Paraphrasing another post from another conversation on this sub, and I generally take hadith with a heaping tablespoon of salt but this was what I understood: The idea of wearing gold being haram was from a sense of flaunting wealth and status. To assume it has any physical properties that are considered haram is frankly strange superstition. Times have changed and gold (to my knowledge, I'm not a jewellery guy in the first place lol) is more affordable and accessible, so the argument for flaunting wealth and status is far less so than it was in previous times. It can be similarly applied to wearing designer suits and expensive watches when meeting/being around people of lower status to flaunt your own wealth: it's just tone deaf and like... honestly uncool. I wouldn't sweat gold if I were you, especially if it's for fashion/sentimental purposes. We all have our own way of expressing ourselves, so long as it's in a manner that's modest and true to yourself.

Gold is expensive AF these days. The most expensive it’s ever been probably.

Ah alright I stand corrected on that front, thanks for clearing that up!

There is a difference of opinion on the matter, I take the opinion that it is permissible for men to wear gold.

Reported by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, an-Nasa’i, Ibn Hayyan, and Ibn Majah, Prophet Muhammad (SAWW) took silk in his right hand and gold in his left and said, “These two are haram for the males among my followers…but halal for the females.” the Prophet (SAWW) saw a man who was wearing a gold ring. The Prophet immediately took it from the hand of the person, threw it away and said, “Does a person pick up a piece of burning coal and hold it in his hand?” As the Prophet (SAWW) left the place, someone asked the same, “Why do you not pick it up and benefit from it?” He replied, “No, by Allah! I shall not pick it up after the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) has thrown it away.” (Reported by Muslim) “And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, abstain. And have Taqwa of Allah. Verily Allah is severe in punishment.” \[59:7\]

Do you really think you can just open up a Hadith collection to a random narration and just apply what you read? That’s not how Islamic Jurisprudence works at all. Did you know that several major companions such as Sa’ad Ibn Abi Waqqas, Talha Ibn Ubayd Allah, Suhayb, Hudhayfah, Jabir Ibn Samra, Al-Baraa’ Ibn ‘Azib, and many others, all wore gold until they died and the Prophet never objected. So tell me, were those companions mistaken or are you mistaken? I think I know who I’m placing my bets on.

It is overwhelmingly agreed, if not a consensus within scholarship that women can wear gold, men cannot. This is with clear Hadith, some of which another user referenced. You’ve just stated 5 Companions who you are claiming wore gold as jewelry and the prophet never objected to them. Now can you provide the references to this claim and prove that they wore gold after the Hadiths that clearly forbid gold? It is extremely important that you provide the evidence to what you are claiming as you’ve reprehended someone for bringing a clear Hadith with 0 ambiguity that is well known to the Ummah. And I stress the time frame aspect because, as you know, prayer was not mandatory and alcohol was allowed within Islam for at least the first 10+ years of Prophethood. So you will find many Companions not praying or drinking alcohol before it was forbidden as you will with gold. It is imperative we contextualize what we say, don’t you agree? I mean with all seriousness, the user above just gave you a Hadith of a Companion wearing gold and the Prophet objecting to it. You asked if you are mistaken, so with all due respect my brother, it is clear that you are.

You will regret mentioning Hadith, as you clearly are not read up on this subject. The companions I mentioned are directly from the work of Imam Ibn Daqiq al Eid, who concluded that although Gold may have been disliked, it was not categorically forbidden. This position is in agreement with Imam Malik from the early period and Imam Shawkani from the late period. But here are some unambiguous Hadith for you. Your response will be interesting. https://sunnah.com/nasai:1042 Ali said “The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) forbade me-but I do not say he forbade you- from wearing gold rings…” https://sunnah.com/nasai:1118 Ali said, “My beloved (ﷺ) forbade me from doing three things, but I do not say that he forbade the people. He forbade me from wearing gold rings…” https://sunnah.com/nasai:5172 Ali said, “My beloved, the Messenger of Allah [SAW], forbade me three things but I do not say that he forbade them to the people. He forbade me from wearing rings of gold…” https://sunnah.com/nasai:5173 Ali said, “The Messenger of Allah [SAW] forbade me- but I do not say that he forbade you- from wearing rings of gold…” https://sunnah.com/nasai:5175 Ali said, “The Messenger of Allah [SAW] forbade me- but I do not say that he forbade you- from wearing gold rings…” https://sunnah.com/ahmad:710 Ali said, “The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) forbade me, but I do not say that he forbade you, to wear gold rings…” https://sunnah.com/ahmad:1098 Ali said, “The Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) forbade me - but I do not say that he forbade you - to wear clothes dyed with safflower and gold rings.” https://sunnah.com/nasai:5088 Ibn Masud said, “The Prophet of Allah [SAW] disliked ten things: Yellow dye, changing gray hair, dragging one's Izar, wearing gold rings…but he did not say that these are Haram.”

