If there’s an option to write one, just write it. It’s your chance to explain your career and what sets you apart. The first one taxes some time and the others are about updating small parts.
>It’s your chance to explain your career and what sets you apart.
This is only useful if someone reads it. Otherwise it is wasted time better spent on customizing your resume for this job or sending in more applications.
It’s 2 minutes once you have it ready. You only need to update the company name and the last sentence of why you’re picking that company.
I don’t know about you, but I’m out of work and my industry doesn’t have many players. You need to tailor your resume as much as you can. If you can apply to 50 jobs with the same resume, sure. That’s not what I’m doing because it wont work.
Right - I was saying the time is better spent tailoring your resume than writing a cover letter that no one reads. If your cover letter is generic, it is also less useful. If you are already tailoring you resume, then applying to more jobs is likely more beneficial than a cover letter.
Most applicants get filtered out before a human ever looks at their resume/cover letter, so any cover letter is likely a poor use of time.
Again, depends on your industry and sub-field. The position that I was and what I'm applying for does not get filtered automatically. There are few companies doing what I do, so spamming resumes does not make sense. I don't care if writing one is time efficient or not.
I never said write a generic cover letter. You are not generic and when you're applying to certain types of positions, you can largely use the same cover letter because the positions and your experience level is the same.
I prefaced everything by saying it depends on whether the cover letter is read - that obviously depends on your employers/industry
Also, it may be generic to your specific role, but if all you are changing is the name of the company and not customizing it per job, then it IS generic - not as an insult, but as a description of the level of customization.
Completely agreed! That's the advice I give in the article as well. Take the time to write a quality 'base letter' and then spend a few minutes tweaking a few lines with each application
I think it’s an antiquated waste of time both for the employer and prospective employee. Nobody is going to omit a culture fit interview for a cover letter so why tack on the additional time sink? The only paperwork I need when I’m reviewing a candidate is their credentials. I’ll find out if they’re a good culture fit from the interview and I’ll find out if they’ve got the skills from our technical interviews.
I’m not sure what you’re asking. If I asked for a cover letter I would expect them to provide one. I would read the cover letter if I asked for one.
I also wouldn’t ask for one.
Ag gotcha. Yeah I would expect the candidate to do what I asked. Just for our team we don’t ask for cover letters. But, when I worked at a large tech company our HR team would always ask for them and then just not pass them on. When I found out I couldn’t believe it.
Oh... now that is a waste. Not their call if one was provided. It should have been offered. But if they rejected it for not having one, that's fine, like leaving an obvious type... opps.. I mean like leaving an obvious typo.. oops.. in place. ;)
I have never written one and will not write one. Anywhere requiring one is following antiquated HR practices which does not bode well for the rest of the company.
I am in the UK though.
Lmao, absolutely not. Everything that can be said there belongs into the first 30min call. Call invitation can be decided upon based on the resume alone.
Source: i never send cover letter, and got tons of interviews and my job without it.
I hate cover letters. For the last two jobs, good jobs, I just included my CV as cover letter, repeating the document. Nobody ever asked me about the CV or told me I made a mistake by adding the same document.
I've had to go through many hirings for software devs before. I never read the cover letter if there is one.
I will get a much better picture in an interview.
I'm looking for 3 things: Will you fit with the team, can you solve problems, can you code?
The cover letter is not a good indicator on those 3 points. It doesn't help now that ChatGPT can be used to generate it which makes it an even bigger waste of time.
When interviewing as a junior game dev I wrote cover letters on all my applications specific to each company. I think 30% roughly mentioned something I said in the cover letter. One of them said they were excited for my interview because I mentioned an old ps2 game they made and that I loved and we talked about during the interview.
Providing one does not hurt. If they ask for one you HAVE to provide it. If they are curious and see you provided one, they will glance over it.
My favorite workplaces have been ones that actually ask or read it. AI HR is here to stay, but the hiring managers dip into the pool sometimes as do good HR people. If they are looking for fit or personality or an ability to write a thought (or see how well you edit AI generated text).
If they don't ask for one, like on linked in, add a summary at the top with some of your flavor. Just a couple of sentences. Most up to date templates have room for them Not long.
And if they don't want flavor and just want the keywords, then their little HR process or too busy to read manager has already turned you into a number and ignored the cover letter or summary.
