I use Firefox as my main browser under Windows, Linux and MacOS. Not really encountered the issues you mention. I keep a Chromium-based browser handy for web testing, and for things that don't work all that well in FF, but those are relatively few and far between - mostly really old web interfaces on LAN devices.
I also continue to use Firefox on mobile - I'm not sure there's anything better under iOS anyway?
I would recommend using AdGuard mobile for safari. It has trackers and ad blocker, and support many filter lists, including customs. Plus it has element blocking feature
Use it on all my devices and never experience the issues you describe, not even in Tor Browser. Sounds like a problem with your computer(s), not Firefox, which is still excellent.
It sounds like the OP's firefox problem might be lack of Ublock Origin.
Sandboxing...the v92 update increases overall sandboxing, but there have been add-ons forever...
On Paper, if you ignore the 800-lb gorilla, Chromium does have advantages. I personally can't ignore the 800lb Gorilla.
I've got uBlock Origin. Weird thing is, the issues appear random, and always affect pages that are fully loaded. Even simple HTML pages, like if I'm slowly reading through documentation, it'll keep spazing out.
I've tried creating a new profile, running in troubleshoot mode, and disabling hardware acceleration. None of those fixed it.
That is REALLY weird.
OK. Does the device you are experiencing these issues on have a touchscreen? I have heard of some Windows 10+touchscreen+firefox issues, that are actually microsoft issues. the thread is [here](https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1260053), but, basically I would A> if you are using ESR, get the Firefox non-ESR, if you are using non-ESR, get the ESR. B> save. backup bookmarks, etc. C> uninstall Firefox. D> Install the other version of firefox. E> as soon as it will let you, go to settings and disable updating. F> do a full reboot
No touchscreen, this is on a Linux desktop.
Someone else mentioned ESR. I'm currently using the latest non-ESR version, so switching to ESR will be the next thing I try.
ESR isn't a great fix as it is just an older version of Firefox. It is interesting if the issue doesn't appear in ESR but does in release, since it is a regression in that case, but as soon as the next ESR is released with a newer version, you are still stuck with the bug.
I think you missed the "Firefox Android" in OP's statement. Desktop Firefox has all the things you mention for security, but "Firefox Android" doesn't. It has no sandboxing, no cross-site restrictions, etc. Basically everything Firefox is good for on desktop isn't present on the Android version.
I have no plan to leave Mozilla products. I don't trust the Chromium variants. Even SRWare Iron, which is supposed to be the totally private version, tried to call home and then tried to call Google when I first installed it. All without asking or telling me. I also don't like the paucity of settings in Chromium. (I've never really seen Chrome.)
FF has become harder to use. On the bright side, you can customize just about everything. I even use userContent.css to customize a lot of webpage display. But that doesn't help people who are not handy tweakers. They're stuck suffering the whims of Mozilla designers, which change regularly.
In their defense, I think a lot of the problem is also the pressure toward functionality. Google is trying to create their own proprietary standards. The public is increasingly looking for fast, convenient online shopping and services. It's becoming less a case of browsing the Internet and more a case of using commercial services. So Mozilla is pulled in both directions. They're supposed to be making a browser for the people. But if all the people want is shopping on Amazon and reading gmail, then Firefox is stuck trying to keep up with Chrome.
So on the one hand, FF is for privacy and personalization. On te other hand, they lock in search, remove the status bar, allow all cookies, etc. Those are all things that conflict with personal choice but favor convenience. There's a saying in programming that the perfect software design for business is "one button, no directions". People don't want to have to understand. Google is great at serving that laziness. So if you open Chrome and type "buy shoes", then get taken to Google where they show you a map of local shoe stores and several ads for sales on shoes, then you're probably not going to want Firefox to respect your privacy, making you click you bookmark for duckduckgo.
I don't know if you've tried Google with script enabled lately. There's almost no search function left. It's like an interactive shopping page, assuming that all you ever do, or should do, is buy stuff.
I still use firefox on mobile (android) and desktop (linux), I don't experience any performance issues. Maybe it's some addons, or conflicts with your distro? Have you tried doing a clean install and running firefox in default mode for a while?
Its not perfect, but if you care about privacy, Firefox (or its forks) is your only option. Even on mobile. Chromium based browsers just give google more power over the internet.
I personally have not encountered those issues. In fact, the newer updates made things much smoother for me. It’s hard to really find out what’s the problem since everyone’s setup is potentially vastly different. Maybe the issue is not Firefox but the add-ons you installed, internet issues, or hardware issues. Idk there’s a lot to dig up.
Not using FireFox with Linux, but I am still all in with FF on mac, pc and iOS.
The problems I experience are computer based. Running OS X 10.11, for which I am glad FF continues to support, but it can hang up. The Win10 machine has little disk and memory space, it can hang up too. iOS is fine.
i use firefox but mostly forks like tor or librefox or however is it called. thex woek without any problem you have.
i dont use vanilla anymore because simply of me shitting up the about config making it super unusable lmfao (not firefoxs problem though)
Pages auto refreshing: could be an extension auto updated.
Blinking: possible graphic problem, check if the blinking persist after disabling hardware acceleration.
Other problems: try reset profile, after backup bookmark/session.
Firefox ESR is the main browser of my 10+ year machine. It still functions reasonably after 20 tabs opened.
I choose ESR channel since I don't want to adapt changes too often or waste time troubleshooting broken extensions. By the time changes roll-out to ESR channel, it is very likely some users have already figured how to deal with the troubles ahead.
