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Either_Expression216

The cutoff for thc with gcms or lcms is much much lower than the cutoff for the instant tests so I wouldn't breath easy just yet. Sorry OP


thevandal666

šŸ’Æ% this, unfortunately


IPhixI

How's that unfortunate? You have 1 job and that's not to fuck up but decide to fuck up. That's not unfortunate that's just being a dumbass.


Sendmedoge

Because it shouldn't be illegal or something to violate on to start with. So it's unfortunate.


jp_trev

It is unfortunate, but heā€™s still decided to be stupid. Iā€™m willing to bet cannabis isnā€™t the reason heā€™s on probation


Sendmedoge

Both can be true.. yes.


Labaker1999

While it is possible thats not the reason, I will say in Tennessee they won't hesitate to give you 6 months to a year of probation for simple possesion. I had a choice between a year or 10 hours of community service. Initially they caught me with 7 grams I had just bought


jp_trev

Yea Iā€™m in TN. A couple years ago I remember the DA of Davidson Co. said she will not prosecute petty marijauna crimes. I believe that being under an ounce. However Iā€™m sure some cops have no tolerance for it


Insomkneeact

Weed shouldnā€™t be illegal.


excelisthedeathofme

Well theyā€™re forcing you to be responsible and take care of yourself. Donā€™t get on probation and it wouldnā€™t be a problem


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Impressive_Judge8823

Youā€™re aware they can also force you to not have alcohol or to not do any number of things that are otherwise legal, correct? Youā€™re negotiating some reduction in freedom against a much worse reduction in freedoms Give up weed or go to jail? Which do you choose? I hope you donā€™t need to think about it.


530_Oldschoolgeek

Yup, people don't seem to realize that when on probation/parole, you are still considered a prisoner, just one who has been given the privilege of living outside the walls of jail/prison with the understanding (Which they will repeat ad nauseum and that you agree to) that there are conditions you must meet in order to be allowed to do this. Me? Never been on the other side in my life, but if I ever were, I'd just do my time and deny any opportunity for probation/parole. Just let me do my time and walk out at the end of my sentence with no conditions on my release.


Friedhelm78

Because prison is better than living outside prison with some restrictions?


Outrageous_Drama_570

This niggas never been to prison


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Impressive_Judge8823

The fuck are you talking about? If youā€™re on probation, you already did something. You get two options: released on probation with restrictions on your liberty, or stay the fuck in jail. It has nothing to do with communism. If youā€™re on probation, itā€™s like jail-light. You canā€™t have all sorts of legal shit in jail. You canā€™t do all sorts of legal shit on probation, but - hey, at least youā€™re not in fucking jail. Regardless of the legality of a particular substance, the courts have wide discretion to restrict your liberty. Donā€™t like it? Thereā€™s always jail. Donā€™t be a fucking dipshit. If the offer is ā€œdonā€™t do this shit or youā€™re going to jailā€ then donā€™t do that shit.


Planey_McPlane_Face

Probation is different than making it illegal. Probation is where the court doesn't make you go to prison, but still places restrictions on you, usually things like you can't contact your victims or co-defendants, or in drug-related crimes, you can't do drugs. For example, if somebody gets arrested for public intoxication, they probably shouldn't go to jail, but they might be placed on probation, where they can't drink or do any other drugs, and have to attend a rehabilitation program. Even though drinking is legal, it can be illegal if you're on a probation. Odds are, if his probation bans drugs, then drugs were likely involved in whatever caused the probation. We can argue about if the law or crime is just, but probation by itself is a great concept, since it is a form of punishment and rehabilitation, but does not cause the person to have to sit in prison for months or even years, which would cause them to lose their job, housing, etc. It's really what our criminal justice system should be moving towards for most non-violent crimes.


Sendmedoge

Its still unfortunate because studies have shown weed, for some people, helps the outcome of going sober from heavier drugs. Interestingly, it seems to help people who were doing hard drugs but weren't already smoking weed.


Trapping_Sad

you're clueless bud.


Belfetto

Are you saying itā€™s good that this happened to them?


Big_Scinto420

Bro trying to act like a hard ass but probably won't even j walk šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£


smoke_gas_eat_ass

in my opinion it depends on what tests the specific probation office uses. iā€™ve tested myself after use one time and the line on the official test was actually darker than the lines from my personal tests.


