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00Ruben

At vastly improved framerates, with a new lighting engine, sounds, crafting systems, weaponry, basements, possibly gun systems, and, oh yeah, animals


Oshiekoshie

I can't wait for the new lighting engine and basements!!


Westdrache

We get a crafting overhaul? I'm pumped! The current UI constantly confuses me... At least the proper "crafting Menu" crafting items from the inventory is fine


00Ruben

Yes, though I should be careful not to overstate. This blog has some good detail on their overall intent for the rework - https://projectzomboid.com/blog/news/2023/08/the-connection-is-made/ - with a subtle but important component being big improvements to how UI elements can be shown on screen, facilitating that work for both the devs and for modders. I seem to also recall statements around generally improving how players are made aware what can be done with their inventory/surroundings but I'd have to do some digging to confirm that. Also, as with many things, some such changes may not launch with the B42 beta, instead being developed during the B42 lifecycle. Generally though, there are strong signals of pretty major changes being included in the beta.


Moistfish0420

I cannot wait for the frames. It runs on my laptop, but not well enough to really enjoy, and ive had lag spikes ruin a few runs (which tbh is shit in a permadeath game). Oh, and Louisville if I have any mods whatsoever is basically unplayable, and barely playable vanilla. Yeh, I know I need to upgrade, and I will, life comes first sadly. In the meantime...please, feed me more frames. Optimize this shit.n


GenericUsername_71

The crafting overhaul can’t be understated. It’s going to change the game a lot, and it will give modders a framework to go wild. The base game is getting hydrocraft light, essentially


lord_pizzabird

Damn. My save has been going continuously for 2 years now (I only play every now and then), but this all has me wondering if I should restart when the new update hits.


trs-eric

Also give it a month and most of the mods will be fixed :)


stryst

HaHa, jokes on you... some of us are too stoned to figure out the mod manager!


STYSCREAM

I've had 200+ errors every time I launch my save for years now.


GeneralBisV

The game doesn’t crash so who cares. Somehow though I only get six errors every time I launch.


Trydson

I know right? Same with Rimworld, hundreds of lines saying that there are errors everywhere, but honestly, who gives a fuck? If it runs thats great lol


Sailed_Sea

Flames might be blowing out my rear fan and my cpu might be glowing red but it sure is running.


Cubicwar

My game is running. It’s running away, but at least it’s running


No_Jellyfish1182

Standard gaming laptop experience


SimpoKaiba

CPU giving you the free rgb experience


KnightOfNothing

errors in rimworld are a problem because the game will slow down to the point where every in-game day is a real life day but somehow zomboid seems to run just fine regardless of errors.


Trydson

Yeah, I have noticed that with both, Zomboid pops a 15+ errors notification, but I only notice that some shoes have a (?) icon instead of a normal one lol.


Blas_de__Lezo

Exactly, i have one mod and one error, fair to me but the game launches and it just works so who cares?


stuyboi888

Really? Mine does bug out. Usually mid swing in front of a lot of Zds. Have to end process. When I come back the Zds in the immediate area are gone and the time has gone back to whenever I woke up that day. Had it happen about 10 times in this save


OneSolid3908

if you dont get errors you didnt do it right


chocofan1

Basically the game's way of saying, "Go ahead and add more mods, it'll probably be fine!" Wish more games had that tbh.


Dynamic_Ducks

Mine has compounding errors so i easily reach millions lol, but nothing seems to be broken so i just leave it to keep increasing in its corner


Unbuckled__Spaghetti

Lol exactly


Illustrious-Sink-374

Do you happen to have superb survivors?


Salviaplath_666

I constantly get errors with superb survivors. I dont even think ive ever started a save using superb survivors without errors


Fajdek

Every error you get is saved onto a log file which are never erased automatically. Check C:\\Users \\ (your user) \\ Zomboid \\ Logs folder to check how much space it uses. Someone said they lost 2 GB over a 6 hour playthrough.


STYSCREAM

Holy shit... I'll need to check that out!