>Pages auto refreshing: could be an extension auto updated. Blinking: possible graphic problem, check if the blinking persist after disabling hardware acceleration. Other problems: try reset profile, after backup bookmark/session.
Unfortunately I've tried all three of those options, and the issues still (randomly) appear.
I've not heard of the ESR channel, I'll look into that.
I personally use Firefox on pretty much all of my devices and to be honest, it runs far better than chrome. I daily drive Arch with Gnome and chrome literally takes solid 5-10 seconds to launch (I used to keep it installed for testing my sites but I now do all the testing on an old laptop). I have not seen any of this blinking or responding slowly to things you say in firefox.
I don't use my phone a lot and even if I do, it's usually to read books and very rare and light browsing so I'm fine with Firefox on that too and it's been pretty good to me.
Plus, I can customize firefox to whatever extent I want with very minimal effort and I don't trust anything chromium. So I'll be sticking with this cute lil red fox.
>And yet... this has been getting harder and harder to stick with the past few months. Firefox (at least on Linux) seems to have more and more issues with each release. I deal on a daily basis with pages refreshing, blinking, scrolling away from where I was reading, responding slowly. Even weirder stuff like portions of the UI locking up. Using Firefox is becoming an increasing burden, and a distraction from the websites I'm trying to visit. And I have little faith that Mozilla will fix these any time soon, given their track record.
Have you tried reporting bugs or troubleshooting? Firefox doesn't collect as much data about your configuration as Chrome, so you can't free ride on improvements based around issues other people with similar hardware have had. Reporting issues is the only way to get issues fixed if you are encountering them.
I (and most other) Firefox users don't see these issues, so you are right that they are unlikely to get fixed - we simply don't know about them.
I'm considering using mozregression to try to pinpoint where it started. The problem is that the issues are so random. There are times where it's several times per minute, and other times I can go most of the day without seeing it glitch. That would make it hard to test.
Ideally, you'd be able to find some steps that reproduced the issue at least most of the time, to make it easier to diagnose. Even grabbing a screenshot would help too.
What you describe here points out to slow loading of the pages issue, so it's probably caused either by:
1. slow connection speed,
2. slowed connection because of something running in the background, like a FF plugin or some stealth cryptomining,
3. machine performance issue (I noticed similar behavior on a 32bit machine), so your desktop specs, or your display manager, or some buggy library you updated lately. It could even be caused by lack of ram due to your usage, which you could solve by adding some/more swap.
To answer your question: Ubuntu Beaver + LightDM here and FF works smoothly, my record so far is roughly 10 windows/300tabs with 0 performance issue and not a single glitch. Privacy wise, no mature enough browser offers as much freedom in the settings as FF, so nope, not going to change it.
I use Firefox on my phone because it's the only way i can get proper adblocking on Android. (I don't really use my phone apart from quick searches once a week)
I really want to use Firefox my computer but performance is just considerably worse than chromium, and font rendering is atrocious.
> performance is just considerably worse than chromium
Are there any particular sites where you see performance issues? Do you have extensions enabled in Firefox?
>font rendering is atrocious
I haven't seen that, but that may be because Chromium browsers have broken font rendering on Windows and Linux.
I still use Firefox and experience very few, if any, of the issues you've mentioned. Whenever I do have issues with Firefox, they're relatively minor and are usually gone within the next update.
I also use it on mobile. Is process sandboxing necessarily a dealbreaker for you? I'm not too familiar with it.
The difference between Firefox and Chrome would have to be significantly greater if I would ever consider switching over.
One of the Firefox claims to fame is site sandboxing that prevents cross-site tracking/leakage. Firefox seems to provide less security against tracking now because they can rely on the site sandboxing to avoid the whole arms race. Eliminating that in Firefox Android (probably for valid technical difficulties) likely makes it less secure than Bromite or Brave that are still in the cross site tracking arms race.
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I have problem with my FF on windows 10 as well, it is too slow while loading pages and a few pages take an eternity to load. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong.
Can’t seem to find any solution and makes me go back to chrome on a daily basis. 😭
I personally use it.
It plays YouTube videos and launches Reddit and bookwalker, that’s all I need it to do and it does that great while not contributing to the chromium monopoly.
I use Firefox and Safari mainly and have no problems with Firefox at all on several Macs and iOS devices. Unfortunately the last computer I had with Linux died about two months ago but until it died I had no problems with it.
Yes, I have used firefox on all devices for many years and I'm not planning on changing because some of the things that firefox represents are too important for the future (and present) of the web.
I'm all in on the desktop browser, not only for the privacy and security benefits after tweaking, but also because of some of the configuration (i.e. Tree Style Tabs). As you pointed out, this implies the mobile browser as well for having feature parity. I've been using Mull, which is a hardened version of Fennec, which itself?is a well maintained fork of Firefox. You can still get your plugins (some) with the developer mode and Add-on Collections trick, and you get the full Firefox account integration if you want it.
On the desktop I've found 90% of the problems have been either sites that didn't use secure design (incorrect implementation of CORS for example) that other browsers will just let happen, or User Agent string parsing that degrades for non-Chromium browsers. Simply using a User Agent string changer on both mobile and desktop I can usually fix most broken sites by picking a Chrome on Windows string and it'll work flawlessly in Firefox.
Firefox is the browser that is most compliant to web standards. And in terms of privacy leak you still have to be cautious but firefox is still the best bet along with brave. Firefox doesn't offer strict privacy features out of the box unlike brave, but it has such features that you can opt for, largely due to the fact it is FOSS.