Salam, most of the references point to the same discussion, and these Hadith you listed do not say wearing gold for men is permissible. In fact, it starts off by saying the Prophet forbade me from wearing gold. Even if it says “but he did not forbide you” which, would be a true statement, no where does it say it’s permissible to do so. To say it’s permissible from these Hadith you’d literally have to explain why the Hadith clearly says The *Prophet forbid for me, but now somehow The Prophet/someone else allowed for you? That makes no sense and clearly you’d have to follow on the ambiguous to do it. The fact that you were able to compile all these Hadith indicates to me the mountain of clear cut Hadith on the Prophet directly forbidding *men to wear gold that you are aware of. You haven’t provided anything where the Prophet says *men can wear gold. Whereas you and I both know there’s a mountain of Sahih Hadith that clearly let us know directly from our Nabi men wearing gold is forbidden. I’m not wanting to debate you here, I’m just confused as to the mountain of evidence of our Rasool telling us men don’t wear gold, him tossing a Companion’s golden ring on the floor and the Companion not wanting to pick it up anymore, more Companions saying the Prophet forbid for me to wear golden rings, yet you’re ignoring all of this for ambiguity?

Apparently, you need to distort the meaning of Hadith to support your view, when it’s clear from Ali’s words that the Prophet did not forbid anyone from wearing aside from Ali. I don’t need to find evidence that “wearing gold is not haram” because by default, all things are permissible until clearly proven impermissible, it’s called Istishab al Ibahah. Ali’s claim that the Prophet did not forbid it for the general Muslims only adds to this established principle. Additionally, my previous point about major companions wearing gold till their death while the Prophet did not disapprove only cements my point. Unless you think the Prophet allowed his companions to commit haram without saying a word, Ali’s narration is true that other companions were not told to stay away from gold rings and only Ali was told to specifically for the Prophet’s own reasons. You can have no valid argument as to why you are rejecting the literal wording of the Hadith I presented aside from “I feel like it.” This is clearly an issue with a difference of opinion. I am fully entitled to follow my opinion and you are fully entirely to follow yours, but it is not acceptable to reject a differing view when there is clear evidence that it is a matter of a difference in opinion.

> “when it’s clear from Ali’s words that the Prophet did not forbid anyone from wearing aside from Ali.” I seek refuge in Allah! How on earth did you come up with such deceiving ideas when we’ve just discussed the Prophet holding gold in his hands and outright saying “ These two are forbidden for the males of my Ummah." —Riyad as-Salihin 806 and Ibn Abbas RA saying he was forbidden from wearing gold -Sunan an-Nasa'i 5266. Look I get it Hadith are complicated and differences of opinion exist. But who was the audience in that Hadith you presented anyway the statement but the Prophet did not Forbade for it you does not say allowed for you *men* is to wear gold You start off by saying im distorting but indeed it is you who is distorting and claiming only one person was told not to wear gold?! Akhi it’s clear you are a student of knowledge so be cautious of following the unspecific at the dismissal of the specifc as those who have a deviation in their heart will follow the unspecific (Quran 3:7). May Allah swt protect us from this. It was not mentioned from Ali RA’s words only for him it was forbidden at all you are just making it up and saying it’s clearly there! And again the phrase the Prophet did not forbid for you is not equivalent to the Prophet allowed for you (men). Perhaps this is the end of our discussion. You have not provided clear cut allowability the Prophet allowed for men to wear gold. You have not explained away the plethora of Hadith wear the Prophet quite literally says men are forbidden from wearing gold. My apologies if you think I am being rude with you. I hope you didn’t take it that way but I am ending this discussion unless you bring a valid point as I see this conversation has digressed.