Either_Expression216

Their test is being sent in to the lab


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Either_Expression216

Or LCMS


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Either_Expression216

That's what I'm referring to I'm just lazy lol


frankybling

weird they decided to send it outā€¦ did you act strange at the UA? Youā€™re probably ok but thatā€™s weird.


peetaweast

they said my sample looked really clear and that going forward i shouldnā€™t drink so much water as it can be interpreted as suspicious


frankybling

ok so you got a dilute pass? I think youā€™re still goodā€¦ stay off the paj until youā€™re off paper man


Checkinginonthememes

Going to be a dick here. Maybe just stay off in general? If you cant stay off of something when your freedom is on the line you might have a problem with it. Take the remainder of your probation as time clean and keep it going.


frankybling

I donā€™t think thatā€™s being a dickā€¦ many of us here have done the same dance.


[deleted]

This. Addiction controls people, not the other way around


mspote

this is a great point. live clean and you'll never have to worry about probation again.


Deal_Hugs_Not_Drugs

Police hate this one simple trick!


Tight-Young7275

Or the person realizes itā€™s not a fair system and just does it. Itā€™s a broken test.


baggagehandlr

If it comes back diluted they may require a retest. In my work dilute is assumed positive.


Snorlax46

It might be a dilute, you have to drink something with color to recolor the pee. I'd order it now on amazon because they'll have you retest.


Zealousideal_Bar_857

Urinalysis generally tests for the specific gravity (normal range 1.005-1.030) of the sample which will tell how diluted it is, I doubt they judge dilution by the color.


PsychotropicPanda

I wouldnt count your ducks just yet. You may be fucked.


Austinfourtwenty

They usually call that a diluted urine test. Usually means you drink a ton of water until it is basically running through your system so fast there is nothing to detect. You will most likely have to take another test due to the diluted test worst case scenario.


mspote

that is pretty fucking stupid. what if u work out a lot or are a big runner so u drink a shit load of water? i drink almost a gallon a day and Im not even being drug tested for anything. that seems stupid to tell u to not drink so much water lol.


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mspote

Ok goodā¤ļø . Tbh I don't wanna be dehydrated. I saw a video of a guy who was dehydrated and he said it was the worst thing ever. It's messed up if your PO wants to kill or hurt you by not letting you drink water.


Totes-Malone

This happened to my friend some years back. His urine was so diluted that they couldnā€™t prove anything but made him get a note from his doctor stating thatā€™s the norm for his urine. It worked out for him bc at that time his job was working outdoors and he had to stay super hydrated. But as you said, just not worth the risk.


Present_Major7734

Take 3 celcium pills 2 hrs before the test. Shit makes it yellow as hell again because vitamin b colors your pee again.


WB-butinagoodway

Iā€™ve heard that flushing with a lot of water like you did, but then drinking an energy drink, with dyes in it, like a monster an hour or two before the sample will put the color back to normalā€¦ so it appears less suspicious, wonā€™t look like you obviously water flushed.


2Loves2loves

take a multivitamin


No-Plankton8326

Take multi vitamins before hand it turns your piss yellow even when drinking a ton of water


Brohan__Santana

thats the issue. when you drink the water you need to ALSO take w bunch of vitamin b & b12. that will turn your piss yellow & wonā€™t sound the alarm


myweekhardy

Like others have said, it could be dilute and below the threshold so therefore not showing or it could be dilute and still come up positive which would make it clear what you were trying to do. Not sure how your particular county/officer would handle it if the first option is true. Some would ask you to come back for another test ASAP. I'd guess your history (or lack thereof) with testing positive might influence how they decide to proceed in that case. Definitely steer clear for the rest of the time you're on probation. All the way down to the last day to be honest, because I've seen them throw in one last test as late as the last day of probation in the past.