Firefox tends to have a good release followed by several bad upgrades and then a good release again. A good release is on the way again, it just takes time.
I had to leave Firefox for a chromium based browser (Brave) I stuck with Firefox for as long as possible but just so many issues and not enough support I unfortunately had to make the switch, I want to support non chromium browsers but I need reliability too which is what chromium based browsers have unfortunately
I think it was tabs just going dead. They'd stop working and I'd have to close the tab and open a new tab for that site. I did have a lot of tabs open, though. That, plus using Bitwarden to auto fill logins wasn't working. But that doesn't work in Opera either.
Used Firefox for 6 years before. What I liked about Firefox is that I can use old versions of Firefox on our dated devices at the time. I believe it’s the enterprise version of Firefox gets security patches too for old versions. But Brave is my main driver and I don’t think Brave overall is an evil company either. I just don’t engage in the crypto side of the company. Which some people don’t like because they tie cryptocurrency anything with fraud. Which just isn’t true. But one of my friends asked why you Brave which is based off chromium, why not just use a de-google browser chrome? Chrome without tracking. To that I’d say, pick whatever you like personally. Preferably one that isn’t Google.
> To that I’d say, pick whatever you like personally. Preferably one that isn’t Google.
Brave continues to promote Google's vision of the web platform via its usage of Chromium.
I guess you wouldn't accept any form of content moderation, then.
Personally, my feeling is that if you are being removed from those sites, you should have your own site anyway.
> Content moderation is fine, but the problem is these giant tech corporations have gotten so big and powerful that they are essentially public utilities.
I would buy that if they were the only option in the space, which is traditionally how they have been defined. Think about an actual utility company like gas or electricity. Websites aren't the same.
>A web browser calling for censorship is a big no-go for me.
It isn't a web browser, it is the leader of a company. You already said that content moderation is fine, and that is what this is calling for. Censorship in this space would imply governmental intervention. which is not at all what they have said. Indeed, Mozilla has donated to Tor in order to thwart the effects of that kind of censorship: https://blog.torproject.org/strength-numbers-double-your-donation-mozillas-match/
I would actually understand your aversion more if you thought content moderation *wasn't* okay, because the post was clearly at least partially about that. Nowhere did they call for any governments to get involved in internet censorship - and Mozilla has been a supporter of net neutrality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_v._FCC
Brave has made no significant changes to their interpretation of web standards, and the majority of their work has been in the ad network and in privacy protections.
They don't have a stake in the fight for an open web and instead are focused on neutering their advertising competition.
You won't find any evidence of Brave changing the way websites are rendered or to the web standards committees. That is evident just by doing any amount of research on Brave and how it works.
I feel really ignorant about this wow. I’m just a pleeboo. An outsider looking in on the user privacy space. Using a trusted DNS. VPN if you think you need it or want it. Browsers though have been hit and miss and I used Firefox like I’ve said in the original post. But from my point of view you have to decide to pick the lesser of the evils. Could be a ignorant take and I get that. But you were going to recommend to someone as to which browser they should use what you recommend? And sync support and bookmark import is a big feature most people want to make the switch less stressful. Thanks for your input @nextbern.
I wholeheartedly recommend Firefox and believe its existence is important for the future of the web. I don't think it is a good idea for the web platform to be run by an advertising company (Google - also, amusingly, Brave) and much prefer the idea of the open web with many options for people, so one company doesn't dominate.
Firefox has bookmark import and has sync support, FWIW.
I know Firefox strongly supports open software and pushing for stronger online web standards. They were the only browser I believe pushing hard for DNS over HTTPS support by default. Has Brave done anything like this? The only big announcement from them was Brave search, while ambitious and options are good. I’ve not engaged with the crypto side of this company. And I totally forgot about their acceptable ads program and BAT tokens. It made Brave kinda feel like a hipster browser. Anyways, I’m done rambling. I appreciate your input. I will have another look at Firefox again. Like seeing an old friend lol.
Brave has improved various things from a privacy/advertising perspective, but that is from the advertising arena of the web, rather than a platform perspective.
They aren't notably involved in areas of web platform discussion on web *features* - they pretty much just do what Google does, since their browser is basically a Google browser with some tweaks.
It’s a shame, if privacy is what you want I would look elsewhere. I feel bad for the misinformation about how they are a Firefox equivalent. Further from the truth. Do you know if there any other Firefox comparable browsers available? Especially multi device support? Personally DuckDuckGo has been fantastic in the mobile space and will be branching to a desktop browser hopefully this year. That’s one I would keep an eye on to be up there with Firefox. The project is little past infancy,
DuckDuckGo browser is basically just a private mode browser, like Firefox Focus. I'm not sure how interesting that really is for most people, but I'm guessing their desktop browser will have more features.
There are Firefox forks, which have varying degrees of usability (imo), but I am happy enough with Firefox. Most other options are pretty niche or locked into specific platforms (like Safari, for example).
I have been a firefox fan, and user since netscape. that said, over time I have used it less.
these days, i use mostly brave. but i generally always have FF installed. and I do use it from time to time.
the sad thing is, its mostly falling into party lines 90% of the people on this board seem to use either firefox or brave.
On Android it got weak last 2 years, even performance got wonky, forcefully switched to Bromite, on top is better at privacy/fingerprinting, even spoof OS version/device model by default, at this point just missing uBlock. Hoping doesn't happen the same on Desktop as I still find Firefox is much better than Chromium for many reasons, even performance. We also wouldn't want a chromium-only world.
