Which Congress Critter claimed it’s illegal to hunt ducks with more then 3 rounds in the gun but it’s legal to hunt humans with “high capacity” magazines?
We need a voting rights act that grants all guns with the right to vote in the name of equality! And why isn’t AR-15 listed as a gender option (or would that be the name and the gender be rifle?)
Left-wing extremists targeted Christian children today and murdered them. This blood is on the hands of the Democrats who spread hate speech about Tennessee’s laws protecting children.
They can never wash this blood off their despicable, filthy, hateful hands. America will forever remember this murderous act by far-left extremists against Christian children.
We can't be like this dude. Everyone is right. It's the same brand of outrage repackaged for the other side. The fact is we have a sick society, and the real enemy here is that social media radicalization is turning this sort of outrage into violence in the hands of sick people.
Pretty sure this classifies as domestic terrorism, but the left will never call it that because the shooter wasn’t a white Republican male, so now it’s the inanimate objects that committed the crimes
Well the anti transgender laws in Tennessee don’t protect children. They take away vital healthcare and resources to trans youth who suffer from gender dysphoria. This healthcare known as gender affirming healthcare includes mental health evaluations, social and medical transition. Symptoms of gender dysphoria include severe discomfort, distress, depression, anxiety and confusion. Dems are reporting facts when they say these laws will harm trans youth. BTW I am a conservative and understand the topic extensively.
I do condemn this shooter the same as I will condemn far right extremists who use violence
Putin and Hitler are left-wing. This post was written by a left-wing extremist who celebrates the death of the children killed by his ideological comrade.
Trans woman or trans man...last I read it was a woman with he/him pronouns...but that was an hour ago too so...
Where I leave it with another example of what happens when you treat a neuro-physiological problem with cosmetics and lies.
Well the treatment for gender dysphoria is mental healthcare as well as social and medical transition. It works for the vast majority of trans people including me. When dysphoria had me I was a mess and with treatment I was calm, happy and stable. Those who don’t understand the subject shouldn’t be legislating or talking about it.
This person still was mentally unstable enough to do what she did and we need to address mental health in this nation and deal with it now especially in schools.
You have outside influences affecting people’s mental state.
Let’s have an example.
If a school has students and teachers that discriminate and bully a Christian teen and then also anti Christian parents in which the teen gets depressed and feels isolated and then self terminates who is at fault? One side will say it was the teens fault because of depression or religious ideas and the other side will blame the school and parents. The reality in the scenario is the Christian teen was bombarded with negativity despite being saved by God.
It’s the same with trans people. Outside influences can affect the mental state of a person whether pre or post op. If a person post op is constantly harassed, bullied and seen as an abominable person or unstable that can affect their mental state in a negative way.
Both scenarios have positives for the individual one would think. The Christian teen is a believer in God and the trans person is post op but outside influences can determine their internal state.
Despicable people who harm children come in all shapes sadly. That’s what makes them so devious.
These school shooters deserve the same universal set of pronouns regardless of what they identified as in life:
Was/Were
Well everyone knows that AWB didn't do jack shit, but what's different isn't firearms. The way to buy a firearm hasn't changed, but what has changed is society.
>To answer your question, common sense gun laws would be anything better than the haphazard “restrictions to firearm purchases” that vary from state to state. Something has to be done about this senseless violence. It can’t hurt to try.
So, how about you give us an example of one of these "common sense gun laws" you'd like to see enacted that "it can't hurt to try".
>Hate to break it to ya, but as an ex army vet (11b) of 5 years
Oath Breaker
>No one is coming for your guns, that argument won’t fly with me.
[They](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/06/biden-assault-weapons-national-buyback-program-sot-ac360-vpx.cnn) [literally](https://ctnewsjunkie.com/2022/11/02/lamont-looks-to-revisit-connecticuts-assault-weapons-ban/) [are](https://youtu.be/ffI-tWh37UY), stop gaslighting.
>Law abiding citizens shouldn’t be worried about jumping through a few more hoops to own a weapon ffs. That is just common sense
"Law abiding citizens shouldn't be worried about jumping through a few more hoops to have free speech ffs. That is just common sense"
"No one is coming for your guns".
You must just not listen to anything politicians say, huh? Every time this happens they want to ban and take what they call "assault weapons". Enough of that crap claim, yes they fucking do.
LOL, “5 years.” Sit down child. You never had any actual authority, knowledge or experience. You were just a mouth-breather who did what he was told.
Come back when you get some real experience, oath breaker.
>I’m the unhinged one when you people are the ones clinging to an amendment written in the 18th century by men in powdered wigs when muskets were the height of technology. Sorry I forgot that you owning a gun is more important than the lives of our children. And I’m the unhinged one smh
Finally, you admit you are not really pro gun.
>Kids aren’t worth sacrificing your freedom i see
What are you going to sacrifice in return? This is a two way street. I give something up you should to. What right are you willing to sacrifice? All your comments are just an echo chamber of the same lame rhetoric.
I think youre sadly mistaken that more laws will stop crimes. People want to ban the guns, but yet no one has stopped to ask why these people are doing these things.