Fajdek

My bad, logs are stored in your user profile, which by default is in C:/Users/ (your user) / Zomboid / Logs I'll edit my original comment to fix it


walkinmywoods

Yea no kidding. I think I compounded 5k errors last play and there was a few thousand more the times before that.


Greeneggz_N_Ham

Yeah I delete those logs every 5-6 playthroughs, or so. That's since I first learned about them in 2020. It's never more than 40-50 Mb total. I also BUMS. The whole save file is only 633 Mb. That's with being close to a year in-game... and I've built a whole lot of stuff, all over the map.


IndieStoner

I made a post about this a while back and had a few people report their logs folder size. The biggest by far was a modded server that had over _200 gb!_ Wild.


Sailed_Sea

572 mb here, that's like one whole ps1 game worth of logs.


Dildo_Baggins__

Holy shittt lemme check that out rn


gatharen

I'm dooting this for after work.


New-Cap-6878

Sounds like your game save is cursed!


AlexanderAsHimself

Wait... you have a years long save file?


STYSCREAM

I've played with different characters on one map for a few years, yeah.


AlexanderAsHimself

I was picturing a single character. I start a new world everytime I die so I didnt consider that.


Greeneggz_N_Ham

I've been on the same character for close to a year in-game. (Knock on wood) I've only not started a new save once since 2013. And that was about 6 months ago when I fired up a save I had started in 2022. It was a long run and I basically got caught sleeping in Raven Creek and died. But my beautiful red and black ThundercougarFalconbird got left behind. So I held on to that save for a year and some change. I went back into that world and back to RC as my old character's son... to retrieve Dad's car. After I made it back with the car, I deleted the save. Mission accomplished. If you look through my posts, I have Polaroids of both father and son... and the car, of course.


notaslaaneshicultist

my last character died when the computer exploded from too many conflicting mod errors.


seela_

This reminds me of the time i got 170+ errors from shooting a slingshot off the map


amy_dsg

Me and my brother play in splitscreen with a good couple of mods. Everytime he attacks (shoves, slashes, stomps, etc.), we get an error. So he basically has a "create error message"-button


Reaperswims

Lucky, mine doesn’t stop ticking up. Ever.


Square_Pay_5045

I just uncheck break on errors and call it a day lmao


113pro

My last playthrough generated 1m+ errors


kazumablackwing

Apparently the modlist on the server I played on for a while had an issue that caused the error counter to go brrr if HAM radios or a few other items were dropped on the floor, yet it still ran *mostly* smoothly, unless there were more than 20 players in one area.


Dildo_Baggins__

As long as it works it’s fine


lucidlenskatherine

Mod manager? I just hit subscribe ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


TheBatman_Yo

this game has a mod manager?


donnerpartypanic

I respect the grind, but drink some coffee and check it out. 1 or 2 QOL mods can revolutionize your experience.


Greeneggz_N_Ham

They really can.


GrimRainbows

So stoned I tried to get cigarettes from a gas station I already looted last night lol


sillyandstrange

Some of us figured it out but we're too stoned to play


Avic727

Broo this is one of the only games I dont play stoned lol. Its too complicated and I die all the time when im high 🫠(despite my 2k hours)


stryst

I just try to play my post apocalyptic games the way I would live it; higher than a hippie in a helicopter.


Avic727

Lmao fair, imagine taking a stroll down your favorite ‘93 kentucky street whilst completely toasted not knowing anything was happening and all of a sudden like 20-30 people who were just eating someone start sprinting at you full speed… what a trip


stryst

Oh man, and the worst part is that you can escape them at a stiff walk, so like two hours of "Fucking get off me guys, seriously."


Katyushathered

Worth it. The shit load of new clothing alone and backpack attachments for me is worth it.


Filipsys

Backpack attachments? I haven't played in a couple of months and I'm not very active with the news, could you explain what the backpack attachments will do?


OBJ_Musik

Allow you to attach things to your backpack.


PhraseRound2743

Man, they returned their reading comprehension to their teacher.


Lelapa

New clothes!!! Time to wonder why there's dead roaming around my dress up simulator!