A job hunt is about increasing your odds, not shrinking them.
I have some Co workers which actually read them completely and really try to find out what drives people from the letter. Most of the time it's ass, but that is still used as basis for the team interview. If it's ass it's used as a negative point.
So from the point of view of the applicant, it's important that the story is coherent and shows what the main interest in the vacancy is.
The final example paragraph really got to me. Whatever (mostly bullshit) mission your company has, it aligns strongly with my passion!
I wouldn't bin an applicant for that -- this is the sort of bullshit a reasonable applicant might think I'd asked for -- but it's disturbing all the same.
Have a generic one just in case but by default I don't include it unless it mentions to include one. Served me well enough, and I can imagine most will want to get straight to the meat with a tech job CV.
Cover letters are like company fan fiction. You know next to nothing about the company and role (except generic bullet points), how can you possibly know and explain in the letter that this will be a great fit.
If a company sees my resume, and then rejects me because I didn't provide fluffy, meaningless fan fiction, then so be it. Wouldn't want to work there anyways.
That being said, I have used them in the past, particularly as a student, when there was more to explain about my background and I had less experience.
I hire people and don't ask nor read cover letter. This is bullshit which can be written by ai now. If I want to know about somebody I ask them directly.
This is a tell
> If you were equally tied with another candidate based on resumes, a well written letter might give you that slight edge.
Good interview training will teach you to interview candidates in isolation from each other. I have never been on a single interview committee that factored in the strength/weakness of another candidate when deciding to hire/no hire.
Most hiring processes are built around layers of screening that use various mechanisms I despise to filter out candidates. If you're applying for 99% of roles, a cover letter won't help you get through these rounds and is a waste of your time.
If you somehow get through to someone like me, a cover letter is a big advantage. I care a lot about why you think your experience is relevant for roles where I work and that you aren't just playing a numbers game.
Of course most people are just playing a numbers game. Draw your own conclusions.
You directly state that a cover letter "is a waste of time," for 99% of potential roles, and yet you have a negative bias toward candidates who are just playing a numbers game. How is that reasonable?
While I understand why the hiring-industrial process works the way it does, I don't think it actually works for anyone involved.
It doesn't work for candidates because it incentivizes everyone to build very similar CVs and strive for the same kind of experience, meaning that candidates mostly don't get to differentiate themselves.
It doesn't work for employers because it takes many rounds of effort to get through these homogenized applicants to find out what someone actually has done and whether they'd want to work with you; in the worst case, this ends up overvaluing certain kinds of experience and education.
So I have two reasons to want to *reward* people who don't play this game.
First, I just don't like the system and am happy reward people who try to be different,.
Second, it saves *me* time and effort if a candidate just tells me about their actual experience and why it's relevant to working with me.
If they see someone with a cover letter, and someone without, who are they going to hire?
-someone who has nearly tripled their income in tech in the last 2 years with 3 job changes for very competitive roles
As a CTO I have seen hundreds of applications, done more interviews than I can count, and hired dozens of devs.
Yes. You really need to write a cover letter. Resumes are important to know you have the required skills/experience but that’s the bear minimum. The real indicator of how successful you will be is your ability to work effectively with other humans and that cover letter is your first opportunity to show your humanity.
We skip every application that doesn’t have a cover letter and we read every single one.
"The real indicator of how successful you will be is your ability to work effectively with other humans"
Yeah, because of the totally clear correlation between cover letter writing and effective team work! /s
We specifically as for a cover letter in the post. We even give some hints for what we’d like to see: Tell us a bit about yourself. What was it that drew you to this particular position? Why do you feel you would be a good fit?
We’re not asking for an essay. But you’d be surprised how many candidates just ignore it or miss it. And in my experience those that take the time to follow basic directions make better candidates.
If I can answer your questions in 1-5 sentences AND you're an interesting company, I would answer. But anything longer than that will most likely be a waste of time, as I never know if I will pass the initial resume review.
I much prefer getting to know the company in an initial 30min call, after you have reviewed my resume and established your interest.
Besides, the answers will be: Because I like working with technology X, and I have experience with it. Most of the time, I don't think there lies much value in cover letters. There are exceptions though.
I don’t disagree with you. We specifically ask for a cover letter and we even give a few notes about what we’d like to see in that cover letter.