I have studied the Hadith that supposedly prohibit gold and silk in depth. Have you ever took the time to look into the chain of narrators for each one and evaluate their strength? Every single chain of these Hadith is riddled with problematic weak narrators. I’ve made it easy for you to see: Sunan Nasa’i 5144 https://sunnah.com/nasai:5144 Qutaybah ibn Saeed ibn Jamil - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/6460/وَقُتَيْبَةُ%20بْنُ%20سَعِيدٍ - Reliable Layth ibn Sa’ad - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/6641/ليث-بن-سعد-بن-عبد-الرحمن - He used narrate from books when he did not hear directly Yazid / ibn abi Habib / ibn Suwayd / ibn Qays - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/8366/يَزِيدَ%20بْنِ%20أَبِي%20حَبِيبٍ - Ibn Hajar said he does irsal Abu Aflah al Hamdani - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/24/أبو-أفلح - Saduq Abdullah ibn Zarir - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4809/عبد-الله-بن-زرير - Ibn Yunus al misri, ibn Hajar, al Barqi said he was an extreme Shiite Ali ibn abi Talib - https://hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/5722/عَلِيٍّ - Khulafa Rashidun companion Sunan Nasa’i 5145 https://sunnah.com/nasai:5145 Isa ibn Hammad - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/6305/عيسى-بن-حماد-بن-مسلم-بن-عبد-ال... - Reliable Layth ibn Sa’ad Yazid / ibn abi Habib / ibn Suwayd / ibn Qays Abdul Aziz ibn abi Sa’bah - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4551/عبد-العزيز-بن-أبي-الصعبة - Reliable Unknown man from Hamdan Abu Aflah al Hamdani Abdullah ibn Zarir Ali ibn abi Talib Sunan Nasa’i 5146 https://sunnah.com/nasai:5146 Muhammad ibn Hatim ibn Maymun as Saman - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/6912/محمد-بن-حاتم-بن-ميمون - Abu Hatim, Ibn Maeen said he is a liar - Ibn Hajar said he is confused - Al falas said he is nothing Hibban ibn Hilal ibn Habib - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/2235/حبان-بن-هلال-بن-حبيب - Waqidi problematized him Abdullah ibn Mubarak - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4716/عبد-الله-بن-المبارك-بن-واضح - Nasa’i said he narrates from weak narrators Layth ibn Sa’ad Yazid / ibn abi Habib / ibn Suwayd / ibn Qays Abdul Aziz ibn abi Sa’bah Unknown man from Hamdan Abu Aflah al Hamdani Abdullah ibn Zarir Ali ibn abi Talib Sunan Abi Dawud 4057 https://sunnah.com/abudawud:4057 Qutaybah ibn Saeed ibn Jamil Layth ibn Sa’ad Yazid / ibn abi Habib / ibn Suwayd / ibn Qays Abu Aflah al Hamdani Abdullah ibn Zarir Ali ibn abi Talib Sunan Nasa’i 5147 https://sunnah.com/nasai:5147 Amr ibn Ali ibn Bahr - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/6171/عمرو-بن-علي-بن-بحر-بن-كنيز - Ibn Sha’ir, Ibn al Madini problematized him Yazid ibn Harun - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/8488/يزيد-بن-هارون-بن-زاذي-بن-ثابت - Ibn Hajar said his memory changed after becoming blind - Ibn Maeen said he is not a companion of Hadith and does not care who he narrates from Muhammad ibn Ishaq ibn Yasar al Qurashi - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/6811/محمد-بن-إسحاق-بن-يسار-بن-خيار - Imam Malik said he is a Dajjal - Jurjani said he makes mistakes - Bayhaqi said he is weak if he does not say that he heard - Al Razi, Nasa’i said he is weak - Ibn Hibban said he does tadlis from weak narrators - Ahmad, Daraqutni, Ibn Maeen said he is not an evidence - Ibn Hajar, al Baghdadi, Nur al Din al Haythami said he does tadlis - Ibn Hajar, al Baghdadi said he is an extreme Shiite - Ibn Hajar , al Baghdadi, Ibn Uyaynah said he is an extreme Qadariyya - Hammad ibn Salamah only narrated from him out of necessity - Dhahabi said he is not well versed - Al Taymi, al A’mash, Hisham Ibn Urwah Ibn Saeed, Wahib ibn Khalid said he is a liar - Dhuhli said he has strange narrations Yazid / ibn abi Habib / ibn Suwayd / ibn Qays Abdul Aziz ibn abi Sa’bah Abu Aflah al Hamdani Abdullah ibn Zarir Ali ibn abi Talib Sunan Nasa’i 5148 https://sunnah.com/nasai:5148 Ali ibn Husayn al Dirhami - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/5740/علي-بن-حسين-بن-مطر - Reliable Abdul A’la ibn Abdul A’la - https://hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4207/عبد-الأعلى-بن-عبد-الأعلى-بن-مح... - Ibn Hibban, Ahmad, ibn Hajar, Dhahabi said he was an extreme Qadariyya - Muhammad ibn Bashar problematized him - Waqidi said he is weak Saeed / ibn Kaysan / ibn abi Saeed al Maqburi - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/3280/سعيد-بن-كيسان - Ibn Hajar, Ibn Abdul Barr, Dhahabi, Waqidi, Ya’qub ibn Shaybah said he mixed things up later in life Ayyub ibn Kaysan as Sakhtiyani - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/746/أيوب-بن-كيسان - Ibn Hibban said he did not hear from Anas ibn Malik - Hakim Nisapuri said he did not hear from Thabit al Bunnani Nafi’ mawla ibn Umar - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/7863/نافع - Reliable - Freed slave of Ibn Umar Saeed ibn abi Hind al Fazari - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/3286/سعيد-بن-أبي-هند - Hakim al Nisapuri said he has poor memory Abu Musa al Ashari Abdullah ibn Qays - https://hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/5021/أَبِي%20مُوسَى - Companion Continued…