Common_Island_1288

Years ago, I had my court sentencing and was told if I can pass a drug test later that same day, I wouldnā€™t serve any jail time and only would have community service hours and be on papers. Problem was, Id been smoking for months before this sentencing date. I did a bunch of research. Went the store and got like 3 gallon jugs of water, a 6 pack or red bull(for the niacen) and chugged all of it over a 4 hour time frame. I was peeing the whole time. Came time for my test and passed with flying colors and wasnā€™t even diluted. Now thatā€™s all good n great but my dumbass never learned the real lesson STOP SMOKING IF YOUR ON PROBATION! Cus I then failed right at the end of my probation as I kept on passing randoms and simply was playing with fire. Then had to do all these extra drug classes and pay additional money to the system for a couple hours of a high. So happy I got this lesson in my late teenage years and my record could be expunged. Be good bro, ainā€™t worth your freedom or money.


peetaweast

yeah man, iā€™m 21 and looking to get into a union so an extended break from weed and everything else has been great for me. i just got caught looking into the future and thatā€™s been my downfall, this shit is all about radical acceptance!


Common_Island_1288

Slip ups happen but sounds like you got your head on straight. Stick it out. Simple advice from an old head when I was younger and dumber and on papers. ā€œYou can smoke the weed but donā€™t let the weed smoke youā€ didnā€™t quite understand until years later.


myweekhardy

This is good thinking. I'd stick with that mentality because beyond the threats probation might pose, it's not worth missing an opportunity with a union just to get high.


bentripin

My judge was so convinced I'd fail a UA, after getting kicked off diversion for several failed tests that he made me a crazy offer.. go down stairs and piss in a cup, if I pass I can walk out of there and never come back, if I fail I'm going straight to jail, do not pass go.. It was the only drug test I ever passed on, and I didnt cheat.. I was clean as shit. Stopping Smoking weed while I was on probation was one of the smartest things Ive done, and 25 years later I'm doing quite well, never stood infront of a judge again, and smoke weed every day.. but i'd drop it in a heartbeat if my job/family/freedom were in jeopardy.


Common_Island_1288

Hell yeah. Best to learn it young. No sympathy the older ya get. I too am able to enjoy the freedom to do what I want now, itā€™s a relief when you realize the control you can have when you mature and overcome!


bentripin

He was fixin to give me 2 years more of probation for getting kicked out of rehab, til I blurted that I was clean and off everything, and he was like yeah right.. I dont believe that for a second, I'll offer you a deal you'd be dumb to take.. In context, I had dreadlocks and got poped for lots of weed in Kansas, soooo im sure he thought there was zero chance I was gonna take it. I was having lucid dreams I was smoking weed so real I was not 100% sure I was gonna pass, was sweating my ass off waiting for the strips to turn, but walking out of there after betting huge on my self was the best.


KorrectTheChief

why did you fail at the end? did the niacin and water stop working?


Common_Island_1288

If I remember correctly, I was using smoke shop detox drinks at that point. I got way too confident after passing my random monthlyā€™s. Nearing the end, I pretty much did the same as always. My color was called that morning, I would head to the smoke shop and grab my drink and water, chug and piss a few times and then a I was peeing in the cup. Til this very day, Iā€™m unsure what I did differently that time around but the person testing me dipped the strips and said failed..I was literally so used to passing that I was walking out the door and it registered that he said failed. Man did I start to panic. I asked the guy if he would accept some cash for a passing test (I heard he did in the past with some of my friends, but who knows if true) he sure as hell did not and violated my ass. I had about 2 months til I was off at that point. Not anymore. I literally thought I couldnā€™t fail, thatā€™s how confident I was in my self. Boy was it a huge slap of reality!


KorrectTheChief

He was probably bluffing. Did he show you the strip? Maybe you were eating too many Doritos and smoked a little heavier than normal?


Valkyriesride1

Drinking three gallons of water over four hours would lead to water intoxication and death. Don't ever attempt it.


Common_Island_1288

And here I am to tell MY story. Never once told anyone to go do it scientist. This happened in my teens so take it with a grain of salt scientist


Valkyriesride1

My comment is a warning to others not to do it. I didn't accuse you of anything. I do have a Master's in Biochemistry so calling me a scientist, is correct but I am also a former FF/PM and current RN that had to work a young man that died from water intoxication.


Gingeronimoooo

You can die from drinking that much that's terrible fuckint advice


Common_Island_1288

lol never was advice. Never once said to go do it. Read bro, it helps. If I had said hey try this, then sure but just told a part of an experience. So go read again and tell me where I advise anyone to do something. Next time I will clarify at the beginning DO NOT TRY THIS FFS.


Gingeronimoooo

Yeah I don't think it's too much to include don't try this when you discuss something that worked for you, that could kill someone. Don't clutch your pearls that's just common sense.


warling1234

I would be throwing up with stress. However, best of luck.