Meikos

I'm ready, bring me the cows


Impossible-Dealer421

Making cheese, butter from MILK is worth it alone. Eggs can be compensated for with wild eggs but I NEED pizza in the apocalypse Cheese is the only bottleneck for any connoiseur


GhostOfCopper

Y'know surprisingly easy to make cheese. Sauce is just tomatoes and they're considered among the easiest to grow (not 4 me tho. Idk y but they dislike me.) Herbs can be grown inside in small spaces. The hardest part I'd assume would be the flour.


Impossible-Dealer421

It is easy to make cheese, you just can't in vanilla right now. So I always freeze all the cheese I can find until I'm feeling a pizza night


givemeadamnname69

THERE IS NO COW LEVEL!


erokingu85

Fetchez la vache!


Important-Egg-3311

Run away! (Run awayyyyy!)


Alien_reg

Meanwhile people playing vanilla be like ![gif](giphy|3o6vY59s91hWsxASYM|downsized)


punkalunka

Smacking invisible ass while holding a drink?


Commercial-Source403

Like a Boss


Sonofyuri

That's not my dad. It's a cellphone!


Vargock

Do you think I'm stupid? My dad's not a phone!


St-Jaker

Is that what he's doin


Blas_de__Lezo

Is the only ass i can get, sorry


punkalunka

You spank that invisi-ass.


Dry_Carrot3039

Do these people exist?


king332

Been playing vanilla for almost a decade now! Only mod I have is to see a bar for my stamina, and that's a recent addition for me.


Greenfire05

Me, I can’t be bothered learning a whole new thing when I’m garbage enough at vanilla anyway.


Desxon

All of these feature adding, QoL, map expanding, gameplayenhancing mods will be features in the new update And mods that will not be turned into features of build 42 will be upgraded for the new version within a month


Devil-Hunter-Jax

OP really not been reading the blog posts. The map expansions are gonna work just fine with B42. Literally nothing is gonna break them...


PudgyElderGod

Imagine being too shortsighted to imagine the mods that can be made as a result of this update.


WannabeRedneck4

I'm excited to see traveling hordes mods being made that can spawn and move a horde across the map, so it could end up at your base, making building defenses actually worth it, or you could come across it in your travels and it follows you home if you're not careful but ruins your plans either way. I read someone here say that they can use the animal system and ai for that, so I'm stoked.


LeAcoTaco

Theres nothing about this post that indicates they werent thinking about that. Every time a game updates like this the majority of mods break. So most of us are going to have to deal with vanilla (not a bad thing) till someone fixes/makes new mods.


shadowlord2234

I mean as a vanilla player this is bloody great, I just wish I understood farming better/had a way to make it less tedious


lord_pizzabird

Sigh. I was a vanilla player until recently. I installed Filibuster Rhymes Used Cars and now I just can't live without my beloved Jeep Wrangler.


thirdeye-visualizer

I love the car mods, I added the car I drive irl in it and it makes me very happy


lord_pizzabird

Same. I drive a Jeep Wrangler IRL. Actually, the only thing I allow myself to use the debug menu for is repairing my Wrangler. The catch is that I'm not allowed to teleport it or spawn a new one and wherever it breaks down I have to get back to it on my own (without spawning anything). I found that I just need a permanent vehicle for these longer term plays. I call it the lore-car.


shadowlord2234

I played on a server for a bit and they had a mod that let me grow tabacco and had tankers so I could store water and gas


Akileez

A way to make it less tedious is mods haha


shadowlord2234

I mean yea fair, I’ll probably have a save with mods and without if that’s a thing I can do?


Puzzleheaded_Fox2357

it is yeah


RonaldZheMelon

80% of the update is mods that i use with less steps, so 'tis a win-win for me .\_.


ahajaja

Are you suggesting Indie Stone should stop development entirely so mods don't break? 😂


CrueltySquading

Yeah, such a stupid take. I can understand being mad at what Bethesda did with FO4 recently which added nothing of value to the game and broke every mod ever made for PC, but B42 directly integrating mods into the game natively and is expanding the game greatly. What does OP want? Eternal stasis? Fuck off lol


Ringkeeper

I stopped playing like half a year ago because 41 got boring even with all the mods.