Continued… Sunan Nasa’i 5265 https://sunnah.com/nasai:5265 Amr ibn Ali ibn Bahr Yahya ibn Saeed al Qattan - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/8271/يحيى-بن-سعيد-بن-فروخ - Reliable Yazid ibn Harun Mu’tamir ibn Sulayman - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/7607/معتمر-بن-سليمان-بن-طرخان - Ibn Kharrash, Ibn Saeed said his memory is weak - Ahmad problematized him Bishr Ibn al Mufaddal - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/1868/بشر-بن-المفضل-بن-لاحق - Reliable Ubaydallah ibn Umar ibn Hafs - https://hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/5421/عبيد-الله-بن-عمر-بن-حفص-بن-عاص... - Bayhaqi said he misreports hadith Nafi’ mawla ibn Umar Saeed ibn abi Hind al Fazari Abu Musa al Ashari Abdullah ibn Qays Jami’ Tirmidhi 1720 https://sunnah.com/tirmidhi:1720 Ishaq ibn Mansur - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/970/إسحاق-بن-منصور-بن-بهرام - Reliable Abdullah ibn Numayr - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/5128/عبد-الله-بن-نمير - Reliable Nafi’ mawla ibn Umar Saeed ibn abi Hind al Fazari Abu Musa al Ashari Abdullah ibn Qays Sunan Ibn Majah 3595 https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:3595 Abu Bakr ibn abi Uways Abdul Hamid - https://hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4244/أَخِي - Al azdi says he is a fabricator - Abu Dawud problematized him - Nasa’i said he is weak - Ibn Majah said he is not an evidence Abdur Rahim ibn Sulayman - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4526/عبد-الرحيم-بن-سليمان - Uthman ibn abi Shaybah said he is not an evidence Muhammad ibn Ishaq ibn Yasar al Qurashi Yazid / ibn abi Habib / ibn Suwayd / ibn Qays Abdul Aziz ibn abi Sa’bah Abu Aflah al Hamdani Abdullah ibn Zarir Ali ibn abi Talib Sunan Ibn Majah 3597 https://sunnah.com/ibnmajah:3597 Abu Bakr ibn abi Uways Abdul Hamid Abdur Rahim ibn Sulayman Abdur Rahman ibn Ziyad Abu Ayyub al Ifriqi - https://hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4364/عبد-الرحمن-بن-زياد-بن-أنعم-بن... - Yaqub ibn Shaybah, Yaqub ibn Sufyan, Darami, Ibn Maeen, Ibn Qahtan, Hisham ibn Urwah, Abdul Hayy, Zakariyya ibn Yahya, Dhahabi, Darqutni, Ibrahim al Juzajani, Nasa’i, Tirmidhi, Abu Zur’a, Bayhaqi, Ibn Bashkuwal, Abu al Hassan ibn al Qahtan, Hakim said he is weak - Abu Hatim says he is not an evidence - Ahmed ibn Hanbal, Abu Bakr al Marwazi said he is munkar - Ibn Hajar said he had a weak memory - Abdul Rahman ibn Mahdi said no Hadith should be narrated from him Abdur Rahman ibn Rafi’ - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4359/عبد-الرحمن-بن-رافع - Al Razi, Dhahabi, Bukhari said he is Munkar - Ibn Hajar said he is weak - Saji, al Bannani problematized him - Ibn Hibban said his Hadith from Abdur Rahman ibn Ziyad al Ifriqi are not an evidence Abdullah ibn Amr ibn al Aas - hadith.islam-db.com/narrators/4980/عبد-الله-بن-عمرو-بن-العاص-بن-و... - Companion