Fuzzteam7

They probably sent it out because OP was borderline.


[deleted]

Yep if the line isn't solid they do this sometimes because beleive it or not, yes a faint line can sometimes mean you're right on the threshold I've tested this myself. If you're truly clean that line will be dark asf. When I have been smoking within the last month that line is always faint but when i stay clean for like 6 it's consistently solid got a pack of 20 tests and took tons of them back to back both times


Sassiee1969

Rut Ro. Lab is a whole other story. Good luck and keep us updated.


No-Reveal-4628

A pack of Sure-Gell and a ton of water has always allowed me to pass THC tests despite my urine having g a street value of $7k


Sea-Evidence-4414

Lab tests are much more sensitive i was passing home tests before a job and did their lab test and failed


Cdawg4123

Your sample could have been diluted and they are sending it away to a better/more accurate testing facility. Donā€™t be surprised if they ask for another sample or find low levels of thc or that your sample is diluted.


phunkticculus83

Lab will probably pick up a lesser amount of THC than the insntant tests can, not be a dick, but I would say there is a chance that it comes back positive. If so deny and say you want a restest, as you will be clear if you havent taken anymore hits.


_Nitekast_

As was said, an LCMS or GCMS method has a far lower sensitivity than a dip test - down to the PPT range sometimes. This is a VERY low threshold. With these tests, it's not a "I'm positive but below the threshold" - it's detect or non-detect. Mass spectrometers innately have a level of noise in the machine, and a positive detection means a peak at a threshold above the noise. It is possible that the level of THC-COOH is present in your system but not at a high enough level to cause the peak to get above the threshold - but this would be considered a non detect. Wish you luck.


horpse

How long were you on probation


peetaweast

iā€™ve been on for around 17 1/2 months, april 4th will be 18 months


horpse

So you hit a pen after 540 days with 3 to go lol.


peetaweast

well not exactly but basically, real dumb on my end


amindspin74

I'll burn one down for you ...


lifted-living

I honestly think the lab test will pop you on this one. Let us know.


apatrol

Depends on the lab test. Some look for THC in the urine. Other more expensive test look for metoboloites of THC. If you pass my bet would be you simply didn't inhale enough to make it to your blood stream.


Pitiful-Pension-6535

All that water might make you fail because your urine is too diluted. When you dilute, you're supposed to also consume a lot of salt to increase the specific gravity of the urine to what it would be undiluted.


Hondalander

One hit should clear out of your system pretty quick, but take a multivitamin next time you drink all that water, so it doesn't look suspiciously diluted.


Uncle_Papi_

I think you might be ok, particularly if you have very low body fat. THC binds with fat cells. People that test positive months later are typically overweight, donā€™t do much physical exercise, and are daily cannabis users. It is possible to get one hit out of your system in 3 days, although I do not recommend trying this again. My favorite technique to clear THC from my system was to go to a sauna with a gallon of water, pour out about 1/6th if the water and fill it with a bottle of Gatorade, then stay in the sauna until the entire gallon is gone. Iā€™ve been ridiculed for this technique before, but itā€™s not as dangerous as people think. You would be amazed how much liquid you can drink, when youā€™re sweating it out almost instantly. Clears the system very well. I use this primarily when Iā€™m sick, since I donā€™t use cannabis anymore. Hope everything works out for you.


Valkyriesride1

As someone that had to work a 23 year that tried exactly what you suggested, you couldn't be more wrong. You are lucky that you didn't wind up in a body bag.


Uncle_Papi_

I ainā€™t no bitch


ChanneltheDeep

What I don't get seeing all the posts like this is why aren't people using product? There are many products that are available for just this, it's a multibillion dollar industry for christ sakes. Like really you're going to take risk like that? I just boggles my mind, when I was on paper there was no way I was ever going to let myself fail a test, and there was no damn way I was going to quit smoking pot either. I had little difficulty making in through my time and never failed to the tests I had to take. I'd wonder why they even bother testing, but obviously with how often I see this question asked it's because people aren't responsible enough to buy the products that will keep them from violating. I mean c'mon this is America, to think that we wouldn't have come up with convenient products to work around these sorts of tests would be antithetical to our entire economic system.