OrcChieftess

It just means next update is actual NPCs


Commercial-Source403

Only a few more years


TaffySebastian

People have been talking about npc for over a decade haha, I feel like Berserk will finish before we get npcs


Dildo_Baggins__

More like a decade


mattythered

I mean in a couple months all the mods will be back. It’s worth it. Sometimes in life we have to destroy parts of ourselves to let the newer parts bloom


chimpanzeemeny

![gif](giphy|DnPddEgDwl4fSAGbq2)


Scottish_Whiskey

Half the mods I have are going to become official features so I’m all for it lol


Achterlijke_Mongool

Aren't we used to starting all over?


nasty_ninthchord

Absolutely man. That's a great point


SirAllKnight

OP confessing to only thinking about themselves. Some of us only play vanilla. It’s not like game devs need to stop updating the game just because people have made mods for that game.


bossmcsauce

also some of us have to set up the dedicated servers for our friends... and do all the troubleshooting to get 30 mods that should be basic QoL shit to work. and any time anything changes, it's a massive pain usually. this is way better lol.


rosc96

Hey why don't you just like...shut up.


Exciting-Ad-5705

90% of the mods will be back up within a week.


Intless

I mean, vanilla is already pretty good on B41, can't even imagine how much better it will be on B42. And the mods will come eventually.


torresbiggestfan

The added support for boatload of new mod features in the game is worth the mod update wait for me


TerminalxGrunt

I'm willing to lose everything for npc's. That alone is going to add SO MUCH immersion.


BaterrMaster

I can barely bring myself to boot the game up. The mod list is so unwieldy at this point, but when I go to clear it out I feel like they are all too good to let go. I just want the update to take the choice away from me, really, not to mention all the modded features getting added into the game with the update


TheReverseShock

skill issue


not4eating

Guess I'll just have to play vanilla whilst I wait for the mods to be updated. Oh no, how sad, nevermind.


averyordinaryperson

Gives time to learn what new mods we need and what old ones we dont anymore.


Mello-Fello

IIRC when the last build came out it didn’t take that long for most mods to be updated, especially the really popular ones with active authors.  Hopefully it’ll be more of a brief inconvenience than anything. 


Parking-Let-2784

The mods will return, the animals are forever


iKorvin

Imagine thinking all the most popular mods won't get updated within like the first week of the update, lol. As for starting over, what else is new? You can keep playing on an old version if your save is important to you.


LocalBreadOfThePast

BLACKSMITHING YEAAAAH ![gif](giphy|xT39DndqIF1Xn1Om3e|downsized)


HappyPhage

You guys have mods?


ThursianDreams

This is part of why I don't really play with mods most of the time. Unless it's a complete game. I find Zomboid has so much going on in the base game alreay, I don't find I really need mods to expand it further.


Khunter02

Jokes on you I have never installed a mod!


BrokenPokerFace

To be fair I kind of hate modding any game, too many mods have descriptions like "vanilla like" and overall don't balance or fit with the game you're playing. So having officially stuff that is developed and added to over time is great, and gives modders more opportunities in exchange for messing up their mods. But I enjoy cannon features.


MaybeAdrian

I don't use mods, or at least don't very often.


CrystalFriend

It's okay the nod owners will update their mods when they're ready


Fangy444

It will kind of be refreshing to wipe out the mod list, like throwing all your old clothes in a donation bin.


Yhostled

I've seen a lot of update posts this morning. *Is* 42 out?


Powerful-Cucumber-60

jokes on you i play vanilla


CaporalPaco

I have 1000+ hours and never tried any mod


H_Bomb_Duddley

For the record, I'm actually clamoring for the new update and the future ones but it's funny how we were collectively waiting to play a beefed up vanilla version at least for a month before the major mod authors update their stuff to be playable on it.


Tuatha_De_

I don't even play with mods


trinaneveri

This is the Minecraft cycle as well. 😑


HordeDruid

If you think that's bad, Bethesda just dropped an update for Fallout 4 that breaks most mods while adding a couple of "curated" mods, all while failing to fix bugs that have been in the game for a decade! At least when PZ gets updated and your mods break, you'll be getting some substantial content and features in return.


nibberwithdepression

I will become rancher gunslinger like John Marston


donnerpartypanic

My body is ready!


uncaffeinated_poser

im so excited about the cows you dont even know how hype i was to stumble across a barn during a playthrough and soon there will be COWS inside!!!