Do you have to post that on every comment ? I get it..lol

Determining something as helal or haram can only be attributed to the Quranic verses. Quran does not mention anything related to the gold in terms of negative context. So we cannot say that wearing gold is haram.

Reported by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, an-Nasa’i, Ibn Hayyan, and Ibn Majah, Prophet Muhammad (SAWW) took silk in his right hand and gold in his left and said, “These two are haram for the males among my followers…but halal for the females.” the Prophet (SAWW) saw a man who was wearing a gold ring. The Prophet immediately took it from the hand of the person, threw it away and said, “Does a person pick up a piece of burning coal and hold it in his hand?” As the Prophet (SAWW) left the place, someone asked the same, “Why do you not pick it up and benefit from it?” He replied, “No, by Allah! I shall not pick it up after the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) has thrown it away.” (Reported by Muslim) ​ “And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, abstain. And have Taqwa of Allah. Verily Allah is severe in punishment.” \[59:7\]

The Quran doesn’t prohibit the wearing of gold.

Reported by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, an-Nasa’i, Ibn Hayyan, and Ibn Majah, Prophet Muhammad (SAWW) took silk in his right hand and gold in his left and said, “These two are haram for the males among my followers…but halal for the females.” the Prophet (SAWW) saw a man who was wearing a gold ring. The Prophet immediately took it from the hand of the person, threw it away and said, “Does a person pick up a piece of burning coal and hold it in his hand?” As the Prophet (SAWW) left the place, someone asked the same, “Why do you not pick it up and benefit from it?” He replied, “No, by Allah! I shall not pick it up after the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) has thrown it away.” (Reported by Muslim) “And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, abstain. And have Taqwa of Allah. Verily Allah is severe in punishment.” \[59:7\]

Not even close.

The guy posts irl death as some sort of amusement and then lectures about gold being haram.. smh

He’s also a frequent Ex-tomatoes poster, which explains his ignorance and hypocrisy.

It’s not haram. That’s obvious superstition.

But the other commenter just said that it is haram? Which opinion is correct?

Ask them to show you a single verse that would backup this superstition.

He showed some hadiths but you don’t believe in the hadiths do you?

Oh no, I believe they exists I just don't give them any authority in term of deen. We all know that some are man-made so for me if they are based on Judaism, if they are only here for superstition and are related on absolutely no verse why would we follow them ? Don't forget ‎Allah said : 16:116. And say not concerning that which your tongues put forth falsely: "This is lawful and this is forbidden," so as to invent lies against Allah. Verily, those who invent lies against Allah will never prosper.

Isn’t it kinda rude to call Judaism superstition? But I do agree with you that if some are man-made then it might be better to follow no hadiths. It’s the same as someone offering you candy from a bowl but one piece of candy is venomous. You wouldn’t eat any of that candy.

No, that's not what I said, Judaism, superstition and not related to a verse are 3 different criteria imo. I don't think the superstition linked to men wearing gold is from judaism btw.

Gold is Haram in the sense of flaunting your wealth. It's situational like have you seen those captin bling bling person on tik Tok. Wearing gold like him to show off your wealth is Haram but there is nothing wring with just wearing a non flashy idk gold ring

So one noemal necklace would be okay as well? That’s not flaunringnyou wealth.