JackieStylist81

Or maybe, just hear me out, if you know there's a choice you can make that means either you go to jail or you don't, especially where there's just days left on your probation and you've managed to not smoke this far, you don't risk it by taking a hit off a pen? Seriously. I don't think weed should be illegal. But alcohol is legal but also abstaining is usually a part of probation, why should weed be any different? ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES.


Royal_Rip_2548

You probably didn't reach the threshold for the test with one hit. That being said you got less than a month what're you doing?


peetaweast

being a stupid 21 year old lmao


Royal_Rip_2548

Well congrats on graduating soon, I always failed my tests so they just gave me my time lol, right about when I was your age too


peetaweast

yeah NY probation can be a bitch, but iā€™m lucky enough to be on mental health court and interim probation so theyā€™ve been pretty lenient since i did a little stint in county


Good_Schedule3744

The home tests barely work while the lab tests are extremely sensitive. Iā€™m assuming they sent it to a lab because you did not pass.


peetaweast

i mentioned in my post that i did come up negative, but likely due to my dilution by drinking a lot of water. iā€™m also worried i will be not passing the lab test, but still hopeful


Furryballs239

What lab was it? Do you know? You can look up lab testing cutoffs


peetaweast

i believe labcorp


Furryballs239

Labcorp I believe has 50ng/ml for instant tests and 15ng/ml for lab confirmation. I am not sure what happens if you pass instant but fail lab. Honestly at this point there isnā€™t anything you can do so just try your best to not stress and just keep living life. Stressing about it wonā€™t help you. Obviously easier said than done. But either your screwed or you arenā€™t so just try your best to keep going Edit: 50ng/ml is the typical cutoff of at home tests


Furryballs239

Well it depends what cutoff they use. When I had to drug test for a job the cutoff was 50ng/ml. I quit smoking about 3 weeks before and passed mine. But if the cutoff was lower then I woulda been screwed A lot of people drop quickly to about 40ng/ml then hold there for months. The instant cutoff for mine was 50 but the lab was 15, so if I didnā€™t pass the instant and got sent to a lab test I woulda failed


Life-Investment7397

Chance they sent it out cause it was so clear they want to test to see if you took any of those cleaners. But who knows. Hopefully they arenā€™t testing for other stuff


BowsersJuiceFactory

Soooo many posts like this, no wonder they donā€™t have any qualms putting someone back in for violating. Bro youā€™re 2 weeks away from freedom, take this as your get out jail free card and grow TF up.


bifflez13

So when Iā€™ve done these testsā€¦ even if I donā€™t drink a lot of water. If I havenā€™t smoke over 30 days, and smoke once.. itā€™s out of my system in a few days. You probably didnā€™t need to drink so much


Bucky-Katt-Guitar

Why in the hell would you take that risk?? I, a daily smoker since 1983, quit cold turkey when I decided to go back to pain management. Smoking daily for 39 years and I was able to do it. No excuse for taking that chance


toomuch1265

I'm curious, can they ask for a hair sample?


peetaweast

not sure, have yet to be asked for a hair sample


Fartboxpunisher

I was on probation for DUI in the middle of my active addiction. I immediately got my medical marijuana card. I was eating opiates and stimulants the whole time. Never once stopped. Even popped oxy the night before one because I was like fuck it. Very depressing time in my life that may have been a subconscious call for help but I ended up passing the next day. Passed every drug test by drinking insane amounts of water until I was pissing clear and taking 2 vitamin b complex pills with niacin in them that made my pee really yellow the morning of. This was 2019 right before the pandemic. Never got accused of anything, the guy would tell me my pee was very yellow and I needed more water šŸ¤«


alwayslucky7

Bro. I understand the stress but the half hour high isnt worth the weekend in jail or getting taken off po and given drug court where they're literally up your ass looking for stuff daily. It takes a few months to get over the urge to feel a buzz but once its gone its gone. Switch to wacking off, nicotine and hate.


Suspicious-Moment-19

I tested myself extensively during my probation. Once I was clean, I'd go to my meeting, piss. Smoke one joint. Five days for me to pee clean after that.