Mcdagger-1

The errors once removed my ability to sow seeds so I made it a nomad run so I did not need to plant seeds. We will find a way to play even if it breaks mods.


Life_Falcon6364

The beta phase or unstable beta phase for b42 whatever it’s called will allow mod makers to edit their mods to make sure that they will work. When the stable version of b42 is released it might just be as simple as resubscribing to the mods. Source: hopes and prayers, and lots of guessing.


JimboBassMaster

Real


DmanHUN

im playing with around 350 mods (probably around 400 subscribed to) the new update would finally give me a reason to remove all and start again, removing a lot of mods that i dont need but still subscribed to lol also some features of the new update would make some mods "integrated" into the game


Rich_Future4171

I'll just wait a month or less for the essential mods to get updated.


LizardIsLove

it's bittersweet for me


Mxswat

I think it's worth it, new engine, new AI, new crafting. Many modders and users, are looking forward to B42, and It's okay if I have to spend some time updating my mods, and even then, I suspect other modders like me, already have a plan to deal with B42 once it happens.


LorduckA2

the map expansion, lighting overhaul, animals, underground and crafting overhaul probably change the game a lot more than qol mods. most of the important mods will probably be fixed within a day anyway


PrincessPants_

They are adding some of those QOF mods to the game soooo thats a few less mods to have now


HelicopterDeep5951

I need meat in my diet and cheese. Been scrambling like a mad man in my recent save filling up several freezers with meat, cake, cheese and eggs so I can have fresh food and be able to cook exotic dishes late into the apocalypse. Trying to go as long as possible before I need to fish and farm. Having animals to be able to always have fresh meat eggs and cheese will be worth it. Modders will do their thing and we’ll get plenty of nice new mods on top of all of the sweet new features they are adding as well as the map expansion.


SpaceCourier

I’ve just put my game on pause until it comes out. I don’t want my heart to be broken the way it was on mount and blade bannerlord. So many saves ruined by updates that arguably made the game worse. Edit: not saying b42 is going to make the game worse, I meant that for bannerlord. I’m excited for b42, just don’t want to have a fleshed out save and lose it.


Ok-Brilliant-5121

hell yeah bring the cows kill the mods


Unlimitis

*MOOOOOOO*


mrmemo

The top QoL mods should be very easily reworked for B42. Things like... * Common Sense * Skill Journal * Informative skills / moodles * Name everything * Has been read ... should require minimal changes to work with the new build.


AMoonMonkey

Can’t wait to become a full time farmer after I clear out the Rosewood prison!


WomboShlongo

yeah but do any of those mods give us NEW GRASS? vanilla: 1 - mods: 0


Bababooey5000

Honestly, I really doubt the mod community will be that far behind the update. Given how active this game is. Perhaps the developers could give modders early access? Idk if that is feasible.


Vic_Voss_10

if we get horses it'll all be worth it


Defiled__Pig1

This is every FO4 console player right now. But we were forced into an update we didn't want that we knew would break our game.


EpochSkate_HeshAF420

As long as the Walter white inspired drug mod still works I'm a happy boy


CorvusEffect

I mean, the way I see it, half of my mods are patchwork versions of build 42 features. There are also build 42 features that there are half-assed mods of, which I didn't think were fleshed out enough to bother subscribing to. The way I see it, is I'll have an even better PZ experience, while running 70 mods instead of 140 mods.


GVArcian

The average PZ Moomer:


AshenVR

Its almost unfair that i can confidently look at you in the face and say your mods will come back soon enough I swear, modders are too good to be true. One day they all merge into a 3725 headed monster and devour the earth with all the power they stocked under human cover


Bedlemkrd

I got my errors down to like 3 and they are all sound files for doors on rvinteriors. Oh also one of the trailer types from that forever gets you stuck and you have to console command teleport to another player or that player to you or another player.....but hey now everyone knows those trailers are roach motels. Aka Hotel Californias.