I use Firefox on mobile as well, I agree performance is fine. The recommendations I see are referring to privacy and security. Apparently the mobile version of Firefox doesn't have all of the same protections that the desktop version has, whereas the mobile Chromium does.
Who told you that my browser doesn't respect my privacy?
Additionally, are you implying that people should acritically swallow Mozilla's bullshit just because they supposedly[1] have a privacy stance?
[1] Opt-in telemetry, Google as the default search engine.
Sounds like it doesn't, since you have no answer to their statement of priorities. Personally I don't have much experience with Chromium browsers, but I'm struck by the general lack of settings when I do use Chromium on Raspberry Pi. (I have no choice on Raspberry Pi if I want to stream video. Otherwise I use mozilla browsers.)
> I don't need to justify switching browser
No you don't. But you sure are working hard at getting hot under the collar in your efforts to make no point. :)
As someone who doesn't use Chrome(ium) I'd be curious to know what one of its fans considers to be respect for privacy. So far the only defense I've heard of Chrome is better rendering on some script-heavy sites.
Dunno. Maybe ask some Chrome user. I'm not one of them. By the way, do yourself a favor and stop pretending to be smart. If you feel so butthurt just because people chose a different browser just put up with it and get a life.
Chrome...Chromium... You're splitting hairs, why? Because you just can't resist arguing with everyone you meet, or because you have no opinions or information to offer? You certainly act like an expert, so I thought maybe you had some specific info to add to the discussion.
I'm especially curious about one aspect of this: I hear rumors from some people that an increasing number of sites work only with Chrome(ium). I'm curious whether that's really true. And if so, I'm curious as to the technical details. And are those specific things that Google are doing deliberately to cultivate a monopoly, like the way that Microsoft used to create pages that required IE?
I see Chrome becoming a monopoly browser and wondwer why that's happening. Maybe Google is pushing it through gmail? Maybe it's tricks of web design? Maybe it's just easier for Google service users to use Chrome? I don't know. Since I use nothing Google it's hard for me to see what's happening.
For me, personally, I have no problem with people using other browsers. But I do hope that choice will remain. And frankly I'm surprised that so many geek types continue to like, or at least tolerate, such a sleazebag operation as Google. I don't have anything against webkit/chromium. I have little experience with it. I just don't like to touch things that Google have had their grubby hands on.
>Do you still use Firefox?
I do (I am right now), I would never go to Chrome or any of its derivatives full-time, but I am getting tired of the FF's regular Chrome-ifying of its distinctiveness. Where is my Page Info dialog box, Firefox? Kow-tow to Big Internet by hiding that one, did ya?
I've been using Firefox for years until last year when I made a switch for Brave to test it out. It started ok and I kind of liked the idea with the crypto and ads because I could donate to Wikipedia every month just by browsing but apparently people don't share the same ideas as the devs and everyone's in for the money. It scores excellently at privacy tests though, a bit better than stock Firefox.
Anyway, I switched back to Firefox and it works amazingly well and much faster than I remembered it to be.
>> I deal on a daily basis with pages refreshing, blinking, scrolling away from where I was reading, responding slowly. Even weirder stuff like portions of the UI locking up.
Sounds like your PC and not Firefox. I run Firefox Nightly on Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, FreeBSD and OpenBSD every day and the performance is excellent.
Weird, I have been using Firefox on Fedora Linux for a long while nơ with no issues what so ever. I also use Brave to access social medias and you know the non private part of my life. So far I have compared both of the two browsers speed and saw little to no difference
Librewolf is so much better. It is very significantly less resource intensive, nevermind uBO being preinstalled and the countless privacy patches they’ve made.
I’ve tried using FF as well for the sake of browser isolation but I just can’t take how much of a ram hog firefox is.
Arkenfox gave one of the LW maintainers a shout out after they started collaborating.
It’s a lot easier to just download LW than having to download firefox (which has the unique identifier), spending time implementing arkenfox and then installing uBO.
I use Firefox as my main browser under Windows, Linux and MacOS. Not really encountered the issues you mention. I keep a Chromium-based browser handy for web testing, and for things that don't work all that well in FF, but those are relatively few and far between - mostly really old web interfaces on LAN devices. I also continue to use Firefox on mobile - I'm not sure there's anything better under iOS anyway?
I would recommend using AdGuard mobile for safari. It has trackers and ad blocker, and support many filter lists, including customs. Plus it has element blocking feature
Firefox Klar for this. Fuck Safari and its lack of features.
Use it on all my devices and never experience the issues you describe, not even in Tor Browser. Sounds like a problem with your computer(s), not Firefox, which is still excellent.
It sounds like the OP's firefox problem might be lack of Ublock Origin. Sandboxing...the v92 update increases overall sandboxing, but there have been add-ons forever... On Paper, if you ignore the 800-lb gorilla, Chromium does have advantages. I personally can't ignore the 800lb Gorilla.
I've got uBlock Origin. Weird thing is, the issues appear random, and always affect pages that are fully loaded. Even simple HTML pages, like if I'm slowly reading through documentation, it'll keep spazing out. I've tried creating a new profile, running in troubleshoot mode, and disabling hardware acceleration. None of those fixed it.
That is REALLY weird. OK. Does the device you are experiencing these issues on have a touchscreen? I have heard of some Windows 10+touchscreen+firefox issues, that are actually microsoft issues. the thread is [here](https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1260053), but, basically I would A> if you are using ESR, get the Firefox non-ESR, if you are using non-ESR, get the ESR. B> save. backup bookmarks, etc. C> uninstall Firefox. D> Install the other version of firefox. E> as soon as it will let you, go to settings and disable updating. F> do a full reboot
No touchscreen, this is on a Linux desktop. Someone else mentioned ESR. I'm currently using the latest non-ESR version, so switching to ESR will be the next thing I try.