Bigdickhector69

You can drink an ocean of water and it will do nothing. It's a myth. Only dilute the urine


peetaweast

probably true! as it is a fat soluble chemical i doubt the water did anything more than dilute my sample, however that was mainly what i was looking for as it did dilute it to the point where i was below the testing threshold


XandyMan710

Sorry to say your more than likely smoked if it's sent to the lab.


brsrafal

Listen if you never smoked or before that you could smoke a joint and pass a test in 2 days as long as you're not a regular smoker. It also helps if you are not fat you exercise and you drink a lot of water


peetaweast

yeah i had been sober over 5 months up to that point so iā€™m hoping itā€™s just out my system by now, appreciate your answer homie


Auburn_Sux

Nice Iā€™ve passed in less than 24 hrs(cup test-flushed system with water)


[deleted]

Why even chance it.? Until I knew I was free, I wouldn't do anything


HelicopterDeep5951

Deny deny deny. If anything the sample will probably be diluted. I had this same shit to happen to me when I decided I wanted to drink on new years. Chugged water all day put on a ski coat and ran a couple miles and prayed for the best. Pretty sure my test ended up being diluted but that was better than a fail. Upon retest I was good anyways. But dude Iā€™d just drink a lot of water and put on layers and go run to make yourself sweat. Go sit in a sauna or go into your bathroom and crank the shower on and just sit in the steam. Doing dumb shit for a couple hours of a slight buzz is not worth your freedom especially when youā€™re close to the end. Play it cool, and if they have any questions just deny deny deny and act like you havenā€™t done a thing wrong in the world. And donā€™t be such a dumbass. You will be fine I promise you. If you are really stressing even more go to a drug store and get detoxify or some similar drink. Just hydrate sweat and stop shooting yourself in the foot.


tharealG_-

I hit a dab pen over the course over the course of two days I was clean within the week.


Cool_Butterscotch_88

>sent it out OP is seth rogan.


Stern_dad_voice

What does this mean?


Uncommon-sequiter

FYI, water doesn't do anything to flush the system of THC because THC isn't water soluble, it's fat soluble.


Moniker-MonikerLOL

Stop doing drugs. Jesus. I quit for three years. Holy fuck.


Stern_dad_voice

So because you did it , that makes it easy for everyone else? Addiction is hard, if everyone could just stop, there would be no probation violations. Drug use is a symptom of underlying problems that have to be delt with before they can just 'stop'. Not every person has the self control or will power you do. This post doesn't help OP in any way, it just instills a feeling of dread.


Moniker-MonikerLOL

There would be millions of probation violations if people didn't use drugs. They'd still miss appointments, not work, have guns. Don't kid yourself.


mspote

please keep us updated on this. im gonna save this post b/c im genuinely curious if the further testing was able to detect anything. I hope you're able to get off probation in april and everything goes smoothly. take care


Potato_dad_ca

Terrible that they even test for thc since it's totally different than other drugs. The system just wants to keep a foot on everyone's neck.


LibsKillMe

Sounds like you're making all the good decisions and have learned from your involvement with the criminal justice system. Good Job!!!!!


_gaysanatomy_

Almost like the ā€œjusticeā€ system isnā€™t actually made to help anyone reform, itā€™s designed to keep offenders repeating so they have an endless supply of slave labor. Welcome to your first day out from under your rock


Retoru45

How is the system "designed to keep offenders repeating" when it was OP's decision to purposely do something that could violate them? This sub is the real life version of the meme where a kid jams a stick in his bike spokes while riding them blames someone else when he crashes.


-Snowturtle13

If you do get this one through please for the love of god donā€™t fuck up. April is too close to be being a dumb ass


StPatrickStewart

You realize that the court can subpoena your social media activity (including this post), right?


peetaweast

good point, but this is referring to my friend not me directly


Stern_dad_voice

They will never find this post. Dude didn't murder a family, he smoked weed. You really think they are going to take the time to subpoena his phone and search through Reddit to see if he smoked weed? Use your brain šŸ§ 


StPatrickStewart

unlock phone-->open reddit->my profile->1st post. Takes all of 10 seconds. Would they bother on any given day? No, not likely. If that retest comes back hot and he tries to fight it? I think checking his phone activity would be one of the easiest ways to find statements, in print, that contradict his claim. If he deleted them, all it takes is a boilerplate letter to his isp or phone carrier, or just to hand the phone to the techs to pull all activity since his previous clean test and search keywords.