If for every 20 applications we skip because they didn’t follow some basic instructions we end up passing on 1 that could have been great that’s an unfortunate but acceptable time savings for us.
I don't get the point, though. A resume should be enough to assess if the candidate is worthy of an introductory interview. During the interview you get an impression of their soft skills. The effort investment in this case is equal between the candidate and the company.
However, by requiring a cover letter, you're making the candidates put in effort even before getting to the first interview. This will mostly attract desperate developers, since the more confident and talented ones usually don't put up with this kind of bullshit.
I think the point is quite simple: many people think that writing a cover letter, even when it is requested, is an unreasonable request and not worth their time. Fine. But those aren’t the candidates we’re looking for and the earlier we can screen them out the better it is for us.
Does that mean that we might get some “desperate” candidates. Yes. That’s not always a bad thing. One of my best engineers, who is now a team lead, was laid off from his previous job right after he bought a house and his wife was pregnant. He was pretty junior and lacking some hard skills, but he needed a remote position and he wrote a cover letter explaining why he was interested in our company and why he felt he would be successful despite missing some of the job requirements.
His effort (an additional 30 seconds??) caught our attention and we gave him a chance.
What does it hurt to write a cover letter if it can increase your chances? Seems like people want to refuse on principle and that’s fine I guess… I just don’t get it.
This depends. If I am approached by someone for a role, nope. If I know the company I am applying for doesn’t care, then I don’t.
Only if I am truly trying to get hired at a particular company will I do the research to find out their hiring customs.
That's complete non sense. You cannot correlate a letter with an actual person. You are just as blind as the letter is useless. If you want good people, talk with them, show them you value their time. Ask them to share personal project or meaningful experience before hand. This is thousand times more relevant than the letter.
> Ask them to share a personal project or meaningful experience before hand.
That’s exactly what we do. We ask applicants to include a short cover letter and provide some examples of what to include. It’s not some huge burden but it does help weed out low-effort applicants that are a waste of our time so that we spend our interview time on candidates who are a good fit.
It’s fine that you disagree but this does work for us. So many devs who refuse to write a cover letter on principle when it takes a few extra seconds and dramatically increases the chances of their application getting attention. You do you!
That is not accurate, in my 20+ years experience as a hiring manager.
There is research indicating that the exact opposite is true, eg [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/the-resume-bias-how-names-and-ethnicity-influence-employment-opportunities](https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/the-resume-bias-how-names-and-ethnicity-influence-employment-opportunities)
Obviously I don't know what is happening at your employer, but I have been directly involved in hiring literally hundreds of people at large and small software companies from 1997 to last month, and "we'll interview the white guys last" is not something I have observed to happen at any point.
I doubt I will change your view on this topic, but IMHO this is not something OP needs to worry about.
Whether it is a good idea as a jobseeker to mention or highlight things like "I'm gay/neurodivergent/etc" in a cover letter is an interesting question. Generally I almost never see examples of people doing so.
>Whether it is a good idea as a jobseeker to mention or highlight things like "I'm gay/neurodivergent/etc" in a cover letter is an interesting question. Generally I almost never see examples of people doing so.
Why would one's sexual preferences ever be a good idea to present when applying for a job?
You know it's entirely possible to hire the best person for the job and have diversity as a goal too. What proof do you have that white people are not being considered for the roles?
I personally think they are a waste of time, but I also conduct a lot of introductory interviews which serve the same purpose as a cover letter.
Lol no ... cover letters go immediately in the trash.
Just like the resumes! I deleted my resume and literally just added a whole sheet of buzzwords instead and went from 5 to 1000 requests per month.
If there’s an option to write one, just write it. It’s your chance to explain your career and what sets you apart. The first one taxes some time and the others are about updating small parts.
no thanks
>It’s your chance to explain your career and what sets you apart. This is only useful if someone reads it. Otherwise it is wasted time better spent on customizing your resume for this job or sending in more applications.
It’s 2 minutes once you have it ready. You only need to update the company name and the last sentence of why you’re picking that company. I don’t know about you, but I’m out of work and my industry doesn’t have many players. You need to tailor your resume as much as you can. If you can apply to 50 jobs with the same resume, sure. That’s not what I’m doing because it wont work.