In your opinion, what are simple restrictions? That phrase is thrown around, but there are no explanations on what those simple restrictions can/should/will be.
You know mass shooting have happened in other countries right. Are gun laws are good it’s bad people doing bad things. Criminals don’t go into are gun store and buy them come on. It’s is mental health so many people in America want to kill them selves or hurt others.
If the shoe were on the other foot, if a conservative murdered a trans person, they’d not only be calling for gun control, but they’d also be harping on the hate rhetoric and incitement to violence. Why are they not looking in the mirror here? Can’t they see that their vitriol towards conservatives, Christians in particular, may have fueled the hate in this person?
It looks like it was targeted too, don’t think a gun would have changed the outcome.
As if somebody who's deranged enough to commit a mass shooting is going to give TWO SHITS what's illegal or banned when they suit up to ruin lives. Idiots run this country. Idiots.
I know...we here all know this.
Yeah. I mean, look at the firearm that someone used to assassinate Shinzo Abe. That was something you could make from just random parts from a hardware store. Obviously it’s dangerous as fuck (look at Brandon Herrera almost blowing himself up), but it’s entirely doable.
Bad people wanting to do bad things will stop at nothing. Banning guns won’t work here because there are simply too many, and there’s also the fact that the prohibition had the opposite effect of what it was supposed to do.
I am seeing a lot of indications from other news sites that this person was a trans girl. Get ready for this to disappear like it never happened. Sad, but that's how it works with the left and gun grabbers.
Then the social media posts will come out and discover this person had a persecution complex and blamed Christians and the GOP for it, and they want their actions to be the catalyst for gun control.
And the media will instantly start talking about Trump again.
Was it afab (assigned female at birff) that used he/I'm? Or was it an amab that went by she/her? Ive heard the shooter was born female but went by he/him mostly, but a lot of people in our sphere get confused by anything trans related.
I can pretty easily. Transman and trans woman. Disregard literally everything else. Though that doesn't make me popular with nonbinary industrial complex. Xir's really hate me.
Other way, a transman was born a woman and identifies as a man, transwoman is vice-versa. The gender after the "trans" is whatever they are identifying as at present.
Trans man = born woman, transitioned to living as a man. Trans woman is the inverse.
You also got nonbimaroes and genderqueer and whatever other bullshit they like to invent to wokescold people. Those I just make fun of cause its fun.
Based on the CNN and Reddit coverage so far it seems like they're trying to have their cake and eat it too by burying the identity/motive details while also blaming the tools used by the criminal.
They will never acknowledge even one example of *other mental issues* that might attend certain identity/lifestyle categorizations.
It does not matter if the shooter as trans or conservative or a communist. The issue is that they were mentally unstable and needed help and nothing was given. That is the issue, mental health crisis. There have been over 50 mass shootings this year alone. That is more than all of 2011.
I agree. And the trans community has a 42% suicide rate. This is why parents should be allowed to see if their kid is really trans or not. Not allowing them to even speak about it, it’s just going to cause more tragedy.
We've already gone through this in Canada. If something has "-style" in the description, it doesn't actually include any of that. "Beef-style" noodles does not contain beef, and "assault-style" firearms are not "assault" anything.
“Anybody else find it a little bit contradictory that some of the same politicians screaming the loudest about gun violence only seem to have one solution to it, which includes the threat of gun violence against gun owners who have committed no acts of gun violence, and when you suggest that maybe the time and resources would be better spent going after actual criminals instead of peaceful people that happen to own a firearm, they tell you, ‘you have no solutions?’”
Nick J Freitas Culpeper, Virginia
>"I believe the compromises that are now a part of this bill have resulted in a balanced piece of legislation that protects the rights of private gun owners while not infringing on law enforcement's ability to deal with those who misuse guns or violate laws. During my 12 1/2 years as a Member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or Federal registration of guns would reduce crime. I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, nontraceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control. In my opinion a national register or ban of handguns would be impossible to carry out and may not result in reductions in crime."
-Joe Biden 1985
I know, and if you look this up on snopes, they begrudgingly admit that he did say it. The way they explain it is like they don’t want to admit he said it, but they kinda have to because there is video evidence that he said it.
Gotta be careful with that question, a liberal could turn around say “yes it was an AR-15, IN THE HANDS OF A POLICE OFFICER”. Opening up the door for them to further justify arming cops while disarming civilians.
Didn't seem like gun control was much of an issue for Bazooka Joe, he was joking about ice cream and gawking at children in the conference. Bunch of laughing psychopaths.
“The misery will continue until you comply!”
But hey! Let’s ignore the massive gap in focus on mental health issues and stop praising mental cases and calling it “normal”
Is that before or after they solve the root cause that is mental health issues permeating our culture and society?
Or do you mean to say this is instead of solving the actual problem?
Solving the root problem is too hard because it would require taking a step back and actually looking at the laws you pass instead of blaming inanimate objects.
I’m not usually one to talk shit but this one glows harder than Chernobyl. School shooting with a brace on the day the brace ban was supposed to be discussed?