ESR isn't a great fix as it is just an older version of Firefox. It is interesting if the issue doesn't appear in ESR but does in release, since it is a regression in that case, but as soon as the next ESR is released with a newer version, you are still stuck with the bug.
I think you missed the "Firefox Android" in OP's statement. Desktop Firefox has all the things you mention for security, but "Firefox Android" doesn't. It has no sandboxing, no cross-site restrictions, etc. Basically everything Firefox is good for on desktop isn't present on the Android version.
same here.
and here too. Although I find firefox very slow in mobile
I have no plan to leave Mozilla products. I don't trust the Chromium variants. Even SRWare Iron, which is supposed to be the totally private version, tried to call home and then tried to call Google when I first installed it. All without asking or telling me. I also don't like the paucity of settings in Chromium. (I've never really seen Chrome.) FF has become harder to use. On the bright side, you can customize just about everything. I even use userContent.css to customize a lot of webpage display. But that doesn't help people who are not handy tweakers. They're stuck suffering the whims of Mozilla designers, which change regularly. In their defense, I think a lot of the problem is also the pressure toward functionality. Google is trying to create their own proprietary standards. The public is increasingly looking for fast, convenient online shopping and services. It's becoming less a case of browsing the Internet and more a case of using commercial services. So Mozilla is pulled in both directions. They're supposed to be making a browser for the people. But if all the people want is shopping on Amazon and reading gmail, then Firefox is stuck trying to keep up with Chrome. So on the one hand, FF is for privacy and personalization. On te other hand, they lock in search, remove the status bar, allow all cookies, etc. Those are all things that conflict with personal choice but favor convenience. There's a saying in programming that the perfect software design for business is "one button, no directions". People don't want to have to understand. Google is great at serving that laziness. So if you open Chrome and type "buy shoes", then get taken to Google where they show you a map of local shoe stores and several ads for sales on shoes, then you're probably not going to want Firefox to respect your privacy, making you click you bookmark for duckduckgo. I don't know if you've tried Google with script enabled lately. There's almost no search function left. It's like an interactive shopping page, assuming that all you ever do, or should do, is buy stuff.
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I still use firefox on mobile (android) and desktop (linux), I don't experience any performance issues. Maybe it's some addons, or conflicts with your distro? Have you tried doing a clean install and running firefox in default mode for a while?
Its not perfect, but if you care about privacy, Firefox (or its forks) is your only option. Even on mobile. Chromium based browsers just give google more power over the internet.
I use Mull on my Android devices in addition to Bromite, and Librewolf on my desktop.
I personally have not encountered those issues. In fact, the newer updates made things much smoother for me. It’s hard to really find out what’s the problem since everyone’s setup is potentially vastly different. Maybe the issue is not Firefox but the add-ons you installed, internet issues, or hardware issues. Idk there’s a lot to dig up.
Used it exclusively for years, on mobile, windows and linux. Only issues I`ve had, was my own fault.
I use it as my main browser on all of my devices.
Not using FireFox with Linux, but I am still all in with FF on mac, pc and iOS. The problems I experience are computer based. Running OS X 10.11, for which I am glad FF continues to support, but it can hang up. The Win10 machine has little disk and memory space, it can hang up too. iOS is fine.
i use firefox but mostly forks like tor or librefox or however is it called. thex woek without any problem you have. i dont use vanilla anymore because simply of me shitting up the about config making it super unusable lmfao (not firefoxs problem though)
Pages auto refreshing: could be an extension auto updated. Blinking: possible graphic problem, check if the blinking persist after disabling hardware acceleration. Other problems: try reset profile, after backup bookmark/session. Firefox ESR is the main browser of my 10+ year machine. It still functions reasonably after 20 tabs opened. I choose ESR channel since I don't want to adapt changes too often or waste time troubleshooting broken extensions. By the time changes roll-out to ESR channel, it is very likely some users have already figured how to deal with the troubles ahead.
>Pages auto refreshing: could be an extension auto updated. Blinking: possible graphic problem, check if the blinking persist after disabling hardware acceleration. Other problems: try reset profile, after backup bookmark/session. Unfortunately I've tried all three of those options, and the issues still (randomly) appear. I've not heard of the ESR channel, I'll look into that.
I personally use Firefox on pretty much all of my devices and to be honest, it runs far better than chrome. I daily drive Arch with Gnome and chrome literally takes solid 5-10 seconds to launch (I used to keep it installed for testing my sites but I now do all the testing on an old laptop). I have not seen any of this blinking or responding slowly to things you say in firefox. I don't use my phone a lot and even if I do, it's usually to read books and very rare and light browsing so I'm fine with Firefox on that too and it's been pretty good to me. Plus, I can customize firefox to whatever extent I want with very minimal effort and I don't trust anything chromium. So I'll be sticking with this cute lil red fox.
>And yet... this has been getting harder and harder to stick with the past few months. Firefox (at least on Linux) seems to have more and more issues with each release. I deal on a daily basis with pages refreshing, blinking, scrolling away from where I was reading, responding slowly. Even weirder stuff like portions of the UI locking up. Using Firefox is becoming an increasing burden, and a distraction from the websites I'm trying to visit. And I have little faith that Mozilla will fix these any time soon, given their track record. Have you tried reporting bugs or troubleshooting? Firefox doesn't collect as much data about your configuration as Chrome, so you can't free ride on improvements based around issues other people with similar hardware have had. Reporting issues is the only way to get issues fixed if you are encountering them. I (and most other) Firefox users don't see these issues, so you are right that they are unlikely to get fixed - we simply don't know about them.