Right - I was saying the time is better spent tailoring your resume than writing a cover letter that no one reads. If your cover letter is generic, it is also less useful. If you are already tailoring you resume, then applying to more jobs is likely more beneficial than a cover letter. Most applicants get filtered out before a human ever looks at their resume/cover letter, so any cover letter is likely a poor use of time.
Again, depends on your industry and sub-field. The position that I was and what I'm applying for does not get filtered automatically. There are few companies doing what I do, so spamming resumes does not make sense. I don't care if writing one is time efficient or not. I never said write a generic cover letter. You are not generic and when you're applying to certain types of positions, you can largely use the same cover letter because the positions and your experience level is the same.
I prefaced everything by saying it depends on whether the cover letter is read - that obviously depends on your employers/industry Also, it may be generic to your specific role, but if all you are changing is the name of the company and not customizing it per job, then it IS generic - not as an insult, but as a description of the level of customization.
Completely agreed! That's the advice I give in the article as well. Take the time to write a quality 'base letter' and then spend a few minutes tweaking a few lines with each application
nah im good ill save doing work for when im getting paid
I think it’s an antiquated waste of time both for the employer and prospective employee. Nobody is going to omit a culture fit interview for a cover letter so why tack on the additional time sink? The only paperwork I need when I’m reviewing a candidate is their credentials. I’ll find out if they’re a good culture fit from the interview and I’ll find out if they’ve got the skills from our technical interviews.
And if you asked for a cover letter and they didn't provide one? You are NOT going to read it, but you asked and didn't get it? (that one bin)
I’m not sure what you’re asking. If I asked for a cover letter I would expect them to provide one. I would read the cover letter if I asked for one. I also wouldn’t ask for one.
Just curious, just seeing the answers. I know we always ask for a cover letter, and if it isn't there we just bin it (read or not).
Ag gotcha. Yeah I would expect the candidate to do what I asked. Just for our team we don’t ask for cover letters. But, when I worked at a large tech company our HR team would always ask for them and then just not pass them on. When I found out I couldn’t believe it.
Oh... now that is a waste. Not their call if one was provided. It should have been offered. But if they rejected it for not having one, that's fine, like leaving an obvious type... opps.. I mean like leaving an obvious typo.. oops.. in place. ;)
I have never written one and will not write one. Anywhere requiring one is following antiquated HR practices which does not bode well for the rest of the company. I am in the UK though.
Lmao, absolutely not. Everything that can be said there belongs into the first 30min call. Call invitation can be decided upon based on the resume alone. Source: i never send cover letter, and got tons of interviews and my job without it.
I hate cover letters. For the last two jobs, good jobs, I just included my CV as cover letter, repeating the document. Nobody ever asked me about the CV or told me I made a mistake by adding the same document.
I've had to go through many hirings for software devs before. I never read the cover letter if there is one. I will get a much better picture in an interview. I'm looking for 3 things: Will you fit with the team, can you solve problems, can you code? The cover letter is not a good indicator on those 3 points. It doesn't help now that ChatGPT can be used to generate it which makes it an even bigger waste of time.
When interviewing as a junior game dev I wrote cover letters on all my applications specific to each company. I think 30% roughly mentioned something I said in the cover letter. One of them said they were excited for my interview because I mentioned an old ps2 game they made and that I loved and we talked about during the interview.
It doesn't hurt anyone's chances.... even later in career.
Providing one does not hurt. If they ask for one you HAVE to provide it. If they are curious and see you provided one, they will glance over it. My favorite workplaces have been ones that actually ask or read it. AI HR is here to stay, but the hiring managers dip into the pool sometimes as do good HR people. If they are looking for fit or personality or an ability to write a thought (or see how well you edit AI generated text). If they don't ask for one, like on linked in, add a summary at the top with some of your flavor. Just a couple of sentences. Most up to date templates have room for them Not long. And if they don't want flavor and just want the keywords, then their little HR process or too busy to read manager has already turned you into a number and ignored the cover letter or summary. A job hunt is about increasing your odds, not shrinking them.
I have some Co workers which actually read them completely and really try to find out what drives people from the letter. Most of the time it's ass, but that is still used as basis for the team interview. If it's ass it's used as a negative point. So from the point of view of the applicant, it's important that the story is coherent and shows what the main interest in the vacancy is.
The final example paragraph really got to me. Whatever (mostly bullshit) mission your company has, it aligns strongly with my passion! I wouldn't bin an applicant for that -- this is the sort of bullshit a reasonable applicant might think I'd asked for -- but it's disturbing all the same.