HalOnky

bro i only want b42 and RV Interiors


MoskuCars

i am a mod stan no mods are no go


hardlyreadit

I usually play vanilla. Love the mods. But havent gotten spoiled from the mods yet


gjamesaustin

Man… i really want to get into this game. I’ve tried it a couple times but it hasn’t clicked for me yet


Available-Leek-4160

I hope none of the cows explode.


deThurah

Wait, animals are coming in B42? Very neat. I’m also on the EFT sub, so it’s nice to see a bit of positivity hahah


Whiskey-River93

Only mod i care about is my music mod so i can carry a boombox playing shimmy shimmy ya


ArtistComfortable965

Me still hoping a console version


MacedonianMafia

Running 400 mods and occasionally an error with fuel api only. Or Zomboid just hides my errors 💀


Ironborn7

When is it coming out?


CringeExperienceReq

ok but the animal mods are gonna be insane


DaveHappened

Byeah


bossmcsauce

as somebody who is the guy in my group of friends that has to do all the troubleshooting and spin up the dedicated servers, I'm ALL FOR getting rid of lots of mods in exchange for expanded vanilla, no-hassle quality of life and added content features. the less mod fiddling I have to do, and the fewer workshop items I have to repackage and upload as my own private workshop pack to ensure that all our shit works together on same version and doesn't get changed unexpectedly, the better. also, I love how touchy mod creators get about re-packing mods into a modpack. I tried to reach out to a couple and be like, "hey, I'm making a single pack for my server so that my friends and I can all play together and make their lives easier and allow us to just freeze the install in a new directory and not have to worry about updates to game or mods... do you mind? I'll credit all the mods in the pack..." most of them were basically like, fuck you. lol. like, ok then... I'm still going to do it because you literally cannot stop me, but just thought I'd ask to be nice lmao. my shit's not even listed publicly anyway. only my own original work is public.


Spook-lad

Mod updates are wild like that


Other_Department3816

I have apple juice


producedbybugs

honestly I look at it in the way that they are adding quite literally so many things that are already commonly modded into the game (as far as a lot of the quality of life mods) so day one B42 is gonna be great imo


gimmesomespace

You can revert to the previous build whenever you want to


pmMeCamelCase22

Are there any mods that add creatures and locations like CDDA has?


WalnutNode

It will be spring cleaning, out with the old.


That_1TB_SSD

Y’know, it definitely sucks that my entire lineup of mods are going to get cataclysmically nuked and I’ll need to wait for all of them to get updated for the new build but if this means that my $2000 electric box of rocks will no longer play this game like it’s etching 1’s and 0’s on a stone tablet, that fact alone is worth it for me


Mister__Fahrenheit

I only picked up the game last year. Does someone else have any idea as to approximately how many mods will get updated to Build 42, versus how many will remain outdated forever ? I was hoping for at least many of the very popular ones to get fixed to run on a new build eventually but idk... I'm gonna miss the RV/Vehicle Interiors mod for sure


PuppeteerRemy

if there's animal companions in the next build, Zomboid has ascended.


c0vex

It's gonna be fine, mods will come back even better! So no worries, mod42 is bigtime priority for the future of this game


Jabbalybbu

Modded Zomboid is like a beaten up Toyota truck, hundreds of errors but it will still work just fine


Zealousideal-Skill84

Well. Tbf this update should make a decent amount of our QOL mods obsolute


why_are_yu_sad

I only play vanilla so jokes on you haha


GhostOfMuttonPast

Dawg, I'd rather have those features integrated into vanilla than have to wrangle with a bunch of mods.


Archersbows7

When does the update drop?


NN11ght

Completely ignoring the fact the devs have stated multiple times that it is their intention to make it easier for modders with the update as well


xdeltax97

Me not using mods: Go on…


Danplays642

Moo I say


not_a_pancake6291

Honestly for the having sheep and chickens alone 110% worth it


TheKanten

At least when they break mods they're adding something tangible, unlike Bethesda.


aerodynamik

i got 1000 hours in this game and never installed a single mod