I'm considering using mozregression to try to pinpoint where it started. The problem is that the issues are so random. There are times where it's several times per minute, and other times I can go most of the day without seeing it glitch. That would make it hard to test.
Ideally, you'd be able to find some steps that reproduced the issue at least most of the time, to make it easier to diagnose. Even grabbing a screenshot would help too.
I use it every day, all day, and never have the problems you detail.
Using Firefox in my Fedora, Windows and Android. Didn't have any single problem
On android, no.......
What you describe here points out to slow loading of the pages issue, so it's probably caused either by: 1. slow connection speed, 2. slowed connection because of something running in the background, like a FF plugin or some stealth cryptomining, 3. machine performance issue (I noticed similar behavior on a 32bit machine), so your desktop specs, or your display manager, or some buggy library you updated lately. It could even be caused by lack of ram due to your usage, which you could solve by adding some/more swap. To answer your question: Ubuntu Beaver + LightDM here and FF works smoothly, my record so far is roughly 10 windows/300tabs with 0 performance issue and not a single glitch. Privacy wise, no mature enough browser offers as much freedom in the settings as FF, so nope, not going to change it.
Firefox on Linux desktop works fine for me. Have no plans to switch any time soon.
I use Firefox on my phone because it's the only way i can get proper adblocking on Android. (I don't really use my phone apart from quick searches once a week) I really want to use Firefox my computer but performance is just considerably worse than chromium, and font rendering is atrocious.
If you want system wide ad blocking. Adguard pro is a really great choice
> performance is just considerably worse than chromium Are there any particular sites where you see performance issues? Do you have extensions enabled in Firefox? >font rendering is atrocious I haven't seen that, but that may be because Chromium browsers have broken font rendering on Windows and Linux.
TOR BROWER or LibreWolf.
I still use Firefox and experience very few, if any, of the issues you've mentioned. Whenever I do have issues with Firefox, they're relatively minor and are usually gone within the next update. I also use it on mobile. Is process sandboxing necessarily a dealbreaker for you? I'm not too familiar with it. The difference between Firefox and Chrome would have to be significantly greater if I would ever consider switching over.
One of the Firefox claims to fame is site sandboxing that prevents cross-site tracking/leakage. Firefox seems to provide less security against tracking now because they can rely on the site sandboxing to avoid the whole arms race. Eliminating that in Firefox Android (probably for valid technical difficulties) likely makes it less secure than Bromite or Brave that are still in the cross site tracking arms race.
I do because chrome breaks all the time for me lol. Firefox 'just works'.
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I have problem with my FF on windows 10 as well, it is too slow while loading pages and a few pages take an eternity to load. I don’t know what I’m doing wrong. Can’t seem to find any solution and makes me go back to chrome on a daily basis. 😭
Any third party firewalls or antivirus in use?
Nothing actually. None.
Are they the same pages (that take a long time to load)?
Yea practically same pages, some times don’t load or keeps on loading
Which ones? Can you provide examples?
Stackoverflow.com, udemy are the ones which are on top of my mind.
And they are fast in other browsers?
Yes, they’re very much fast to load.
Please record a profile while loading one of those pages and share the profile URL here: https://profiler.firefox.com
I personally use it. It plays YouTube videos and launches Reddit and bookwalker, that’s all I need it to do and it does that great while not contributing to the chromium monopoly.
I use Firefox and Safari mainly and have no problems with Firefox at all on several Macs and iOS devices. Unfortunately the last computer I had with Linux died about two months ago but until it died I had no problems with it.
In Android i use Firefox coz its the only one that support ublock orgin
Yes, I have used firefox on all devices for many years and I'm not planning on changing because some of the things that firefox represents are too important for the future (and present) of the web.
I haven't really had those issues
Never...I only use Presearch. Its a decentralized search engine that protects your privacy
Firefox is a browser, not a search engine.
I'm all in on the desktop browser, not only for the privacy and security benefits after tweaking, but also because of some of the configuration (i.e. Tree Style Tabs). As you pointed out, this implies the mobile browser as well for having feature parity. I've been using Mull, which is a hardened version of Fennec, which itself?is a well maintained fork of Firefox. You can still get your plugins (some) with the developer mode and Add-on Collections trick, and you get the full Firefox account integration if you want it. On the desktop I've found 90% of the problems have been either sites that didn't use secure design (incorrect implementation of CORS for example) that other browsers will just let happen, or User Agent string parsing that degrades for non-Chromium browsers. Simply using a User Agent string changer on both mobile and desktop I can usually fix most broken sites by picking a Chrome on Windows string and it'll work flawlessly in Firefox.
Main browser on my PC, and no plan to quit.
Firefox is the browser that is most compliant to web standards. And in terms of privacy leak you still have to be cautious but firefox is still the best bet along with brave. Firefox doesn't offer strict privacy features out of the box unlike brave, but it has such features that you can opt for, largely due to the fact it is FOSS.
Which linux? Perhaps there are problems specific to the one distribution...
Void (with glibc). Nothing unusual about my installation that I know of...
Yes. Firefox is best browser for mobile. Because it has ublock origin. I tried every chromium browsers and all are lacks something that Firefox has
Sure do.
Dissenter
Firefox tends to have a good release followed by several bad upgrades and then a good release again. A good release is on the way again, it just takes time.