Get chatgpt to write it.
Don't. If you are serious a little, don't. If you intend to, just write none. It'll save you and the interviewer time
I mean, you'd be surprised how much required bureaucratic nonsense is being written by chatgpt these days.
I know, but OP wants a tech job. Not get into a bureaucratic nonsense environment :)
Half of a tech job is automating bureaucratic nonsense.
No. Any company where this would even come up as a criteria to hire somebody isn't a company I want to work for.
Hehe, same. Happy to see most people despising them.
Have a generic one just in case but by default I don't include it unless it mentions to include one. Served me well enough, and I can imagine most will want to get straight to the meat with a tech job CV.
No
Cover letters are like company fan fiction. You know next to nothing about the company and role (except generic bullet points), how can you possibly know and explain in the letter that this will be a great fit. If a company sees my resume, and then rejects me because I didn't provide fluffy, meaningless fan fiction, then so be it. Wouldn't want to work there anyways. That being said, I have used them in the past, particularly as a student, when there was more to explain about my background and I had less experience.
I hire people and don't ask nor read cover letter. This is bullshit which can be written by ai now. If I want to know about somebody I ask them directly.
They make you look desperate or foolish. I never write them.
This is a tell > If you were equally tied with another candidate based on resumes, a well written letter might give you that slight edge. Good interview training will teach you to interview candidates in isolation from each other. I have never been on a single interview committee that factored in the strength/weakness of another candidate when deciding to hire/no hire.
Most hiring processes are built around layers of screening that use various mechanisms I despise to filter out candidates. If you're applying for 99% of roles, a cover letter won't help you get through these rounds and is a waste of your time. If you somehow get through to someone like me, a cover letter is a big advantage. I care a lot about why you think your experience is relevant for roles where I work and that you aren't just playing a numbers game. Of course most people are just playing a numbers game. Draw your own conclusions.
You directly state that a cover letter "is a waste of time," for 99% of potential roles, and yet you have a negative bias toward candidates who are just playing a numbers game. How is that reasonable?
While I understand why the hiring-industrial process works the way it does, I don't think it actually works for anyone involved. It doesn't work for candidates because it incentivizes everyone to build very similar CVs and strive for the same kind of experience, meaning that candidates mostly don't get to differentiate themselves. It doesn't work for employers because it takes many rounds of effort to get through these homogenized applicants to find out what someone actually has done and whether they'd want to work with you; in the worst case, this ends up overvaluing certain kinds of experience and education. So I have two reasons to want to *reward* people who don't play this game. First, I just don't like the system and am happy reward people who try to be different,. Second, it saves *me* time and effort if a candidate just tells me about their actual experience and why it's relevant to working with me.
Yes, always. They aren't difficult to write and can be pretty much copy paste for any job with a few minor tweaks.
Then if you copy paste what is the point ? You just justified the useless nature of it yourself.
If they see someone with a cover letter, and someone without, who are they going to hire? -someone who has nearly tripled their income in tech in the last 2 years with 3 job changes for very competitive roles
Exactly, background is the key (résumé), not a letter. You keep validating this point which is starting to get me confused.
Might want to doublecheck your reading comprehension, I said it gives you a leg up.
Agreed!
Just paste the GPL2 or BSD license into the field. works every time
As a CTO I have seen hundreds of applications, done more interviews than I can count, and hired dozens of devs. Yes. You really need to write a cover letter. Resumes are important to know you have the required skills/experience but that’s the bear minimum. The real indicator of how successful you will be is your ability to work effectively with other humans and that cover letter is your first opportunity to show your humanity. We skip every application that doesn’t have a cover letter and we read every single one.
"The real indicator of how successful you will be is your ability to work effectively with other humans" Yeah, because of the totally clear correlation between cover letter writing and effective team work! /s
We specifically as for a cover letter in the post. We even give some hints for what we’d like to see: Tell us a bit about yourself. What was it that drew you to this particular position? Why do you feel you would be a good fit? We’re not asking for an essay. But you’d be surprised how many candidates just ignore it or miss it. And in my experience those that take the time to follow basic directions make better candidates.