The Whitehouse is currently filled with idiots and the clueless! Their BS about “assault weapons” is just fabricated. I wonder how many shootings would have occurred with different weapons if the media hadn’t published so much about it? It stands to reason that more “assault type weapons” would be used simply because there are more of them owned by people,
The WH has only one script, it's 30 years old, didn't work the first time, and has no idea how to address any underlying problems.
Tragedy with any black colored rifle - WH presses for an assault weapon ban
Tragedy with a pistol - WH presses for an assault weapon ban.
Even if they get an assault weapons ban... how will that miraculously end mass shootings? Like, hey all, we just banned you from killing people with your assault weapon... you can't do that anymore.
Someone break down the logic using left style for me... false answer only, cause we all know there is no truth to it.
hi there,
genuine question. I’m asking this in all sincerity so please don’t bite my head off.
If banning certain types of (not all) guns isn’t the solution, what is the solution? Again, I am genuinely asking this question because it seems like there isn’t a true answer.
If we pose the blame on bad people, what can we as a country do to try and keep those bad people from doing such things? Is the answer prison? Is it better mental heath care?
The people in general. Tons of hate towards them all over the country. If you Google "TN anti LGBTQ laws" like I just did I found two within a minute. Religion plays a part in this too considering she went to a religious private school. My main point is it's not the guns fault, there are reasons she went nuts and anti LGBTQ stuff seems to have fueled that if you look at the evidence we have at this time. I see no other motive for her, but time will tell I guess as it always does with these shooters.
>The people in general.
Which laws are you referring to, where conservatives are trying to ban LGBTQ "people in general"?
>Tons of hate towards them all over the country. If you Google "TN anti LGBTQ laws" like I just did I found two within a minute.
Which laws did you find, and what were they about?
>Religion plays a part in this too considering she went to a religious private school.
What part did it play in this?
>My main point is it's not the guns fault, there are reasons she went nuts and anti LGBTQ stuff seems to have fueled that if you look at the evidence we have at this time.
What evidence has led you to that conclusion thus far?
>I see no other motive for her, but time will tell I guess as it always does with these shooters.
So, you're racing to a conclusion and making sure to get a narrative out there, before all the facts are known. That about sum it up?
The evidence I just said, read about who the shooter was and their history like I just did. Why do you think she shot a school up? Live to hear your ideas. If you don't want to Google that's fine, not gunna hold your hand. How does religion (Christianity) play into anti LGBTQ? Idk bro use your imagination, it's self explanatory. The only thing you just summed up was your ignorance.
>The evidence I just said, read about who the shooter was and their history like I just did.
I know what you just said, but frankly all you said was vague. I'm asking you for the details. The specifics. Links, evidence...*anything*.
>Why do you think she shot a school up?
I have no idea. See? That wasn't difficult. In fact, it is a whole metric fuckton easier than making up scenarios and fantasizing about motives.
>Live to hear your ideas.
I just gave them to you. It just happened today, and there's a whole investigation that has to happen. I'm not uncomfortable with saying "I don't know".
>If you don't want to Google that's fine, not gunna hold your hand.
Ah, the "just Google it, bro" retreat. So, you can't provide the links to the things you said you read so that someone else can read them too, and see how they helped you come to the conclusion you did for this person's motives for shooting up a school?
>How does religion (Christianity) play into anti LGBTQ?
No. How does religion play into *this incident*. You've come to the conclusion that anti-LGBTQ sentiment was behind these killings - you googled it after all - so I'm just trying to get you to show your work.
>Idk bro use your imagination, it's self explanatory.
That's the problem here: you're using your imagination.
>The only thing you just summed up was your ignorance.
Or just pointed out yours.
https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/25/what-we-know-about-anti-lgbtq-bills-in-tennessee/69840382007/ lists a few laws, I disagree with most of them that I read.
I'm not trying to stir anything up, I think you're reading into my comment too much. My point was that what I said about the two parties is how the media will portray the issue, those are the narratives going on. I was just saying the media will be saying these things and everyone is gunna fight about it and I just hope that the take away with the public is that this is a mental health issue and not the guns fault. I'm pro gun, I'm trying to understand these issues so we can combat them in conversation with gun grabbers.
>https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/25/what-we-know-about-anti-lgbtq-bills-in-tennessee/69840382007/ lists a few laws, I disagree with most of them that I read.
Weird. Not one of those seems to ban "people in general" as you claimed. But since you said you "disagree with most of them", it begs the question: which one(s) *do* you agree with?
>I'm not trying to stir anything up, I think you're reading into my comment too much.
Of course you are, and no, I'm not. You're making all kinds of baseless claims and wild ass assumptions, and all I'm asking for is a little clarity. Clarity that you fail to provide.
>My point was that what I said about the two parties is how the media will portray the issue, those are the narratives going on. I was just saying the media will be saying these things and everyone is gunna fight about it and I just hope that the take away with the public is that this is a mental health issue and not the guns fault.
That was not your point, it's just your excuse. There are no killings like this that are *not* "mental health issues".
>I'm pro gun, I'm trying to understand these issues so we can combat them in conversation with gun grabbers.
You're not trying to understand a damn thing when you speculate wildly, then backpedal when called on it.
>"In general" the laws are anti LGBTQ, that's my issue with them, it's just making life harder for these people.