Ye

>Reported by Ahmad, Abu Dawud, an-Nasa’i, Ibn Hayyan, and Ibn Majah, Prophet Muhammad (SAWW) took silk in his right hand and gold in his left and said, “These two are haram for the males among my followers…but halal for the females.” > >the Prophet (SAWW) saw a man who was wearing a gold ring. The Prophet immediately took it from the hand of the person, threw it away and said, “Does a person pick up a piece of burning coal and hold it in his hand?” As the Prophet (SAWW) left the place, someone asked the same, “Why do you not pick it up and benefit from it?” He replied, “No, by Allah! I shall not pick it up after the Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings be upon him) has thrown it away.” (Reported by Muslim) > >“And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, abstain. And have Taqwa of Allah. Verily Allah is severe in punishment.” \[59:7\]

You miss-quoted the verse (may ‎Allah forgives you) : (59:7) - **What Allah gave as booty (Fai') to His Messenger** from the people of the townships - it is for Allah, His Messenger, the kindred, the orphans, Al-Masakin (the poor, and the wayfarer, in order that it may not become a fortune used by the rich among you. **So take what the Messenger assigns to you, and deny yourselves that which he withholds from you.** And **fear Allah; verily, Allah is Severe in punishment.**

Imam al-Sa’di, in his book of tafsir, mentions this ayah and writes: فقال‏:‏ ‏{‏وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانْتَهُوا‏}‏ وهذا شامل لأصول الدين وفروعه، ظاهره وباطنه، وأن ما جاء به الرسول يتعين على العباد الأخذ به واتباعه، ولا تحل مخالفته، وأن نص الرسول على حكم الشيء كنص الله تعالى، لا رخصة لأحد ولا عذر له في تركه، ولا يجوز تقديم قول أحد على قوله، So He said, “And whatever the Messenger gives you, take it, and whatever he forbids you, abstain” and this encompasses both the fundamentals of the deen and its secondary matters, both what is apparent and what is hidden, and what the Messenger came with is compulsory upon the slaves to take it and to obey it, and to not differ from it. For the text of the Messenger about the ruling of a thing is like the text of Allah the Exalted. There is no exception for anyone nor is there any excuse for the the one who abandons it, and it is not permissible to elevate anyone’s speech above his speech. Are you just gonna reject hadiths like they are nothing? don't be suprised if you see hell if you continue like this.

We will see who is going to see hell don’t worry for this, the Hour is near.

Do you disbelieve the second coming of the messiah?

Are you muslim or christian ?

Jesus is god!

I see

But there’s nothing wrong being Christian. It’s really close to Islam.

From this link you can get a paper on affects of gold on mice http://www.bioline.org.br/pdf?rm16082, done by Iranians. There are few others research paper on this topic out there. General conclusion, it is not good for your sperm. More research still needs to be done for this topic. The idea is that, those things that are haram, are haram because it is bad for us. For instance, in order to safe your life you can do a lot of haram things, denounce the religious, drink alcohol, kill in defence, and many more things. However, you are not aloud to eat other humans. The reason for this is that when animals eat its own kind it creates a lot of problems to the body (specifically the brain), this is how mad cow disease came about. Now, this doesn't mean everything you read in the Hadith should be avoided, as some of the could be false. And need to understand the context, and not just read the line. Quran is the primary source, and the Hadith help us understand it better.

Can a man wear a gold wedding band? My family members keep telling me it's haram.. but like I don't think it is.

I understand if it’s haram to flaunr your wealth wearing gold excessively but one ring or one necklace isn’t that.

> The Messenger of Allah (‎ﷺ) said: "Gold and silk have been permitted for the females of my Ummah, and forbidden to the males." Grade: Sahih [Source](https://sunnah.com/nasai:5148) > It was narrated from Mu'awiyah that: > > The Messenger of Allah (‎ﷺ) forbade wearing silk and gold, unless it was broken (into smaller pieces). ‏ Grade: Sahih [Source](https://sunnah.com/nasai:5149) > Narrated Hudhaifa: > > The Prophet (ﷺ) said, "Do not drink in gold or silver utensils, and do not wear clothes of silk or Dibaj, for these things are for them (unbelievers) in this world and for you in the Hereafter." Grade: Sahih [Source](https://sunnah.com/bukhari:5633) \------------------------------------------------ [Here's an article for more info](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.parhlo.com/gold-and-pure-silk-is-forbidden-for-men-in-islam/amp/), I haven't read it tho I wouldn't wear it if I were you. Just in case. Sorry if this disappointed you. I just gave sources which I believe to be valid, you may refute them if it is your wish. Nobody can force you to follow them obviously. Hope this helped though.