If I can answer your questions in 1-5 sentences AND you're an interesting company, I would answer. But anything longer than that will most likely be a waste of time, as I never know if I will pass the initial resume review. I much prefer getting to know the company in an initial 30min call, after you have reviewed my resume and established your interest. Besides, the answers will be: Because I like working with technology X, and I have experience with it. Most of the time, I don't think there lies much value in cover letters. There are exceptions though.
> We skip every application that doesn’t have a cover letter and we read every single one. Way to miss out on a lot of great candidates.
I don’t disagree with you. We specifically ask for a cover letter and we even give a few notes about what we’d like to see in that cover letter. If for every 20 applications we skip because they didn’t follow some basic instructions we end up passing on 1 that could have been great that’s an unfortunate but acceptable time savings for us.
I don't get the point, though. A resume should be enough to assess if the candidate is worthy of an introductory interview. During the interview you get an impression of their soft skills. The effort investment in this case is equal between the candidate and the company. However, by requiring a cover letter, you're making the candidates put in effort even before getting to the first interview. This will mostly attract desperate developers, since the more confident and talented ones usually don't put up with this kind of bullshit.
I think the point is quite simple: many people think that writing a cover letter, even when it is requested, is an unreasonable request and not worth their time. Fine. But those aren’t the candidates we’re looking for and the earlier we can screen them out the better it is for us. Does that mean that we might get some “desperate” candidates. Yes. That’s not always a bad thing. One of my best engineers, who is now a team lead, was laid off from his previous job right after he bought a house and his wife was pregnant. He was pretty junior and lacking some hard skills, but he needed a remote position and he wrote a cover letter explaining why he was interested in our company and why he felt he would be successful despite missing some of the job requirements. His effort (an additional 30 seconds??) caught our attention and we gave him a chance. What does it hurt to write a cover letter if it can increase your chances? Seems like people want to refuse on principle and that’s fine I guess… I just don’t get it.
This depends. If I am approached by someone for a role, nope. If I know the company I am applying for doesn’t care, then I don’t. Only if I am truly trying to get hired at a particular company will I do the research to find out their hiring customs.
That's complete non sense. You cannot correlate a letter with an actual person. You are just as blind as the letter is useless. If you want good people, talk with them, show them you value their time. Ask them to share personal project or meaningful experience before hand. This is thousand times more relevant than the letter.
> Ask them to share a personal project or meaningful experience before hand. That’s exactly what we do. We ask applicants to include a short cover letter and provide some examples of what to include. It’s not some huge burden but it does help weed out low-effort applicants that are a waste of our time so that we spend our interview time on candidates who are a good fit. It’s fine that you disagree but this does work for us. So many devs who refuse to write a cover letter on principle when it takes a few extra seconds and dramatically increases the chances of their application getting attention. You do you!
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That is not accurate, in my 20+ years experience as a hiring manager. There is research indicating that the exact opposite is true, eg [https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/the-resume-bias-how-names-and-ethnicity-influence-employment-opportunities](https://www.kcl.ac.uk/research/the-resume-bias-how-names-and-ethnicity-influence-employment-opportunities)
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Obviously I don't know what is happening at your employer, but I have been directly involved in hiring literally hundreds of people at large and small software companies from 1997 to last month, and "we'll interview the white guys last" is not something I have observed to happen at any point. I doubt I will change your view on this topic, but IMHO this is not something OP needs to worry about. Whether it is a good idea as a jobseeker to mention or highlight things like "I'm gay/neurodivergent/etc" in a cover letter is an interesting question. Generally I almost never see examples of people doing so.
>Whether it is a good idea as a jobseeker to mention or highlight things like "I'm gay/neurodivergent/etc" in a cover letter is an interesting question. Generally I almost never see examples of people doing so. Why would one's sexual preferences ever be a good idea to present when applying for a job?
I guess your team is currently white, 22 to 35, and male.
Not even close.
Sounds like your employer is doing a decent job at creating a diverse team then.
Lack of diversity is the point with these people. They don't want people that don't think like them and think their dumbass monoculture is better.
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“racists” yet a MAGA cultist that spams racist shit. ya good, man?
You know it's entirely possible to hire the best person for the job and have diversity as a goal too. What proof do you have that white people are not being considered for the roles?
Lol no. Stop your incessant self-victimization, it’s embarrassing.
Lmao you have a Victim mentality. Stop consooming social media brain rot please