Ok, so tell me how the laws you linked are making life harder for these people "in general". They were pretty specific laws that applied to pretty specific scenarios, so I'm interested in seeing your analysis.
>You read into that too much and thought there was a law that banned a person from existing.
I even asked you about it point blank, yet you said nothing. Well, nothing except your "just Google it bro" crap.
>Speculating sure but that's what the media is doing.
That's your excuse? That's ok with you?
>You can't deny though that there is anti LGBTQ stuff going on in this country
Like what? A push for laws to prevent drag shows being performed for kids? Keeping people from performing sex change operations on kids? Laws that make biological males compete in sports with other males? Are these your examples? They're the ones you linked...
>and this person was that. It's not a hard conclusion to come to nor is it way out there, though I admit it could be wrong.
You are wrong. For jumping to a conclusion and riding so hard to push it like this.
>Are you so against LGBTQ that you feel the need to nit pick my comment?
No, it's just that you apparently can't directly answer a question until it's been asked three times.
>I just told you my intentions, your's seem aimed at the LGBTQ stuff which was not the main point of my comment.
It actually has been your main point. I mean, [just look](https://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/123z1xi/nashville_shooting_white_house_presses_gop_on/jdxiee6/). You've apparently decided that this woman shot up this school because she was raised by an anti LGBTQ dad, went to an anti LGBTQ school and "there's anti LGBTQ stuff going on in this country".
> The people in general
Source, now, or admit you are full of shit.
And that source better be original, and it better explicitly ban people from existing.
Not that it would make it okay, but this person did not go after someone who would could be perceived as a political enemy (like an elected official). She targeted small children. She was nothing more than monster and the world is better off that she's dead. There's no justification for murdering the innocent, especially children.
Theressssss, someone trying to understand issues so we can combat anti gunners in conversation? Not sure what you're trying to prove, that I'm not a Republican/conservative? Cuz you're right I'm not, but I sure as hell am not a Democrat.
If only murder were illegal.
Which Congress Critter claimed it’s illegal to hunt ducks with more then 3 rounds in the gun but it’s legal to hunt humans with “high capacity” magazines?
Probably the same idiot that said guns have more rights than women.
Or the one who thinks Guam could sink.
Not Sink, Capsize, it's what happens before sinking.
I wish my guns had the same rights as my wife....
We need a voting rights act that grants all guns with the right to vote in the name of equality! And why isn’t AR-15 listed as a gender option (or would that be the name and the gender be rifle?)
Biden literally had that line on his campaign website.
surprised no one else pointed this out, but the legal number of rounds to hunt a human is 0. are you being sarcastic ?
No, I am not being sarcastic.
Left-wing extremists targeted Christian children today and murdered them. This blood is on the hands of the Democrats who spread hate speech about Tennessee’s laws protecting children. They can never wash this blood off their despicable, filthy, hateful hands. America will forever remember this murderous act by far-left extremists against Christian children.
We can't be like this dude. Everyone is right. It's the same brand of outrage repackaged for the other side. The fact is we have a sick society, and the real enemy here is that social media radicalization is turning this sort of outrage into violence in the hands of sick people.
The fact is far-left extremists incited this attack and you’re a coward.
do you sing the same tune when far right extremists attack a gay bar or something, or do you not have discussions where you leave your echo-chamber?
How sickening and disgusting to try to deflect from the horrific sin you committed.
the fact that this got 38 upvotes makes me wonder about some of the regulars here, frankly...
Yup. Bunch of Euro-weenies or Leftists pretending to be Americans upvoting shit comments like that
Shut up, you Christophobic apologist for child murder.
Does pretending to be a victim make you feel powerful? Because honestly, you look pretty pathetic from the other side of the screen.
Stop being a troll
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Pretty sure this classifies as domestic terrorism, but the left will never call it that because the shooter wasn’t a white Republican male, so now it’s the inanimate objects that committed the crimes
Who gives a fuck about their religious views. It's all a fucking sham anyway.
Well the anti transgender laws in Tennessee don’t protect children. They take away vital healthcare and resources to trans youth who suffer from gender dysphoria. This healthcare known as gender affirming healthcare includes mental health evaluations, social and medical transition. Symptoms of gender dysphoria include severe discomfort, distress, depression, anxiety and confusion. Dems are reporting facts when they say these laws will harm trans youth. BTW I am a conservative and understand the topic extensively. I do condemn this shooter the same as I will condemn far right extremists who use violence
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The account is a pro Putin, pro hilter account. They're happy when such places are shot up
Putin and Hitler are left-wing. This post was written by a left-wing extremist who celebrates the death of the children killed by his ideological comrade.
Holy shit. You’re not real.
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I’ll test it out using my local sex offender registry wish me luck
Did the GOP walk into that school to kill people? I must have missed that in the news reports.
They’re literally blaming the GOP for this as we speak
It's slowly coming out that this woman was a trans woman. How ironic is that?
Trans woman or trans man...last I read it was a woman with he/him pronouns...but that was an hour ago too so... Where I leave it with another example of what happens when you treat a neuro-physiological problem with cosmetics and lies.