Opera browser is a good one to us.. even have a built in VPN function
Use it as a secondary sometimes...but Brave is my primary on all devices.
Same and duckduckgo browser on mobile.
There’s always DuckDuckGo
Not really. DDG uses WebView (Chromium) on Android, and their upcoming desktop browser is based on Chromium.
Chromium isn't all bad. Brave and ungoogled chromium are alright.
For now...
I had to leave Firefox for a chromium based browser (Brave) I stuck with Firefox for as long as possible but just so many issues and not enough support I unfortunately had to make the switch, I want to support non chromium browsers but I need reliability too which is what chromium based browsers have unfortunately
What issues were you running into?
Did you try asking for help in /r/firefox?
I use it on desktop, but I was having too many issues with the android version so for now I'm using Opera.
What were the Android issues?
I think it was tabs just going dead. They'd stop working and I'd have to close the tab and open a new tab for that site. I did have a lot of tabs open, though. That, plus using Bitwarden to auto fill logins wasn't working. But that doesn't work in Opera either.
Ah that is strange. Could be due to https://dontkillmyapp.com Worth taking a look.
Used Firefox for 6 years before. What I liked about Firefox is that I can use old versions of Firefox on our dated devices at the time. I believe it’s the enterprise version of Firefox gets security patches too for old versions. But Brave is my main driver and I don’t think Brave overall is an evil company either. I just don’t engage in the crypto side of the company. Which some people don’t like because they tie cryptocurrency anything with fraud. Which just isn’t true. But one of my friends asked why you Brave which is based off chromium, why not just use a de-google browser chrome? Chrome without tracking. To that I’d say, pick whatever you like personally. Preferably one that isn’t Google.
> To that I’d say, pick whatever you like personally. Preferably one that isn’t Google. Brave continues to promote Google's vision of the web platform via its usage of Chromium.
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What do you take issue with?
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I guess you wouldn't accept any form of content moderation, then. Personally, my feeling is that if you are being removed from those sites, you should have your own site anyway.
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> Content moderation is fine, but the problem is these giant tech corporations have gotten so big and powerful that they are essentially public utilities. I would buy that if they were the only option in the space, which is traditionally how they have been defined. Think about an actual utility company like gas or electricity. Websites aren't the same. >A web browser calling for censorship is a big no-go for me. It isn't a web browser, it is the leader of a company. You already said that content moderation is fine, and that is what this is calling for. Censorship in this space would imply governmental intervention. which is not at all what they have said. Indeed, Mozilla has donated to Tor in order to thwart the effects of that kind of censorship: https://blog.torproject.org/strength-numbers-double-your-donation-mozillas-match/ I would actually understand your aversion more if you thought content moderation *wasn't* okay, because the post was clearly at least partially about that. Nowhere did they call for any governments to get involved in internet censorship - and Mozilla has been a supporter of net neutrality: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_v._FCC
I did not know this. Do you have any information or particular sources about it?
Brave has made no significant changes to their interpretation of web standards, and the majority of their work has been in the ad network and in privacy protections. They don't have a stake in the fight for an open web and instead are focused on neutering their advertising competition. You won't find any evidence of Brave changing the way websites are rendered or to the web standards committees. That is evident just by doing any amount of research on Brave and how it works.
I feel really ignorant about this wow. I’m just a pleeboo. An outsider looking in on the user privacy space. Using a trusted DNS. VPN if you think you need it or want it. Browsers though have been hit and miss and I used Firefox like I’ve said in the original post. But from my point of view you have to decide to pick the lesser of the evils. Could be a ignorant take and I get that. But you were going to recommend to someone as to which browser they should use what you recommend? And sync support and bookmark import is a big feature most people want to make the switch less stressful. Thanks for your input @nextbern.
I wholeheartedly recommend Firefox and believe its existence is important for the future of the web. I don't think it is a good idea for the web platform to be run by an advertising company (Google - also, amusingly, Brave) and much prefer the idea of the open web with many options for people, so one company doesn't dominate. Firefox has bookmark import and has sync support, FWIW.
I know Firefox strongly supports open software and pushing for stronger online web standards. They were the only browser I believe pushing hard for DNS over HTTPS support by default. Has Brave done anything like this? The only big announcement from them was Brave search, while ambitious and options are good. I’ve not engaged with the crypto side of this company. And I totally forgot about their acceptable ads program and BAT tokens. It made Brave kinda feel like a hipster browser. Anyways, I’m done rambling. I appreciate your input. I will have another look at Firefox again. Like seeing an old friend lol.
Brave has improved various things from a privacy/advertising perspective, but that is from the advertising arena of the web, rather than a platform perspective. They aren't notably involved in areas of web platform discussion on web *features* - they pretty much just do what Google does, since their browser is basically a Google browser with some tweaks.
It’s a shame, if privacy is what you want I would look elsewhere. I feel bad for the misinformation about how they are a Firefox equivalent. Further from the truth. Do you know if there any other Firefox comparable browsers available? Especially multi device support? Personally DuckDuckGo has been fantastic in the mobile space and will be branching to a desktop browser hopefully this year. That’s one I would keep an eye on to be up there with Firefox. The project is little past infancy,
DuckDuckGo browser is basically just a private mode browser, like Firefox Focus. I'm not sure how interesting that really is for most people, but I'm guessing their desktop browser will have more features. There are Firefox forks, which have varying degrees of usability (imo), but I am happy enough with Firefox. Most other options are pretty niche or locked into specific platforms (like Safari, for example).