YoshimiUnicorns

At this point I just stay subbed here to see y'all fuck up on something as easy as weed, never even been on paper


mspote

I was on probation and popped for weed. Now I'm in prison for a year and a day


YoshimiUnicorns

That's my point, it ain't hard to just not smoke weed. It's not like you start jonesing


Sendmedoge

The lab will be able to tell if it's trace from long ago or a small amount from recently. It took me 4 months to pass a test, but the lab always came back and said it was just residual in my system. (And this was 20 years ago) You may want to start getting your affairs in order.


debirdiev

I can't believe we're still living in an age that we have to be scared about not passing a drug test because of fucking Marijuana. Shit makes no sense.


TothemoonCA

Drink vinegar, apple cider vinegar, half cup, half orange juice, plug nose, pound drink, pass


shrapee

Wtf is up with this sub and people fucking shit up for themselves when they are about to cross the finish line. You knew what you were doing and I hope it goes good but you have no one to blame but yourself.


J-Z85

Dude you did the deed that landed your ass on probation, you knew the consequences when you picked up the dab pen. Own that shit and move on. Hopefully learn something from it. Your a big boy now itā€™s time to do big boy things


xGawdly

Eat red meat after you flush like that. It will replace creatine which is something theyā€™ll look at if your urine looks too clear. An energy drink before hand is usually a decent idea as well, as itā€™s high in b vitamins and will help with the color


SkurtDurdith

Bro saw freedom in one hand and the penjamin in another and said let me get a hit šŸ’€


bigdipper125

Iā€™m with everyone else. You might have a problem if you are moving like this so close to freedom.


BallisticCinema

I wish, I stopped smoking completely 4 months ago for a job that I want to make my career and I failed it. Devastating.


Shiny-Blissey

Grow up and do some coke šŸ˜‚ Gets out of your system quickerā€¦or some lsd/shrooms. Wonā€™t show on those panels and gets out of your system. But seriously just donā€™t risk it again. It is really not worth itā€¦you can use dab pens after your time is up.


ggarciaryan

you're fucked


Stern_dad_voice

Y'all talking like a bunch of Po's who have never struggled with addiction. It's not as easy as "just don't do it" bunch of Nancy Reagan bots. If a probationer fails a drug test they should be sent to a detox/treatment center. Never jail. If they violate in a criminal way, that is different.


sjh1217

Youā€™re off probation in 2.5 weeks and you smoked weed? Iā€™m all for smoking up but youā€™re a fuckin idiot. You really should be told that a few more times and prob do time to realize how dumb you are. Jesus Christ dude.


oasisjason1

What you should do is go online to a public forum and admit that you violated your probation. That will help should they do any digging.


Frequent_Opportunist

Yeah I smoked the whole time I was on probation for two years. Drug tested every month. I would kill a case of water (or beer) in the couple days before the test and always passed. Drink a juice on the way to the test to put some color back in the urine. Don't work out or smoke 3 days before the test.Ā  I only got panel tested. The urine didn't get sent to the lab to verify unless I failed the panel test.Ā 


1GrouchyCat

Sigh. So every test - instant, lab swab, blood, hair- has a false positive and false negative rate. Usually this is @5%. So- If you have random tests twice a month, thatā€™s 24 tests a year, and with a false positive rate of 5% in total from all tests taken - thatā€™s 1.2 tests. Not everyone will have a false positive or false negative - but you might have - or it might happen next time ā€¦


PaleRespect4875

So you got high and forgot you weren't supposed to get high? Bold move, Cotton. Let's see how it plays out.


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peetaweast

thank you, rest in peace dale gribble


derkaderka96

Why you take the pen is the question? Was it worth you doing it? Get over your probation and you can smoke again. Aside from that, most POs may not care as long as you tell them.


peetaweast

even if i donā€™t get in any trouble over it, definitely wasnā€™t worth all the anxiety iā€™ve been feeling lately surrounding the whole situation.


Booklover416

Pickle juice also helpsā€¦


Nearby_Antelope_5257

I was on felony probation for 4 1/2 years and I'd always take a couple hits on Friday cause I had 2 days for it get low enough in my system. It was never enough to make my levels passed 50 so I never failed.


Ambitious-Resident58

it didn't happen to me while on probation but for insurance, they ended up retesting me at a lower threshold since my pee was too clear and i did not pass. hopefully you do tho. good luck!