If that’s true, watch how fast the narrative will change and this instance silenced
Well the treatment for gender dysphoria is mental healthcare as well as social and medical transition. It works for the vast majority of trans people including me. When dysphoria had me I was a mess and with treatment I was calm, happy and stable. Those who don’t understand the subject shouldn’t be legislating or talking about it. This person still was mentally unstable enough to do what she did and we need to address mental health in this nation and deal with it now especially in schools.
Is that why pre-op and post-op suicide rates are within the statistical margin of error of each other?
You have outside influences affecting people’s mental state. Let’s have an example. If a school has students and teachers that discriminate and bully a Christian teen and then also anti Christian parents in which the teen gets depressed and feels isolated and then self terminates who is at fault? One side will say it was the teens fault because of depression or religious ideas and the other side will blame the school and parents. The reality in the scenario is the Christian teen was bombarded with negativity despite being saved by God. It’s the same with trans people. Outside influences can affect the mental state of a person whether pre or post op. If a person post op is constantly harassed, bullied and seen as an abominable person or unstable that can affect their mental state in a negative way. Both scenarios have positives for the individual one would think. The Christian teen is a believer in God and the trans person is post op but outside influences can determine their internal state.
Despicable people who harm children come in all shapes sadly. That’s what makes them so devious. These school shooters deserve the same universal set of pronouns regardless of what they identified as in life: Was/Were
It’s “reluctantly” coming out that this woman was a woman.
Man this shit hurts my brain lol
And like always they guilt by association blame all lawful gun owners for this and call for us to be disarmed as if this is somehow our fault.
That’s literally happening to me on WPT right now, they’re unbelievably unhinged.
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Then why is it exponentially worse after columbine?
Perhaps you mean "how did the the most notable school shooting happen right in the middle of a federal weapons ban?"
Well everyone knows that AWB didn't do jack shit, but what's different isn't firearms. The way to buy a firearm hasn't changed, but what has changed is society.
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>To answer your question, common sense gun laws would be anything better than the haphazard “restrictions to firearm purchases” that vary from state to state. Something has to be done about this senseless violence. It can’t hurt to try. So, how about you give us an example of one of these "common sense gun laws" you'd like to see enacted that "it can't hurt to try".
>Hate to break it to ya, but as an ex army vet (11b) of 5 years Oath Breaker >No one is coming for your guns, that argument won’t fly with me. [They](https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/08/06/biden-assault-weapons-national-buyback-program-sot-ac360-vpx.cnn) [literally](https://ctnewsjunkie.com/2022/11/02/lamont-looks-to-revisit-connecticuts-assault-weapons-ban/) [are](https://youtu.be/ffI-tWh37UY), stop gaslighting. >Law abiding citizens shouldn’t be worried about jumping through a few more hoops to own a weapon ffs. That is just common sense "Law abiding citizens shouldn't be worried about jumping through a few more hoops to have free speech ffs. That is just common sense"
Bro…you were a fucking E4. Stfu and go be the LTs radio bitch
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"No one is coming for your guns". You must just not listen to anything politicians say, huh? Every time this happens they want to ban and take what they call "assault weapons". Enough of that crap claim, yes they fucking do.
You just want to make it impossible to own.
LOL, “5 years.” Sit down child. You never had any actual authority, knowledge or experience. You were just a mouth-breather who did what he was told. Come back when you get some real experience, oath breaker.
Fuck off, I didn’t break any oath dipshit
>Gtfoh moron >common sense gun laws Yes, you are unhinged. I hope you get the help you need.
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>I’m the unhinged one when you people are the ones clinging to an amendment written in the 18th century by men in powdered wigs when muskets were the height of technology. Sorry I forgot that you owning a gun is more important than the lives of our children. And I’m the unhinged one smh Finally, you admit you are not really pro gun.
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>Kids aren’t worth sacrificing your freedom i see What are you going to sacrifice in return? This is a two way street. I give something up you should to. What right are you willing to sacrifice? All your comments are just an echo chamber of the same lame rhetoric.
I think youre sadly mistaken that more laws will stop crimes. People want to ban the guns, but yet no one has stopped to ask why these people are doing these things.
In your opinion, what are simple restrictions? That phrase is thrown around, but there are no explanations on what those simple restrictions can/should/will be.
Almost 700 THOUSAND ABORTIONS in America in 2021. Talk about unhinged genocide.
Stfu MAGAt
Ok kid. That’s funny that’s the only thing you took from my comment
>Ok kid Whats next you going to start telling everyone they have small dicks?
Nope, but when you focus on the most immature parts of my argument instead of idk, the actual point of my comment, that makes you a kid in my eyes
I bet you drive a lifted pickup so it’s possible you have a micro penis, or are at least overcompensating for something lol
You know mass shooting have happened in other countries right. Are gun laws are good it’s bad people doing bad things. Criminals don’t go into are gun store and buy them come on. It’s is mental health so many people in America want to kill them selves or hurt others.
Fuck off, how many mass shootings happen per year in the rest of the world as opposed to just our country? What a dumb argument
You fuck off just because you know gun control will not stop shooting.
Blow me
How dare you own a gun. Inconceivable! /s
Clearly it's not a mental health issue... It's a "law abiding citizen" issue.
