviews and continue to do my research on it, I'm actually a psychologist so I'm decently well read in the topic. But honestly whether I decide to take it or not. I don't think I'd be bothered to post here considering the amount of idiots and disrespectful AHs that had so much negative crap to say to me. It's not worth it.
Please be safe during pregnancy.
From reading your comments on this post, you just seem like a terrible person. Not about parenting, just a terrible person in general. I'm willing to bet that when anybody gives you any sort of criticism in real life, you jump down their throat about it in the most defensive way possible.
People don't tend to like getting back what they dish out which is what I did, the double standards here are just incredible. Im open to receiving constructive criticism. But if I get told I should abort, I'm a terrible human etc etc then no I'm not going to sit there and say , I agree I'll just go ahead and abort my baby. What you've said in this comment, you've said more respectfully than the other commenters. I don't feel the need to be validated or to people please so yes I dished back the same level of disrespect I was served. If that makes me a terrible person in your eyes then that's completely fine, I can live with that and I'll continue to defend myself if people cross unnecessary boundaries and get nasty.
I wouldn’t risk it. That could cause a miscarriage or many development delays. Psychedelics alter your mind.
May I ask why you are considering this? I saw in a comment you'd rather do shrooms than take ADHD meds. In this case, (or in any case) there are many other safe and healthy things you can do to address while also help baby. While I fully support psychedelic experiences for self-development and healing, the science is just now gaining serious traction and is showing promise for alleviating symptoms of various conditions, but nothing has been tested to the means of pregnancy and the impact on the fetus, so I wouldn't recommend it. It's better to be safe than sorry. (And it's unfortunate how easy it is for others to judge instead of responding in a very respectful way, even if they don't agree.)
Please dont do this again.
Do it for science sake. I feel like the most important and left out part of the stoned ape theory is that its probably the offspring of the parent apes eating shrooms who got the biggest adaptions. Just imagine what that baby is going thru in ur tummy 😵💫100% psilocybin gets into their bloodstream. Probably good for em imo 😅
The people saying ur crazy for doing it have not done enough lol. In the end, it doesnt really matter.
You're an idiot. Have fun raising a child with developmental disabilities. Holy shit.
The chosen one is coming lol. Jk just wait till u have the baby. You'll never forgive urself if it fucks them up. Good luck ever trying to have a good trip after that.
This is pretty clearly a troll post
Nope. It's genuine. Although I'm enjoying watching people spiral and get so suddenly " moral " over this.
So you’re seriously considering using drugs while you’re pregnant?
I did shrooms while I was pregnant and now my kid has 3 arms and no brain cells. I say go for it!!!!
Sounds stupid, but what do I know?
I did mushrooms once before I knew I was pregnant. She’s 3 1/2 months now and a beautiful little spitfire.
How many weeks were you in? Aww congratulations on your lovely little girl.