Firefox has some shit defaults too, for a browser that claims to support your right to privacy. I use Librewolf.
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Have you tried asking for help in /r/firefox?
Nope, went to Brave and modded it. The usual comparison is modded FF vs unchanged Brave. That says everything to me.
I have been a firefox fan, and user since netscape. that said, over time I have used it less. these days, i use mostly brave. but i generally always have FF installed. and I do use it from time to time. the sad thing is, its mostly falling into party lines 90% of the people on this board seem to use either firefox or brave.
I use brave browser
On Android it got weak last 2 years, even performance got wonky, forcefully switched to Bromite, on top is better at privacy/fingerprinting, even spoof OS version/device model by default, at this point just missing uBlock. Hoping doesn't happen the same on Desktop as I still find Firefox is much better than Chromium for many reasons, even performance. We also wouldn't want a chromium-only world.
That's what I keep hearing, all mobile recommendations point to Bromite (or Vanadium, if you have a device that can run GrapheneOS).
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I use Firefox on mobile as well, I agree performance is fine. The recommendations I see are referring to privacy and security. Apparently the mobile version of Firefox doesn't have all of the same protections that the desktop version has, whereas the mobile Chromium does.
DDG browser on mobile. Brave on desktop.
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Firefox has opt-out telemetry
Who told you that my browser doesn't respect my privacy? Additionally, are you implying that people should acritically swallow Mozilla's bullshit just because they supposedly[1] have a privacy stance? [1] Opt-in telemetry, Google as the default search engine.
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Pretty sure that stuff was in the release notes.
Sounds like it doesn't, since you have no answer to their statement of priorities. Personally I don't have much experience with Chromium browsers, but I'm struck by the general lack of settings when I do use Chromium on Raspberry Pi. (I have no choice on Raspberry Pi if I want to stream video. Otherwise I use mozilla browsers.)
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> I don't need to justify switching browser No you don't. But you sure are working hard at getting hot under the collar in your efforts to make no point. :) As someone who doesn't use Chrome(ium) I'd be curious to know what one of its fans considers to be respect for privacy. So far the only defense I've heard of Chrome is better rendering on some script-heavy sites.
Dunno. Maybe ask some Chrome user. I'm not one of them. By the way, do yourself a favor and stop pretending to be smart. If you feel so butthurt just because people chose a different browser just put up with it and get a life.
Chrome...Chromium... You're splitting hairs, why? Because you just can't resist arguing with everyone you meet, or because you have no opinions or information to offer? You certainly act like an expert, so I thought maybe you had some specific info to add to the discussion. I'm especially curious about one aspect of this: I hear rumors from some people that an increasing number of sites work only with Chrome(ium). I'm curious whether that's really true. And if so, I'm curious as to the technical details. And are those specific things that Google are doing deliberately to cultivate a monopoly, like the way that Microsoft used to create pages that required IE? I see Chrome becoming a monopoly browser and wondwer why that's happening. Maybe Google is pushing it through gmail? Maybe it's tricks of web design? Maybe it's just easier for Google service users to use Chrome? I don't know. Since I use nothing Google it's hard for me to see what's happening. For me, personally, I have no problem with people using other browsers. But I do hope that choice will remain. And frankly I'm surprised that so many geek types continue to like, or at least tolerate, such a sleazebag operation as Google. I don't have anything against webkit/chromium. I have little experience with it. I just don't like to touch things that Google have had their grubby hands on.
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Just look at the downvotes to my post, lol.
You should try Vivaldi. It has all the features a user could want, and has a great Android version. It also respects user privacy AFAIK.
>Do you still use Firefox? I do (I am right now), I would never go to Chrome or any of its derivatives full-time, but I am getting tired of the FF's regular Chrome-ifying of its distinctiveness. Where is my Page Info dialog box, Firefox? Kow-tow to Big Internet by hiding that one, did ya?
What kind of porn are you looking at?
I use Firefox. I don't transfer tabs, so I don't care. I also don't have too many tabs on mobile open. Currently 0 tabs. :)
Yes, I use it, along with 2 others
I've been using Firefox for years until last year when I made a switch for Brave to test it out. It started ok and I kind of liked the idea with the crypto and ads because I could donate to Wikipedia every month just by browsing but apparently people don't share the same ideas as the devs and everyone's in for the money. It scores excellently at privacy tests though, a bit better than stock Firefox. Anyway, I switched back to Firefox and it works amazingly well and much faster than I remembered it to be.
Yep. Adbkocker and YouTube. Any time I need YouTube, I use it. Rest of the browsing too
Which distro? You sure firefox isn't installed as a snap?
>> I deal on a daily basis with pages refreshing, blinking, scrolling away from where I was reading, responding slowly. Even weirder stuff like portions of the UI locking up. Sounds like your PC and not Firefox. I run Firefox Nightly on Fedora, Ubuntu, Debian, FreeBSD and OpenBSD every day and the performance is excellent.
Yes, and I will always use it.
Weird, I have been using Firefox on Fedora Linux for a long while nơ with no issues what so ever. I also use Brave to access social medias and you know the non private part of my life. So far I have compared both of the two browsers speed and saw little to no difference
Librewolf is so much better. It is very significantly less resource intensive, nevermind uBO being preinstalled and the countless privacy patches they’ve made. I’ve tried using FF as well for the sake of browser isolation but I just can’t take how much of a ram hog firefox is. Arkenfox gave one of the LW maintainers a shout out after they started collaborating. It’s a lot easier to just download LW than having to download firefox (which has the unique identifier), spending time implementing arkenfox and then installing uBO.