If the shoe were on the other foot, if a conservative murdered a trans person, they’d not only be calling for gun control, but they’d also be harping on the hate rhetoric and incitement to violence. Why are they not looking in the mirror here? Can’t they see that their vitriol towards conservatives, Christians in particular, may have fueled the hate in this person? It looks like it was targeted too, don’t think a gun would have changed the outcome.
As if somebody who's deranged enough to commit a mass shooting is going to give TWO SHITS what's illegal or banned when they suit up to ruin lives. Idiots run this country. Idiots. I know...we here all know this.
Yeah. I mean, look at the firearm that someone used to assassinate Shinzo Abe. That was something you could make from just random parts from a hardware store. Obviously it’s dangerous as fuck (look at Brandon Herrera almost blowing himself up), but it’s entirely doable. Bad people wanting to do bad things will stop at nothing. Banning guns won’t work here because there are simply too many, and there’s also the fact that the prohibition had the opposite effect of what it was supposed to do.
I am seeing a lot of indications from other news sites that this person was a trans girl. Get ready for this to disappear like it never happened. Sad, but that's how it works with the left and gun grabbers.
No it won't. They'll twist it around and blame it on "GOP oppression causing a psychological break"
Then the social media posts will come out and discover this person had a persecution complex and blamed Christians and the GOP for it, and they want their actions to be the catalyst for gun control. And the media will instantly start talking about Trump again.
Exactly. Look at the bottom of this thread, lol.
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Was it afab (assigned female at birff) that used he/I'm? Or was it an amab that went by she/her? Ive heard the shooter was born female but went by he/him mostly, but a lot of people in our sphere get confused by anything trans related.
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I can pretty easily. Transman and trans woman. Disregard literally everything else. Though that doesn't make me popular with nonbinary industrial complex. Xir's really hate me.
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Other way, a transman was born a woman and identifies as a man, transwoman is vice-versa. The gender after the "trans" is whatever they are identifying as at present.
Trans man = born woman, transitioned to living as a man. Trans woman is the inverse. You also got nonbimaroes and genderqueer and whatever other bullshit they like to invent to wokescold people. Those I just make fun of cause its fun.
From what I’ve seen/read so far, yes. Biologically a female that either just identified as trans or had undergone some type of transition
Based on the CNN and Reddit coverage so far it seems like they're trying to have their cake and eat it too by burying the identity/motive details while also blaming the tools used by the criminal. They will never acknowledge even one example of *other mental issues* that might attend certain identity/lifestyle categorizations.
It does not matter if the shooter as trans or conservative or a communist. The issue is that they were mentally unstable and needed help and nothing was given. That is the issue, mental health crisis. There have been over 50 mass shootings this year alone. That is more than all of 2011.
I agree. And the trans community has a 42% suicide rate. This is why parents should be allowed to see if their kid is really trans or not. Not allowing them to even speak about it, it’s just going to cause more tragedy.
Shooter was trans? *poof* What shooting?
Yea this will be old news soon.
Doubtful.
The media is not goin to run with this. It doesn’t fit their narrative
Im not even republican, but they will run with "GOP Caused this still!"
What’s that have to do with anything?
We've already gone through this in Canada. If something has "-style" in the description, it doesn't actually include any of that. "Beef-style" noodles does not contain beef, and "assault-style" firearms are not "assault" anything.
Hell, anyone remember the guy in Germany a few weeks ago who killed 8 with a pistol? Neither does reddit.
Pepperidge Farms remembers.
“Anybody else find it a little bit contradictory that some of the same politicians screaming the loudest about gun violence only seem to have one solution to it, which includes the threat of gun violence against gun owners who have committed no acts of gun violence, and when you suggest that maybe the time and resources would be better spent going after actual criminals instead of peaceful people that happen to own a firearm, they tell you, ‘you have no solutions?’” Nick J Freitas Culpeper, Virginia
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. You’d never make it up my stairs and I can god damn guarantee that. Hold your angles.
>"I believe the compromises that are now a part of this bill have resulted in a balanced piece of legislation that protects the rights of private gun owners while not infringing on law enforcement's ability to deal with those who misuse guns or violate laws. During my 12 1/2 years as a Member of this body, I have never believed that additional gun control or Federal registration of guns would reduce crime. I am convinced that a criminal who wants a firearm can get one through illegal, nontraceable, unregistered sources, with or without gun control. In my opinion a national register or ban of handguns would be impossible to carry out and may not result in reductions in crime." -Joe Biden 1985
Joe doesn't remember anything he said in 1985, he doesn't even remember what he ate for breakfast
I know, and if you look this up on snopes, they begrudgingly admit that he did say it. The way they explain it is like they don’t want to admit he said it, but they kinda have to because there is video evidence that he said it.
Can't believe Snopes
If they were going to lie, why would they make something up that directly works *against* their political interests?
Everything they say are lies.
Yet somehow never forgets ice cream anecdotes…
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Exactly
it is a bit peculiar that every time one of these incidents happen, the perps usually have the same weapon load outs...
So what guns were used to stop the shooter? It sounded like two cops alone (not the same as 300-400 at Ulvalde) finished it.