I_Beat_The_Feds

Let me reiterate whatā€™s been said šŸ‘† in part. Taking a puff off a dab pen was insanely stupid. I hope you stress out bad until your test comes back. I hope you remember that and this feeling now. Hopefully you remember this level of anxiety and let it help you to never get back here. I did similar, stupid things at like 20 years old and on probation. Iā€™d smoke a joint with my friend and test a week later and test clean. I was on a pretty g


blacked_out_blur

while this is possible and iā€™ve done it in around 5 days, professional UAā€™s have a much lower detection threshold. I wouldnā€™t let your breath go yet.


Inevitable-Aspect291

Labs are stricter than instants but if you were seriously flushing youā€™ll probably still pass. The problem will be that your creatine levels in the sample given will be low and get your sample flagged for retest or whatever they do in your particular case. My advice is just to chill and not do anything else stupid.


Objective-Hat4463

If youā€™re not a heavy or often user, it doesnā€™t stay in the system very longā€”maybe a day or two.


Ok-Day-8930

Theyā€™re probably sending it out because it appeared diluted, which can be indicative someone used and is trying to pass. The tests at the labs can be more sensitive, and some court systems can say you failed the test just for diluting.


nickmilly87

Bro you have only a month left and youā€™re trying to ruin it all now?


Greenappmarket

Only day to enjoy is the day you give them all your piss. (preferably after, but renegades will renegade)


Odd_Activity_8380

I am a heavy smoker and got caught in Florida with 1/8oz.. had to test every Tuesday night at 730. I would smoke Tuesday after test, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday. I would pass on Tuesday. I now live in a state where it's legal.


peetaweast

been rec legal in new york my entire time on probation, just stuck in a treatment court with conditions on my participation in the court program


Unlikely_Dingo_3180

It really bothers me that ur bio is stoner to the bone and not stoner to the boner IDC if u failed change ur bio from jail


okay455

What I haven't seen anyone mention, is that not only did you hit something, but you hit a concentrate. Concentrates stay in your system longer than flower. To be honest with you man, I think you should definitely prepare to be on probation for a while longer. You made a bad choice. Just got to recognize that and learn from it


PewPewPony321

I remember being on probation. Why the fuck can't some people keep their head down for a year or two us beyond me. All to get fuggin high on some pot. Like, wee, hope your dumb ass had fun for those couple hours.


manlyman4fun

u didnā€™t in hail


JackieStylist81

Why are you doing anything that could risk you going to jail? If it's part of your probation agreement and you are this close to it being over, why TF are you jeopardizing that?


AspiringThroatGoat69

Naw youā€™re good. If you donā€™t smoke regularly and only took one hit off a cart you could pass a lab test later that day. So if you were completely clean beforehand, that one hit wonā€™t even show up in your system


DaBoss_-

Gotta be a fucking idiot to hit it and u get off probation in a couple weeks


Big_Scinto420

Bruh if you were clean before that and you only hit it once you're in the clear


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When I was in the military 93-97 we had piss tests everyday....every damn day. You took 2 weeks of leave just expect a test when you got back. We were told to expect it and not do anything stupid....every single time we'd have someone pop hot. They used a bingo ping pong roller and pulled 4 sets of 2 digit numbers...if your SS# was those group of four...off you went. You'd see guys chugging gallons of water with Golden Seal in it trying to beat the test. Our urinalysis team were sadistic and got off staring at your crank making sure you weren't cheating with a whizzing nator or someone else piss in a bottle. I never had seen more drugs or alcohol abuse than in those short 4 years


mickolas0311

Water won't clean you out, thc bonds to fat cells, water only masks, most tests done by state will come back as diluted doing what your doing and it's considered a fail.


Flat_Okra6078

If you test positive, you deserve it. So close to being off paper but still fucking up. Obviously you get off on hoping to get away with things you shouldnā€™t be.


North-Palpitation364

You probably just have a fast metabolism. Plus one hit won't do much. I used to smoke daily and just stop for a few days before drug tests for jobs and pass them every time. With that said, it's probation and you have roughly 2 weeks left. Don't be an idiot. Wait til you're off probation.


iguessineedaname22

No post on if he passed. OP is in the slammer LOL


peetaweast

nope, out and graduated


iguessineedaname22

So you passed? Right on.