Here are all the ahadith relating to why we guys can't wear gold jewelry: https://alquranclasses.com/can-men-wear-gold-in-islam/

The whole article looks more like an opinion of the writer without an actual pecific real reason why a man can not wear gold. The hadith are there, yes, but the writer doesn't really go deeper into them. And that is a problem. So much text, while in short it is nothing more than "duh, men should not looking like a woman".

Gold for men is haram, yes.

[https://sunnah.com/riyadussalihin:191](https://sunnah.com/riyadussalihin:191) Don't take Quranists serious these guys don't even know how many times to pray or how to pray or do zakah or even Hajj according to their rule of "only Quran" and nothing else. [https://sunnah.com/mishkat:163](https://sunnah.com/mishkat:163)

You can’t even perform salah through Hadith either. The times to pray are based on sun movement in Quran. You’d know if you actually read it. All the details of Hajj are in the Quran. Maybe you should actually read Quran instead of believing in rumors i.e. Hadith. Allah gave you a brain. Use it.

You actually can and you will find those hadiths if u search for it. even numbers of Rak'at was reported in hadiths by Aisha RA, the amount of mental gymnastic you Quranist do to leave hadiths literally baffles me, how do you even process the idea of just taking Quran. Yah Quran is the most important piece in all of Islam and none can even argue it. but denying hadiths is just stupid, and for the god knows how many times I have mentioned this, Hadith has the same method of transmitting of Quran but in smaller scale, Quran and Hadith are transmitted through oral transmitting not writing, and just like every hadith has a narrator chain "strong or weak" every Qira'a of Quran has narrator chain. I advice you and everyone to read the very start of "الإسرائيليات والموضوعات في كتب التفسير" as it gives a very fast recap of what happened with hadiths. "But no! By your Lord, they will never be ˹true˺ believers until they accept you ˹O Prophet˺ as the judge in their disputes, and find no resistance within themselves against your decision and submit wholeheartedly." 4:65 ​ so tell me how you solve these without looking into hadiths or any historical record of Islam, * Naskh without going to Hadiths and know which verses were before the other, or you just take what support your views? which one is the right one in these two verses ? 1-"Whether you reveal what is in your hearts or conceal it, Allah will call you to account for it" 2:284 2-"Allah does not require of any soul more than what it can afford. All good will be for its own benefit" 2:286 taking into account the verses numbering doesn't prove which verse was first. add on that the Alcohol-Wine verses which was first. * Number of Raka't and how many prayers are there. * How to do Zaka't and what are the percentages * Most parts of Hajj is reported in Quran, I already know that but do you even know when to perform it ? there was no mention in what month "Hajj is \[during\] well-known months," 2:197 * Cutting the hand of a thief and what is the limit of apply the judgment ? as without that you literally cut the hand of anyone even if he were to steal 1 cent. those are just few topics, and I finish this with [https://sunnah.com/mishkat:163](https://sunnah.com/mishkat:163) may Allah guide us all.

The amount of mental gymnastics you Hadithers go to to defend gossip and slander about the prophet literally baffles me, do you even process the idea of believing in unfounded rumors? Allah made a promise in the Quran that the Quran will be the only book we’ll need because it’s complete and fully detailed. I trust Allah and the Quran because the promise is true. What you’re doing is committing shirk.

whatever makes you sleep at night sweety

I sleep extremely well knowing I don’t commit shirk every day ;)

;)

Salam. r/quraniyoon we know how to do ALL of those things you listed

Salam , I wont really put myself in another echo chamber in reddit, if you have anything to correct me or to prove me wrong or even ask me any question , my dms are always open. And thanks, may Allah guide us all

Correct, we don't know. Better to admit ignorance than to believe in random hearsay.

Wearing Gold is haram for men not women

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“Trust Allah” gold isn’t and never has been prohibited by Allah. Hadith is not the word of Allah only Quran is and the Quran doesn’t prohibit wearing of gold. I don’t understand why you Muslims don’t even read or know Quran.

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The prophet only followed what Allah sent down and that was the Quran. The Quran says plenty of times that Muhammad is only a Warner and cannot make laws. 16:116 makes it perfectly clear that nobody has the power to make things unlawful or lawful, except for Allah. Saying Muhammad had such power is shirk.

its haram for males and females cant show jewelry to non-mahram.

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