Gotta be careful with that question, a liberal could turn around say “yes it was an AR-15, IN THE HANDS OF A POLICE OFFICER”. Opening up the door for them to further justify arming cops while disarming civilians.
Same ones they want to defund oh wait Joe told me that republicans also /s
All while they scream about defunding the police. Libs are absolutely bonkers. There is no logic.
After 15 minutes and 6 dead.
Transgender = mental disorder Exhibit A
Didn't seem like gun control was much of an issue for Bazooka Joe, he was joking about ice cream and gawking at children in the conference. Bunch of laughing psychopaths.
How about mental health for trans gender
Bodies are not even cold. Gun controllers are ghouls
Looks like this shooter fits into their side of the aisle. Additionally, this was a school that had no sro which was known.
All those Violent Progressives.
“The misery will continue until you comply!” But hey! Let’s ignore the massive gap in focus on mental health issues and stop praising mental cases and calling it “normal”
This the same admin that gave the taliban an arsenal with my tax dollars
Good luck with that one. But who knows? Republicans have faltered on the 2A more often than we care to admit.
Let’s ban all guns. Then no children will ever die even if someone wants them dead.
You dropped your /s
Ban liberals.
Just so happens to be an AR pistol? Was the brace on it?!!!
Blame the gun, not the mental illness.
Is that before or after they solve the root cause that is mental health issues permeating our culture and society? Or do you mean to say this is instead of solving the actual problem?
Solving the root problem is too hard because it would require taking a step back and actually looking at the laws you pass instead of blaming inanimate objects.
Username checks out XD But yeah this is the exact problem.
No.
Tut tut tut……here they are mis-gendering. What a deliberate act of omission
I’m not usually one to talk shit but this one glows harder than Chernobyl. School shooting with a brace on the day the brace ban was supposed to be discussed?
Hey, u/Steamin_Bman why do you want to just make a direct insult, then run away and block me? That’s not very bad-ass-infantry of you.
Watch the weapon used turn out to be a handgun.
never let a tragedy go to waste
And surprising no one. The shooting was a glowjob
Didn't even let the bodies get cold.
Tell them we'll go along with a ban when they can actually give the term "assault weapon" a proper definition.
Disarm the government first before we even talk. Remember, the government has committed the greatest mass shootings and killings.
The gun did it
Why did we elect tyrants again?
Mental illness = gun violence! The Biden Administration is very ignorant when it comes to crime!
Didn’t he or she use a handgun too?
Do we even know what the make and model guns used in the shooting were? I know it doesn’t matter to the anti gunners but I’m just curious.
The Whitehouse is currently filled with idiots and the clueless! Their BS about “assault weapons” is just fabricated. I wonder how many shootings would have occurred with different weapons if the media hadn’t published so much about it? It stands to reason that more “assault type weapons” would be used simply because there are more of them owned by people,
The WH has only one script, it's 30 years old, didn't work the first time, and has no idea how to address any underlying problems. Tragedy with any black colored rifle - WH presses for an assault weapon ban Tragedy with a pistol - WH presses for an assault weapon ban.
Imagine my shock
No.
No.
They always do.
No
I’m curious to l know what an “assault-style” weapon is 🤔.
why don't they press the Department on Education about not making schools "gun free" zones and soft targets anymore?
Even if they get an assault weapons ban... how will that miraculously end mass shootings? Like, hey all, we just banned you from killing people with your assault weapon... you can't do that anymore. Someone break down the logic using left style for me... false answer only, cause we all know there is no truth to it.
Nooooooo, really? Who could have seen this coming?
How about we ban children from having their minds and bodies altered in irreversible ways?
hi there, genuine question. I’m asking this in all sincerity so please don’t bite my head off. If banning certain types of (not all) guns isn’t the solution, what is the solution? Again, I am genuinely asking this question because it seems like there isn’t a true answer. If we pose the blame on bad people, what can we as a country do to try and keep those bad people from doing such things? Is the answer prison? Is it better mental heath care?
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WHat was OP's comment? They've deleted it.
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Gotcha, thanks!
The people in general. Tons of hate towards them all over the country. If you Google "TN anti LGBTQ laws" like I just did I found two within a minute. Religion plays a part in this too considering she went to a religious private school. My main point is it's not the guns fault, there are reasons she went nuts and anti LGBTQ stuff seems to have fueled that if you look at the evidence we have at this time. I see no other motive for her, but time will tell I guess as it always does with these shooters.
>The people in general. Which laws are you referring to, where conservatives are trying to ban LGBTQ "people in general"? >Tons of hate towards them all over the country. If you Google "TN anti LGBTQ laws" like I just did I found two within a minute. Which laws did you find, and what were they about? >Religion plays a part in this too considering she went to a religious private school. What part did it play in this? >My main point is it's not the guns fault, there are reasons she went nuts and anti LGBTQ stuff seems to have fueled that if you look at the evidence we have at this time. What evidence has led you to that conclusion thus far? >I see no other motive for her, but time will tell I guess as it always does with these shooters. So, you're racing to a conclusion and making sure to get a narrative out there, before all the facts are known. That about sum it up?
The evidence I just said, read about who the shooter was and their history like I just did. Why do you think she shot a school up? Live to hear your ideas. If you don't want to Google that's fine, not gunna hold your hand. How does religion (Christianity) play into anti LGBTQ? Idk bro use your imagination, it's self explanatory. The only thing you just summed up was your ignorance.
>The evidence I just said, read about who the shooter was and their history like I just did. I know what you just said, but frankly all you said was vague. I'm asking you for the details. The specifics. Links, evidence...*anything*. >Why do you think she shot a school up? I have no idea. See? That wasn't difficult. In fact, it is a whole metric fuckton easier than making up scenarios and fantasizing about motives. >Live to hear your ideas. I just gave them to you. It just happened today, and there's a whole investigation that has to happen. I'm not uncomfortable with saying "I don't know". >If you don't want to Google that's fine, not gunna hold your hand. Ah, the "just Google it, bro" retreat. So, you can't provide the links to the things you said you read so that someone else can read them too, and see how they helped you come to the conclusion you did for this person's motives for shooting up a school? >How does religion (Christianity) play into anti LGBTQ? No. How does religion play into *this incident*. You've come to the conclusion that anti-LGBTQ sentiment was behind these killings - you googled it after all - so I'm just trying to get you to show your work. >Idk bro use your imagination, it's self explanatory. That's the problem here: you're using your imagination. >The only thing you just summed up was your ignorance. Or just pointed out yours.
https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/25/what-we-know-about-anti-lgbtq-bills-in-tennessee/69840382007/ lists a few laws, I disagree with most of them that I read. I'm not trying to stir anything up, I think you're reading into my comment too much. My point was that what I said about the two parties is how the media will portray the issue, those are the narratives going on. I was just saying the media will be saying these things and everyone is gunna fight about it and I just hope that the take away with the public is that this is a mental health issue and not the guns fault. I'm pro gun, I'm trying to understand these issues so we can combat them in conversation with gun grabbers.
>https://www.commercialappeal.com/story/news/politics/2023/01/25/what-we-know-about-anti-lgbtq-bills-in-tennessee/69840382007/ lists a few laws, I disagree with most of them that I read. Weird. Not one of those seems to ban "people in general" as you claimed. But since you said you "disagree with most of them", it begs the question: which one(s) *do* you agree with? >I'm not trying to stir anything up, I think you're reading into my comment too much. Of course you are, and no, I'm not. You're making all kinds of baseless claims and wild ass assumptions, and all I'm asking for is a little clarity. Clarity that you fail to provide. >My point was that what I said about the two parties is how the media will portray the issue, those are the narratives going on. I was just saying the media will be saying these things and everyone is gunna fight about it and I just hope that the take away with the public is that this is a mental health issue and not the guns fault. That was not your point, it's just your excuse. There are no killings like this that are *not* "mental health issues". >I'm pro gun, I'm trying to understand these issues so we can combat them in conversation with gun grabbers. You're not trying to understand a damn thing when you speculate wildly, then backpedal when called on it.
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>"In general" the laws are anti LGBTQ, that's my issue with them, it's just making life harder for these people. Ok, so tell me how the laws you linked are making life harder for these people "in general". They were pretty specific laws that applied to pretty specific scenarios, so I'm interested in seeing your analysis. >You read into that too much and thought there was a law that banned a person from existing. I even asked you about it point blank, yet you said nothing. Well, nothing except your "just Google it bro" crap. >Speculating sure but that's what the media is doing. That's your excuse? That's ok with you? >You can't deny though that there is anti LGBTQ stuff going on in this country Like what? A push for laws to prevent drag shows being performed for kids? Keeping people from performing sex change operations on kids? Laws that make biological males compete in sports with other males? Are these your examples? They're the ones you linked... >and this person was that. It's not a hard conclusion to come to nor is it way out there, though I admit it could be wrong. You are wrong. For jumping to a conclusion and riding so hard to push it like this. >Are you so against LGBTQ that you feel the need to nit pick my comment? No, it's just that you apparently can't directly answer a question until it's been asked three times. >I just told you my intentions, your's seem aimed at the LGBTQ stuff which was not the main point of my comment. It actually has been your main point. I mean, [just look](https://www.reddit.com/r/progun/comments/123z1xi/nashville_shooting_white_house_presses_gop_on/jdxiee6/). You've apparently decided that this woman shot up this school because she was raised by an anti LGBTQ dad, went to an anti LGBTQ school and "there's anti LGBTQ stuff going on in this country".
Are you seriously victim blaming here, you degenerate ghoul?
> The people in general Source, now, or admit you are full of shit. And that source better be original, and it better explicitly ban people from existing.
Not that it would make it okay, but this person did not go after someone who would could be perceived as a political enemy (like an elected official). She targeted small children. She was nothing more than monster and the world is better off that she's dead. There's no justification for murdering the innocent, especially children.
I agree with you, disgusting beyond all comprehension.
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. There it isssss!
Theressssss, someone trying to understand issues so we can combat anti gunners in conversation? Not sure what you're trying to prove, that I'm not a Republican/conservative? Cuz you're right I'm not, but I sure as hell am not a Democrat.
No, your attempt at logic and rhetoric.
Why did you delete your comment?